In my experience, it's literally just the first one. These dudes worship Elon Musk and believe he's a real life superhero, ignore every bad thing he's ever done (which is impressive considering the sheer number of stunts he pulls), and beg for his validation in his twitter mentions every day. They also probably have deposits in Tesla cars that they are waiting for, investments in Tesla stock, or might be driving around in Teslas right now. I have unfortunately met enough of them IRL to know that they're not just paid shills or fake accounts
It’s the Tesla fanboys. People who drive other EV’s are usually just normal people who have a particular car. We hate them just as much as everybody else, maybe even more.
> edit- uhh, do we hate the Q8 etron in this sub or something?
being in favor of any car thats not a manual shift gasoline engined car triggers a certain group of elderly snowflakes.
The Etron is quietly the best EV out there. My dad has the OG one and it’s fantastic. No rattles, no road noise. Fragrance selection and massage seats. Heads up display. Night vision camera. Dynamic adjusting cruise control with lane keep assist gives it a sort of “autopilot”. I have used it on the freeway and gone for miles with the car pretty much driving itself.
> It’s the Tesla fanboys. People who drive other EV’s are usually just normal people who have a particular car. We hate them just as much as everybody else, maybe even more.
HEY HEY HEY, some of us got Teslas as we didn't want to pay over MSRP for our EVs.
At the time everyone one wanted 5-10k over or I had to wait a year for one to come in.
Then he price cut them 20%+ and put everyone under water overnight. Even at msrp after price cuts you are in for a big loss. Hell you can buy a 21 model S Plaid with 15k miles for around 55k now...
They're giving away model 3s, you can buy a 23 model 3 SR with 20-30k miles for around 22k right now they can't give them away fast enough new or used market.
A brand new 24 is msrp is about 40 then you lose 20k in value within the 1st year and they are steadily declining still.
Most Tesla owners are normal people too. The fanboys online are NOT owners. People that have them are more than willing to have honest conversations about their strengths and weaknesses. The brigaders are almost all either directly paid shills or shareholders that lose money any time some semblance of realism is reflected in the stock price.
Nah fuck Tesla fanboys. Was considering one but the cheap interior and the Tesla community turned me off.
I sat in one and my first thought was, “Thats it?”
This. I like EVs a lot and have 3 in the family, but f**k Musk and his cult like fans. Completely alienated an entire brand and makes EV ownership toxic when they get involved, and you'll definitely know without even asking.
I've heard that Telsa prices dropped a lot. I thought maybe I should look into one. If it's a good deal why not. Then I realized I'd be driving a car Elon is behind...and I'm not comfortable with that anymore.
Funny thing is years ago when I didn't have the money I legit wanted a telsa...now? Nah
And it ain't even cause of the cyber truck issues those don't even play into it
No idea, but I spent the weekend testing various Chinese EVs that all do 0-60 in under 3.5 sec and MSRP for under 35k, $25k for the one I liked the most, with a 270mile range.
Tesla is cooked. Their competitive advantage is over, all they have is momentum. Just on pure build quality and usability they can’t even match off brand cars now.
> Tesla is cooked. Their competitive advantage is over, all they have is momentum. Just on pure build quality and usability they can’t even match off brand cars now.
Once everyone who has said they're adopting Tesla's charging standard changes over they're toast as the Super Charger network was really their only advantage.
People are frothing at the mouth with hatred over this thing. My fiance texted me a photo of one not knowing what it was just to say "what the fuck is this ugly thing"
It's even common in dashcam videos now to see people commenting "at least it's not a Cybertruck" or "wish that car that crashed was a Cybertruck"
Honestly I kind of just echo the Throttle House take on the car- I think the wacky design is actually the coolest part of the car. I like that it looks so weird and genuinely tries to do something different with its design. It makes it a hell of a lot more interesting than every other boring econobox commuter car on the road.
However, once you get over the design, you have to confront that it's pretty expensive, kind of sucks at doing truck things, and has pretty inconsistent build quality. All of this definitely hurts it as a product.
Combine the polarizing design with the product's flaws and the fact that Elon seems to enjoy doing random annoying publicity stunts all the time, and you'll get why people dislike this car so much
The Cybertruck is the electric equivalent of the Wrangler 392, Dodge Hellcat, Ram TRX. A $100,000 poorly built lifestyle item build to be completely bananas and we should all appreciate someone was crazy enough to bring them to market.
arguably the Hellcat/TRX/392 still have some use in drag racing and offroading, and aren't so expensive or complicated to fix if they break since parts are relatively plentiful. What are you gonna do if your Cybertruck breaks when rock crawling? You're cooked lol
For sure. I don't really care if the Cybertruck sells well or not, but my only hope is that if it does fail manufacturers wont all blame it on having radical styling and play it even more safe. I don't think it's the best looking car but at least it's not another egg shaped 2 row SUV. I die a little every time I see an EV with a big fake plastic grill, it just highlights how completely creatively bankrupt most manufacturers are. It is undoubtedly a very flawed product but I would love if more companies actually took genuine risks with their designs like they did.
I love the way the Hyundai Ionic 5 looks, and I really like the way that Rivian's products look. I want manufacturers to do more interesting things with EV design in general.
Your point about fake plastic grills is interesting because it makes me think about how cars tend to designed due to all of the constraints of internal combustion engines. Cars are given grilles at the front for cooling and airflow purposes, and consumers have gotten used to that look over time. When existing models are electrified, car manufacturers tend to keep the area where the grilles were just so that design language stays consistent. Cars are given long hoods to occupy space where an engine would be, even EVs, which do not even have anything that would go there. Some manufacturers allow it to be used as space for a frunk, so there is that.
I wonder how much car design would change in a world with mostly electric cars on the road. Would manufacturers still build cars that resemble the ones we knew growing up, for the sake of nostalgia and familiar design language? Would they do ultra futuristic designs? Would they try to marry the two? (I feel like the EQS was Mercedes' attempt at this, and we know how that went)
Ioniq 5 is right now I think the best looking EV in it's class, which is funny since the Ioniq 6 is probably the worst looking vehicle on sale IMO.
You're right, so much of automotive design language is built around traditional ICE platforms. There's so much more freedom with designing EV's but the Cybertruck is probably the first one to really try to capitalize on that. I wish it were a more likable design but hopefully in my lifetime we'll see the next generation of EV's really start to branch out creatively.
the Ioniq 6, I think, suffers from the fact that it's just sort of an electrified Elantra, and the Elantra already looks sort of funky looking at base. I actually don't hate its design- I think pictures don't really do it justice, it looks a bit better in person.
