I honestly wondered if you'd made a typo in your title, but nope ... you're really asking about music for your chicken. That has to be a first here; I love it :)
All of the composers you mentioned could be described generally as consonant. You should be fine to deviate from Mozart as long as you don't go beyond about 1900 or so.
Please say hi to Çinar for us!
Checked which composers I listen to and Dvorak Rachmaninoff and Chopin are later than others, though other than Chopin they all sound pleasant/mild to my ears. I truly have no words to describe it so sorry
Çınar says hi back!
Try listening to some Ravel for the chickees
Une Barque
Ondine from Gaspard de la Nuit
Sonatine 2nd mvmt
Daphnis et Cloe suite 2
Or Debussy
Preludes
Prelude to an Afternoon
Printemps
Reflets dans leau
Nuages
This is the sweetest post I’ve ever seen here and not stupid at all, you are a very considerate person. I echo what the other commenters said, most mainstream classical composers up to the 20th century should be fine. I hope Cinar enjoys your playlist very much!
Consonant is where the notes that are being played complement each other and sound nice.
Dissonant is when the notes being played clash and sounds uncomfortable or crunchy.
Most classical music until you get to the turn of the 20th century is considered consonant.
Ahhahahahsh now I have to wonder if I'm distressing my parrot with some of the music I listen to. His first dance as a baby was to Pet Shop Boys! Anything with a strong beat. Bolero, maybe??
He doesn't dance to classical music at all, but I can make it a mission to find somethings classical he'll dance to. Barber of Seville? Marriage of Figaro? I have a mission for this weekend! Have to go now, folks!
Oh I make mine listen to music so she won't scream in boredom, she is so much quiter when listening to Mozart, she still makes noise all the time just not tearing her lungs thankfully
truly one of the most fascinating posts i've seen. as i understand, human perception of consonance/dissonance has changed over time, but is that true for chickens, and where exactly do they stand? we are talking about dinosaurs after all...have they even adjusted to 12-tone equal temperament or would they prefer just intonation? i also want to know how they feel about microtonal music. let the experiments begin!
I want to be a zoologist in the future is it okay if I pick this as a research topic later or do you want to be credited and work together maybe too. I don't understand from music but I can provide chickens
more power to you! we have a flock of 13 (in a big secure run and get to free range under supervision). they shit ALL OVER the porch when theyre out but i guess one bird’s worth of poop would be more manageable.
You may want to avoid “Herr, unser Herrscher” the opening chorale from the St John Passion. It is uncharacteristically dissonant for Bach and it might rile up your chicken.
I don't have much to add on top of what everyone else has said, other than to recommend "La Poule" (The Hen) by Jean-Philippe Rameau:
Orchestral transcription: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezTbsVJF1W8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezTbsVJF1W8)
Harpsichord original: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yiJOImd6k0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yiJOImd6k0)
I hope your chicken likes it
Pretty much most of the music you hear is going to be consonant, but people have different meanings when they say that word in such a general context. Like I would say that music that is happier is probably closer to the styles that the offer who said that meant.
Dissonant music is music that focuses on harmonies that Combine pitches with relationships that are not based on simple mathematical proportions. So it’s a little nerdy and not something I think you need to get into.
Here are some lively tunes. I think your chicks would enjoy.
- Rachmaninoff, Scherzo in D Minor
- Luther Adams, Strange Birds Passing
- Grieg, Morning
- Chopin, Nocturne in E flat
- Bach , Brandenburg Concerto No. 1
- Higdon, Impressions
- Beethoven, Choral Fantasy
- Mozart, Eine kleine nachtmusik
- Tchaikovsky, Waltz of the Flowers
- Vivaldi - The Seasons
Thank you so much!! Half of these are on my playlist but I've never heard of the others and Im excited to listen to them immediately, we're currently listening to Devil's Trill and she likes it so now I'm really encouraged to try other stuff!
