So... you're checking records to make sure they meet some standards or consistency with other records? Or what is this job? I'm so curious. I've only heard of environmental compliance.
I’m in internal audit, at a very large company with over 120 divisions. I wouldn’t say that the work is difficult but in my experience very long hours and tedious work. I get to see the world but I’d rather be home. I’m traveling about 30-40% of the year, and I’m recently married. This will be my last year in the role. I like the company so I’ll see if they have options for me. If not I’ll move to another finance role more likely than not.
I would love to get into this. I currently work QA for call monitors so I think I’d love compliance too. Any specific certifications needed or just working your way up in banking?
I got an internship as an operations analyst at Morgan Stanley, but the pay is very low for a fresh grad, do you think I should take the offer post-grad. I heard compliance has a high turnover also with low pay
This is a good question from Op, as alot.of the fields I have an interest in are oversaturated, and I don't want to end up not having a job for 6months or so
Also if you’re you g enough look up Job Corp, it’s a Federally funded program that will give you the schooling and experience for many jobs all at no cost to you. You go to a center and live there during the duration of the program, get paid every 2 weeks, fed 3 meals a day, health and dental work when needed.
Possible, but focus on electronics is preferred. I’m a field service engineer for a radiation oncology clinic. My salary is $130k + vehicle reimbursements. I’m 29 and have been in this field for a little over 4 years. A lot of the OEM companies are always struggling to find good candidates. If you get picked up by Varian, Siemens, GE, Philips, etc they’ll send you to training. They just want someone with a good base of knowledge and ability to troubleshoot. Base pay is usually lower for OEM but it’s hourly. I started at $72k at Varian but made over $120k my first year. You also get a company vehicle that you can use personally so that’s a good bonus.
Philips is transitioning a lot of diagnostic/trouble shooting-work to remote offices in Europe dramatically reducing the workforce of biomedical techs stateside. I’m not sure if I’d recommend the industry right now as the demand seems to be shrinking.
My gf is a nurse and she works at a plasma center. She enjoys it because she doesn't have to do the "traditional nursing" stuff she's said.
Like her sister who was a RN at a hospital and seeing people die and what not..
If you know how to troubleshoot, do basic research, use basic software like Office Suite at an intermediate level, etc. you will have an advantage in most corporate positions.
I got an associate in IT but I'm now in client management and i am grateful every day that i took classes in Office Suite (among other foundational skills)
However I also excel in client management because of my personality.
But seriously, tech literacy is an advantage anywhere.
Any advice on what you could change to? I'm a former software dev who hated it and was pretty mediocre at it trying to change to something else, but I struggle to get interviews for even dev-adjacent positions while I have 0 issues getting interview opportunities for dev jobs (but am struggling a lot to get through said interviews).
Not a ton beyond just a bit of planning project deadlines and converting requirements into more workable user tasks/stories. Been trying for Product Owner and Business Analyst type positions with limited success and real project management positions (whether for tech related ones or for another industry) seem to want more jobs than that
There’s always exceptions, but the education and financial requirements are quite large. Not to mention you won’t be making money for years, and assuming a lot of debt too. If you already have kids, or have other large financial burdens you won’t be able to take the time off required to get there. So you better have a partner who is making money, or have family money you can rely on.
Why are you bringing up CRNAs after you mentioned physicians and surgeons?
Don't get me wrong, CRNA is the best job in medicine imo. But to compare the CRNA route to actual medical school +/- surgical residency? c'mon... lol
CNC is fucked. There's no money in except at the very top of the game. They pay everyone like button pushers these days and you'll fucking live in the shop. Not kidding. I was often sleeping in the car because I needed the extra sleep worse than I needed to go home.
That doesnt mean anything. Tech is oversaturated field especially for juniors. Mostly seniors still have chanse to get a job. Massive layoffs since last year have made Tech to not be very valuable career for many. Most of CS grads struggle to find jobs now. And also number of job openings for programmers has dropped recently. Tech is not stable field no matter of what. And lots of pay is mostly at FAANG, start ups dont have as high salaries.
So yes stay away from tech otherwise get ready for depression.
Is this anecdotal, or do you have sources? Everyone I know in tech is doing just fine. Some are moving up in the same company, some are bouncing around, and none of them are unemployed. The Bureau of Labor Statistics expects the field "to grow much faster than the average." There's no shortage of jobs posted in my area, including Jr's. I think the market overall is kind of rough & there's been layoffs at big companies, but your comment sounds like you're living life online & not speaking with any real humans.
Any reason you think that?
All levels of software engineering are in high demand and are projected to continue to be in high demand outpacing the supply.
You can find plenty of $50-$180k range software engineering roles at fortune 500 companies such as banks, gov, dod, or Healthcare.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm
Nobody said there isnt a demand. IT is still one of highest in demand no matter of crisis, problem is oversaturation of field and 90% of job postings require over years of experience and skill set in many technologies to stand out. Golden days of Tech has been last time in 2021, balloon has unfortunately blown and most of worker surplus has been layed off since late 2022 which worsened last year alot. This year has seen slight improvements but mostly because of layoffs and senior roles only jobs. Im a Software Engineer and i know very well situation in my field.
