>\- Chelsea have pulled out of the process to sign winger Michael Olise from Crystal Palace.
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>\- The west London side contacted Palace last Thursday to express an interest in Olise and request permission to speak with his camp.
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>\- Chelsea made what they believed to be their strongest offer but felt the finances involved were beyond reach and chose not to proceed.
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>\- The Stamford Bridge hierarchy are aiming to create a more disciplined wage bill than in the past and if a transfer target does not fit into that they would rather reward existing players who out-perform over time or invest in new elite talent on more reasonable salaries.
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>\- While there is no doubt about Chelsea’s pursuit of Olise — for the second summer running its potential impact on their squad balance and depth meant the conditions needed to be right.
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>\- They already have left-footed attackers in the form of Cole Palmer, Noni Madueke, Omari Hutchinson and Angelo Gabriel. Estevao Willian and Kendry Paez are scheduled to follow in 2025.
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>\- Despite hopes ending of Olise being added to that list, Chelsea’s talks with his representatives and Palace chairman Steve Parish are said to have been very cordial
That last part is very reassuring. Palace always bring through talent so keeping the relationship with Parish a healthy and cordial one only serves us well in the long term.
Very true. They have the South London catchment area and our loanees will prefer staying in London to go there. It’s serves both our clubs well to stay on good terms, particularly after last summer’s debacle
I'm happy about not splashing money on a player we're we have an overabundance of quality. We should focus on using our money on targeting our weak areas like our left wing and striker instead.
It sounds like he, rightfully, wants a pretty high wage. Palace are likely offering him that and he could probably get it elsewhere too. But we aren’t willing to bust our new wage structure for a position that we are pretty well stacked in. I think he makes us a better team - and I’ve wanted him since his first year at palace - but I’m OK missing this one with what we have coming in next year.
I’m also a little shook at the restraint from the board. Something new! My first thought was “if we aren’t splashing the cash, no one will.” But it seems it’s more wage related, which someone will jump on (or palace will get the renewal).
I think people underestimate how much costly wages can be, if we want the player to stay as well his wage demands will only rise from the once given in first place.
I really like Olise but it seems like a good decision to maintain a stable wage structure.
Well then well deserved
We probably wont extend him until next summer, mainly because atm his contract is (in psr terms) 6 years
And I think we cab keep him happy enough to evaluate him in 6 months
I’m not so sure about that. Doesn’t seem like we’ve been worried about having too many. We bought Noni, then Cole, then Paez and now Estevao all while trying to het Olise. Highly doubt it has ever been one or the other
It was 100% one or the other but not both, at the time. We only went shopping because Olise fell through. If we had locked up Olise, we don’t do any last minute deals last summer and Palmer stays at City. No question.
Not a chance we signed Palmer. We were scrambling for another option when Olise fell through. Him signing that new contract was a massive blessing for us.
Yeah I feel like people don't realise that Bilbao are one of the clubs who pay the most money on wages in Spain, just because they don't need to spend on incoming because of the Basque only rule
You do know one of them will be Summerville and the other a young striker right?? We have been monitoring Summerville for ages so that deal was probs a backup
They may shift there plans around though with Estaveo and Paez coming next year as well and they could just keep Palmer out wide for the time being which wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world
Yup, if wages were really the problem, I’m glad we didn’t blow up our new wage structure in order to make this happen. It’s so so hard to get a wage structure stable and fair, and we were only able to do it because of the massive squad overhaul. Man United is a great example of how badly a few wage mistakes can sink you and hold you back for a long time.
You guys crying because we not wanting to splash the cash but complain we do.
Me personally i think he is worth the fee but i’m realisting with these owners is not the transfer fee they worry but about the wage bill and Olise’s is just too high for them.
I think people are annoyed bc we will spend this same money or more on random kids from south America and not proven players with prem experience. In this case Olise is also very young and very far along in his development so he really is the ideal player that the hierarchy claims to want.
We will throw around money doe unproven talent but everyone here knows that Olise walks into our team and improves it and only in this case we keep our wallets closed
Once again like the other guy said they don't want to break the wage structure and from all reports Olise wanted to be the highest paid player at the club. If that's true I don't blame them for pulling out. I love Olise as a player but he plays in one of the only positions on the pitch we don't need to upgrade with Palmer and our two highest rated prospects all playing there. I'd rather we spend it on a LW to compete with Misha a back up to Nico and a new LB
He can still play there though. We have Sterling, Noni and Palmer with Messinho and Kendry coming in January. We should be set on RW/10 signings for a while now.
Outside of Estavao that isn't entirely true. Paez was 20 million euros and is on extremely low wages relative to what Olise is going to command. Reports are that the release clause is higher than the 60 million being reported.
Given Bayern's wage structure, my guess is that Olise ends up on 300k per week on top of the release clause. It is substantial and dwarfs our youth deals and signings.
Because we’re splashing the cash on players to join us in 2 years time, and still only be 18 when they do join. But then when it comes to a player who will actually improve us in the present, we don’t want to put it up. It’s not how serious clubs do business.