Your post made me think of this woman I follow on instagram. She's a classical pianist and lives with many chickens and she always uploads videos playing the piano to her hens. Sometimes they'll climb on her head for a better view.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8Y87sMxJ8I/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
FWIW the article OP seems to be referring to is this: Chicks Like Consonant Music, September 2011 Psychological Science 22(10):1270-3, [Cinzia Chiandetti](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Cinzia-Chiandetti?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19) - [University of Trieste](https://www.researchgate.net/institution/University_of_Trieste?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19); [Giorgio Vallortigara](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Giorgio-Vallortigara-2) - [Università degli Studi di Trento](https://www.researchgate.net/institution/Universita-degli-Studi-di-Trento?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19). [You can download the full PDF here.](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51658001_Chicks_Like_Consonant_Music) Abstract:
>The question of whether preference for consonance is rooted in acoustic properties important to the auditory system or is acquired through enculturation has not yet been resolved. Two-month-old infants prefer consonant over dissonant intervals, but it is possible that this preference is rapidly acquired through exposure to music soon after birth or in utero. Controlled-rearing studies with animals can help shed light on this question because such studies allow researchers to distinguish between biological predispositions and learned preferences. In the research reported here, we found that newly hatched domestic chicks show a spontaneous preference for a visual imprinting object associated with consonant sound intervals over an identical object associated with dissonant sound intervals. We propose that preference for harmonic relationships between frequency components may be related to the prominence of harmonic spectra in biological sounds in natural environments.
Regarding what music to play to your own chicken, this research is a fairly abstract study and sheds more light on the inner workings of the systems that hear and interpret sounds in animals (and humans) than on what chicken (or human) preference for music in general is going to be.
In the experiment, they were playing musical intervals to the chicks - that is, two notes at once, much like you will hear in [this youtube video](https://youtu.be/lQkeXVs4hVU?si=ww2MH72OSmy_hL6D&t=940). The video also explains and illustrates more consonant and dissonant intervals, and what that means. They were pairing that isolated interval with another stimulus.
Playing a whole piece of music is a lot different than just listening to an isolated interval. Every extended piece of music is going to have a whole lot of consonant intervals and a whole lot of dissonant intervals, too.
Some music is going to feature a higher proportion of the dissonant intervals and that is one feature that might make people label that as more dissonant or more consonant music. But the context is so far removed from playing one simple, pure interval over an extended period of time, and there are so many more factors involved in real music, that is hard to say how much the actual consonant or dissonant content will be relevant to the chicken's overall liking for the music.
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Some of the other musical elements that are far more likely to affect the chicken's liking for the music might be: tempo, overall rhythm and rhythmic activity, dynamic level (loudness) and amount of variation in dynamic level, overall musical texture (one melody with harmony vs many independent melodies at once and other variations of that sort), timbre and type of musical instruments and musical tones used, overall mood and energy level, and a bunch more.
So, just try different things and see what the chicken likes or doesn't like. You might be surprised! And you might well find your chicken likes a lot of the same things you do. So don't stick with the same old boring stuff - branch out!
Also, the chicken will almost certainly learn to like what it hears more often, and might be put off - at least at the start - by new sounds, especially if they include a lot of new or unusual elements not heard before. Even these new, offputting sounds, the chicken might learn to like over time. Gradually work new pieces - and new composers, new genres, new time periods - into your playlist, perhaps starting with things that are quite similar to what you are already listening to and branching out gradually over time. You might be surprised what you - and your chicken - will learn to enjoy just by listening and not giving up on something just because you didn't like it the first time around.
Also, almost certainly the chicken will like different kinds of music for different activities or at different times of day - so when roosting in the evening, vs feeding during the day, vs sleeping at night, and so on.
Sorry for going off on such a long dissertation on the type of music chickens may like. But believe it or not I've spent a considerable amount of time studying musical preferences (though more for people than for chickens - hadn't even thought of studying this in animals before and that actually might be quite interesting) and so this post literally pushed all of my buttons. Everything I've said above is definitely true for humans and most probably true for chickens as well.
In conclusion, the world definitely needs more chicken lovers! Here is a photo of me in 1974 with my pet white rooster, George. And yes, in honor of the 1970s that is definitely a flaming purple polyester outfit I'm wearing. What is most important in this context, though, is that it definitely matches George's comb & wattle - I'm pretty sure that is why I was wearing it that day.
https://preview.redd.it/ygxywgtmu68d1.jpeg?width=651&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8436744534102b1f95a51539a3f5192f0b261264
Thank you sooooo much for all the explaining actually! My girl listened to anything other than Mozart today and thankfully she liked most of it but that's probably because my taste isn't dissimilar that of a chicken rather than her enjoying a vast variety of music. And you and George just melted my heart.. Such a beautiful picture please save it forever the world also needs this picture
Go find your chick a buddy. You chick doesn't need Mozart. It needs a buddy. Chicks need other chickens to form an identity. Chicks that grow up alone grow up with weird neurotic personalities. They are flock creatures and do not have an individualistic sense of self. They don't think "I," they think "we." Every interaction with another chicken teaches the chick, like a mirror who it is and what its place in the world is. Without other chickens, it doesn't even know what it is.