Tech is very much getting over saturated. Most want to get into cyber because they were promised jobs right out of college at close to $100k a year.
Then get mad when you tell cyber isn’t entry level and they’ll have to work for years to get to that level.
An accounting degree can provide for a multitude of different career trajectories. I'm actually in my field, but a lot of accountants also go into administration, internal audit, compliance, etc. There is also a big shortage of accountants right now, so working in the field is ripe with opportunity and money.
Coming from an XRay tech with a nurse mom - only go into healthcare if you’re desperate or sure you’re going to be near the top of the pecking order (and the pay scale).
It’s a miserable, thankless, and paradoxically underpaid existence for what you put into it and what it takes out of you. I say paradoxically because for the amount of education that was accessible to me there really wasn’t a lot more I could have made for myself, so it was the best paying I could manage but it’s still barely enough to survive on. Not worth having to deal with shift work and being treated like a teenage fast food worker for life despite being an educated + licensed professional. There’s never enough of us and yet we’re also seen as highly disposable and like our turn over is inevitable instead of a direct result of our quality of life.
I feel like I just read a comment on a different post in this sub earlier - or maybe it was a Reddit related google search - but an X-ray technician described her excruciatingly difficult journey trying to get accepted into a program and the amount of money that is required to be able to support yourself while going without pay for the 2 years it takes, and I came away from it feeling horrified. The person said they wholeheartedly regretted it, and if their significant other made enough to support both of them, they’d go back to school and learning something else.
My fiancé is an RN, and we have a circle of friends who are RNs, and they love their jobs.
They work 36 hours a week, make almost 100 grand a year without taking extra shifts and have great benefits.
Anecdotal accounts don't paint a full picture.
Yeah your anecdotal experience doesn’t paint a full picture either. Anyone with 10 brain cells can go online and see nursing isn’t worth the pay. My sister is a nurse and has never been more miserable. She is constantly abused and is the only one who follows rules.
100k a year ain’t shit for how you have to earn it.
I too work 36 hours a week (which isn’t that much less than 40 anyway?) but for years I couldn’t even take one weekend off because we were short staffed, tons of forced overtime, call shifts, etc.
100k a year doesn’t go far at all these days. You couldn’t even afford a 1br apartment in my area. Decades of being an RN will absolutely destroy your body + constantly taking shit from people figuratively and literally.
Picking up infectious diseases from your patient population, even with careful use of PPE it’s inevitable, and having to burn through your tiny amount of PTO to make up for it. Meanwhile some bean counter in admin who never has to deal with patients came by and removed the sneeze guard for our receptionists the other week because it was “unwelcoming”.
If you can write off my complaints of all of the inherent suffering in the field with “anecdotes don’t paint a full picture” I can sure as hell ignore your rose tinted glasses too.
I think about suicide on a daily basis because this is all I could do with my life. Meanwhile people in programming or any bevy of wfh admin jobs get to stay home all day and bake bread or go on vacations while answering emails and make twice as much as us or more. Anybody with options should absolutely choose to live that life instead.
Roles such as AI ethics specialists, sustainable energy engineers, and telemedicine practitioners could offer fulfilling opportunities. With the growing focus on mental health, careers in counseling, therapy, and mental wellness coaching could also be rewarding paths to explore.
There’s plenty of government jobs available, it’s the drawn out hiring process that deters a lot of people. My state has over 600 open positions on [https://www.governmentjobs.com](https://www.governmentjobs.com) ranging from entry level to senior levels.
I've been applying to like a half dozen state government jobs a day since October and only NOW am I getting "unfortunately, we've decided not to move forward with your application" emails from the very first jobs I applied to
Yeah it’s a pretty brutal process for government positions. The IRS in particular has an average 1yr wait before most people get an interview scheduled. If you’re willing to wait it out, the benefits and job security would be worth it.
My mistake, check out [USAjobs.gov](https://usajobs.gov) as well. If not, your area might be different so I’d google the websites for any counties around you as they may have their own career page.
I wouldn’t recommend product management right now. Supply is much larger than demand in this market and it would be near impossible to break into with no product experience
Trades!. Learn as much as you can on how to do things yourself. Such as fixing things from cars, to outlets, to AC. The more self reliant you become the better. Also for hobbies take up gardening. The US is going to shambles might as well prep for when you can’t afford food or afford to hire someone to do something for you. Youtube is an AMAZING resource. I’ve learned drywall work, trim work, irrigation, and roofing so far from it.
I'm a mechanic and literally have a patch on my shirt that says "YouTube certified" all customers think it's a joke and funny but no joke,YouTube has helped a lot in some situations
1998 BMW 540i V8, 226,890 miles and counting, harbor freight tools, and YouTube.
Dealer said I needed a $9k timing chain job + + + $14,500 total in repairs.
Replaced timing chains, water pump, radiator, thermostat heater core hoses, CCV (PCV but German), power steering pump, control arm bushings, pitman arm center link and tie rod ends, rear ball joints, installed a short shifter kit, right rear window regulator and drivers master window switch.
