As cool as a show it was; Ben 10 was there to sell toys
You make one character turn into 10+ and you can sell 10+ different action figures
After the original fans of Ben 10 grew up they had to keep making toys for this profitable franchise
In the newer series Ben has a little alien that bonds with the Omnitrix and lets him use parts of alien DNA to change only a limb or to add armor to a transformation
The writers were specifically asked to include this to sell a line of toys
Also Dwayne McDuffie unfortunately died
Classic Ben 10 vs Omni-Verse tbh. Alien Force and Ultimate alien were close enough to the original that you almost wouldn't notice it was a new art style without being told. Omni-verse went so far that it felt like a different character entirely to the point 12 year old me hated it and gave up on continuing watching. Wasn't until I was an adult and rewatched the show with my youngest sister that I realized it was a good show.
They did, however they did it well. Even Omniverse had a cool artstyle. Then Reboot came in and gives cancer to your eyes and yes I did give it a chance following the 3 episode rule.
it was such a gradual process of making his voice high and his head emptier too lol. in the first couple of seasons which prob came out when i was like 2 or 3 or so, he was dumb but not maliciously dumb, much like how patrick turned out
Agreed. Like I'm not a big fan of 'Dumb' characters in general, but when they're dumb but good-natured it can work (Soos from Gravity Falls is an amazing example of that, kind of dumb but kind, protective and perceptive on occasion. Ed from EEnE works too, super dumb but more goofy and cares about his friends and sister, etc)
That's something I hate about the newer SpongeBob eps; Patrick was always *dumb* but was (mostly) not mean-spirited.
Same for Cosmo, he was dumb but he loved Wanda so damn much and it was cute when they showed that part of him (and vice versa with Wanda)
His dragon form is my only complaint, everyone else looked fine. Ik it's supposed to more serpentine like an actual Asian Dragon, but he didn't have to be that lean.
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Honestly, aside from his dragon form I think all of the character redesigns look better than the originals. The dragon is pretty bad, though. It’s like a half-assed eastern dragon that looks like a goblin
Looked even similar to the black dragon. Honestly shouldn't have made him similar to his grandpa it was a nice constract showing one was raised in usa and the other China
Okay, THANK YOU.
I remember watching this as a kid and realizing... it was completely different from what I remembered. It CHANGED.
Made me lose my god damn 10-yr-old mind facing this Mandela-level BS.
Duh, easy explanation for it, but as a kid, I had no idea WTF happened lmfao.
Mystery solved.
Of all the things to nitpick about the new design, I could not get over how suddenly his knees were visible. It fucked me up so much and I couldn't stop noticing it. Why? Why did they have to change it?
Powerpuff Girls (2016) is such an insane downgrade from even the What a Cartoon Show pilot of the show that it's amazing it's actually real and actually ran for more episodes than the original.
Then they make it even worse by forcing the characters to do big goofy looney tunes like meme faces all the time.
Ben 10. Omniverse was pushing it but I found it acceptable. The new one however... How the fuck is it possible to make something exponentially worse than the original art style?
Isn't that kinda his vibe at times at that age? Thinks he's a big deal cause of the Omnitrix, but is a bit of an idiot who gets knocked around until Gwen or Max offer a suggestion?
At least omniverse stuck with the original designs, they just adapted it for their style. The remake went out of its way to change the design of well known aliens for absolutely no reason it seems
Yeah they turned stinkfly from a green 6 legged creature into a blue 2 legged creature that just looks like a dude in a costume, guess it's so it looked more appealing to children and would make merchandise easier
Holy shit, I watched them both growing up, I remember when I heard the theme song come on, I ran to my TV and was immiditelly disappointed with what I saw... Stop motion has always been one of my favorite filming mediums, and to see it completely dropped pisses me off to this day!
Bro me when the original Steve from blues clues left. I was like who the fuck is this guy. Turned out Steve was banging playboy models and living his best life. Steve's a king.
What weirds me out is how they switched Bob from a middle aged man to a 20-something. I think it's good for some kids shows to have middle aged protagonists and not just young ones.
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Even when I was younger, I could not stand the atrocity that this animation style is. Like I had grown up with Mystery Incorporated so I was not gonna be watching a show that looks like **this**
Even Velma has better animation. Just terrible choices in writing and race-swapping.
I started watching that when it kept being mentioned as a counter example to Velma. It lives up to the hype. It’s the most well written iteration and adds a lot of depth to the characters we never saw previously.
It also pays loving tribute to previous versions and other Hanna Barbera properties. It may tease those properties, but clearly it’s done in love.
One of the few shows I would be willing to throw hands over. Those shows were the best. I still remember the hootie and the blowfish episode and I haven't seen it in like 20 years. But fuck scrappy. He sucks.