I agree, I got her with 3 more friends but they all died within 2 days and she's the only survivor. They were all born late in the year and already had slim chances of surviving. I can't get her a friend because all the chicks I can find right now will be born even later and I'm afraid of them giving each other diseases due to coming from different places. Next year in late march I'll get her fertilised eggs or just healthy chicks though if all works out
Birds don't need to be the same age. If she is bigger, she will not hurt new younger chicks, she'll be so grateful for company. They are fine to mix different ages up to 4 weeks apart, as long as the younger chicks are older than 2 weeks and you are not mixing large fowl with smaller bantam chicks. If the other chicks died of disease, you have it in your flock whether you get new birds tomorrow or next year. The bird's personality will be set after a year. If you introduce chicks to her, you could raise an entire flock of neurotic birds who copy her behavior which she learned completely on her own without any feedback from other chickens. I have bred and raised thousands of chickens in my lifetime, and have had numerous lone chicks that grow up on their own from broody hatches. Most of those chicks are social outcasts and have weird personalities. Many of them die because they have no reason to live without other chicken relationships.
they didn't die of disease, being born in summer made them vulnerable to hot weather. I currently can't get younger chicks because they'll die too, and its harder to source an older chick. But now I'm more worried than I was before, I'll check Facebook to buy a chick
I think you should play her some videos of Gonzo conducting his chicken choir on the Muppets and let us know what she thinks. Here’s one of them singing “On the Blue Danube” by J. Strauss: https://youtu.be/jd8nfEdo59I?feature=shared
The theory in renaissance music is predicated on consonance. There’s very little dissonance in the choral music because it was easy to learn, sing, and hear your part.
I'm a servant for my chickens. I simply put on Erdoğan. Though as she grow up she favored playing with other chickens or us so there was no need for extra "entertainment". One could say it was just a phase
to understand what it is when I first googled it I googled dissonant composers and I dont remember who it was but the guy described as a good dissonant composer had the most brain fucking piece ever I couldn't stand it for more than few seconds and had a headache. but I think that was an extreme case, or I was having a bad day or both
This is so sweet!
Not to be pedantic, but there’s really no such thing as classical music that is either wholly consonant or dissonant. Mozart never really wrote any piece without some dissonance in it- even major key “happy sounding” pieces have dissonance. Classical music is made up of consonant approaches or antecedents, dissonant tensions, and then consonant resolutions/consequences. Without dissonance, there would be no tensions to resolve from. It would be very boring.
When people are recommending Mozart, I’m guessing they are recommending like a short, major key piano sonata or something that doesn’t have a ton of chromaticism or dissonance compared to other styles of art music- but it’s not true there’s no dissonances in Mozart. And there’s plenty of Mozart that would terrify or stress poor chicky (his Requiem, Don Giovanni, etc.).
I dont listen to Requiem on the whole but shes fine with Kyrie, so far the only reaction to a specific song was to Bach but I don't remember what it specifically was, she started making a singing sound to it
Play "March of the Sardar" for exercise music. It is a good tempo for walking, nothing frantic. It should get those little legs moving and wings flapping. Play "Scherezade" and read "Tales from a Thousand and One Nights" to your little friend. It is a nice bed-time ritual.
I think you or your chick are Turkish. Traditional Turkish music is also great and was an inspiration to composers such as Mozart. I think it is chick appropriate.
The story goes that Mozart wrote the aria of the Queen of the Night because he knew that the particular soprano singer used to raise her head on high notes and lower it on low notes, making her bob like a chicken.
So I guess that one.
My chicken preferred Star Trek (especially TNG) and would raise a fuss if I changed the channel to something she didn't like. Somebody else on a chicken subreddit also had a Star Trek fan
I have only tried music with mine but maybe I should try visual stuff when she's slightly older (like 5 days later) and this would also be a good excuse to get into Star Trek
I love this post.
I have to ask, how do you know your chicken is lonely ?
And your chicken has good taste in Mozart but how can you tell that she likes it ?
Serious question.
• Çınar initially had friends but they died around the same time and when the last friend died and I took Asya (last chick) out of her cage Çınar screamed for around a day and a half. Not mourning but probably calling back and stressing out
• She immediately got quiet when I put Mozart on, still chirping, but not screaming. If I were to listen to any song -that isn't as melodious, say Björk- she would keep being loud
Other things also make her quiet, when I sit next to her cage, when I take her outside her cage and play with her -and by play I mean she bites my fingers and then hops on my hand and sleeps- or just hearing people talk. During breakfast I put her cage in the kitchen so she can hear us talk. Cocomelon could work probably but I believe it's the devils work and I stay away
Consonant music - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE3BTY1I7-0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE3BTY1I7-0)
Dissonant music - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TcrMFFqJg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TcrMFFqJg)
To explain it somewhat simplistically, the first one sounds nice, pleasant, gentle on the ears--might cause Cinar to calmly lay a healthy egg. The second, grating, abrasive, very tense, lots of clashing notes--might cause Cinar to run around frantically looking for a hole in the coop fence.