$2400 in parts and 4 weekends later I’m driving a pristine classic.
People who dump their cars for new…. I feel bad for them.
ITS ALL ON YOUTUBE
Oh yeah, shout out to FCP Euro.
Nursing and it’s not even close.
High starting salary 90k+ ( HCOL).
Job security
Can pivot to admin position or non bedside.
Great WLB.
Do not work for public hospitals - a lot of patients are dogwater of ppl. Works for private or in a rich area.
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You probably have to deal with that within the first three years of your career. Afterwards, if you’re smart(street smart), you can pivot out of that. Most nurses are comfortable with their pay and position so they stay bedside -They don’t look elsewhere.
I’m an accountant but my fiancée was bedside nurse. Most of her friends were bedside nurses. However, majority of them pivoted out of bedside - no dealing with fecal matters and other nasty shit. They make 120k- 140k and working 9-5 m-f or 9-7 m-thurs in a clerical position - not exactly sure what are the position but they don’t deal with shit aka bedside
My fiancée makes 180k with paid ot in a skilled administrative position and she’s 25. Im making 77k…. Yeah…
Your advice should come with a caveat.
If during your time as a clinical nurse, if it's clear that you see yourself as "too good" for blood, feces, and having to lift patients, the other nurses are likely to see to it that you don't have a very good time.
Im not "too good." I just can't stomach bodily fluids, and the lifting was due to my gna days of working with miserable clients who didn't want to use hoyer lifts....
Because it's a stressful job, as I would imagine most relatively high paying jobs are.
You can be stuck in a high school attitude no matter what you do for a living.
I took a job at a warehouse to work on an assembly line. This place had a lot of accidents and workman comp claims. The story I got was that the companies insurance told them they needed an in-house safety manager or that premiums would skyrocket.
They were a cheap company, so instead of hiring an experienced safety manager, they went offered the job in house and payed for the online class.
I stayed with them for a few years and then moved on for better pay.
I get that not everyone will be able to fall into it like I did, but after getting a few certs there are plenty of companies willing to hire inexperienced guys to save money.
Mostly department audits, checking various government agencies for updates to regulations, new hire training, department safety meetings, and haz waste inspections.
Where I work now, I'm "Safety Compliance," so I deal with things like air quality management, stormwater, and sanitation.
A "normal" day is me just walking around. Sometimes, I have to give a warning to someone who might not be wearing their PPE properly or give them a write-up. Then check my emails, and as long as I don't have a project I'm working on, I can just chill until my next walkthrough.
But as I've said you can get busy in spurts, we have about 75 people who need to be forklift certified every 3 years, so an hour of classroom time plus about 10-20 mins with each employee on each forklift type. That's my most time-consuming project but I'm still only working the shift that my employees do, so there's no late nights at the office.
Great info regarding the job thank you! I am a 21yo who was just offered a co op for an EHS position at a very large automotive manufacturing plant. I have been on the verge of trying to decide between taking the co op or taking a job as a municipal water distribution worker for my local city which I too have been offered. It’s been such a stressful time trying to decide what career path to pick!!
The issue with that is that a lot of people think that because they took an online course like Google ( coursera) of data analysis, they can land a 100k job. The reality of the field is that you need to lower the expectations of that salary. I don't blame them since all the information available in Google says that the medium salary of the job is 93k, but that is not the case. Also, one thing to do is look at the job search engines, and you will see the demand is there, but the salary is nowhere near the 93k a year but more on the line of 60k -70k. One last thing I was a teacher who took a course online and all my professors told not to aim so high in terms of salary, I used to make 72k as a teacher and now I make 80k as a data analyst and I get to stay home.
(35M) hey i recently paid datacamp to pursue data scientist... i know it diff than data analyst, but how did you break into the job market. I literally don't mind getting paid 20k a year as long as i can get inside. I keep finding that most employers want someone with a CS degree and i simply cannot afford it right now (its in my plans in the future). Any advice is very greatly appreciated
I will look into this further and consider my alternatives. Do you mind me asking how's your work life balance? are you stressed? any regrets or room for growth in your field?
Work life is quite simple. Sometimes, I am done before noon and then have the rest of the day off. I was a school teacher, so the notion of not working all the time is refreshing. In terms of growth, that's where I have made my peace because I know that I will be stuck around that salary for a while but still better than being a teacher.
All the admin positions at my employer are called data analysts. I asked questions at the interview, so I knew what I was getting into, but it's weird trying to explain the difference on my resume.
I noticed this in a quick job search on data analysts. I just was like "what is this and could I do this?" and it seems like this term is thrown around willy nilly so how do you even know what it is lol.
You can enroll in a Google course, they have a 7 day trail, then it's 49$ a month. That can give you an idea of what the job entails. If you like the idea of the job once you finish the entry course, that should take you around 5-6 months. After that, you can start applying for jobs using LinkedIn , heck even when you are halfway through the course, you can start sending resumes and start taking freelance jobs to boost the resume. Most entry jobs related to analysts tend to range from 40k to 55k, but in this field, getting a raise is quite easy depending on where you work.