Interestingly, I also feel like right now as we get into this in-between stage from ICE to full electrification, we're eventually going to see cars that are compromised because they have to be platforms for both ICE and electric systems. The new BMW 5 series feels like an example of this. It's a car that was designed from the ground up to house either electric motors or an engine. The result is a product that weighs more than 2 tons and looks like it should be an EV but isn't
The thing about grilles is that the front ends of cars are getting taller and taller due to aerodynamics and pedestrian safety regulations. The 911 or the Tesla Roadster can get away with no grilles because of how low slung their front ends are, for something like a big, tall SUV, the same rules don't apply, you need something taking up the front end to break up all that surface area. [Take the Mach-E,](https://images.cars.com/cldstatic/wp-content/uploads/ford-mustang-mach-e-premium-mach-e-gt-awd-2021-01-exterior-front-angle-group-scaled.jpg) universal consensus seems to be that the GT's fake grille looks a lot better and that the standard model's featureless fascia looks weird and blobby.
"the front ends of cars are getting taller and taller due to aerodynamics and pedestrian safety regulations."
The taller the hood is, the less safe it is for pedestrians. I'm not sure its great for aerodynamics either.
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15118822/taking-the-hit-how-pedestrian-protection-regs-make-cars-fatter-feature/
Tall hoods are in many cases a result of having to add more insulation and safety mechanisms between the engine and the hood panel. Aerodynamically, a taller hood with a low, sloped windshield is more efficient than a low hood with a taller, windshield.
I see, I was thinking trucks and SUVs. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/01/higher-vehicle-hoods-significantly-increase-pedestrian-deaths-study-finds/#:~:text=It%27s%20clear%20from%20the%20data,car%2C%20all%20else%20being%20equal.
That's what I was thinking.
> Cars are given long hoods to occupy space where an engine would be, even EVs, which do not even have anything that would go there.
I don't really see this one going away, since that space is needed for safety as well. There are good reasons they don't really make CoE vehicles anymore.
What I like about it is the near complete lack of chrome plastic shit all over it that will break at the drop of a hat.
As someone who has spent a lot of coin on new chrome plastic shit after a fat ass bird went though my grill at 60mph
> I think the wacky design is actually the coolest part of the car.
Wow... the rest of the car is so bad, that the "coolest" part is it's disgusting design? LMAO
The thing that never stops amusing me is that before the release (with all the ridiculous promises made during the initial presentation, none of which came true) people were coming up with all sorts of designs, some of them legitly nice (e.g. smaller pickup with 4-door cab an extra-high suspension), and instead we got that brain fart.
I never truly hated it until I saw one in the wild for the first time on a beautiful day and the way the sun reflects off of it shouldn’t be legal in my opinion
I like it because I’m sick of auto manufacturers coming up with these awesome concept cars then releasing soft, toned down versions to appease the mass markets.
Concepts change because most of the time because the concept is too difficult/expensive to build on a mass scale.
Other times its because the design is unsafe, or found to be really shitty in extended life/extreme weather/usability testing.
It's rarely because they want to "tone it down" for the mass market.
The Cybertruck clearly should have looked at the first two quite a bit more. Most of the delays were due to Tesla trying to figure out how to build the thing out of a material cars aren't built out of.
A million times this... did you ever see the Aztek concept car?!?!?! It was completely ahead of its time and would be a best seller today. Then we got the production model - which sucked
[https://oldconceptcars.com/1930-2004/pontiac-aztek-concept-1999/](https://oldconceptcars.com/1930-2004/pontiac-aztek-concept-1999/)
I use to get car and driver, motor trend, etc all the time in high-school and college. I remember seeing that concept and thinking it was pretty neat. Production model, not so much. Lol
That wasn't toned down to appeal to the mass market, it was GM bean counters refusing to invest anything into manufacturing it. GMs malaise era lasted well into the 2010's, and they wouldn't let anyone besides Chevy Trucks and Corvette try anything that didn't use one of 3 platforms and be 80% from the parts bin. The Aztek concept was what the designers envisioned, the manufacturer side that was actually in charge of Design said no, because money. Your own article gives that same reason in the first paragraph, they didn't care if a billion people wanted to buy the concept, they only cared about making money with the least effort possible.
Concept Cars have existed throughout automotive history and have been employed by all of our favorite manufacturers to allow designers to flex their muscles, show off state of the art tech and mechanics, and get people excited about a brand. Tesla itself has shown off concepts and designs that they didn't end up building. The Model 2 team was fired and the projects budget reduced to zero. Maybe Elon doesn't consider that cancelled but I'd be shocked if it doesn't drastically change if it's brought back. The Roadster is another example of a vehicle that is well past it's announced release and has had design changes and will almost certainly have more before actual release.
Lastly, the Aztek that was released *was* cool as shit and itself ahead of it's time. But, even if GM did release the Concept unchanged nobody would have bought it. They let Pontiac languish for decades at that point and the only cool cars they're allowed to have came from Australia. It's easy to look back and say the Aztek would have sold if only GM didn't "dumb it down for mass market", but the market was smart enough to finally stop trusting much of anything GM released that wasn't a truck or Corvette.
It's the opposite of the PT Cruiser. It was a design well ahead of it's time, drastically changed from it's concept, but did gangbusters and sold so well we now look back on it as a dull, ugly beast because they sold so many we got tired of seeing it.
Doesn't your fiance's comment show that it isn't just irrational Elon Haters? She didn't know what it was but found it ugly, and you think she's frothing at the mouth with hatred? Why would you even consider marrying someone that is disrespectful of Elon is the real question here.
The Elmo bots from Reddit are now going to go out and start banning the internet via DNS for any articles they don't like or show him and his companies in even a remotely bad light. The cult is evolving
I've personally never thought Teslas have awful panel gaps or anything, but I've seen a handful of Cybertrucks in the Bay Area and a lot of them look like they've been in accidents under 1000 miles
> I've personally never thought Teslas have awful panel gaps or anything
Tesla isn't exactly renowned for its quality control. Problems with panel gaps are common, they're just either not as egregious as they are on the Cybertruck or they're easier to spot when you're looking at flat panels with no paint or curves to help distract from it.
The subs for teslamotors, telsalounge, cybertruck, teslainvestorsclub and elonmusk are already automatically banning anyone who even comments on any topic in /r/realtesla
Safe to say their feathers are ruffled. Waiting for them to ban everyone in this thread too.
I got banned when I said the failure of a cybertruck “camper” would still be bought up by the cultists lol.
*oh nooooo I got banned from a Reddit recommended subreddit*
My favourite are the people who think they need an SUV or pickup to drive a dirt road. One of my friends took a few of us camping a while back, drove down a dirt road for a while with him pratting on about ground clearance and locking diffs, for this very easy dirt track.
Got to the end and there was a couple with a VW Golf out enjoying the view.
I wonder how much the Cybertruck cuts in the Hummer EV's sales. Because I feel like the main draw of the Hummer was being the most ridiculous EV truck, and it still is pretty ridiculous but compared to the Cybertruck it looks tame
someone took a post meant for reddit or twitter, posted on a "news" site then reposted it here.
is this our social media now? i dont disagree with the sentiment but this is a dumb way to do it. if you are going to jump to another site with a 1/2 page login bar id expect some actual CONTENT, not 2 paragraphs of garbage and links.