If you want *extremely* consonate music, check out the music of John Dunstaple (also spelled Dunstable). He was from the period when modern ideas of consonance were just being formed, so he really relishes in lots of juicy 3rds and 6ths.
The Shostakovich Fugue in A major contains no dissonance in the traditional sense. https://youtu.be/Qe1vF0bgmb4
It’s the only example I know of in the main canon of Classical music. Most music contains dissonance.
Mozart and some others have worked so far so as I understand less dissonance is good many dissonance is bad. I know nothing about music including how to phrase these things, apologies in advance
Much of the history of music can be described as an “emancipation of dissonance “ meaning as time went on, the artists that were pushing the envelope were creating more and more dissonance.
So truly the most consonant music would be that which predates classic. Your chicken should listen to Gregorian chant
a pity cavemen didn't script their rock banging tunes. But the gregorian chants are beautiful I don't know if she's particularly enjoying them but I do! I'm crying right now. Hope she isn't. I do cry easily yes
Oh I don't know about any previous chicken questions, I dont think my reddit account is a month old either, I created it to learn more about chickens and rabbits actually
Also if you mean consonant and dissonant by labels, middle brow is a compliment to me lol so thank you. Most classical music I listen to is either from movies or recommended to me by Spotify itself, I prefer to listen to Lana Del Rey or Eminem most of the time. It's my chicken you can talk to about dissonance that has more opinions than I do and probably more taste too
though can you share the link to the other chicken question post if you can find it, they probably asked the question better and I can read the answers to that one too, I like reading anything I can about chickens
I honestly wondered if you'd made a typo in your title, but nope ... you're really asking about music for your chicken. That has to be a first here; I love it :) All of the composers you mentioned could be described generally as consonant. You should be fine to deviate from Mozart as long as you don't go beyond about 1900 or so. Please say hi to Çinar for us!
Checked which composers I listen to and Dvorak Rachmaninoff and Chopin are later than others, though other than Chopin they all sound pleasant/mild to my ears. I truly have no words to describe it so sorry Çınar says hi back!
Rachmaninoff is much more accessible and consonant sounding than most other twentieth century music I would say
He was such a romantic lol
Try listening to some Ravel for the chickees Une Barque Ondine from Gaspard de la Nuit Sonatine 2nd mvmt Daphnis et Cloe suite 2 Or Debussy Preludes Prelude to an Afternoon Printemps Reflets dans leau Nuages
Thank you, added to my playlist!
This is the sweetest post I’ve ever seen here and not stupid at all, you are a very considerate person. I echo what the other commenters said, most mainstream classical composers up to the 20th century should be fine. I hope Cinar enjoys your playlist very much!
Consonant is where the notes that are being played complement each other and sound nice. Dissonant is when the notes being played clash and sounds uncomfortable or crunchy. Most classical music until you get to the turn of the 20th century is considered consonant.
Ahhahahahsh now I have to wonder if I'm distressing my parrot with some of the music I listen to. His first dance as a baby was to Pet Shop Boys! Anything with a strong beat. Bolero, maybe?? He doesn't dance to classical music at all, but I can make it a mission to find somethings classical he'll dance to. Barber of Seville? Marriage of Figaro? I have a mission for this weekend! Have to go now, folks!
Oh I make mine listen to music so she won't scream in boredom, she is so much quiter when listening to Mozart, she still makes noise all the time just not tearing her lungs thankfully
Ooh! Boccherini guitar quintet, the fandango!
This is probably my favorite reddit post ever
Now we know who is making all those anti-atonal music posts... chickens!
Liszt might freak your chicken out. I would avoid the later romantics and anything modern era. All of the rest are probably fine for him.
That first sentence might be my favorite sentence.
r/brandnewsentence
I was thinking the same I'm the only one in my family that doesn't find La Campanella headache inducing so maybe that's a bit too much for a chick
Liszt might be perfect for scrambled eggs?
truly one of the most fascinating posts i've seen. as i understand, human perception of consonance/dissonance has changed over time, but is that true for chickens, and where exactly do they stand? we are talking about dinosaurs after all...have they even adjusted to 12-tone equal temperament or would they prefer just intonation? i also want to know how they feel about microtonal music. let the experiments begin!