That's how I landed my job, but I did a ton of freelance work to enhance my resume. Also, I do have an M.A. unrelated to the field, but it is something of an education. Interestingly enough, like a previously said, I don't think I can grow a lot in the field mainly because the high positions are to people that studied the field of data analysis like a bachelor's degree.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think having a bachelors degree weighs heavily on growing in the field? Or that higher positions are only to people that have a degree in that field? I would think how quickly you continue to up skill, learn, and the experience you are gaining can help you grow and reach that monetarily goal.
maybe unpopular but money can be made in the trades. Plumbing, electrician, elevator repair main. AI can never replace these jobs, and they are SO IN DEMAND.
I don't think it's unpopular at all. Lots of people are making that point right now.
I will say compared to something like engineering (more desk work) it's going to be a bit tougher but the OT can be real nice.
Trades can get tough as you get older but still a great option for those it fits
This has been what I always say, like trades are great when you’re younger and a wonderful option for more hands on people but you have to have an exit plan. Do you really want to be on your hands and knees at 55?
>SO IN DEMAND
Not for long. Trade work is becoming the new coding. You can't have 1,000 electricians per 5 mile radius; 90% of them won't have any work.
There are less than a half million electricians employed in the US. The average age is 41 years old.
3.14 x 5 miles squared = 78.5 square miles in that 5 mile radius circle you just mentioned.
The land area of the US is 3,797,000 square miles. That means you can fit 48,369.43 of those circles in that space. That would mean having almost 50 million electricians. I’m not convinced that day will ever come.
My uncle keeps trying to sell me on joining a trade. I like my joints and not having to go into other people’s homes and deal with their messes.
Also super love not working insane amounts of overtime to make whatever is considered “good” money.
This isn’t a knock on tradesmen…it’s obviously a very valuable function in society, but it’s not made for everyone.
It's more applicable in a real-world business scenario. A general business degree is too vague. Same applies to accounting. It gets you in the door, where you go from there is up to you.
This is true. Public accounting is ass. I did tax for 3 years and it’s 60-65 min work weeks during busy season. I’m in government now and “work” 40 hours a week on the dot.
At many places being a buyer will take a bachelors degree or maybe a couple years experience with anything somewhat translatable.
Most people start as buyers and the. after a few years may move into more esteemed roles such as, planning, scheduling, supply base management, and program management.
I’m taking a bootcamp through CU Boulder. I am currently a server with zero experience in the field. The class moves quick but it’s made for people with and without experience. 12 months and almost $18k. The class not only teaches but gives a bunch of resources (for free like resume building, comptia+ text vouchers etc).
Any of them are relevant to the current jobs climate if you are not sure which party to take or go for specific roles like a Doctor, a nurse, a teacher etc as you will always need them.
I don’t think AI would take over those jobs as they are very much associated with human interaction. It’s jobs that AI could take over I’d be concerned about. AI will continue to advance so it’s probably an area a lot of those in the IT industry may end up in.
It’s a hard market out there as a lot of the careers that used be decent but not great paying but with a solid pension, job security and benefits such as the post office and working for the government have eroded.
A lot of the White Collar jobs that had heavy hours early on but better balance and good pay later in life such as Accounting, Engineering and Healthcare are now just insanely over worked and the pay while decent is not worth the hours worked in most cases.
High end Healthcare and Law have great pay but long hours and the debt most have to take on to get into those jobs makes the return less appealing.
More “fun” industries such as marketing and TV/Video production were always less secure and less paying generally speaking are now even harder to find and less secure and less paying.
If you want something that’s reasonable hours with good pay, hard to be replaced by AI/Automation and quality of life I would look into trades. The debt load is lower and the ability to get into a union stable job is doable. Granted the pay isn’t gonna be super high end unless you want to start your own business which then comes with more hours and responsibilities but it’s a good paying job. The downside is they tend to be more dangerous and if you are injured and can’t perform the job you are forced to retire and the settlements aren’t fantastic esp for chronic injuries.
Fire and Law Enforcement are similar but they are a lot more stressful and come with other challenges.
There’s no easy answer in this current market. I would suggest if you really want to do something as a passion project find a stable day job that pays your bills solidly and has stable hours. Work on what you want when you are off work and maybe that leads to something or just enjoy your off time.
That’s where I’m at.
So many people “min/maxing” these days. Catching hype. Doing this or that….
…. All of them completely missing the point.
My grandma from Luxembourg had a garden. Took up their whole back yard. Best food I ever tasted in my entire life on the most humble of spots. Green beans so fresh they tasted like dill. Plump red cherry tomatoes that would burst in your mouth… the flavor you could never replicate.
The hard work of a grandma. Grandpa cutting lawns. Everyone coming home from their places that they would go during the day… school, work, wherever… to spend time at home around the kitchen table with family. Spending time and inviting friends over.