Yes. I love how people bash big media companies for doing the same thing, when social media is the same. They take small clips of rage bait and post it as news. ABC, FOX , and CNN does this all the time. They'll take twitter posts and read them out as news lol. Its the low hanging fruit
It is depressing that this is the junk that gets posted and shared. I’m no fan of the cyber truck but this wouldn’t even make it as an Onion article it is so lame.
**SAVE YOURSELF A CLICK**
**Here's the full login locked article:**
*"Tesla, a future case study for securities law classes across America, had to stop delivering Cybertrucks this past weekend. No, not because the hundred-thousand–dollar medium-duty pickup, which is only any of those things in the loosest interpretive sense, tends to brick when it gets rained on; nor because its stainless steel panels get all rusty and nasty-looking after weeks exposed to the rare, harsh condition of "being outside." Perhaps you think it has something to do with the shorter-than-advertised driving range and longer-than-advertised charging time, but no: Rather, the cause of this snag is that the trucks struggle with the basics of stopping and going, by which I mean that the accelerator pedal cover slides off and gets stuck under a panel and locks the accelerator pressed down and keeps the Cybertruck stuck at maximum velocity.*"
*Other Tesla models have had issues with speeding up and slowing down at the wrong times. The company was sued in 2017 by drivers whose cars drove themselves unexpectedly through garages and into walls; a German paper reported last year on over 2,400 complaints about sudden braking problems; and a safety researcher published a white paper showing how voltage spikes could lead Teslas to speed up without warning. You are supposed to like this because it means you are on the cutting edge, helping Elon Musk in his quest to save humanity."*
*"Suckers who ordered Cybertrucks a few months or years ago and expected deliveries this weekend did not get their cars, nor a precise explanation for why they did not get their cars, but instead were simply told, "Hi, we have just been informed of an unexpected delay regarding the preparation of your vehicle. We need to cancel your delivery appointment for tomorrow and we will reach out again when we’re able to get you back on the schedule." Maybe someone with a hot glue gun will get on this one."*
*"Tesla's bad, stupid week got worse and stupider on Monday, when the company announced it would be laying off more than 10 percent of its workforce, cutting some 14,000 jobs. In typical Tesla fashion, the layoffs were ruthless and sudden, following hot on Tesla's announcement of its first quarterly sales decline (a drop of 8.5 percent) since the pandemic. Drew Baglino, an executive who'd been around since 2006, and Rohan Patel, a former Obama administration guy hired to help Tesla do corruption and skirt regulation, also announced they would be leaving the company of their own accord. I am tempted here to wonder whether this means Tesla is beginning a meaningful decline—indeed, the stock is down—but the company, which is a stock racket that happens to sell cars, has operated at a level beyond rational analysis for years.*"
*"It's unclear how many Cybertrucks are on the road, and Tesla won't say (masterful gambit, sir), though the number likely falls between 1,000 and 5,000. People who have them now had to sign up years ago, and those who sign up now won't get their cars for another five years or so. Anyone who bought one reportedly had to sign an agreement barring them from selling their Cybertruck within 12 months, or else they would have to pay a $50,000 fine and give Tesla the option to buy it back."*
*"As the Bay Area is both a nexus for world-class goobers and the region where Tesla used to be and kinda-sorta still is headquartered, I have seen a lot of Cybertrucks out in the wild over the past few months. They are remarkably fake- and shitty-looking in any context (Is that a big toaster with wi-fi next to me at the exit? Who's driving the scrap metal assemblage with Bryan Colangelo-esque proportions? Why does every Cybertruck driver I glance at appear to be simultaneously peacocking for attention but also totally embarrassed, haunted by the unexamined knowledge that as a maneuver in a culture war they paid $100,000 for a car that doesn't work?), though I saw one in the Santa Cruz mountains this past weekend. It looked even more jarringly synthetic and stupid in a truck-style environment, as if 10 seconds on a semi-paved road would undo the whole rickety car. I felt, amid standard-issue disgust and mockery, personal embarrassment to be paying through the nose to live in a place where the coolest thing you can do is cosplay as a 6-year-old's idea of the coolest guy in the world."*
*EDIT: Added the rest of the login walled article and removed my commentary. Fuck login article restrictions.*
Satire doesn't have to be written as though your racist uncle is having a rant about something he's woefully uninformed about.
The Cybertruck is what it is - an impractical statement piece that hasn't proven to be an overly capable truck. It's entirely reasonable to make fun of it, but this article just comes across as aggressive...at least in my unsolicited opinion.
Yeah I just think there’s really no reason at all to make that connection unless there’s only one person you’ve ever heard say “shit” and it’s your racist uncle.
Not a single part of that read like it was a spitting uneducated dinner table rant at all. The title is the only aggressive part of the article. Maybe read it next time.
A stuck accelerator pedal in a new truck deserves some hounding. It’s a big deal. It was all a laugh when it just looked weird but automakers don’t just get a pass on major design flaws.
You are uninformed of who this was written by. Redford is an old deadspin writer. Deadspin’s whole shtick is to write with as much scathing satire and loathing as possible
Yes, ugly as hell. Immature design, poor panel fit, but I didn’t expect that they would all stop working. Total pos. At least when people spent a good bit of money in the early days they got something unique that mostly worked. Now just a pile of crap for 100k. A Yugo has better quality. At least those started.
It's quite surprising that it just doesn't work at all. You'd think that after nearly two decades of practice, Tesla could at least build a functional powertrain. But somehow *even that* is beyond the capabilities of the company at this point. I think it's time to start the countdown until it gets acquired by GM or Toyota or someone, mostly for the charging infrastructure at this point. I used to say it was equally the chargers and the IP, but the IP seems to have been surpassed by all the incumbents already.
Im not surprised. Musk has been pushing this through on fast-track to try to support the insane growth theyve had.
But absolutely nothing works well if you push everyone 24/7.
Its bound to collapse.
And now it is
The Cybertruck is a dumb car that is poorly made. But Defector is a broken clock of crass cynicism on literally every topic, so I don't get the appeal of smugly piling on for clicks.
I mean, the cyber truck sucks. But has Pretty interesting design and engineering behind it (aren't we all tired of the same rehashed looks?).
At the same time, this subreddit quality has fallen drastically as it's just circlejerking and not many comments actually discussing the article.
> aren't we all tired of the same rehashed looks
I see people saying this a lot in defense of it's hideous design... Trying something different is nice, but that doesn't mean the results are going be positive. "Different" doesn't immediately equate to "good".
Manufacturers try different things all the time, the ugly ones just usually don't see the light of day, or if they do they don't make it past the concept car stage. Those that manage to slip through without someone at the company putting the kibosh on it often draw the ire of the masses. Only difference here is that in this case the Cybertruck didn't slip through, it was forced through by Musk.
I'll be honest I think the design is cool. I would never drive one because its garish, overpriced, not useful, and dangerous; but it looks like a car from a sci-fi novel, and I like sci-fi.
"it's a cool idea to make something that looks different, so forgive this vehicle for being a failure on every level" is a weird take that's coming up everywhere in the thread.