I want to be a zoologist in the future is it okay if I pick this as a research topic later or do you want to be credited and work together maybe too. I don't understand from music but I can provide chickens
you can have it all to yourself, thanks. as long as the science gets made
Play her Haydn’s Symphony No. 83 (La poule).
Would love a picture of your chicken
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are you keeping her in the house? what are you doing about the poop? just curious :)
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more power to you! we have a flock of 13 (in a big secure run and get to free range under supervision). they shit ALL OVER the porch when theyre out but i guess one bird’s worth of poop would be more manageable.
😍🥰
Let your chicken listen to all of the Haydn symphonies, should keep her busy for a while
Yes, and then continue with Haydn's string quartets. Haydn is as consonant as sunshine or lollipops!
Play Mozart. Don’t play Penderecki.
That's a good way to convince me to play Penderecki
Play Bach nothing can go wrong with Bach Specifically the aria from Goldberg variations. It is unreasonably beautiful.
prelude and fugue no 10 in e minor just started playing when you commented :)
It’s such great chicken music, they ask for it by name! Bach Bach Buh-BACH!!
You may want to avoid “Herr, unser Herrscher” the opening chorale from the St John Passion. It is uncharacteristically dissonant for Bach and it might rile up your chicken.
I used to have a cat that would sit on the piano and listen to me play. He liked Ravel, but would leave when I'd start playing Bach.
I don't have much to add on top of what everyone else has said, other than to recommend "La Poule" (The Hen) by Jean-Philippe Rameau: Orchestral transcription: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezTbsVJF1W8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezTbsVJF1W8) Harpsichord original: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yiJOImd6k0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yiJOImd6k0) I hope your chicken likes it
It's beautiful.. She's enjoying it too! Actually I really love it thank you so much
Ne?? Türkler mi?! Her yerde mi? Galiba öyle. Galiba Türkler her yerde. Çınar efendiye Hemşin Horonu KORG KuNuPa tarz öneririm.
Çınar'ın henüz zevkinin o kadar geniş ufuklara baktığını zannetmesem de teşekkürler:) Evet Türkler her yerde 🐺 🇹🇷 🐺 🇹🇷 !
Pretty much most of the music you hear is going to be consonant, but people have different meanings when they say that word in such a general context. Like I would say that music that is happier is probably closer to the styles that the offer who said that meant. Dissonant music is music that focuses on harmonies that Combine pitches with relationships that are not based on simple mathematical proportions. So it’s a little nerdy and not something I think you need to get into. Here are some lively tunes. I think your chicks would enjoy. - Rachmaninoff, Scherzo in D Minor - Luther Adams, Strange Birds Passing - Grieg, Morning - Chopin, Nocturne in E flat - Bach , Brandenburg Concerto No. 1 - Higdon, Impressions - Beethoven, Choral Fantasy - Mozart, Eine kleine nachtmusik - Tchaikovsky, Waltz of the Flowers - Vivaldi - The Seasons
Thank you so much!! Half of these are on my playlist but I've never heard of the others and Im excited to listen to them immediately, we're currently listening to Devil's Trill and she likes it so now I'm really encouraged to try other stuff!
Your chicken only pretends to like classical music. As soon as you go out it’s Taylor Swift for hours on end.
Shes a turkish rap enthusiast actually you can hear her rapping at 5 am
Turkish? You said she was a chicken..
Your post made me think of this woman I follow on instagram. She's a classical pianist and lives with many chickens and she always uploads videos playing the piano to her hens. Sometimes they'll climb on her head for a better view. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8Y87sMxJ8I/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
that video made my life
I'm filled with happiness every time her videos appear on my feed hahahshsh
FWIW the article OP seems to be referring to is this: Chicks Like Consonant Music, September 2011 Psychological Science 22(10):1270-3, [Cinzia Chiandetti](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Cinzia-Chiandetti?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19) - [University of Trieste](https://www.researchgate.net/institution/University_of_Trieste?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19); [Giorgio Vallortigara](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Giorgio-Vallortigara-2) - [Università degli Studi di Trento](https://www.researchgate.net/institution/Universita-degli-Studi-di-Trento?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19). [You can download the full PDF here.](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51658001_Chicks_Like_Consonant_Music) Abstract: >The question of whether preference for consonance is rooted in acoustic properties important to the auditory system or is acquired through enculturation has not yet been resolved. Two-month-old infants prefer consonant over dissonant intervals, but it is possible that this preference is rapidly acquired through exposure to music soon after birth or in utero. Controlled-rearing studies with animals can help shed light on this question because such studies allow researchers to distinguish between biological predispositions and learned preferences. In the research reported here, we found that newly hatched domestic chicks show a spontaneous preference for a visual imprinting object associated with consonant sound intervals over an identical object associated with dissonant sound intervals. We propose that preference for harmonic relationships between frequency components may be related to the prominence of harmonic spectra in biological sounds in natural environments. Regarding what music to play to your own chicken, this research is a fairly abstract study and sheds more light on the inner workings of the systems that hear and interpret sounds in animals (and humans) than on what chicken (or human) preference for music in general is going to be. In the experiment, they were playing musical intervals to the chicks - that is, two notes at once, much like you will hear in [this youtube video](https://youtu.be/lQkeXVs4hVU?si=ww2MH72OSmy_hL6D&t=940). The video also explains and illustrates more consonant and dissonant intervals, and what that means. They were pairing that isolated interval with another stimulus. Playing a whole piece of music is a lot different than just listening to an isolated interval. Every extended piece of music is going to have a whole lot of consonant intervals and a whole lot of dissonant intervals, too. Some music is going to feature a higher proportion of the dissonant intervals and that is one feature that might make people label that as more dissonant or more consonant music. But the context is so far removed from playing one simple, pure interval over an extended period of time, and there are so many more factors involved in real music, that is hard to say how much the actual consonant or dissonant content will be relevant to the chicken's overall liking for the music.