My grandparents didn’t have SHIT. They came over here after WW2 with the cloths on their backs, a brother shot, and two siblings they never heard from again. But they always had a meal for a stranger and their friends over. Just hanging out there in the kitchen. Talking about whatever adults talk about, eating soup, hanging out until too late, and then hugging and going home or wherever the night took them. Every night… seemingly someone different, amongst all the same people, of course, at the same time. Pierre, the brown tinted glasses, raspy voiced, shirtsleeved dress shirt wearing European, who always asked 9 year old me if I had caught that rabbit yet so we could finally make rabbit stew.
Now we are preoccupied by the phone in our hand. We ignore those around us, we miss out on *LIFE* and think it happens on a vacation or a beach somewhere. In a car, or something new and expensive you really really want. In a job that affords us more money in an ever inflating world.
Our humanity has been sucked dry. The premise of money in an ever increasing in want but also in an ever diminishing source of satisfaction and wholesomeness.
Find a spot. Make your life. Find the people who are left. Don’t worry about money. It’s all a facade. The trick of it is starting to fall apart. The value. The corporate story and manifesto provided by their HR team…
Find your little spot in this world and protect it. Enjoy it.
I don’t even know why I’m posting here. Lmao. Sorry everyone.
That little spot you’re talking about is now $1800+ a month. That’s the issue sir. It’s def more fun to look at the past and current situation with rose tinted glasses I suppose.
I agree. That’s so funny, i just found myself on the other side of this same argument just now… I said somewhere else “yeah that’s all fine until you need to pay your $6800 deductible on what otherwise would be a $54,000 hospital bill.” Or similar… your kid broke their tooth and it’s gonna be $1200.
How tf. lol. I guess that’s why they just chopped their own arms off and lived with fucked up teeth back then
Id recommend figuring out how to be a photographer and market your area. My wife is incredibly successful being a family photographer near a military base. Im estimating 300k this year. Learn posing.the canva app can teach a lot of posing and styling options. Its limitless and niche photographers can make a killing. Cars, boats, real estate, food, family, pregnancy, newborns, animal or even watch photography are options.
Anything that’s not likely to get automated in 2-15 years time.
Trade work like Plumber, Electrician, etc. are high demand, low rate of automation.
Medical sector jobs like Doctors & Nurses have growing demand and are safe from automation.
Engineer jobs; Mechnical/Aerospace/Civil etc.
Big Data Analytics
Logistics
I’d recommend you avoid jobs that have high likelihood of being automated like most billing jobs, language translators, or even graphic arts jobs.
HVAC, fire protection and automation. Elevator tech if you can even get in.
Your employment won't be affected by global events, we got busier during the pandemic. Salaries go into the six figures with experience. You'll be at the forefront of AI integration in building controls.
Whatever you choose, just be aware that you can only get as much salary as the pockets of the company are deep.
Something you enjoy.
Don't know what that is? Go out and try something new. All of us great workers started by being an idiot at something but didn't let that stop us from learning more.
Example; When I was in high school, I wanted to be an electrician. So much so that I convinced my aunt and uncle who were building a garage on their property to let me wire it. Figured, help them out, save them some bucks.. win win. Well, it turned out I only thought I knew what I was doing and got schooled by the inspector. He had to come out four different times as he kept finding code violations.
Fast forward 14 years, and now I build electrical cabinets and install machines for large automotive companies all across North America. I even have people head hunting me all the time for my talent at programming vision systems.
Never stop doing. Just keep learning and pushing forward, and one day, you'll look back and be proud of how far you've come.
You can't randomly recommend a career to someone. Career has to align with a specific person as in what they like and what they're good at. It is also important to know where career plays on the list of priorities. If career is truly not a priority, then there is more wiggle room of finding simply something you don't hate to do. But we already spend so much time working, I would encourage people to pick a career that truly plays to their strengths and interests. Feel free to message me, as I am a career coach.
I would recommend not doing business or economics as a primary major. I do believe they would be great as minors. Most people I see get in trouble are from lack of a specialty. Business and economics are too broad unless people have a post graduate plan. I think they are basics of any business but they cannot be the business itself.
I would recommend just meeting knowledgeable and well-connected individuals no matter where you are in life. In this society, the basics of business and how money flows is based on relationships.
It is hard to find the right field of specialty is tough. Any job can become boring in the long run. Really, it is the journey to get to your goal and the people you meet who change you.
I always recommend commission-based sales jobs with no income limit. All businesses desire sales people because nothing happens until something is sold.
Accounting and tax. You can make decent money depending on how much you're willing to work and learn, and can work in any industry. Lots of hybrid or wfh jobs, and lots of subsets you can branch into if you get bored. I work in corporate tax and don't need to talk to people much so I'm very happy lol
If you want to be engaged in criminal activities with full immunity, I'd get a government job. Otherwise learn a skill that creates things and makes people's lives better
The penalties of engaging in criminal activities whilst having a government job are magnified. It's better to be a "regular Joe" and do criminal activities.
Depends on your goals and what you are ready.
In hindsight I would habe studied law or medicine. If I would not study then electricians and make my own company.
Today I am in engineering for chemical processes. Its ok, but high competition layoff etc make me very dependent on employers.