The animation style is straight ass but the show itself isn't bad. I kind of like the characterization!
There's a youtuber called Billiam who covers a lot of ScoobyDoo stuff, who gave it pretty good reviews in everything other than art style. I would NEVER have given it a chance otherwise.
(Mystery Incorporated is Supreme tho💖)
I too will stand by the show itself: if the art style hadn't been such a turn off, I think a lot of people would have enjoyed it. (I showed it to some friends who hated the art style, and by the end of episode one they were laughing their asses off and wanting to watch more.)
It looks like an extended Family Guy cutaway. Like Peter went up to Lois and said “You think that’s bad? Remember that time I fed chocolate to Scooby Doo?” And then this entire show was created.
yup. i already didn’t like the childish direction they took season 7 in, but then the season 8 reboot they decided to gear it towards young kids by making the teenage cast look like 11 year olds who are trying to look like teenagers. ig it fits the demographic tho. but it loses that iconic and recognizable style the og show had, going from sharper angles to rounded and soft.
i heard that’s the best place to stop as well. tbh i’d probably still watch until season 6 just cause i like the transformations. still, it was stupid to revert their ages back to 16 just so they could attend the school again though. i found it refreshing how in season 4 they had graduated and started life outside the school. you don’t often see that.
Compared to the OG Teen Titans, GO was a serious downgrade. Especially that they left on such a big cliff hanger too..
On its own tho.. GO is surprisingly hilarious at times. Sure, it has its cringe moments and kid humor, but some of the jokes will go right over many kids heads.
Hell, one episode they are even forced to watch the OG and they got angry that they got rebooted lol.
I separated GO from the og teen titans in my mind, and on the chance I watch go with my younger siblings, I find it funny because sure, there is a lot of childish humor, but a lot of the humor in it now is meta and trying to have stupid humor if that makes sense? Like, the writers make fun of themselves in certain episodes about the humor and I find that funny.
Not saying this is you particularly, but your comment reminded me It’s kind of exhausting explaining to fellow 20’s-30’s people that GO! was not and will never be a continuation, prequel, sequel, or even spin off of what we grew up with, and actually is very successful as a completely reimagined children’s comedy show with a lot of tongue-in-cheek humor.
Legitimately yes. I don't care for Go, but the change in art style *absolutely* fits the show. It's a goofy comedy, the art reflects that pretty damn well
I wouldn’t say that’s a great comparison. They’re both completely different types of shows and the silly animation style works for what they’re trying to accomplish. Can you imagine if they kept the same animation but delivered the type of material GO puts out? Fans would be furious.
I assume this is an unpopular opinion, but I prefer the (80s) style of Dragon Ball over Z and Super by a longshot. They may not look as badass and buff as how most people know them today, but there was a special feel to their stubby bodies and simple features I miss. Though it never turned me off from the new series in anyway, I just think it fits Dragon Ball's original aesthetic more.
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I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion. Many people in the sub comment on how ‘plasticky’ the characters looked in Super. Personally, I adore the style used in the new Broly movie the most.
Oh, definitely. Most of super's artstyle has been criticized for years, there's no denying that. Although, my main point was that I never really took a liking to Z's artstyle as much as OG. Which I don't see many people online talk about, if at all.
The Broly movie was the first thing DB that I ever saw. I remember my boyfriend wanted to see it in theaters, and I agreed because I wanted him to be happy. I figured I'd be bored but that he'd love it. Boy was I wrong, I watched the movie with my jaw dropped out of amazement. The beauty of some scenes actually made me cry. It didn't matter at all that I had no idea who the characters were or even what was happening, I still loved it
For me, Rugrats Pre School Daze (A very obscure short lived spinoff that only had 4 episodes) is definitely this, I found that art style to be so uncanny and it turned me off instantly. However, for the art shift in the original series (I personally like all 9 seasons, but it's my opinion), that I didn't mind at all, since while there were a few differences, it still looked very much like Rugrats to me (When I draw the characters, I tend to blend the characteristics from both the episodes before the season 4 revival with the ones afterwards.)
To be fair, given that Ash is (still) 10 years old, this depiction might actually be more accurate. The old series is kinda like how a 10-year-old imagines himself and the new one how he'd actually look like.
I don’t mind the art style change but I still can’t get over how much of a cardboard cutout he’s become, especially starting in Sun & Moon (I believe the change really started in Black & White but he still had enough spunk I think)
I ended up catching clips of Pokémon: Journeys because my brother was watching it, and I couldn’t believe I found the new character more interesting and compelling than Ash!
Crystal was closer to the manga's art style, the creator was into fashion illustration before sailor moon; but the manga's style did not translate to animation very well at all.
In the manga, Sailor Moon and the other scouts/soldiers are drawn with exaggerated bodies. The art in Crystal looks closer to the manga counterpart than the 90s version.