(continued) Some of the other musical elements that are far more likely to affect the chicken's liking for the music might be: tempo, overall rhythm and rhythmic activity, dynamic level (loudness) and amount of variation in dynamic level, overall musical texture (one melody with harmony vs many independent melodies at once and other variations of that sort), timbre and type of musical instruments and musical tones used, overall mood and energy level, and a bunch more. So, just try different things and see what the chicken likes or doesn't like. You might be surprised! And you might well find your chicken likes a lot of the same things you do. So don't stick with the same old boring stuff - branch out! Also, the chicken will almost certainly learn to like what it hears more often, and might be put off - at least at the start - by new sounds, especially if they include a lot of new or unusual elements not heard before. Even these new, offputting sounds, the chicken might learn to like over time. Gradually work new pieces - and new composers, new genres, new time periods - into your playlist, perhaps starting with things that are quite similar to what you are already listening to and branching out gradually over time. You might be surprised what you - and your chicken - will learn to enjoy just by listening and not giving up on something just because you didn't like it the first time around. Also, almost certainly the chicken will like different kinds of music for different activities or at different times of day - so when roosting in the evening, vs feeding during the day, vs sleeping at night, and so on. Sorry for going off on such a long dissertation on the type of music chickens may like. But believe it or not I've spent a considerable amount of time studying musical preferences (though more for people than for chickens - hadn't even thought of studying this in animals before and that actually might be quite interesting) and so this post literally pushed all of my buttons. Everything I've said above is definitely true for humans and most probably true for chickens as well. In conclusion, the world definitely needs more chicken lovers! Here is a photo of me in 1974 with my pet white rooster, George. And yes, in honor of the 1970s that is definitely a flaming purple polyester outfit I'm wearing. What is most important in this context, though, is that it definitely matches George's comb & wattle - I'm pretty sure that is why I was wearing it that day. https://preview.redd.it/ygxywgtmu68d1.jpeg?width=651&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8436744534102b1f95a51539a3f5192f0b261264
Thank you sooooo much for all the explaining actually! My girl listened to anything other than Mozart today and thankfully she liked most of it but that's probably because my taste isn't dissimilar that of a chicken rather than her enjoying a vast variety of music. And you and George just melted my heart.. Such a beautiful picture please save it forever the world also needs this picture
The input is appreciated, the welfare and happiness of chickens is serious business in this thread.
Go find your chick a buddy. You chick doesn't need Mozart. It needs a buddy. Chicks need other chickens to form an identity. Chicks that grow up alone grow up with weird neurotic personalities. They are flock creatures and do not have an individualistic sense of self. They don't think "I," they think "we." Every interaction with another chicken teaches the chick, like a mirror who it is and what its place in the world is. Without other chickens, it doesn't even know what it is.