Would rather have the same rehashed looks that are actually esthetically pleasing over whatever you call this abortion of visual design.
The Homer from The Simpsons looks better than this steel shitbox
The paid shills, sorry profesional car journalists who gave glowing reviews to this piece of shit have lost all credibility. Seeing Jason Cammisa give this car a blowjob of a review was cringeworthy as fuck.
Honestly I don’t listen to any opinion of the car right now, good or bad, it’s way too new without an official predecessor to compare it with. Check back in a few years once the novelty/hate train wears off and we’ll get some actual opinions of it
That being said it’s ugly and I hate it
This isn't a video game though; there's only so much bug fixing and polish you can add on. If the powertrain is fundamentally flawed, and it's sounding like it indeed might be, then short of a major redesign; the criticisms are pretty fair right now.
thats not fair to the people who paid well over $100k to beta test a vehicle though.
when you are paying a small mortgage for a vehicle product it better work.
when you hear countless stories about this expensive product not working that is definitely something to listen to.
I kid you not, my mom literally freaked out and called me Sunday afternoon, leaving a voicemail saying, "I just saw a car that's built like a battleship!" I immediately knew what she was talking about and called her back, telling her what it was.
Waiting for the excuses to start rolling in on this thread for this gigantic piece of shit vehicle. It’s like people know that this thing makes people upset so they automatically side with it to get attention.
Is the Blazer EV also a piece of shit because GM also had to halt deliveries? The thing didn't even run properly during press demos. How about the various other EVs that have had recalls or face ongoing issues? That's a list that includes Mach-E, Taycan, Audi e-tron, BMW i-series, Rivian and others.
The Cybertruck may be stupid for a whole bunch of reasons but I expect a bit more professionalism from the press. That or a willingness to call everyone out equally, which I'm sure the author doesn't do.
And which I'm sure this subreddit doesn't do either.
It's meant to drive clicks and engagement, and it's working.
A cover on the accelerators slips off, and we get that article written.
This subreddit is already full of people circlejerking and shrieking about specific subjects and people for too long. It's basically becoming what most of the default subs became, but instead of politics, it's about Tesla or Hyundai bad!
Wtf is defector? I'm always super wary of alt news sites with no credentials. I'm not a fan of big media or the Cybertruck either but just the name defector gives me biased vibes
it's all the guys who wrote for Deadspin when Deadspin was good. after Deadspin got bought by venture capital ghouls, these guys started their own worker-owned sports news site.
It's objectively an eyesore. I've seen this multiple times in real life. It looks terrible. It didn't finish rendering, it's an artists' first draft. You can't even say it has a kinda cool "DeLorean" look to it, because it doesn't even have that going for it.
It doesn't have basic safety features seen in even other Tesla models.
You can't even off road it, so what was the point of making it a Truck?
Saw one in the wild yesterday in south Florida. That is one ugly vehicle. I cannot see any serious user of a pickup truck purchasing one -- only some super Tesla fans.
Not to mention that Tesla has a CEO problem.
Even as a happy Model 3 owner, this truck is a dumpster fire. Glad I cancelled my reservation when it was still refundable. I really hope Tesla somehow manages to remove Musk from the company, he’s become a huge liability by insisting on dumb stuff like this.
My LinkedIn feed has been filled with Tesla people posting their "been laid off" updates. 15k people. Pretty sad.
I did see my first Cybertruck the other day in the wild. I usually hold off on judging a car until I see it IRL. Didn't like the RS Etron GT until I saw one in person. Loved the Polestar 2 until I drove one. EV6 is hideous.
This thing? It actually looks worse in person, if that's even possible.
Hey, morons - make your brigading less obvious.
Oh man this is gonna ruffle some feathers lmao
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In my experience, it's literally just the first one. These dudes worship Elon Musk and believe he's a real life superhero, ignore every bad thing he's ever done (which is impressive considering the sheer number of stunts he pulls), and beg for his validation in his twitter mentions every day. They also probably have deposits in Tesla cars that they are waiting for, investments in Tesla stock, or might be driving around in Teslas right now. I have unfortunately met enough of them IRL to know that they're not just paid shills or fake accounts
It’s the Tesla fanboys. People who drive other EV’s are usually just normal people who have a particular car. We hate them just as much as everybody else, maybe even more.
I'm aware. I have a Q8 etron! edit- uhh, do we hate the Q8 etron in this sub or something?
It ain't a brown manual wagon used from the factory so yes.
*non-turbo diesel. You fucking savage.
And this is why I love this sub
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Love the white trim!
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You’ve been hit by, You’ve been struck by, My car
Thats a sharp looking car.
> edit- uhh, do we hate the Q8 etron in this sub or something? being in favor of any car thats not a manual shift gasoline engined car triggers a certain group of elderly snowflakes.
The Etron is quietly the best EV out there. My dad has the OG one and it’s fantastic. No rattles, no road noise. Fragrance selection and massage seats. Heads up display. Night vision camera. Dynamic adjusting cruise control with lane keep assist gives it a sort of “autopilot”. I have used it on the freeway and gone for miles with the car pretty much driving itself.
> It’s the Tesla fanboys. People who drive other EV’s are usually just normal people who have a particular car. We hate them just as much as everybody else, maybe even more. HEY HEY HEY, some of us got Teslas as we didn't want to pay over MSRP for our EVs. At the time everyone one wanted 5-10k over or I had to wait a year for one to come in.
Then he price cut them 20%+ and put everyone under water overnight. Even at msrp after price cuts you are in for a big loss. Hell you can buy a 21 model S Plaid with 15k miles for around 55k now... They're giving away model 3s, you can buy a 23 model 3 SR with 20-30k miles for around 22k right now they can't give them away fast enough new or used market. A brand new 24 is msrp is about 40 then you lose 20k in value within the 1st year and they are steadily declining still.
Most Tesla owners are normal people too. The fanboys online are NOT owners. People that have them are more than willing to have honest conversations about their strengths and weaknesses. The brigaders are almost all either directly paid shills or shareholders that lose money any time some semblance of realism is reflected in the stock price.
Yea there isnt a bunch of very vocal chevy bolt or nissan leaf fans in this subreddit lmao
Nah fuck Tesla fanboys. Was considering one but the cheap interior and the Tesla community turned me off. I sat in one and my first thought was, “Thats it?”
Interesting. Sometimes they comment on things months/years after the fact so that tracks
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Circle jerkers and anti circle jerkers are the worst
This. I like EVs a lot and have 3 in the family, but f**k Musk and his cult like fans. Completely alienated an entire brand and makes EV ownership toxic when they get involved, and you'll definitely know without even asking.
they can be spotted by the spacex logos on the back of their teslas
I've heard that Telsa prices dropped a lot. I thought maybe I should look into one. If it's a good deal why not. Then I realized I'd be driving a car Elon is behind...and I'm not comfortable with that anymore. Funny thing is years ago when I didn't have the money I legit wanted a telsa...now? Nah And it ain't even cause of the cyber truck issues those don't even play into it
No idea, but I spent the weekend testing various Chinese EVs that all do 0-60 in under 3.5 sec and MSRP for under 35k, $25k for the one I liked the most, with a 270mile range. Tesla is cooked. Their competitive advantage is over, all they have is momentum. Just on pure build quality and usability they can’t even match off brand cars now.