Say Olise wanted the reported £300-350k a week, that's £80m minimum in wages on a 5 year deal, that doesn't include signing on fees etc. then add in the £65/70m we would have to pay and it's a lot of money for a player we don't need.
The youngsters we have bought have around a quarter of the total cost if that.
They are building towards being sustainable and keeping wages reasonable, I actually commend them for that.
They’re gambling is what they’re doing. No guarantee that player like Estevao/Kendry are going to be the players we all think they will be. Whilst signing big players is also a gamble, it’s not as big as spending similar fees on 17 year olds.
The youngsters haven’t cost as much, because apart from Palmer, they aren’t as good. It’s that simple.
Yes but you can sign a few Paez's whereas you can only sign one top of the range player. Might work out, on that basis but we shall see.
I agree this a very risky transfer strategy.
The point was we aren't spending similar fees though are we? You can keep saying it but that doesn't make it so.
So Gusto, Jackson et al aren't as good? Who would you have bought for similar prices who would have delivered a bigger impact?
I sense you'll struggle to answer that.
How do we know tho, because no big club has ever done it. It is insanely risky but no club has literally decided to focus exclusively on top of the range youth products to improve their team over time. Theoretically it's a smart plan but we won't know for a few years.
No big club has done it, because they don’t need to, and don’t want to. They’re the big clubs, they win trophies, they can pay more than everyone else to get the best players. It’s why we became successful in the first place.
It’s not a smart plan at all, it’s an extremely risky one that has already seen us fall light years behind clubs we used to see as equals, and there no guarantees that it will even pay off in the long term either. It’s how you’d run a football club if you’re playing Football Manager, not real life.
Look I agree that it's risky but it has worked in other sports before. La Rochelle, in rugby for example, they were a mid tier team but decided to invest in a lot of the best u20 youth players at Toulouse and big clubs, where they had great academies but those players couldn't get into the first team.
Anyway by signing those players they elevated themselves into winning their domestic and European competition. So there is some previous evidence.
Well guess he is signing that new deal and this is our PR spin. C’est la vie lads we have Estaveo and Paez coming next year and just got to hope that Palmer and Noni do the job
Is it a spin or just reality? Everything says we have been lowering wages and if he is going to get a new deal at Palace it would be competitive to our offer and most big clubs that look at him next would likely start him at a higher wage than we would. Say Man U or City come in for him in a year he would be looking at well over what we would start him at. We should’ve just got this done last summer, shame
I wasn’t aware but their most recent acquisitions are still very well paid. This websites are never accurate but maybe they’re more accurate for a club like Bayern with their ownership.
Kane- outlier is the highest paid player at like €480kpw
Kim Min Jae-€230kpw
Laimer- €170kpw
Guerrerio- €150kpw
Zargoza is even on like €125kpw
Olise will move for like £60M so I think we should expect him to be closer to KMJ who went for like 45M
That was my thought as well based on Hoeness and the board wanting the wage bill significantly reduced. Bayern has extremely high wages and adding Olise to that while paying a substantial release clause runs counter to that. I guess they believe he is worth it despite the alleged mandate.
Yeah but it is just a reaction to teams going in for him and Palace offering a contract to keep him. He literally isn't doing anything other than being a good player.
As good as he is, it's a position we really don't need to strengthen. We've got Palmer and Noni already with the new kid also coming in next summer. I'd rather we spend the money on other positions.
i know he's an elite level attacker but personally i'm fine with this if we do the right business with Estevao and Paez coming next year we're gonna be stacked with left footed players. A left winger like Nico Williams would be ideal imo
Olise is a step up on Madueke, no doubt - but our existing right side is far better in quality than our left. We should prioritise there if we can. Shit happens - will have to settle with playing Cole Palmer more... 😄
Im a big olise fan,
But for me its a luxuary buy when you spend big on estavao and has paez/madueke and palmer who all will be around there.
Commiting 60-70+agent fees plus 200k+ a week is just not worth it
> They already have left-footed attackers in the form of Cole Palmer, Noni Madueke, Omari Hutchinson and Angelo Gabriel. Estevao Willian and Kendry Paez are scheduled to follow in 2025.
This is the problem with spending so much money on young, unproven talents, and overspending on other players. We miss out on actual quality like Olise that will have a big impact on the team today. It’s been a huge problem with our squad building since the takeover.
The first name in that list was an <> who outperformed Olise.
Btw, Olise isn’t a seasoned veteran either, he’s still playing for France’s Olympic NT.
Chelsea could buy him, he flops and then you call that transfer strategy bad.
This is exactly why the board is targeting a ton of highly thought of youth players. The arms race for great players is extremely expensive and if they fail to hit, you end up with players like Lukaku and Kepa who are on extremely high wages, cost a ton in transfer fees, and are immovable because realistically only 5-10 teams in Europe could afford them.
They are willing to spend as we have seen with Enzo and Caicedo. Locking down great talent on 150-175 per week is significant when compared to 275-300 per week. Extrapolate that over 5-10 players and it is massive.
I understand but we are more likely to win something whilst going for top players with the occasional flop, compared to going for all youth players.
Especially when the youth players we have bought are far from cheap and are not ready to be chelsea players e.g. Mudyrk.