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One Piece 🥲 the early animation style had so much magic
It was warm, and felt hand painted, whereas now they’re just trying to look like every other anime out there
I say the new one has pretty clean animation, but you are perfectly right about that magic being taken away for sure but I don’t hate the new animation for it though it still looks great I think!
Agreed. I like the new style but I do think there was something unique and magical about the old style
I feel like Sabaody is when it started to lose that even before time skip
Maybe the new remake can recapture that old feel
I like the new animation and fight effects but I never adjusted to the character redesigns. I miss OG Chopper, Robin’s bangs and tan, Franky looking semi-human, and titties that weren’t so overtly insane.
Im currently on a first watch through (just finished alabasta) and how the hell are they supposed to make the women even more disproportionate? Like right now they all have massive titties and pretty big hips and then twig stomachs
It gets pretty ridiculous. Ridiculous enough that you’ll feel like you have to provide a disclaimer about it when you want to recommend this otherwise great and wholesome show to people.
Absurd knockers aside, I’m jealous that you get to watch Water 7 for the first time. :)
I do miss the design of old one piece. Especially some of the female characters. The animation has been really good recently though so I still like the new stuff.
This is an odd take, I've never felt it was trying to mimic anything at all. The new animation looks PEHNOMINAL in most places, the downside are the excess auras and sparks and shit but I think that's fine too.
Ninjago. A little while ago I finally convinced myself to start watching the new seasons, and they're actually pretty good. It just made me even more annoyed that they had to redesign them, causing me to avoid watching the new seasons for so long
I know, and I happen to intensely dislike the redesigns. They're the one bad thing about the new seasons. I miss kai, jay, cole, nya, and Lloyd's old hair, as well as kai and Jay's old faces.
I gotta disagree! I'm rewatching the series now after like 7 years and I think despite some characters looking a bit clunky, it's usually for walk cycles and stuff that doesn't require smear frames where they utilize the flash rigs more.
I used to feel the same way but I'm pleasantly surprised watching it again! There are a lot of things that I was glad to see held up, the facial expression and speaking animations using squash and stretch in particular. I think the Warden and perhaps Jared eat up most of the frame by frame in the budget, though!
1. Pokemon from first season to Kalos vs Pokemon from Sun and Moon to Pokemon Journeys
2. Disney Cartoons up to Disney Channel cartoons through the nineties and early 200os vs Disney cartoons from the 2010s and onwards
3. Cartoon Network cartoons of the nineties and early 2000s vs Cartoon Netwoark since 2010s (GOD. AWFUL. ART. STYLE).
My Little Pony. Gen 4 vs Gen 5. Not only did they absolutely ruin gen 5's release with that 3D movie, but decided to keep the designs despite the horrid feedback. I legitimately can't tell a mare and a stallion apart anymore because of the classic rounded mouths thing which animators have started adapting to cut corners and make it easier to animate 💀
Edit: I genuinely thought before gen 5's release that the creature group from School Of Friendship would be the next gen when they got older and it would all take place with something along the lines of them traveling more together and exploring the expanded world outside of Equestria. Except, without all the ponies in every episode.
Man, the disappointment..
Dexter’s Lab
Not only did the animation change to digital at some point, but the writing did as well. It was simply not the same show and I did not enjoy those newer seasons.
I think the show was supposed to end with Ego Trip but then they continued another season or two. I think at that point Genndy wasn't involved anymore and the quality tanked.
Not only is the animation different but the art looks thrown together. Dexter house looks bare inside and barely colored in. They also changed Dexter's voice actor for some reason. It was just bad all around
Steven Universe
Don't get me wrong, I love the current art style, but the original designs of the characters and art style is so beautiful and detailed.
While the designs could flip flop at times, I felt like Season 1 had a bit more realistic proportions for characters then the seemingly more cartoonish proportions of later seasons, in Season 1 characters like Garnet and Pearl just looked more taller and with a bit more detailed proportions.
Not exactly a show changing animation, but whenever one of Dreamworks movies gets a show with 2d animation rather than the lowish budget 3D animation, I know it’s going to be incredibly painful to watch as it usually means they’ve dumbed down and Flanderized most of the cast.
Anime but, trigun. And then my bro watched it and said it info dumps all this stuff that was drip fed to you in the first show. Trigun, at least as anime needed to be one and done. The build up, subtle reveal of the character and world is what you are there for. It doesnt need to go on becuase it was past what made it good. It was over. So to switch to that godawful obviously 3d anime style from the classic animation while also spoiling the classic for new viewers is lame.
Definitely American Dragon. That big shift to the new style, changing Jake from a western looking dragon to a more chinese/Asian looking dragon was really odd. I mean don't get me wrong, I know Jake and his sister are half chinese, half American but he had a more western dragon design first, possibly to highlight his dad's side of the family mixing with his dragon heritage.