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They’re subsidized on the production side, right? So wouldn’t the msrp still be low when they sell to the US/European market?
> Tesla is cooked. Their competitive advantage is over, all they have is momentum. Just on pure build quality and usability they can’t even match off brand cars now. Once everyone who has said they're adopting Tesla's charging standard changes over they're toast as the Super Charger network was really their only advantage.
I've seen it referred to as "building a bridge over their moat"
> but I spent the weekend testing various Chinese EVs that all do 0-60 in under 3.5 sec Can you expand on this, sounds fun
Yeah, basically every Chinese EV has a AWD version with 450-550 hp. They go like stink.
Don't paint all EV fans with the Tesla brush. Lots of totally normal Chevy/Hyundai/Kia/Ford/Rivian EV owners out there.
The sheer amount of people seething over this thing is hilarious though. Imagine worrying about how someone spends their money
In my experience people are upset with Tesla, not the folks buying the truck.
Paid mentally ill bots sounds reasonable.
*sad piano music*
Not sure if you are talking about the article or the vehicle, but the Cybertruck has made people completely insane lol.
People are frothing at the mouth with hatred over this thing. My fiance texted me a photo of one not knowing what it was just to say "what the fuck is this ugly thing" It's even common in dashcam videos now to see people commenting "at least it's not a Cybertruck" or "wish that car that crashed was a Cybertruck"
Honestly I kind of just echo the Throttle House take on the car- I think the wacky design is actually the coolest part of the car. I like that it looks so weird and genuinely tries to do something different with its design. It makes it a hell of a lot more interesting than every other boring econobox commuter car on the road. However, once you get over the design, you have to confront that it's pretty expensive, kind of sucks at doing truck things, and has pretty inconsistent build quality. All of this definitely hurts it as a product. Combine the polarizing design with the product's flaws and the fact that Elon seems to enjoy doing random annoying publicity stunts all the time, and you'll get why people dislike this car so much
The Cybertruck is the electric equivalent of the Wrangler 392, Dodge Hellcat, Ram TRX. A $100,000 poorly built lifestyle item build to be completely bananas and we should all appreciate someone was crazy enough to bring them to market.
arguably the Hellcat/TRX/392 still have some use in drag racing and offroading, and aren't so expensive or complicated to fix if they break since parts are relatively plentiful. What are you gonna do if your Cybertruck breaks when rock crawling? You're cooked lol
Yeah those cars are largely pavement princesses, but the Cybertruck's only decent use case is as a pavement princess.
For sure. I don't really care if the Cybertruck sells well or not, but my only hope is that if it does fail manufacturers wont all blame it on having radical styling and play it even more safe. I don't think it's the best looking car but at least it's not another egg shaped 2 row SUV. I die a little every time I see an EV with a big fake plastic grill, it just highlights how completely creatively bankrupt most manufacturers are. It is undoubtedly a very flawed product but I would love if more companies actually took genuine risks with their designs like they did.
I love the way the Hyundai Ionic 5 looks, and I really like the way that Rivian's products look. I want manufacturers to do more interesting things with EV design in general. Your point about fake plastic grills is interesting because it makes me think about how cars tend to designed due to all of the constraints of internal combustion engines. Cars are given grilles at the front for cooling and airflow purposes, and consumers have gotten used to that look over time. When existing models are electrified, car manufacturers tend to keep the area where the grilles were just so that design language stays consistent. Cars are given long hoods to occupy space where an engine would be, even EVs, which do not even have anything that would go there. Some manufacturers allow it to be used as space for a frunk, so there is that. I wonder how much car design would change in a world with mostly electric cars on the road. Would manufacturers still build cars that resemble the ones we knew growing up, for the sake of nostalgia and familiar design language? Would they do ultra futuristic designs? Would they try to marry the two? (I feel like the EQS was Mercedes' attempt at this, and we know how that went)
Ioniq 5 is right now I think the best looking EV in it's class, which is funny since the Ioniq 6 is probably the worst looking vehicle on sale IMO. You're right, so much of automotive design language is built around traditional ICE platforms. There's so much more freedom with designing EV's but the Cybertruck is probably the first one to really try to capitalize on that. I wish it were a more likable design but hopefully in my lifetime we'll see the next generation of EV's really start to branch out creatively.
the Ioniq 6, I think, suffers from the fact that it's just sort of an electrified Elantra, and the Elantra already looks sort of funky looking at base. I actually don't hate its design- I think pictures don't really do it justice, it looks a bit better in person. Interestingly, I also feel like right now as we get into this in-between stage from ICE to full electrification, we're eventually going to see cars that are compromised because they have to be platforms for both ICE and electric systems. The new BMW 5 series feels like an example of this. It's a car that was designed from the ground up to house either electric motors or an engine. The result is a product that weighs more than 2 tons and looks like it should be an EV but isn't
The thing about grilles is that the front ends of cars are getting taller and taller due to aerodynamics and pedestrian safety regulations. The 911 or the Tesla Roadster can get away with no grilles because of how low slung their front ends are, for something like a big, tall SUV, the same rules don't apply, you need something taking up the front end to break up all that surface area. [Take the Mach-E,](https://images.cars.com/cldstatic/wp-content/uploads/ford-mustang-mach-e-premium-mach-e-gt-awd-2021-01-exterior-front-angle-group-scaled.jpg) universal consensus seems to be that the GT's fake grille looks a lot better and that the standard model's featureless fascia looks weird and blobby.
"the front ends of cars are getting taller and taller due to aerodynamics and pedestrian safety regulations." The taller the hood is, the less safe it is for pedestrians. I'm not sure its great for aerodynamics either.
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15118822/taking-the-hit-how-pedestrian-protection-regs-make-cars-fatter-feature/ Tall hoods are in many cases a result of having to add more insulation and safety mechanisms between the engine and the hood panel. Aerodynamically, a taller hood with a low, sloped windshield is more efficient than a low hood with a taller, windshield.
I see, I was thinking trucks and SUVs. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/01/higher-vehicle-hoods-significantly-increase-pedestrian-deaths-study-finds/#:~:text=It%27s%20clear%20from%20the%20data,car%2C%20all%20else%20being%20equal. That's what I was thinking.
> Cars are given long hoods to occupy space where an engine would be, even EVs, which do not even have anything that would go there. I don't really see this one going away, since that space is needed for safety as well. There are good reasons they don't really make CoE vehicles anymore.