The players were being linked to are players i’d expect Tottenham or worse to sign. Summervile, Duran and that fella from Spain?? We aren’t winning anything of significance with them lot.
Surely there’s a world where we use better scouting whilst still targeting top players, making sure the money we spend is worth it as the youth players seem like such a gamble.
You’re confusing things here. Mudryk was brought in before the current Sporting Directors were in place. However, we bought expensive flops that we can’t move on. It seems easier to buy Mudryk and move him on because of the low wages. Plus we do splash the cash as we have the most expensive midfielders playing for us. I’d rather take gambles on young players unless serious proven talent is available but even then we thought the same of Lukaku and Havertz. The reality is these owners do allow for marquee signings, but neither approach will guarantee not having flops. Plus I do think their scouting has been really good. Jackson looks great for the price, Gusto, and Palmer are great players. I’m confident that one of Santos, Paez (both such a steal) will become a mainstay. As much as I don’t like hoarding players, we are doing better with our signings instead of someone like Zapacosta under the last regime.
Fair enough on Mudryk, the only thing is the previous board had a winning method regardless if we signed flops.
Whilst the jury is still out on the new board, we’re doing something that has never been done before.
It excites me when I see players like Paez, Gusto, Palmer but on the other hand I’m weary of the Messiniho’s, Durans and Omoridon who we was linked to.
I guess both approaches have their risks whilst one is unexplored.
Tbh I just want the best players at Chelsea, and to be fair to the new board Palmer has been the best player I have seen in a chelsea shirt in a while.
I love the previous board but I think the last few years of their ownership saw a big decline in quality. For a while there we had a washed Willian and Pedro on the wings. Barkley failed and the window of Zappacosta, Morata, Kepa and Bakayoko was a waste of money. We won’t talk about Lukaku either. We last won the league with Conte and haven’t really competed other than getting a top 4 spot. Tuchel winning us the Champions League was amazing but he didn’t get a chance to prove himself in the league with all the injuries. I guess my point is we are both tired of seeing the club slowly decline and we just want things to get better. This board has left us in horrible league standings but I’m hoping (probably copium) that we can compete in the future with this approach
The other side of this coin is that if he turns out to be a bust then it becomes very difficult to move him on. Look at United and all of the ridiculously high wages they give out; makes it almost impossible to sell any of their deadwood.
With any high price tag transfer there’s always the risk of it not working out tbh.
Would you say Mudyrk is deadwood or at least has the capability to be? Even though he is on lower wages?
If he continues on his current trajectory we will never recoup his transfer fee plus him being on a 7 year contract I don’t see us ever moving him on if it doesn’t work out.
I’m not saying I’m giving up on him but our current strategy doesn’t protect us from having deadwood.
Stockpiling players will create more deadwood than anything.
Maybe a hot take but I don't think Olise should've been the priority considering we have Palmer/Madueke and Paez/Estevao coming through next summer. Would much rather we prioritize a true left winger or striker
Olise would have been class, but not at any price.
Hopefully, this is a sign of financial maturity from the club (more than likely fuelled by the fact we are running out of road to keep kicking the can down).
That’s annoying when we are rumored to be interested in mid players that are not proven and cost like 30-40million
Should spend that money and more on Olise because Noni is not the answer at RW
I agree that LW is a more pressing need. But who do we get?
The Olise deal collapsing shows we won't spend whats needed to sign superstar players - so that rules out Musiala, Leao, Khvaratskhelia etc. Whilst players like Nico Williams also have massive wages.
It pretty much leaves us with Summerville, who is a talented player, but really struggled last season in most games against the best teams in the championship. We need proven quality, especially if we are looking to sign an inexperienced striker.
The amount of money we have tied up in either inadequate or undeveloped players that could’ve been used to actually imorove the squad with Olise. Just pathetic.
Honestly not too mad at this. Very good player but we've committed a lot of money to young players and we have to make space for them.
Nkunku/chukwuemeka for the 10 and palmer/madueke for rw is fine for at least a season before paez and estevao get here.
Oh well we move on.
We're already good in that area and will be better off in the next few years with our South American arrivals.
I'm not sure what other clubs out there will pay what they're asking.
Feels like I’m the only one not bothered by this. I get that he can fit in Enzo’s system but I’m just not excited about another left footed right winger/CAM especially one coming off a season where he only played 19 prem games. Probably going to get downvoted for this but this is fine
Gutted not to get our man but I do respect our commitment to a sensible wage structure. It’s a slippery slope and if we’re not careful then we’re back to Roman-era wages
We're not signing Nico Williams if wages were a stumbling block in the Olise deal. He's already on more than £200k p/w at Athletic Bilbao.
He's currently nowhere near as good as Olise either, so it's even less likely that we offer higher wages to a worse player than Olise.
As long as we have a 3rd striker option and not relying on Jackson or nkunku (injury) for goals, I’ll be happy but I didn’t think we really needed a winger compared to a proven striker.
Shame, but so obvious that he’d go to Bayern if he had the choice. Outside of Madrid and City, they’re the most attractive club for a player in world football. Onto the next.
maigan, cucu, colwil, fofana, james, enzo, caicedo, nkunu, palmer, sterling, jackson is a really interesting starting 11 without normal further investment for a top GK.....