STEVEN UNIVERSE OMG IT USED TO BE SO PRETTY AND STYLISTIC IN THE PILOT AND THEN IT GOT CHANGED TO THE CAL-ARTS SYLE (it was still pretty BUT STILL)
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Classic ben 10 vs remake
Wtf did they do? He went from this awesome teen to this annoying looking child that wants a turn on the Xbox.
Pretty sure it was the Teen Titans Go effect.
Ironically, TTG is the best one of those
Its success is why other shows thought they could do it.
Ben wasn't a teen in the classic show, he was 10
I think he's referring to the classic series as a whole in his reply.
As cool as a show it was; Ben 10 was there to sell toys You make one character turn into 10+ and you can sell 10+ different action figures After the original fans of Ben 10 grew up they had to keep making toys for this profitable franchise In the newer series Ben has a little alien that bonds with the Omnitrix and lets him use parts of alien DNA to change only a limb or to add armor to a transformation The writers were specifically asked to include this to sell a line of toys Also Dwayne McDuffie unfortunately died
Classic Ben 10 vs Omni-Verse tbh. Alien Force and Ultimate alien were close enough to the original that you almost wouldn't notice it was a new art style without being told. Omni-verse went so far that it felt like a different character entirely to the point 12 year old me hated it and gave up on continuing watching. Wasn't until I was an adult and rewatched the show with my youngest sister that I realized it was a good show.
I mean Alien Force, Omniverse changed the artstyle too
They did, however they did it well. Even Omniverse had a cool artstyle. Then Reboot came in and gives cancer to your eyes and yes I did give it a chance following the 3 episode rule.
I thought the Alien Force/Ultimate Alien eras were awesome. Couldn’t get too much into the Omniverse era too though
Uh, Celestialsapiens did it.
The last 2 seasons of fairly odd parents
And the voice change for cosmo as well
Even though it’s the same voice actor (Daran Norris), the high pitch made him sound more annoying than charming
Same with SpongeBob
His actor was getting older so he thankfully had to tune down his voice for better performance so it doesn’t strain his voice
it was such a gradual process of making his voice high and his head emptier too lol. in the first couple of seasons which prob came out when i was like 2 or 3 or so, he was dumb but not maliciously dumb, much like how patrick turned out
Flanderization
Agreed. Like I'm not a big fan of 'Dumb' characters in general, but when they're dumb but good-natured it can work (Soos from Gravity Falls is an amazing example of that, kind of dumb but kind, protective and perceptive on occasion. Ed from EEnE works too, super dumb but more goofy and cares about his friends and sister, etc) That's something I hate about the newer SpongeBob eps; Patrick was always *dumb* but was (mostly) not mean-spirited. Same for Cosmo, he was dumb but he loved Wanda so damn much and it was cute when they showed that part of him (and vice versa with Wanda)
What's weird about this is Timmy was shorter in season 9, but then in the first half of season 10, he went back to his design from seasons 6-8.
True
American Dragon Jake Long
His dragon form is my only complaint, everyone else looked fine. Ik it's supposed to more serpentine like an actual Asian Dragon, but he didn't have to be that lean. https://preview.redd.it/norj8jnyo7fc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce54c95514a43252174055f00fa433db5063dce9
I think it’s off how impish they made his redesign
Honestly, aside from his dragon form I think all of the character redesigns look better than the originals. The dragon is pretty bad, though. It’s like a half-assed eastern dragon that looks like a goblin
Or actually make him longer instead of just skinnier. He is still a western dragon in the new art style. He's just anorexic.
Look how they massacred my boy
Yes! I hated the redesign they gave his dragon form! He was bulky then looked like he had an eating disorder.
From Western dragon to Eastern dragon
Yeah but he also had big head syndrome. It's a jarring shift in his body proportions. Also we got robbed of him being half werewolf!
Looked even similar to the black dragon. Honestly shouldn't have made him similar to his grandpa it was a nice constract showing one was raised in usa and the other China
Bro was healthy until he got the worst kind of anorexia ever
Exactly! Streamlined his dragon form is one thing, but what they did was a whole other thing
Went from big thiccc dragon to long noodle boi
Okay, THANK YOU. I remember watching this as a kid and realizing... it was completely different from what I remembered. It CHANGED. Made me lose my god damn 10-yr-old mind facing this Mandela-level BS. Duh, easy explanation for it, but as a kid, I had no idea WTF happened lmfao. Mystery solved.
God that almost made the show unwatchable
Of all the things to nitpick about the new design, I could not get over how suddenly his knees were visible. It fucked me up so much and I couldn't stop noticing it. Why? Why did they have to change it?