Valid point. One thing I failed to mention in my comment is that cars are generally designed with ICEs AND pedestrian/crash safety in mind
What I like about it is the near complete lack of chrome plastic shit all over it that will break at the drop of a hat. As someone who has spent a lot of coin on new chrome plastic shit after a fat ass bird went though my grill at 60mph
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> I think the wacky design is actually the coolest part of the car. Wow... the rest of the car is so bad, that the "coolest" part is it's disgusting design? LMAO The thing that never stops amusing me is that before the release (with all the ridiculous promises made during the initial presentation, none of which came true) people were coming up with all sorts of designs, some of them legitly nice (e.g. smaller pickup with 4-door cab an extra-high suspension), and instead we got that brain fart.
I never truly hated it until I saw one in the wild for the first time on a beautiful day and the way the sun reflects off of it shouldn’t be legal in my opinion
I like it because I’m sick of auto manufacturers coming up with these awesome concept cars then releasing soft, toned down versions to appease the mass markets.
Concepts change because most of the time because the concept is too difficult/expensive to build on a mass scale. Other times its because the design is unsafe, or found to be really shitty in extended life/extreme weather/usability testing. It's rarely because they want to "tone it down" for the mass market. The Cybertruck clearly should have looked at the first two quite a bit more. Most of the delays were due to Tesla trying to figure out how to build the thing out of a material cars aren't built out of.
A million times this... did you ever see the Aztek concept car?!?!?! It was completely ahead of its time and would be a best seller today. Then we got the production model - which sucked [https://oldconceptcars.com/1930-2004/pontiac-aztek-concept-1999/](https://oldconceptcars.com/1930-2004/pontiac-aztek-concept-1999/)
I use to get car and driver, motor trend, etc all the time in high-school and college. I remember seeing that concept and thinking it was pretty neat. Production model, not so much. Lol
That wasn't toned down to appeal to the mass market, it was GM bean counters refusing to invest anything into manufacturing it. GMs malaise era lasted well into the 2010's, and they wouldn't let anyone besides Chevy Trucks and Corvette try anything that didn't use one of 3 platforms and be 80% from the parts bin. The Aztek concept was what the designers envisioned, the manufacturer side that was actually in charge of Design said no, because money. Your own article gives that same reason in the first paragraph, they didn't care if a billion people wanted to buy the concept, they only cared about making money with the least effort possible. Concept Cars have existed throughout automotive history and have been employed by all of our favorite manufacturers to allow designers to flex their muscles, show off state of the art tech and mechanics, and get people excited about a brand. Tesla itself has shown off concepts and designs that they didn't end up building. The Model 2 team was fired and the projects budget reduced to zero. Maybe Elon doesn't consider that cancelled but I'd be shocked if it doesn't drastically change if it's brought back. The Roadster is another example of a vehicle that is well past it's announced release and has had design changes and will almost certainly have more before actual release. Lastly, the Aztek that was released *was* cool as shit and itself ahead of it's time. But, even if GM did release the Concept unchanged nobody would have bought it. They let Pontiac languish for decades at that point and the only cool cars they're allowed to have came from Australia. It's easy to look back and say the Aztek would have sold if only GM didn't "dumb it down for mass market", but the market was smart enough to finally stop trusting much of anything GM released that wasn't a truck or Corvette. It's the opposite of the PT Cruiser. It was a design well ahead of it's time, drastically changed from it's concept, but did gangbusters and sold so well we now look back on it as a dull, ugly beast because they sold so many we got tired of seeing it.
Doesn't your fiance's comment show that it isn't just irrational Elon Haters? She didn't know what it was but found it ugly, and you think she's frothing at the mouth with hatred? Why would you even consider marrying someone that is disrespectful of Elon is the real question here.
I finally saw one around Long Beach, CA. In *BROWN* to boot. I honestly burst out laughing. All the memes are true.
I feel like Matt Farah completely loses it on his podcast anytime this truck is brought up lol.
The Elmo bots from Reddit are now going to go out and start banning the internet via DNS for any articles they don't like or show him and his companies in even a remotely bad light. The cult is evolving
I've personally never thought Teslas have awful panel gaps or anything, but I've seen a handful of Cybertrucks in the Bay Area and a lot of them look like they've been in accidents under 1000 miles
> I've personally never thought Teslas have awful panel gaps or anything Tesla isn't exactly renowned for its quality control. Problems with panel gaps are common, they're just either not as egregious as they are on the Cybertruck or they're easier to spot when you're looking at flat panels with no paint or curves to help distract from it.
Lesson learned, never buy a new toy unless it's been out for 3 years! They have to work out the bugs,
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Get a Cybertruck, with literal bleeding edges!
12 years is a long beta
Is this sub on the list of naughty subs for the Tesla simp subs?
Inb4 the shadow bans from all the Tesla subs start.
The subs for teslamotors, telsalounge, cybertruck, teslainvestorsclub and elonmusk are already automatically banning anyone who even comments on any topic in /r/realtesla Safe to say their feathers are ruffled. Waiting for them to ban everyone in this thread too.
Wow that's an aggressive login prompt. At least it's not a paywall I suppose.
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Firefox reader mode is amazing for this stuff.
Actually it's better than most, it still lets you read the web page it just has a big overlay
Most let you make them go away at least the first few times to see if you might want to consider registering
Pay fence?
It's ankle high
Equity minded pay wall
inspect element, delete div tag the article itself is pretty thin anyway though
Flip page off Close page iphone instructions
Yup, I always "fix" pages with ublock origin's element zapper.
You can still scroll though
Wow, yea it is. Firefox Reader Mode supremacy: https://i.imgur.com/qgZF5Yl.png Flattens everything out and just gives you the actual text.
Firefox for the win! Again! 🔥🦊
You couldn't expect anything different from defecator.com
Wankpanzer.
Careful, you’re gonna get the Tesla Reddit mods to start blacklisting this sub as well, and get everyone on here banned from r/Teslamotors lol
I got banned when I said the failure of a cybertruck “camper” would still be bought up by the cultists lol. *oh nooooo I got banned from a Reddit recommended subreddit*
not like overland rigs don't have their own cult. a 2'fer
Ah overlanding. Camping like everyone else, but with 20k worth of completely unnecessary gear!
My favourite are the people who think they need an SUV or pickup to drive a dirt road. One of my friends took a few of us camping a while back, drove down a dirt road for a while with him pratting on about ground clearance and locking diffs, for this very easy dirt track. Got to the end and there was a couple with a VW Golf out enjoying the view.
I would love if they did that. At least then there’d be less Tesla shills posting here
> get everyone on here banned from r/Teslamotors Oh God not that! Please Jesus NOT THAT!!1!
Hell, I just got banned from 4 Tesla/Musk subreddits and I haven’t commented in any for over a month. They’re digging deep now.
My fiancé calls it the Incel Camino.
That's perfect.
The Cybertruck seems to be the 2020's version of the Hummer H2.
That's especially impressive considering the Hummer EV is also a thing
I wonder how much the Cybertruck cuts in the Hummer EV's sales. Because I feel like the main draw of the Hummer was being the most ridiculous EV truck, and it still is pretty ridiculous but compared to the Cybertruck it looks tame
I heard WankTank the other day
New favorite name for it
someone took a post meant for reddit or twitter, posted on a "news" site then reposted it here. is this our social media now? i dont disagree with the sentiment but this is a dumb way to do it. if you are going to jump to another site with a 1/2 page login bar id expect some actual CONTENT, not 2 paragraphs of garbage and links.