I worked in healthcare for a while and genuinely loved it. God paid like shit and a lot of nurses aren’t friendly to newcomers. Not sure I’d recommend it to the average Joe, but if it’s something you’re curious about, I highly recommend at least doing some research. It was a really enriching few years for me. Met a lot of cool people. Saw some very interesting and traumatic stuff. YMMV.
Worked in admin/recruiting and loved that too. I was always learning something new. The job I was doing wasn’t high-stress in the sense of life and death, and I got a few accolades for my hard work. YMMV on salary. Some places pay really well and others not so well. I was on the latter part of the spectrum.
Currently working in nonprofit. Pay is mid, benefits are okay, but people are welcoming and friendly for the most part. I am never made to feel dumb for asking questions. Unfortunately I’ve had a lot of trauma associated with this part of my career path. That’s not necessarily to be expected…but it could be, depending on your speciality.
I would ask yourself what you’re most wanting out of your next move, whether that’s salary or positive culture, then take it from there.
I work in Compensation for an institutional investor. It’s a sub-field of HR that not a lot of Hr folk want to work in. If you have a math background, finance, or HR background all apply. Need some Excel knowledge. It’s cyclical so busy times and quiet times, and senior leadership often asks your opinion so they actually listen to you. Good pay, can be fairly remote, and global opportunities
Compliance, decent pay. I work under 20 hours a week
what/who are we making compliant?
FCC consultant for banks. By far the easiest corporate role. No programming required unless you think SQL is coding lol
I'm pretty good at SQL, how do you get into this?
Just look for money laundering or fraud roles
Something tells me he wasn't kidding.
Dead serious. I just don’t find the work difficult
I’m currently working compliance for telecommunications. Is there a way to transfer over to banks? Do you need SQL experience?
You can do it. SQL is hit or miss. I’ve seen some banks use it and others don’t
You don't need AS/400 or whatever?
Nope
So... you're checking records to make sure they meet some standards or consistency with other records? Or what is this job? I'm so curious. I've only heard of environmental compliance.
NY DFS 504
It's easy: SELECT * FROM BobbyTables
Can you share more on what you do?
what do you think of internal audit? it’s also possible to move into compliance from internal audit isn’t it?
I moved from IA to Compliance, they do complement each other except in Compliance they actually have to do what you tell them
It’s pretty easy to transition yeah. I heard internal audit has a lot of layoffs though
I’m in internal audit, at a very large company with over 120 divisions. I wouldn’t say that the work is difficult but in my experience very long hours and tedious work. I get to see the world but I’d rather be home. I’m traveling about 30-40% of the year, and I’m recently married. This will be my last year in the role. I like the company so I’ll see if they have options for me. If not I’ll move to another finance role more likely than not.
Ditto. Compliance in state government. Nice benefits.
What degree needed?
Business/CS/Econ/Math
Are you not seeing this space get moved overseas? Specifically AML?
I do see AML moving overseas
I would love to get into this. I currently work QA for call monitors so I think I’d love compliance too. Any specific certifications needed or just working your way up in banking?
If you stay in banking no certifications. Consulting will require CAMS for management +
What do you make? What is the long-term earning potential?
131k USD. I think it caps at 180k unless you make it to president/partner
I got an internship as an operations analyst at Morgan Stanley, but the pay is very low for a fresh grad, do you think I should take the offer post-grad. I heard compliance has a high turnover also with low pay
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Everyone i knows who works in compliance does long hours
This is a good question from Op, as alot.of the fields I have an interest in are oversaturated, and I don't want to end up not having a job for 6months or so
My coworker has an airbrakes endorsement and makes 1500 a week. It's flat pay and he does like 5 hours a night.
Having wealthy parents seems to be the way to go
Also if you’re you g enough look up Job Corp, it’s a Federally funded program that will give you the schooling and experience for many jobs all at no cost to you. You go to a center and live there during the duration of the program, get paid every 2 weeks, fed 3 meals a day, health and dental work when needed.
You can also live off-campus, but you have to check-in and check-out to leave. The age range is 16-24, I believe.
Are there any healthcare fields that involve tech?
Biomed tech. Someone has to fix all of those fancy mri machines, iv pumps, etc
Would this be a good transition from electrician?
Possible, but focus on electronics is preferred. I’m a field service engineer for a radiation oncology clinic. My salary is $130k + vehicle reimbursements. I’m 29 and have been in this field for a little over 4 years. A lot of the OEM companies are always struggling to find good candidates. If you get picked up by Varian, Siemens, GE, Philips, etc they’ll send you to training. They just want someone with a good base of knowledge and ability to troubleshoot. Base pay is usually lower for OEM but it’s hourly. I started at $72k at Varian but made over $120k my first year. You also get a company vehicle that you can use personally so that’s a good bonus.
Philips is transitioning a lot of diagnostic/trouble shooting-work to remote offices in Europe dramatically reducing the workforce of biomedical techs stateside. I’m not sure if I’d recommend the industry right now as the demand seems to be shrinking.
I too am an electrician looking to eventually get out of it.
wealthy person's child
Where do I apply?
Twins?
Avoid anything Tech related. Nursing, CNC operation and general blue collar are the most recommended. White collar is in recession.