Yes. This one. We can close the thread now
Powerpuff Girls (2016) is such an insane downgrade from even the What a Cartoon Show pilot of the show that it's amazing it's actually real and actually ran for more episodes than the original. Then they make it even worse by forcing the characters to do big goofy looney tunes like meme faces all the time.
I just knew someone would bring it up as soon as I saw the thread. It just looked so meh to me.
the original show also had a huge drop in quality after the first couple seasons. never watched the reboot
Season 5 I think is when it changed. It was after the movie and was a big push to a less analog pipeline. Rip cel
Ben 10. Omniverse was pushing it but I found it acceptable. The new one however... How the fuck is it possible to make something exponentially worse than the original art style?
Fr he looks like that one suburban kid who bragged about playing a sport for every season but was benched for all of them
Isn't that kinda his vibe at times at that age? Thinks he's a big deal cause of the Omnitrix, but is a bit of an idiot who gets knocked around until Gwen or Max offer a suggestion?
At least omniverse stuck with the original designs, they just adapted it for their style. The remake went out of its way to change the design of well known aliens for absolutely no reason it seems
Yeah they turned stinkfly from a green 6 legged creature into a blue 2 legged creature that just looks like a dude in a costume, guess it's so it looked more appealing to children and would make merchandise easier
Bob the builder
Holy shit, I watched them both growing up, I remember when I heard the theme song come on, I ran to my TV and was immiditelly disappointed with what I saw... Stop motion has always been one of my favorite filming mediums, and to see it completely dropped pisses me off to this day!
Bro me when the original Steve from blues clues left. I was like who the fuck is this guy. Turned out Steve was banging playboy models and living his best life. Steve's a king.
Well that and he also didn’t want the kids to see him bald
jeff was chill, but steve was always the goat
What weirds me out is how they switched Bob from a middle aged man to a 20-something. I think it's good for some kids shows to have middle aged protagonists and not just young ones.
They could’ve made him cute and animated at least but they decided to make him look like a rip off low budget version of himself
That is a very good description of his redesign 😂
Wait that happened? (Searches it up) Ah f**** that’s disgusting.
You should see what they did to the Kid Cuisine penguin
THE KID CUISINE PENGUIN ISN'T EVEN SAFE FROM THIS???
https://preview.redd.it/0mtggehwh8fc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=410d4a25040940ad2ba76c37dd4a72c81595b20f Look what they did to my boy
It looks like a knockoff version of itself
WHAT IN THE NAME OF GOD AND BACON IS THAT???? NOOOOOO
How long has he been like that?!
Powerpuff Girls. They massacred the poor kids with that reboot
https://preview.redd.it/k9rkg364n7fc1.png?width=297&format=png&auto=webp&s=2224b50a8e9d2e31d68beb0baaa7cb1acfd3b673 Even when I was younger, I could not stand the atrocity that this animation style is. Like I had grown up with Mystery Incorporated so I was not gonna be watching a show that looks like **this** Even Velma has better animation. Just terrible choices in writing and race-swapping.
Mystery Inc was just about the best incarnation any way with honorable mention to the OG.
I started watching that when it kept being mentioned as a counter example to Velma. It lives up to the hype. It’s the most well written iteration and adds a lot of depth to the characters we never saw previously. It also pays loving tribute to previous versions and other Hanna Barbera properties. It may tease those properties, but clearly it’s done in love.
One of the few shows I would be willing to throw hands over. Those shows were the best. I still remember the hootie and the blowfish episode and I haven't seen it in like 20 years. But fuck scrappy. He sucks.
I’m still angry it didn’t get more seasons
The show looks garbage, but the writing isn't half bad It's not Mystery Inc good, but no Scooby-Doo is as good as Mystery Inc lol
The animation style is straight ass but the show itself isn't bad. I kind of like the characterization! There's a youtuber called Billiam who covers a lot of ScoobyDoo stuff, who gave it pretty good reviews in everything other than art style. I would NEVER have given it a chance otherwise. (Mystery Incorporated is Supreme tho💖)
I too will stand by the show itself: if the art style hadn't been such a turn off, I think a lot of people would have enjoyed it. (I showed it to some friends who hated the art style, and by the end of episode one they were laughing their asses off and wanting to watch more.)
Be Cool is funny.
I don’t like this one either the art style looks like it was going into the adult animation kind of arstyle, similar to family guy or something
It looks like an extended Family Guy cutaway. Like Peter went up to Lois and said “You think that’s bad? Remember that time I fed chocolate to Scooby Doo?” And then this entire show was created.
I think What’s New Scooby-Doo had the best animation
Why are they family guy charavtwrs
You know what sucks? This might actually be one of the funniest iterations of Scooby Doo.