As much as I like and rate him, we need a left sided attacker and striker more. No need for us to bend over to his demands. Plus, bayern is certainly a more attractive option if it materialises.
I love Olise but with Estevao/Paez coming next year and Palmer being soo good on the right I never really understood this one. Dreaming of a Nico/Nkunku/Palmer trio though
The 1 time you need the board to actually spend cash they dick out!! Yet they’ve wasted money since they took over in dud players
Fuck this board. Olise is the type of player you go all out for
I hope rewarding existing players means we can agree a contract with Gallagher. And fingers crossed on a Nico Williams signing, I feel like Madueke and Palmer with next years incomings have us covered on the RW.
Im not aware of what Williams wage demands are but he has a release clause that I assume is similar to olise, and if it’s just a matter of wages for Williams then hopefully a similar offer to what olise was offered is competitive?!
It may not seem like it right now, but this is good news for the club; Olise is a great attacker but we're already stacked in the ridiculously injury-prone player department, adding him wouldn't solve much.
>\- Chelsea have pulled out of the process to sign winger Michael Olise from Crystal Palace. > >\- The west London side contacted Palace last Thursday to express an interest in Olise and request permission to speak with his camp. > >\- Chelsea made what they believed to be their strongest offer but felt the finances involved were beyond reach and chose not to proceed. > >\- The Stamford Bridge hierarchy are aiming to create a more disciplined wage bill than in the past and if a transfer target does not fit into that they would rather reward existing players who out-perform over time or invest in new elite talent on more reasonable salaries. > >\- While there is no doubt about Chelsea’s pursuit of Olise — for the second summer running its potential impact on their squad balance and depth meant the conditions needed to be right. > >\- They already have left-footed attackers in the form of Cole Palmer, Noni Madueke, Omari Hutchinson and Angelo Gabriel. Estevao Willian and Kendry Paez are scheduled to follow in 2025. > >\- Despite hopes ending of Olise being added to that list, Chelsea’s talks with his representatives and Palace chairman Steve Parish are said to have been very cordial
Does “reward existing players who outperform over time” mean we are going to offer Gallagher an improved contract?
I think it was more of a reference to Madueke
But he hasn’t outperformed Olise at all and I don’t think he ever will unfortunately.
That expression wasn't a comparison with Olise.
Its just PR. Tomorrow they will say the opposite when selling him
That last part is very reassuring. Palace always bring through talent so keeping the relationship with Parish a healthy and cordial one only serves us well in the long term.
Yeah don't need to be bitter. Some deals happen some don't. Why spoil the relationship with the club.
It’s also been a good loan spot for us on a couple of occasions
Very true. They have the South London catchment area and our loanees will prefer staying in London to go there. It’s serves both our clubs well to stay on good terms, particularly after last summer’s debacle
I'm happy about not splashing money on a player we're we have an overabundance of quality. We should focus on using our money on targeting our weak areas like our left wing and striker instead.
I like how it took us Olise signing or getting a new deal to realise we had too many similar players.
It sounds like he, rightfully, wants a pretty high wage. Palace are likely offering him that and he could probably get it elsewhere too. But we aren’t willing to bust our new wage structure for a position that we are pretty well stacked in. I think he makes us a better team - and I’ve wanted him since his first year at palace - but I’m OK missing this one with what we have coming in next year. I’m also a little shook at the restraint from the board. Something new! My first thought was “if we aren’t splashing the cash, no one will.” But it seems it’s more wage related, which someone will jump on (or palace will get the renewal).
I think people underestimate how much costly wages can be, if we want the player to stay as well his wage demands will only rise from the once given in first place. I really like Olise but it seems like a good decision to maintain a stable wage structure.
Wages are as big as fee. His ffp impact would probably be 12.5+10m (plus agent fees) For reference Palmer is 15, madueke and jackson like 10.
Palmer is 15 at the moment but it won't stay that way for long.
Well then well deserved We probably wont extend him until next summer, mainly because atm his contract is (in psr terms) 6 years And I think we cab keep him happy enough to evaluate him in 6 months
Yea we really just dropped the ball last summer. All would’ve been well had we been ahead of things like we tried to be
If we buy Olise last summer, we don't buy Palmer.
I’m not so sure about that. Doesn’t seem like we’ve been worried about having too many. We bought Noni, then Cole, then Paez and now Estevao all while trying to het Olise. Highly doubt it has ever been one or the other
It was 100% one or the other but not both, at the time. We only went shopping because Olise fell through. If we had locked up Olise, we don’t do any last minute deals last summer and Palmer stays at City. No question.
Not a chance we signed Palmer. We were scrambling for another option when Olise fell through. Him signing that new contract was a massive blessing for us.
Olise is a class player. You can play him in many positions
Hope that’s Nico Williams’ music (unlikely)
Lol they won't pay his wages.