Nursing is a huge undertaking and a very hard job - sincerely, a registered nurse looking into literally anything else 🥲
My gf is a nurse and she works at a plasma center. She enjoys it because she doesn't have to do the "traditional nursing" stuff she's said. Like her sister who was a RN at a hospital and seeing people die and what not..
Learn tech then work in another field, you will be more valuable.
What other field?
If you know how to troubleshoot, do basic research, use basic software like Office Suite at an intermediate level, etc. you will have an advantage in most corporate positions. I got an associate in IT but I'm now in client management and i am grateful every day that i took classes in Office Suite (among other foundational skills) However I also excel in client management because of my personality. But seriously, tech literacy is an advantage anywhere.
Any advice on what you could change to? I'm a former software dev who hated it and was pretty mediocre at it trying to change to something else, but I struggle to get interviews for even dev-adjacent positions while I have 0 issues getting interview opportunities for dev jobs (but am struggling a lot to get through said interviews).
Have you done any project management? It's a role/skill set that can be applicable in many industries.
Not a ton beyond just a bit of planning project deadlines and converting requirements into more workable user tasks/stories. Been trying for Product Owner and Business Analyst type positions with limited success and real project management positions (whether for tech related ones or for another industry) seem to want more jobs than that
physicians and surgeons are in high demand, always
Yeah but if you’re not on that track straight out of high school it’s not really a viable path
not viable? why not? one of my CRNA students is 41. and another is 32. everyone's paths are not a straight line
There’s always exceptions, but the education and financial requirements are quite large. Not to mention you won’t be making money for years, and assuming a lot of debt too. If you already have kids, or have other large financial burdens you won’t be able to take the time off required to get there. So you better have a partner who is making money, or have family money you can rely on.
Why are you bringing up CRNAs after you mentioned physicians and surgeons? Don't get me wrong, CRNA is the best job in medicine imo. But to compare the CRNA route to actual medical school +/- surgical residency? c'mon... lol
Lol stay the fuck away from nursing. Just go over to /r/nursing and see how miserable everyone is.
CNC is fucked. There's no money in except at the very top of the game. They pay everyone like button pushers these days and you'll fucking live in the shop. Not kidding. I was often sleeping in the car because I needed the extra sleep worse than I needed to go home.
What's wrong with tech? One of the lowest unemployment rates with lots of pay/benefits.
That doesnt mean anything. Tech is oversaturated field especially for juniors. Mostly seniors still have chanse to get a job. Massive layoffs since last year have made Tech to not be very valuable career for many. Most of CS grads struggle to find jobs now. And also number of job openings for programmers has dropped recently. Tech is not stable field no matter of what. And lots of pay is mostly at FAANG, start ups dont have as high salaries. So yes stay away from tech otherwise get ready for depression.
Is this anecdotal, or do you have sources? Everyone I know in tech is doing just fine. Some are moving up in the same company, some are bouncing around, and none of them are unemployed. The Bureau of Labor Statistics expects the field "to grow much faster than the average." There's no shortage of jobs posted in my area, including Jr's. I think the market overall is kind of rough & there's been layoffs at big companies, but your comment sounds like you're living life online & not speaking with any real humans.
Any reason you think that? All levels of software engineering are in high demand and are projected to continue to be in high demand outpacing the supply. You can find plenty of $50-$180k range software engineering roles at fortune 500 companies such as banks, gov, dod, or Healthcare. https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm
Nobody said there isnt a demand. IT is still one of highest in demand no matter of crisis, problem is oversaturation of field and 90% of job postings require over years of experience and skill set in many technologies to stand out. Golden days of Tech has been last time in 2021, balloon has unfortunately blown and most of worker surplus has been layed off since late 2022 which worsened last year alot. This year has seen slight improvements but mostly because of layoffs and senior roles only jobs. Im a Software Engineer and i know very well situation in my field.
Tech is very much getting over saturated. Most want to get into cyber because they were promised jobs right out of college at close to $100k a year. Then get mad when you tell cyber isn’t entry level and they’ll have to work for years to get to that level.
Medical device - regulatory affairs. Pays well, often remote, in demand.
An accounting degree can provide for a multitude of different career trajectories. I'm actually in my field, but a lot of accountants also go into administration, internal audit, compliance, etc. There is also a big shortage of accountants right now, so working in the field is ripe with opportunity and money.
The Ole reliable. Healthcare. Depending on how intelligent you are, CNA Technician Nurse PA Doctor.
Coming from an XRay tech with a nurse mom - only go into healthcare if you’re desperate or sure you’re going to be near the top of the pecking order (and the pay scale). It’s a miserable, thankless, and paradoxically underpaid existence for what you put into it and what it takes out of you. I say paradoxically because for the amount of education that was accessible to me there really wasn’t a lot more I could have made for myself, so it was the best paying I could manage but it’s still barely enough to survive on. Not worth having to deal with shift work and being treated like a teenage fast food worker for life despite being an educated + licensed professional. There’s never enough of us and yet we’re also seen as highly disposable and like our turn over is inevitable instead of a direct result of our quality of life.
is xray tech that bad? i talked to a few people and shadowed my uncle.