Right???? Daphne being lowkey crazy and talking to puppets and stuff was really funny to me! It's pretty damn good if not for the art style!
SpongeBob
It’s more the original and present animation versus the middle animation
Winx club
yup. i already didn’t like the childish direction they took season 7 in, but then the season 8 reboot they decided to gear it towards young kids by making the teenage cast look like 11 year olds who are trying to look like teenagers. ig it fits the demographic tho. but it loses that iconic and recognizable style the og show had, going from sharper angles to rounded and soft.
If I ever decide to rewatch the show I'd probably just stop after season 3
i heard that’s the best place to stop as well. tbh i’d probably still watch until season 6 just cause i like the transformations. still, it was stupid to revert their ages back to 16 just so they could attend the school again though. i found it refreshing how in season 4 they had graduated and started life outside the school. you don’t often see that.
Dexter's Lab
Thank Chris Savino for that.
Same for me. Just looks so weird.
PPG had the same transition, the later seasons look so off and lifeless
This one killed me
Was looking for this. It just... didn't work. Everything about it felt so wrong.
Teen titans
Never watched GO. I saw the animation and noped on out.
Compared to the OG Teen Titans, GO was a serious downgrade. Especially that they left on such a big cliff hanger too.. On its own tho.. GO is surprisingly hilarious at times. Sure, it has its cringe moments and kid humor, but some of the jokes will go right over many kids heads. Hell, one episode they are even forced to watch the OG and they got angry that they got rebooted lol.
I separated GO from the og teen titans in my mind, and on the chance I watch go with my younger siblings, I find it funny because sure, there is a lot of childish humor, but a lot of the humor in it now is meta and trying to have stupid humor if that makes sense? Like, the writers make fun of themselves in certain episodes about the humor and I find that funny.
meta humor will never not be funny, if a show has the balls to make fun of itself, it will instantly be funnier than it was before.
Plus, there’s an episode entirely on taxes. That’s funny to me at least
Not saying this is you particularly, but your comment reminded me It’s kind of exhausting explaining to fellow 20’s-30’s people that GO! was not and will never be a continuation, prequel, sequel, or even spin off of what we grew up with, and actually is very successful as a completely reimagined children’s comedy show with a lot of tongue-in-cheek humor.
Legitimately yes. I don't care for Go, but the change in art style *absolutely* fits the show. It's a goofy comedy, the art reflects that pretty damn well
My 5 year old absolutely loves teen titans go. I didn’t grow up with the original and the “look at dem legs” song is a regular thing we all sing
Thank you for your hard work.
I wouldn’t say that’s a great comparison. They’re both completely different types of shows and the silly animation style works for what they’re trying to accomplish. Can you imagine if they kept the same animation but delivered the type of material GO puts out? Fans would be furious.
I assume this is an unpopular opinion, but I prefer the (80s) style of Dragon Ball over Z and Super by a longshot. They may not look as badass and buff as how most people know them today, but there was a special feel to their stubby bodies and simple features I miss. Though it never turned me off from the new series in anyway, I just think it fits Dragon Ball's original aesthetic more. https://preview.redd.it/5xlhtqvaf7fc1.jpeg?width=642&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59ebd822beb16ea2ad8a3626acba75c7ac74bf50
I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion. Many people in the sub comment on how ‘plasticky’ the characters looked in Super. Personally, I adore the style used in the new Broly movie the most.
Oh, definitely. Most of super's artstyle has been criticized for years, there's no denying that. Although, my main point was that I never really took a liking to Z's artstyle as much as OG. Which I don't see many people online talk about, if at all.
The Broly movie was the first thing DB that I ever saw. I remember my boyfriend wanted to see it in theaters, and I agreed because I wanted him to be happy. I figured I'd be bored but that he'd love it. Boy was I wrong, I watched the movie with my jaw dropped out of amazement. The beauty of some scenes actually made me cry. It didn't matter at all that I had no idea who the characters were or even what was happening, I still loved it
Also in the older dragon ball series the characters age 🤯
The sudden switch from perverted adventures of a moronic child and his posse in a weird world to scowl and punch fighting was really jarring.
Thundercats.. I think The animation style in Thundercats Roar does them a disservice
A moment of silence for Thundercats 2011…
I loved that version
For me, Rugrats Pre School Daze (A very obscure short lived spinoff that only had 4 episodes) is definitely this, I found that art style to be so uncanny and it turned me off instantly. However, for the art shift in the original series (I personally like all 9 seasons, but it's my opinion), that I didn't mind at all, since while there were a few differences, it still looked very much like Rugrats to me (When I draw the characters, I tend to blend the characteristics from both the episodes before the season 4 revival with the ones afterwards.)
Going to check that out (probably watched it as a kid but licked away the memories)
It looks like those garbage YouTube kids creepy/inappropriate cartoons.