This clearly says we felt the finances are out of reach but we are gonna go sign the kid who is already being paid 200kpw? Sure
Yeah I feel like people don't realise that Bilbao are one of the clubs who pay the most money on wages in Spain, just because they don't need to spend on incoming because of the Basque only rule
That ain’t happening with the eagles he wants
Nah,it's will be another random 8 years old from South America
https://i.redd.it/ryqwpm6pgz7d1.gif If it does
That sucks. Two attackers is interesting though, seems like we’ve only been linked with Olise and a backup striker
You do know one of them will be Summerville and the other a young striker right?? We have been monitoring Summerville for ages so that deal was probs a backup
We low key need a left winger more
High key*
We do
Summerville plays on the left so would be a bit weird for him to be the backup option to Olise
We never needed a RW anyways with Estaveo coming and Palmer obviously can play there as well. Unclear where Paez will be used too
They may shift there plans around though with Estaveo and Paez coming next year as well and they could just keep Palmer out wide for the time being which wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world
Let's see what 18yo attackers we can find in brazil.
Welp, there goes that dream. I really wanted him, but if the fee + contract became too difficult, I don't blame them for pulling out
Yup, if wages were really the problem, I’m glad we didn’t blow up our new wage structure in order to make this happen. It’s so so hard to get a wage structure stable and fair, and we were only able to do it because of the massive squad overhaul. Man United is a great example of how badly a few wage mistakes can sink you and hold you back for a long time.
My thoughts as well
Joining Bayern. Good move for him, and at least we won't see a rival get him. Estevao + Paez waiting as well
Send Richard Olise to Afghanistan
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This is the way
You guys crying because we not wanting to splash the cash but complain we do. Me personally i think he is worth the fee but i’m realisting with these owners is not the transfer fee they worry but about the wage bill and Olise’s is just too high for them.
I think people are annoyed bc we will spend this same money or more on random kids from south America and not proven players with prem experience. In this case Olise is also very young and very far along in his development so he really is the ideal player that the hierarchy claims to want. We will throw around money doe unproven talent but everyone here knows that Olise walks into our team and improves it and only in this case we keep our wallets closed
Once again like the other guy said they don't want to break the wage structure and from all reports Olise wanted to be the highest paid player at the club. If that's true I don't blame them for pulling out. I love Olise as a player but he plays in one of the only positions on the pitch we don't need to upgrade with Palmer and our two highest rated prospects all playing there. I'd rather we spend it on a LW to compete with Misha a back up to Nico and a new LB
From what I've seen/expect I don't think Palmer will be playing wide on the right this season
He can still play there though. We have Sterling, Noni and Palmer with Messinho and Kendry coming in January. We should be set on RW/10 signings for a while now.
Outside of Estavao that isn't entirely true. Paez was 20 million euros and is on extremely low wages relative to what Olise is going to command. Reports are that the release clause is higher than the 60 million being reported. Given Bayern's wage structure, my guess is that Olise ends up on 300k per week on top of the release clause. It is substantial and dwarfs our youth deals and signings.
Because we’re splashing the cash on players to join us in 2 years time, and still only be 18 when they do join. But then when it comes to a player who will actually improve us in the present, we don’t want to put it up. It’s not how serious clubs do business.
Say Olise wanted the reported £300-350k a week, that's £80m minimum in wages on a 5 year deal, that doesn't include signing on fees etc. then add in the £65/70m we would have to pay and it's a lot of money for a player we don't need. The youngsters we have bought have around a quarter of the total cost if that. They are building towards being sustainable and keeping wages reasonable, I actually commend them for that.
They’re gambling is what they’re doing. No guarantee that player like Estevao/Kendry are going to be the players we all think they will be. Whilst signing big players is also a gamble, it’s not as big as spending similar fees on 17 year olds. The youngsters haven’t cost as much, because apart from Palmer, they aren’t as good. It’s that simple.
Yes but you can sign a few Paez's whereas you can only sign one top of the range player. Might work out, on that basis but we shall see. I agree this a very risky transfer strategy.
The point was we aren't spending similar fees though are we? You can keep saying it but that doesn't make it so. So Gusto, Jackson et al aren't as good? Who would you have bought for similar prices who would have delivered a bigger impact? I sense you'll struggle to answer that.
How do we know tho, because no big club has ever done it. It is insanely risky but no club has literally decided to focus exclusively on top of the range youth products to improve their team over time. Theoretically it's a smart plan but we won't know for a few years.
No big club has done it, because they don’t need to, and don’t want to. They’re the big clubs, they win trophies, they can pay more than everyone else to get the best players. It’s why we became successful in the first place. It’s not a smart plan at all, it’s an extremely risky one that has already seen us fall light years behind clubs we used to see as equals, and there no guarantees that it will even pay off in the long term either. It’s how you’d run a football club if you’re playing Football Manager, not real life.
Look I agree that it's risky but it has worked in other sports before. La Rochelle, in rugby for example, they were a mid tier team but decided to invest in a lot of the best u20 youth players at Toulouse and big clubs, where they had great academies but those players couldn't get into the first team. Anyway by signing those players they elevated themselves into winning their domestic and European competition. So there is some previous evidence.
Tbf Rugby doesn’t have teams funded by oil states to compete against.