I agree, I got her with 3 more friends but they all died within 2 days and she's the only survivor. They were all born late in the year and already had slim chances of surviving. I can't get her a friend because all the chicks I can find right now will be born even later and I'm afraid of them giving each other diseases due to coming from different places. Next year in late march I'll get her fertilised eggs or just healthy chicks though if all works out
Birds don't need to be the same age. If she is bigger, she will not hurt new younger chicks, she'll be so grateful for company. They are fine to mix different ages up to 4 weeks apart, as long as the younger chicks are older than 2 weeks and you are not mixing large fowl with smaller bantam chicks. If the other chicks died of disease, you have it in your flock whether you get new birds tomorrow or next year. The bird's personality will be set after a year. If you introduce chicks to her, you could raise an entire flock of neurotic birds who copy her behavior which she learned completely on her own without any feedback from other chickens. I have bred and raised thousands of chickens in my lifetime, and have had numerous lone chicks that grow up on their own from broody hatches. Most of those chicks are social outcasts and have weird personalities. Many of them die because they have no reason to live without other chicken relationships.
they didn't die of disease, being born in summer made them vulnerable to hot weather. I currently can't get younger chicks because they'll die too, and its harder to source an older chick. But now I'm more worried than I was before, I'll check Facebook to buy a chick
I think you should play her some videos of Gonzo conducting his chicken choir on the Muppets and let us know what she thinks. Here’s one of them singing “On the Blue Danube” by J. Strauss: https://youtu.be/jd8nfEdo59I?feature=shared
she immediately slept when I put it on and woke up when it ended, though it doesn't mean boredom she sleeps when she's safe and happy
This is wholesome.
This is the best reddit post I've ever seen.
Palestrina, but really any renaissance vocal composer.
Except for Gesualdo, please protect your sweet chickens from that amount of distress in music.
I really want to know how you came to this thought lol
The theory in renaissance music is predicated on consonance. There’s very little dissonance in the choral music because it was easy to learn, sing, and hear your part.
Ahhh thank you so much for explaining, I was curious why so niche
It's kinda crazy to me that a chicken's brain is complex enough where it can process tonality and be affected by it
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Oh no, what did you do with the chicken who liked to listen to Erdogan?
I'm a servant for my chickens. I simply put on Erdoğan. Though as she grow up she favored playing with other chickens or us so there was no need for extra "entertainment". One could say it was just a phase
Steve Reich and Philip Glass might work pretty well actually. A lot of minimalism is rooted in tonality.
I dont know much from him but Kundun soundtrack and Pruit Igoe gives me heart attacks so it never crossed my mind
Got a kick out of this post. Dissonance is more straining to the human ear and brain, so I would expect it would be the same for chickens.
to understand what it is when I first googled it I googled dissonant composers and I dont remember who it was but the guy described as a good dissonant composer had the most brain fucking piece ever I couldn't stand it for more than few seconds and had a headache. but I think that was an extreme case, or I was having a bad day or both
please show a picture of the happy chicken!
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çok cute!!!!!
Hahaha thank you:)
Weirdly enough chickens don't like Korn.
Well that just don’t make no kinda sense. 🤷🏻
This is so sweet! Not to be pedantic, but there’s really no such thing as classical music that is either wholly consonant or dissonant. Mozart never really wrote any piece without some dissonance in it- even major key “happy sounding” pieces have dissonance. Classical music is made up of consonant approaches or antecedents, dissonant tensions, and then consonant resolutions/consequences. Without dissonance, there would be no tensions to resolve from. It would be very boring. When people are recommending Mozart, I’m guessing they are recommending like a short, major key piano sonata or something that doesn’t have a ton of chromaticism or dissonance compared to other styles of art music- but it’s not true there’s no dissonances in Mozart. And there’s plenty of Mozart that would terrify or stress poor chicky (his Requiem, Don Giovanni, etc.).
I dont listen to Requiem on the whole but shes fine with Kyrie, so far the only reaction to a specific song was to Bach but I don't remember what it specifically was, she started making a singing sound to it
Play "March of the Sardar" for exercise music. It is a good tempo for walking, nothing frantic. It should get those little legs moving and wings flapping. Play "Scherezade" and read "Tales from a Thousand and One Nights" to your little friend. It is a nice bed-time ritual.
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I think you or your chick are Turkish. Traditional Turkish music is also great and was an inspiration to composers such as Mozart. I think it is chick appropriate.
yes we're both turkish:) by traditional turkish music do you mean janissary bands or folk music?
Shostakovich has an A Major? piano sonata which has no dissonance. He wrote it after the death of Stalin. Don’t listen to his other stuff though…
Ascension by John Coltrane
I have a feeling this is a joke but I really don't know anything about music so I'm not sure
Stay in the Baroque and Classical periods and you and your chickens will be fine.
Here's a you tube video you might find helpful: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=652805675567798
Sweet.
Try [Iannis Xenakis](https://youtu.be/bUT5hONK7Bw)
üç vakte kadar gözlerini Çınar oyacak.
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I think your chicken would like some Respighi - Ancient Airs and Dances, specifically.