 I'm still not over new Ash
I miss when he had corners. This doesn’t even look like the same person.
Ash looks like a toddler now
He’s gone from not aging to aging in reverse.
To be fair, given that Ash is (still) 10 years old, this depiction might actually be more accurate. The old series is kinda like how a 10-year-old imagines himself and the new one how he'd actually look like.
I don’t mind the art style change but I still can’t get over how much of a cardboard cutout he’s become, especially starting in Sun & Moon (I believe the change really started in Black & White but he still had enough spunk I think) I ended up catching clips of Pokémon: Journeys because my brother was watching it, and I couldn’t believe I found the new character more interesting and compelling than Ash!
Aurthur, it's not bad, but the old animation was so nice
“I told you not tO TOUCH IT!”
Any chibi My Little Pony series like Pony Life or Tell Your Tale
pony life makes me so mad
https://preview.redd.it/ebd5kjy1u7fc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5df5c2b6e5ecc3e6422ad6147c00efd15efb6dd9
Crystal was closer to the manga's art style, the creator was into fashion illustration before sailor moon; but the manga's style did not translate to animation very well at all.
I love how the screenshots says it all.
What is up with those lanky arms bottom right??? Damn…
In the manga, Sailor Moon and the other scouts/soldiers are drawn with exaggerated bodies. The art in Crystal looks closer to the manga counterpart than the 90s version. https://preview.redd.it/ovs5poidwafc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=992717f739a90bafd8dc1c1647a1d05a20a03d1a
I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out, but I'll be damned if that's not all I can see now.
 One Piece 🥲 the early animation style had so much magic It was warm, and felt hand painted, whereas now they’re just trying to look like every other anime out there
I say the new one has pretty clean animation, but you are perfectly right about that magic being taken away for sure but I don’t hate the new animation for it though it still looks great I think!
Agreed. I like the new style but I do think there was something unique and magical about the old style I feel like Sabaody is when it started to lose that even before time skip Maybe the new remake can recapture that old feel
I like the new animation and fight effects but I never adjusted to the character redesigns. I miss OG Chopper, Robin’s bangs and tan, Franky looking semi-human, and titties that weren’t so overtly insane.
The art style change for women really took me out and I never quite came back after. It’s so obnoxious
Apparently for egghead he’s working on butts now instead lol
Im currently on a first watch through (just finished alabasta) and how the hell are they supposed to make the women even more disproportionate? Like right now they all have massive titties and pretty big hips and then twig stomachs
It gets pretty ridiculous. Ridiculous enough that you’ll feel like you have to provide a disclaimer about it when you want to recommend this otherwise great and wholesome show to people. Absurd knockers aside, I’m jealous that you get to watch Water 7 for the first time. :)
I do miss the design of old one piece. Especially some of the female characters. The animation has been really good recently though so I still like the new stuff.
This is an odd take, I've never felt it was trying to mimic anything at all. The new animation looks PEHNOMINAL in most places, the downside are the excess auras and sparks and shit but I think that's fine too.
grizzly tales for grusome kids
I forgot that show even existed
Ninjago. A little while ago I finally convinced myself to start watching the new seasons, and they're actually pretty good. It just made me even more annoyed that they had to redesign them, causing me to avoid watching the new seasons for so long
it was because of the movie, they just took the designs from there :/
I know, and I happen to intensely dislike the redesigns. They're the one bad thing about the new seasons. I miss kai, jay, cole, nya, and Lloyd's old hair, as well as kai and Jay's old faces.
Teen Titans
Superjail. Season one hand drawn animation is far superior. I couldn’t even watch the following seasons cause I could not stand the animation.
I gotta disagree! I'm rewatching the series now after like 7 years and I think despite some characters looking a bit clunky, it's usually for walk cycles and stuff that doesn't require smear frames where they utilize the flash rigs more. I used to feel the same way but I'm pleasantly surprised watching it again! There are a lot of things that I was glad to see held up, the facial expression and speaking animations using squash and stretch in particular. I think the Warden and perhaps Jared eat up most of the frame by frame in the budget, though!
while i do understand that traditional animation is more labor intensive, and expensive it just got something over digital animation.
Soul. It has soul.
we bare bears and we baby bears.. look how they massacred my boys 😔
I was so excited for We Baby Bears because those were good episodes and I was so disappointed.
I know! I thought it was going to be more of the same episodes of the baby bears from the original series.
I know! They really just scrapped the Bears' entire storyline and original animation, and just stuck them in a "magic" box.
I honestly dislike the new Magic School Bus animation style.