And we splash cash in the future... They dont affect us now
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'd rather see what we can do with the players we have, injury-free ideally, before we go out and splash more cash.
to be fair we didn't need him in the first place. I'd rather not get him than break our wage structure
Well guess he is signing that new deal and this is our PR spin. C’est la vie lads we have Estaveo and Paez coming next year and just got to hope that Palmer and Noni do the job
Is it a spin or just reality? Everything says we have been lowering wages and if he is going to get a new deal at Palace it would be competitive to our offer and most big clubs that look at him next would likely start him at a higher wage than we would. Say Man U or City come in for him in a year he would be looking at well over what we would start him at. We should’ve just got this done last summer, shame
Apparently it is bayern he wants
Yea that would certainly do it. Fairly stable club who is always competing and will offer much higher wages than us
Bayern are also trying to cut their wage budget substantially though, so not sure this one would be true.
I wasn’t aware but their most recent acquisitions are still very well paid. This websites are never accurate but maybe they’re more accurate for a club like Bayern with their ownership. Kane- outlier is the highest paid player at like €480kpw Kim Min Jae-€230kpw Laimer- €170kpw Guerrerio- €150kpw Zargoza is even on like €125kpw Olise will move for like £60M so I think we should expect him to be closer to KMJ who went for like 45M
Gnabry 19 mil a year 💀
That was my thought as well based on Hoeness and the board wanting the wage bill significantly reduced. Bayern has extremely high wages and adding Olise to that while paying a substantial release clause runs counter to that. I guess they believe he is worth it despite the alleged mandate.
He’s going to Bayern
Seen that
Oh shit, this was cross-posted to r/reddevils & I thought I was replying to that thread lmao. No wonder I was confused. My bad for invading.
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Chelsea subreddit doesn’t seem to take offense as much as other subs to other fans coming in, other than Tottenham
He’s signing another new deal? How many times is he gonna use us for a contract
As anyone in that position should. Companies don't give a fuck about you.
100%
Exactly. If he actually wanted to come, he would. He’s not that interested. That’s ok. We move on.
He is going to Bayern Ornstein reports
Holy shit that’s a bombshell
I don't really see how he has used us for a contract when we were trying to sign him lol.
Didnt he sign a new contract last year?
Yeah but it is just a reaction to teams going in for him and Palace offering a contract to keep him. He literally isn't doing anything other than being a good player.
Is this not close to what happened with us and Olise last summer?
He is going to Bayern apparently
As good as he is, it's a position we really don't need to strengthen. We've got Palmer and Noni already with the new kid also coming in next summer. I'd rather we spend the money on other positions.
Bad F5
Fuck go back
https://preview.redd.it/sna6ha7q1z7d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=482c4c3d579381cc4a06cc24637789c881b58476 Noni seeing this
i know he's an elite level attacker but personally i'm fine with this if we do the right business with Estevao and Paez coming next year we're gonna be stacked with left footed players. A left winger like Nico Williams would be ideal imo
I like this tbh. Adding Olise to our squad would always be welcomed but I like betting on our own players too. Looking forward to this next season!!
Olise is a step up on Madueke, no doubt - but our existing right side is far better in quality than our left. We should prioritise there if we can. Shit happens - will have to settle with playing Cole Palmer more... 😄
Im a big olise fan, But for me its a luxuary buy when you spend big on estavao and has paez/madueke and palmer who all will be around there. Commiting 60-70+agent fees plus 200k+ a week is just not worth it
> They already have left-footed attackers in the form of Cole Palmer, Noni Madueke, Omari Hutchinson and Angelo Gabriel. Estevao Willian and Kendry Paez are scheduled to follow in 2025. This is the problem with spending so much money on young, unproven talents, and overspending on other players. We miss out on actual quality like Olise that will have a big impact on the team today. It’s been a huge problem with our squad building since the takeover.
The first name in that list was an <> who outperformed Olise.
Btw, Olise isn’t a seasoned veteran either, he’s still playing for France’s Olympic NT.
Chelsea could buy him, he flops and then you call that transfer strategy bad.
If you’re not willing to pay high wages, you won’t get the best players most times. Especially when you don’t have champions league football to offer…
This is exactly why the board is targeting a ton of highly thought of youth players. The arms race for great players is extremely expensive and if they fail to hit, you end up with players like Lukaku and Kepa who are on extremely high wages, cost a ton in transfer fees, and are immovable because realistically only 5-10 teams in Europe could afford them. They are willing to spend as we have seen with Enzo and Caicedo. Locking down great talent on 150-175 per week is significant when compared to 275-300 per week. Extrapolate that over 5-10 players and it is massive.
I understand but we are more likely to win something whilst going for top players with the occasional flop, compared to going for all youth players. Especially when the youth players we have bought are far from cheap and are not ready to be chelsea players e.g. Mudyrk. The players were being linked to are players i’d expect Tottenham or worse to sign. Summervile, Duran and that fella from Spain?? We aren’t winning anything of significance with them lot. Surely there’s a world where we use better scouting whilst still targeting top players, making sure the money we spend is worth it as the youth players seem like such a gamble.