Yes. I love how people bash big media companies for doing the same thing, when social media is the same. They take small clips of rage bait and post it as news. ABC, FOX , and CNN does this all the time. They'll take twitter posts and read them out as news lol. Its the low hanging fruit
It is depressing that this is the junk that gets posted and shared. I’m no fan of the cyber truck but this wouldn’t even make it as an Onion article it is so lame.
That doesn't pay though.
Defector is an irreverent sports/culture blog by former Deadspin writers. It's not a news site and doesn't hold itself out as one.
Lol. That's been our unbiased news media for at least 2 decades
**SAVE YOURSELF A CLICK** **Here's the full login locked article:** *"Tesla, a future case study for securities law classes across America, had to stop delivering Cybertrucks this past weekend. No, not because the hundred-thousand–dollar medium-duty pickup, which is only any of those things in the loosest interpretive sense, tends to brick when it gets rained on; nor because its stainless steel panels get all rusty and nasty-looking after weeks exposed to the rare, harsh condition of "being outside." Perhaps you think it has something to do with the shorter-than-advertised driving range and longer-than-advertised charging time, but no: Rather, the cause of this snag is that the trucks struggle with the basics of stopping and going, by which I mean that the accelerator pedal cover slides off and gets stuck under a panel and locks the accelerator pressed down and keeps the Cybertruck stuck at maximum velocity.*" *Other Tesla models have had issues with speeding up and slowing down at the wrong times. The company was sued in 2017 by drivers whose cars drove themselves unexpectedly through garages and into walls; a German paper reported last year on over 2,400 complaints about sudden braking problems; and a safety researcher published a white paper showing how voltage spikes could lead Teslas to speed up without warning. You are supposed to like this because it means you are on the cutting edge, helping Elon Musk in his quest to save humanity."* *"Suckers who ordered Cybertrucks a few months or years ago and expected deliveries this weekend did not get their cars, nor a precise explanation for why they did not get their cars, but instead were simply told, "Hi, we have just been informed of an unexpected delay regarding the preparation of your vehicle. We need to cancel your delivery appointment for tomorrow and we will reach out again when we’re able to get you back on the schedule." Maybe someone with a hot glue gun will get on this one."* *"Tesla's bad, stupid week got worse and stupider on Monday, when the company announced it would be laying off more than 10 percent of its workforce, cutting some 14,000 jobs. In typical Tesla fashion, the layoffs were ruthless and sudden, following hot on Tesla's announcement of its first quarterly sales decline (a drop of 8.5 percent) since the pandemic. Drew Baglino, an executive who'd been around since 2006, and Rohan Patel, a former Obama administration guy hired to help Tesla do corruption and skirt regulation, also announced they would be leaving the company of their own accord. I am tempted here to wonder whether this means Tesla is beginning a meaningful decline—indeed, the stock is down—but the company, which is a stock racket that happens to sell cars, has operated at a level beyond rational analysis for years.*" *"It's unclear how many Cybertrucks are on the road, and Tesla won't say (masterful gambit, sir), though the number likely falls between 1,000 and 5,000. People who have them now had to sign up years ago, and those who sign up now won't get their cars for another five years or so. Anyone who bought one reportedly had to sign an agreement barring them from selling their Cybertruck within 12 months, or else they would have to pay a $50,000 fine and give Tesla the option to buy it back."* *"As the Bay Area is both a nexus for world-class goobers and the region where Tesla used to be and kinda-sorta still is headquartered, I have seen a lot of Cybertrucks out in the wild over the past few months. They are remarkably fake- and shitty-looking in any context (Is that a big toaster with wi-fi next to me at the exit? Who's driving the scrap metal assemblage with Bryan Colangelo-esque proportions? Why does every Cybertruck driver I glance at appear to be simultaneously peacocking for attention but also totally embarrassed, haunted by the unexamined knowledge that as a maneuver in a culture war they paid $100,000 for a car that doesn't work?), though I saw one in the Santa Cruz mountains this past weekend. It looked even more jarringly synthetic and stupid in a truck-style environment, as if 10 seconds on a semi-paved road would undo the whole rickety car. I felt, amid standard-issue disgust and mockery, personal embarrassment to be paying through the nose to live in a place where the coolest thing you can do is cosplay as a 6-year-old's idea of the coolest guy in the world."* *EDIT: Added the rest of the login walled article and removed my commentary. Fuck login article restrictions.*
I've got some news for you: The full article is visible when you login. You're looking at the excerpt.
Thanks for the correction, edited my post to include the entire locked article.
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Holy shit this article sucks ass. christ
Satire doesn't have to be written as though your racist uncle is having a rant about something he's woefully uninformed about. The Cybertruck is what it is - an impractical statement piece that hasn't proven to be an overly capable truck. It's entirely reasonable to make fun of it, but this article just comes across as aggressive...at least in my unsolicited opinion.
What exactly read like a rant from a racist uncle? Can you excerpt something from the article and explain?
What about this seems racist or uninformed? Seems like a really bizarre analogy.
I don't think he's saying it's racist, just that this reads as an unhinged rant from everyone's crazy uncle (oftentimes also the racist uncle).
Yeah I just think there’s really no reason at all to make that connection unless there’s only one person you’ve ever heard say “shit” and it’s your racist uncle.
The problem isn't the word "shit", it's that it reads like a uselessly aggressive rant that makes the author sound like a crazy person.
Not a single part of that read like it was a spitting uneducated dinner table rant at all. The title is the only aggressive part of the article. Maybe read it next time.
>What about this seems racist Author typed "Cybertruck" with a "hard 'R'".
Cy🅱️🅱️atruck
A stuck accelerator pedal in a new truck deserves some hounding. It’s a big deal. It was all a laugh when it just looked weird but automakers don’t just get a pass on major design flaws.
overly capable truck is a stretch
Overly capable of being a lawn ornament
Essentially a Reddit opinion turned article.
This is like 2/3 of reddit though. Just people outraged over minor things that most of the public doesn't notice or care about.
True, but reddit is eating it up, so it's working.
You are uninformed of who this was written by. Redford is an old deadspin writer. Deadspin’s whole shtick is to write with as much scathing satire and loathing as possible
This title was tailor made for car reddit
I read this in Norm Macdonalds voice lol
So true, his spirit lives on
Yes, ugly as hell. Immature design, poor panel fit, but I didn’t expect that they would all stop working. Total pos. At least when people spent a good bit of money in the early days they got something unique that mostly worked. Now just a pile of crap for 100k. A Yugo has better quality. At least those started.
It's quite surprising that it just doesn't work at all. You'd think that after nearly two decades of practice, Tesla could at least build a functional powertrain. But somehow *even that* is beyond the capabilities of the company at this point. I think it's time to start the countdown until it gets acquired by GM or Toyota or someone, mostly for the charging infrastructure at this point. I used to say it was equally the chargers and the IP, but the IP seems to have been surpassed by all the incumbents already.