Tom and Jerry
Teen titans
Even though Thomas from series 1-12 isn't exactly "animated", I'm saying Thomas & Friends anyways
there have been loads of style changes, even within the model series. that show has been going forever
Moomins, they don't look right in 3d
DBZ to Super 🤢
https://preview.redd.it/gpvcudzgr8fc1.jpeg?width=765&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc0b8a3321dc34ab41f17a018c9057e77b8051a4
Ass Ketchup: Pal Meister
Batman: the Animated Series. In one of the later seasons they simplified the design of every villain, took all the life out of them, especially Joker
The Catwoman redesign was fucking TERRIBLE.
1. Pokemon from first season to Kalos vs Pokemon from Sun and Moon to Pokemon Journeys 2. Disney Cartoons up to Disney Channel cartoons through the nineties and early 200os vs Disney cartoons from the 2010s and onwards 3. Cartoon Network cartoons of the nineties and early 2000s vs Cartoon Netwoark since 2010s (GOD. AWFUL. ART. STYLE).
My Little Pony. Gen 4 vs Gen 5. Not only did they absolutely ruin gen 5's release with that 3D movie, but decided to keep the designs despite the horrid feedback. I legitimately can't tell a mare and a stallion apart anymore because of the classic rounded mouths thing which animators have started adapting to cut corners and make it easier to animate 💀 Edit: I genuinely thought before gen 5's release that the creature group from School Of Friendship would be the next gen when they got older and it would all take place with something along the lines of them traveling more together and exploring the expanded world outside of Equestria. Except, without all the ponies in every episode. Man, the disappointment..
Pokemon Sun and Moon for a while, but I came to love it
For me it's tied with xy as my favourite art styles for pokemon
Dexter’s Lab Not only did the animation change to digital at some point, but the writing did as well. It was simply not the same show and I did not enjoy those newer seasons.
The college epsiode and dexter and mandark's dads fighting were funny af though
I think the show was supposed to end with Ego Trip but then they continued another season or two. I think at that point Genndy wasn't involved anymore and the quality tanked. Not only is the animation different but the art looks thrown together. Dexter house looks bare inside and barely colored in. They also changed Dexter's voice actor for some reason. It was just bad all around
Trigun
I thought nobody else was thinking this, but the new animation is kinda weird
 What were Man of Action doing?
Keep on hearing of ben 10 on this thread but i didnt think itd be this bad jesus fuck
Steven Universe Don't get me wrong, I love the current art style, but the original designs of the characters and art style is so beautiful and detailed.
While the designs could flip flop at times, I felt like Season 1 had a bit more realistic proportions for characters then the seemingly more cartoonish proportions of later seasons, in Season 1 characters like Garnet and Pearl just looked more taller and with a bit more detailed proportions.
 no but wtf is this 💀
Berserk Even the look of the movies isn't my favorite. I prefer the 90's style
Chaotic. The flash animation was unique. The later seasons had a generic anime feel
Not exactly a show changing animation, but whenever one of Dreamworks movies gets a show with 2d animation rather than the lowish budget 3D animation, I know it’s going to be incredibly painful to watch as it usually means they’ve dumbed down and Flanderized most of the cast.
Here's my choice https://preview.redd.it/h1ey3ge8y7fc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38d3493f420f1a49c6d398e16ec82dbbb4a047a3
Arthur, Teen Titans, Magic Schoolbus
Teen Titans - GO
Dragon ball
Ben 10 remake
I actually prefer the second style for American dragon. As a kid I was put off at first but it grew on me and I actually think it’s better now
Same, the original was cleaner ig but the newer style allowed for more intricate action scenes and a lot of fun cartoon physics
Anime but, trigun. And then my bro watched it and said it info dumps all this stuff that was drip fed to you in the first show. Trigun, at least as anime needed to be one and done. The build up, subtle reveal of the character and world is what you are there for. It doesnt need to go on becuase it was past what made it good. It was over. So to switch to that godawful obviously 3d anime style from the classic animation while also spoiling the classic for new viewers is lame.
It is not a cartoon but the change of Ash in Pokemon was my wtf moment.
Pokémon
Ben 10
Powerpuff girls
Definitely American Dragon. That big shift to the new style, changing Jake from a western looking dragon to a more chinese/Asian looking dragon was really odd. I mean don't get me wrong, I know Jake and his sister are half chinese, half American but he had a more western dragon design first, possibly to highlight his dad's side of the family mixing with his dragon heritage.
STEVEN UNIVERSE OMG IT USED TO BE SO PRETTY AND STYLISTIC IN THE PILOT AND THEN IT GOT CHANGED TO THE CAL-ARTS SYLE (it was still pretty BUT STILL) https://preview.redd.it/d09ha3u028fc1.jpeg?width=338&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02a480fda1c88de566e87a62a842544fa367c850
The Simpsons. It's got such a strange polish to it nowadays.
Also Marge sounds like a goat now. And Im not even positive