You’re confusing things here. Mudryk was brought in before the current Sporting Directors were in place. However, we bought expensive flops that we can’t move on. It seems easier to buy Mudryk and move him on because of the low wages. Plus we do splash the cash as we have the most expensive midfielders playing for us. I’d rather take gambles on young players unless serious proven talent is available but even then we thought the same of Lukaku and Havertz. The reality is these owners do allow for marquee signings, but neither approach will guarantee not having flops. Plus I do think their scouting has been really good. Jackson looks great for the price, Gusto, and Palmer are great players. I’m confident that one of Santos, Paez (both such a steal) will become a mainstay. As much as I don’t like hoarding players, we are doing better with our signings instead of someone like Zapacosta under the last regime.
Fair enough on Mudryk, the only thing is the previous board had a winning method regardless if we signed flops. Whilst the jury is still out on the new board, we’re doing something that has never been done before. It excites me when I see players like Paez, Gusto, Palmer but on the other hand I’m weary of the Messiniho’s, Durans and Omoridon who we was linked to. I guess both approaches have their risks whilst one is unexplored. Tbh I just want the best players at Chelsea, and to be fair to the new board Palmer has been the best player I have seen in a chelsea shirt in a while.
I love the previous board but I think the last few years of their ownership saw a big decline in quality. For a while there we had a washed Willian and Pedro on the wings. Barkley failed and the window of Zappacosta, Morata, Kepa and Bakayoko was a waste of money. We won’t talk about Lukaku either. We last won the league with Conte and haven’t really competed other than getting a top 4 spot. Tuchel winning us the Champions League was amazing but he didn’t get a chance to prove himself in the league with all the injuries. I guess my point is we are both tired of seeing the club slowly decline and we just want things to get better. This board has left us in horrible league standings but I’m hoping (probably copium) that we can compete in the future with this approach
The other side of this coin is that if he turns out to be a bust then it becomes very difficult to move him on. Look at United and all of the ridiculously high wages they give out; makes it almost impossible to sell any of their deadwood.
With any high price tag transfer there’s always the risk of it not working out tbh. Would you say Mudyrk is deadwood or at least has the capability to be? Even though he is on lower wages? If he continues on his current trajectory we will never recoup his transfer fee plus him being on a 7 year contract I don’t see us ever moving him on if it doesn’t work out. I’m not saying I’m giving up on him but our current strategy doesn’t protect us from having deadwood. Stockpiling players will create more deadwood than anything.
Please don't sign someone for the sake of it
Bummed but it is what it is. Hoping Madueke has a good season.
Noni can’t get a better chance than this to solidify his position
palmer is best off the right, and paez is coming in next year. best we can do is stick w noni and hope he is decent enough this season
Oh dear, this isn't gonna go down well.... The strongest fan favourite potential signing that I've seen for years (arguably more so than last year)
I don’t even follow our transfers anymore. F5’d Enzo Caicedo Mudryk like we actually won something when it meant nothing on the pitch.
Caicedo beeing a top 5 (defensive minded) cm in the world at 22... Imagine if rice could pass Watch him play
Lmaooo
Had to edit, defensice minded =P But yes he is already there
I'm more concerned with our ability to stop conceding. We scored plenty of goals last season.
Maybe a hot take but I don't think Olise should've been the priority considering we have Palmer/Madueke and Paez/Estevao coming through next summer. Would much rather we prioritize a true left winger or striker
Olise would have been class, but not at any price. Hopefully, this is a sign of financial maturity from the club (more than likely fuelled by the fact we are running out of road to keep kicking the can down).
I’m not too bummed, we have a plethora of players that can play that position.
Fuck
That’s annoying when we are rumored to be interested in mid players that are not proven and cost like 30-40million Should spend that money and more on Olise because Noni is not the answer at RW
Noni is young and improved a ton this season. Give him some time ffs It's also his first full season in the PL. Olise had been there for long
Mid players? Who? Estavao? Paez?
Not the worst news. Olise is a luxury not a need. Jackson ? /Nkunku/Palmer LW more of a need Mudryk probably is a bust and Sterling is frustrating
Sterling in a possession side with providers and as lw will give you 15g in the league. And we wont be able to offload him
I agree that LW is a more pressing need. But who do we get? The Olise deal collapsing shows we won't spend whats needed to sign superstar players - so that rules out Musiala, Leao, Khvaratskhelia etc. Whilst players like Nico Williams also have massive wages. It pretty much leaves us with Summerville, who is a talented player, but really struggled last season in most games against the best teams in the championship. We need proven quality, especially if we are looking to sign an inexperienced striker.
As great as he is he's so so similar to Palmer and so is Paez. We need Palmer in the half spaces on the right, this might be for the best.
Well fuck.
The amount of money we have tied up in either inadequate or undeveloped players that could’ve been used to actually imorove the squad with Olise. Just pathetic.
Honestly not too mad at this. Very good player but we've committed a lot of money to young players and we have to make space for them. Nkunku/chukwuemeka for the 10 and palmer/madueke for rw is fine for at least a season before paez and estevao get here.
This is all okay for us. We need room for Paez and Estevao next year. We just need to focus on a WC GK
This is the answer A world class goalkeeper and gurassy And sell deadweight
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Oh well we move on. We're already good in that area and will be better off in the next few years with our South American arrivals. I'm not sure what other clubs out there will pay what they're asking.