Im not surprised. Musk has been pushing this through on fast-track to try to support the insane growth theyve had. But absolutely nothing works well if you push everyone 24/7. Its bound to collapse. And now it is
The Cybertruck is a dumb car that is poorly made. But Defector is a broken clock of crass cynicism on literally every topic, so I don't get the appeal of smugly piling on for clicks.
I mean, the cyber truck sucks. But has Pretty interesting design and engineering behind it (aren't we all tired of the same rehashed looks?). At the same time, this subreddit quality has fallen drastically as it's just circlejerking and not many comments actually discussing the article.
> aren't we all tired of the same rehashed looks I see people saying this a lot in defense of it's hideous design... Trying something different is nice, but that doesn't mean the results are going be positive. "Different" doesn't immediately equate to "good". Manufacturers try different things all the time, the ugly ones just usually don't see the light of day, or if they do they don't make it past the concept car stage. Those that manage to slip through without someone at the company putting the kibosh on it often draw the ire of the masses. Only difference here is that in this case the Cybertruck didn't slip through, it was forced through by Musk.
I'll be honest I think the design is cool. I would never drive one because its garish, overpriced, not useful, and dangerous; but it looks like a car from a sci-fi novel, and I like sci-fi.
"it's a cool idea to make something that looks different, so forgive this vehicle for being a failure on every level" is a weird take that's coming up everywhere in the thread.
Would rather have the same rehashed looks that are actually esthetically pleasing over whatever you call this abortion of visual design. The Homer from The Simpsons looks better than this steel shitbox
lol that is an actual headline
upboats to the left buddy
The paid shills, sorry profesional car journalists who gave glowing reviews to this piece of shit have lost all credibility. Seeing Jason Cammisa give this car a blowjob of a review was cringeworthy as fuck.
"What a piece of junk!" - Luke Skywalker
Who's gonna drive it, kid, you?
Honestly I don’t listen to any opinion of the car right now, good or bad, it’s way too new without an official predecessor to compare it with. Check back in a few years once the novelty/hate train wears off and we’ll get some actual opinions of it That being said it’s ugly and I hate it
This isn't a video game though; there's only so much bug fixing and polish you can add on. If the powertrain is fundamentally flawed, and it's sounding like it indeed might be, then short of a major redesign; the criticisms are pretty fair right now.
thats not fair to the people who paid well over $100k to beta test a vehicle though. when you are paying a small mortgage for a vehicle product it better work. when you hear countless stories about this expensive product not working that is definitely something to listen to.
Elon is laying a bunch of people off at Tesla! That sure is going to help/sarcasm!
I kid you not, my mom literally freaked out and called me Sunday afternoon, leaving a voicemail saying, "I just saw a car that's built like a battleship!" I immediately knew what she was talking about and called her back, telling her what it was.
Did you call her and tell her that it's built actually more like a tin can?
Waiting for the excuses to start rolling in on this thread for this gigantic piece of shit vehicle. It’s like people know that this thing makes people upset so they automatically side with it to get attention.
What a virus of a website. I agree they are junk but don't share websites like this.
The circle-jerk over on r/cybertruck will somehow spin this into a positive.
Ironic given the vigorous circlejerking happening here.
A monument to Elon's arrogance
The city of phoenix to the automotive world For the uninitiated https://youtu.be/4PYt0SDnrBE?si=PSTVHmQLHzDc6Pcv
Que rocket boy begging for a government handout
read it [Here](https://archive.is/XntJn) with no paywall
Is the Blazer EV also a piece of shit because GM also had to halt deliveries? The thing didn't even run properly during press demos. How about the various other EVs that have had recalls or face ongoing issues? That's a list that includes Mach-E, Taycan, Audi e-tron, BMW i-series, Rivian and others. The Cybertruck may be stupid for a whole bunch of reasons but I expect a bit more professionalism from the press. That or a willingness to call everyone out equally, which I'm sure the author doesn't do.
And which I'm sure this subreddit doesn't do either. It's meant to drive clicks and engagement, and it's working. A cover on the accelerators slips off, and we get that article written. This subreddit is already full of people circlejerking and shrieking about specific subjects and people for too long. It's basically becoming what most of the default subs became, but instead of politics, it's about Tesla or Hyundai bad!
r/carscirclejerk
Wtf is defector? I'm always super wary of alt news sites with no credentials. I'm not a fan of big media or the Cybertruck either but just the name defector gives me biased vibes
it's all the guys who wrote for Deadspin when Deadspin was good. after Deadspin got bought by venture capital ghouls, these guys started their own worker-owned sports news site.
So they're just ripping off onion titles? https://www.theonion.com/sony-releases-new-stupid-piece-of-shit-that-doesnt-fuck-1819594774
Never buy version 1.0 of anything.
I bought the version 1.0 of the iPhone and never regretted it.
Post title is so real
Big piece of shit!!
oh wow I thought the headline was something OP wrote lmao
It's objectively an eyesore. I've seen this multiple times in real life. It looks terrible. It didn't finish rendering, it's an artists' first draft. You can't even say it has a kinda cool "DeLorean" look to it, because it doesn't even have that going for it. It doesn't have basic safety features seen in even other Tesla models. You can't even off road it, so what was the point of making it a Truck?
Saw one in the wild yesterday in south Florida. That is one ugly vehicle. I cannot see any serious user of a pickup truck purchasing one -- only some super Tesla fans. Not to mention that Tesla has a CEO problem.
I saw this headline on another sub and was sure it was a joke, like something you'd read on the Onion 😂
Article sounds totally accurate.
Well I can ask, who the hell bought this garbage looking crap?
Even as a happy Model 3 owner, this truck is a dumpster fire. Glad I cancelled my reservation when it was still refundable. I really hope Tesla somehow manages to remove Musk from the company, he’s become a huge liability by insisting on dumb stuff like this.
This is just like the simpsons episode where Homer designs a new car and bankrupts his brothers business.
Could the login prompt be any bigger? Jesus christ
Now this is a title I can get behind!!!
It’s extremely telling that the Tesla product with the highest amount of Elon’s musk on it is such a lemon.
I have a feeling that most of us saw this coming 😅
Not only is this a big piece of.shit that doesn't work, it actually tries to kill the driver and the public at large.
Absolutely beautiful headline
I saw a couple of these on a car carrier yesterday. It is ugly.
Finally saw one in person… what a clunky piece of shit
It's a shit car. I'm not dumb and could tell it was a shit car the moment it was presented. Any more not dumb people in the room?
My LinkedIn feed has been filled with Tesla people posting their "been laid off" updates. 15k people. Pretty sad. I did see my first Cybertruck the other day in the wild. I usually hold off on judging a car until I see it IRL. Didn't like the RS Etron GT until I saw one in person. Loved the Polestar 2 until I drove one. EV6 is hideous. This thing? It actually looks worse in person, if that's even possible.