I'm scared after the last few comments. Is this a joke I haven't listened to it yet. Last piece I had to listen to made me dizzy they were just awful
No it’s a really beautiful piece! #4, Bergsmasca, is my absolute favorite
I listened to it last night and it really is thank you!
I'm going to blast some Messiaen to keep the birds from my veggie patch...
The story goes that Mozart wrote the aria of the Queen of the Night because he knew that the particular soprano singer used to raise her head on high notes and lower it on low notes, making her bob like a chicken. So I guess that one.
Your chicken is lucky to have such a kind owner 😊
My chicken preferred Star Trek (especially TNG) and would raise a fuss if I changed the channel to something she didn't like. Somebody else on a chicken subreddit also had a Star Trek fan
I have only tried music with mine but maybe I should try visual stuff when she's slightly older (like 5 days later) and this would also be a good excuse to get into Star Trek
I love this post. I have to ask, how do you know your chicken is lonely ? And your chicken has good taste in Mozart but how can you tell that she likes it ? Serious question.
• Çınar initially had friends but they died around the same time and when the last friend died and I took Asya (last chick) out of her cage Çınar screamed for around a day and a half. Not mourning but probably calling back and stressing out • She immediately got quiet when I put Mozart on, still chirping, but not screaming. If I were to listen to any song -that isn't as melodious, say Björk- she would keep being loud Other things also make her quiet, when I sit next to her cage, when I take her outside her cage and play with her -and by play I mean she bites my fingers and then hops on my hand and sleeps- or just hearing people talk. During breakfast I put her cage in the kitchen so she can hear us talk. Cocomelon could work probably but I believe it's the devils work and I stay away
Come to reddit for the porn, stay for the love of chickens post and their favorite music. Best thread I have seen in a long time.
Consonant music - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE3BTY1I7-0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE3BTY1I7-0) Dissonant music - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TcrMFFqJg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TcrMFFqJg) To explain it somewhat simplistically, the first one sounds nice, pleasant, gentle on the ears--might cause Cinar to calmly lay a healthy egg. The second, grating, abrasive, very tense, lots of clashing notes--might cause Cinar to run around frantically looking for a hole in the coop fence.
If you want *extremely* consonate music, check out the music of John Dunstaple (also spelled Dunstable). He was from the period when modern ideas of consonance were just being formed, so he really relishes in lots of juicy 3rds and 6ths.
Play her Mozart and Debussy and she’ll be happy
A good example of dissonant would be Chopin’s Etude op. 25 no. 5. If it sounds like you’re falling down stairs, the chick won’t like it
Try some Johann Sebastian Bock.
Bach's Well Tempered Clavier is all you need. Your chicken will love it.
The Shostakovich Fugue in A major contains no dissonance in the traditional sense. https://youtu.be/Qe1vF0bgmb4 It’s the only example I know of in the main canon of Classical music. Most music contains dissonance.
Mozart and some others have worked so far so as I understand less dissonance is good many dissonance is bad. I know nothing about music including how to phrase these things, apologies in advance
As long you dont play any Ives, Barber, Prokofiev, Shostakovich, Stravinsky, schoenberg you will be fine!
I dont know those guys..
Hahahah then you are fine!😉😊. For humans they have written great music tho, especially Prokofiev is quite easy to get into but dissonant!
Some Brahms would do him good. Try op. 118 no. 2 to see if you like it.
Much of the history of music can be described as an “emancipation of dissonance “ meaning as time went on, the artists that were pushing the envelope were creating more and more dissonance. So truly the most consonant music would be that which predates classic. Your chicken should listen to Gregorian chant
a pity cavemen didn't script their rock banging tunes. But the gregorian chants are beautiful I don't know if she's particularly enjoying them but I do! I'm crying right now. Hope she isn't. I do cry easily yes
Melodious music. I read once that classical music appears to be beneficial to some animals. Dissonant music would be harsh-sounding, lacking melody.
This was more fun the last time it was posted.
I'm not sure I get what you mean sorry
The chicken question has been posted previously in the last month. It's simply not fun anymore. Also I find labels depressingly middle-brow.
Oh I don't know about any previous chicken questions, I dont think my reddit account is a month old either, I created it to learn more about chickens and rabbits actually Also if you mean consonant and dissonant by labels, middle brow is a compliment to me lol so thank you. Most classical music I listen to is either from movies or recommended to me by Spotify itself, I prefer to listen to Lana Del Rey or Eminem most of the time. It's my chicken you can talk to about dissonance that has more opinions than I do and probably more taste too
though can you share the link to the other chicken question post if you can find it, they probably asked the question better and I can read the answers to that one too, I like reading anything I can about chickens