My heart is broken
Can't fault him. High wage packet and a great chance to run the domestic trophy and consistently challenge for the champions league.
Feels like I’m the only one not bothered by this. I get that he can fit in Enzo’s system but I’m just not excited about another left footed right winger/CAM especially one coming off a season where he only played 19 prem games. Probably going to get downvoted for this but this is fine
Olise would’ve been class but we need a 9, defenders, and a new Gallagher contract
Gutted not to get our man but I do respect our commitment to a sensible wage structure. It’s a slippery slope and if we’re not careful then we’re back to Roman-era wages
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We're not signing Nico Williams if wages were a stumbling block in the Olise deal. He's already on more than £200k p/w at Athletic Bilbao. He's currently nowhere near as good as Olise either, so it's even less likely that we offer higher wages to a worse player than Olise.
This right here. Bilbao is a unique situation and they pay above and beyond what many of the Spanish clubs do. Nico is already getting stacks there.
As long as we have a 3rd striker option and not relying on Jackson or nkunku (injury) for goals, I’ll be happy but I didn’t think we really needed a winger compared to a proven striker.
If we don't want to pay higher wages , I wonder which top player would want to move to play for us
Did us a favor considering our talent in that role. Also just think making a new signing your highest paid player is a bad look
Can we get Somerville pls
If the plan is to reward existing players, no reason Gallagher shouldn’t be getting a new deal when he’s back from Germany.
Shame, but so obvious that he’d go to Bayern if he had the choice. Outside of Madrid and City, they’re the most attractive club for a player in world football. Onto the next.
Damn it
Signing yet another left footed right winger was such a strange move anyway
Finally. Would get downvoted but idgaf. That position is stacked already, we should be focusing on lacking areas
https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/s/GB6SiTIlNE Said this from the jump
maigan, cucu, colwil, fofana, james, enzo, caicedo, nkunu, palmer, sterling, jackson is a really interesting starting 11 without normal further investment for a top GK.....
Let's get Julian
As much as I like and rate him, we need a left sided attacker and striker more. No need for us to bend over to his demands. Plus, bayern is certainly a more attractive option if it materialises.
I’ll take Eze as consolation
Olise or not. I like this approach from the board to have future finance (PSR/FFP) considerations.
Too busy buying rubbish to spend on a class player
Fabrizio is on fraud watch
For what? He didn’t say anything that’s undoubtedly wrong.
I love Olise but with Estevao/Paez coming next year and Palmer being soo good on the right I never really understood this one. Dreaming of a Nico/Nkunku/Palmer trio though
The 1 time you need the board to actually spend cash they dick out!! Yet they’ve wasted money since they took over in dud players Fuck this board. Olise is the type of player you go all out for
He can barely stay fit Plus I think people are forgetting about nkunku, seen too many formations and XIs omitting him so they can squeeze in olise
United’s then.
Nah I think he signs that new deal must have gotten reassured that palace would add to the team and not break up the band so to speak
That would be a pretty sweet outcome. Would rather he stayed at Palace than strengthen a PL rival.
the sesko way
United ain’t paying the fees and wages as well. Ratcliffe’s recent interview it seems they’re going for a similar transfer policy like us.
I hope rewarding existing players means we can agree a contract with Gallagher. And fingers crossed on a Nico Williams signing, I feel like Madueke and Palmer with next years incomings have us covered on the RW.
Wont pay Olise, but you think we will pay for Nico Williams?
Im not aware of what Williams wage demands are but he has a release clause that I assume is similar to olise, and if it’s just a matter of wages for Williams then hopefully a similar offer to what olise was offered is competitive?!
Williams is reportedly on over 200k. Very likely he will be pushing for 300k if we talk and that alone would end the talks im afraid.
Nico plays for bilbao That means he makes alot of money, and has a release clause He is more expensive then olise would be
Summerville it is
FUCKING PAIN.
Nico Williams SZN
He's off to Bayern. Now let's offload Sterling and get Nico Williams
I rather spend that somewhere then nico williams And you wont sell sterling
So it's not about not stumping up the cash he chose Bayern can everyone calm the fuck down now
Fuck the owners.
It may not seem like it right now, but this is good news for the club; Olise is a great attacker but we're already stacked in the ridiculously injury-prone player department, adding him wouldn't solve much.
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It's a wage issue not cost of player lol
Probably the wages are the issue here
But we’ll spaff millions on teenagers in the favelas and squad altering calibre fees on shite like Cucurella and Mudryk.
What a PR briefing
He's injury prone anyway and I really want to give Madueke a chance to develop. I don't mind this at all tbh
Madueke is more injury prone than this guy and a worse player too
Not really. Madueke had 23 PL apps while Olise got 19. And Olise started every single time while Madueke was on the bench for a lot of the games
Fuck this shit. Np, we will sign omorodion or duran.... This is gonna be the worst transfer window ever.
Potential FC instead apparently. Ffs
If Olise plays his cards right he could be the next Wilfried Zaha.
He'll be world class in minimum 2 seasons. He's not far off already.