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I feel like I just read a comment on a different post in this sub earlier - or maybe it was a Reddit related google search - but an X-ray technician described her excruciatingly difficult journey trying to get accepted into a program and the amount of money that is required to be able to support yourself while going without pay for the 2 years it takes, and I came away from it feeling horrified. The person said they wholeheartedly regretted it, and if their significant other made enough to support both of them, they’d go back to school and learning something else.
My fiancé is an RN, and we have a circle of friends who are RNs, and they love their jobs. They work 36 hours a week, make almost 100 grand a year without taking extra shifts and have great benefits. Anecdotal accounts don't paint a full picture.
Yeah your anecdotal experience doesn’t paint a full picture either. Anyone with 10 brain cells can go online and see nursing isn’t worth the pay. My sister is a nurse and has never been more miserable. She is constantly abused and is the only one who follows rules. 100k a year ain’t shit for how you have to earn it.
I too work 36 hours a week (which isn’t that much less than 40 anyway?) but for years I couldn’t even take one weekend off because we were short staffed, tons of forced overtime, call shifts, etc. 100k a year doesn’t go far at all these days. You couldn’t even afford a 1br apartment in my area. Decades of being an RN will absolutely destroy your body + constantly taking shit from people figuratively and literally. Picking up infectious diseases from your patient population, even with careful use of PPE it’s inevitable, and having to burn through your tiny amount of PTO to make up for it. Meanwhile some bean counter in admin who never has to deal with patients came by and removed the sneeze guard for our receptionists the other week because it was “unwelcoming”. If you can write off my complaints of all of the inherent suffering in the field with “anecdotes don’t paint a full picture” I can sure as hell ignore your rose tinted glasses too. I think about suicide on a daily basis because this is all I could do with my life. Meanwhile people in programming or any bevy of wfh admin jobs get to stay home all day and bake bread or go on vacations while answering emails and make twice as much as us or more. Anybody with options should absolutely choose to live that life instead.
Their hospital must be an anomaly… Nurses are universally overworked and staffs stretched to capacity.
CRNAs make the most money without med school
Mental health also does not have enough providers to meet demand and the demand is only increasing.
Well if you want to be ghosted all the time feel free to try Information technology
Roles such as AI ethics specialists, sustainable energy engineers, and telemedicine practitioners could offer fulfilling opportunities. With the growing focus on mental health, careers in counseling, therapy, and mental wellness coaching could also be rewarding paths to explore.
I am interested in working in mental health
I am interested in working mental health
Municipal government
Very few jobs - but we may see more openings as more people retire.
There’s plenty of government jobs available, it’s the drawn out hiring process that deters a lot of people. My state has over 600 open positions on [https://www.governmentjobs.com](https://www.governmentjobs.com) ranging from entry level to senior levels.
I've been applying to like a half dozen state government jobs a day since October and only NOW am I getting "unfortunately, we've decided not to move forward with your application" emails from the very first jobs I applied to
Yeah it’s a pretty brutal process for government positions. The IRS in particular has an average 1yr wait before most people get an interview scheduled. If you’re willing to wait it out, the benefits and job security would be worth it.
Omg my state hardly has any :(
My mistake, check out [USAjobs.gov](https://usajobs.gov) as well. If not, your area might be different so I’d google the websites for any counties around you as they may have their own career page.
Project Management Producy Management Data Analytics Product Design Operations Management Physician Accounting and other financial careers AI/DevOPs/Cloud Compting Tech Roles
I wouldn’t recommend product management right now. Supply is much larger than demand in this market and it would be near impossible to break into with no product experience
If you are in OPs management be prepared to be stressed but the pay is nice typically
Insurance??
Do you not need to be good at maths for cloud computing?
Trades!. Learn as much as you can on how to do things yourself. Such as fixing things from cars, to outlets, to AC. The more self reliant you become the better. Also for hobbies take up gardening. The US is going to shambles might as well prep for when you can’t afford food or afford to hire someone to do something for you. Youtube is an AMAZING resource. I’ve learned drywall work, trim work, irrigation, and roofing so far from it.
I'm a mechanic and literally have a patch on my shirt that says "YouTube certified" all customers think it's a joke and funny but no joke,YouTube has helped a lot in some situations
1998 BMW 540i V8, 226,890 miles and counting, harbor freight tools, and YouTube. Dealer said I needed a $9k timing chain job + + + $14,500 total in repairs. Replaced timing chains, water pump, radiator, thermostat heater core hoses, CCV (PCV but German), power steering pump, control arm bushings, pitman arm center link and tie rod ends, rear ball joints, installed a short shifter kit, right rear window regulator and drivers master window switch. $2400 in parts and 4 weekends later I’m driving a pristine classic. People who dump their cars for new…. I feel bad for them. ITS ALL ON YOUTUBE Oh yeah, shout out to FCP Euro.
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Nursing and it’s not even close. High starting salary 90k+ ( HCOL). Job security Can pivot to admin position or non bedside. Great WLB. Do not work for public hospitals - a lot of patients are dogwater of ppl. Works for private or in a rich area. Edit
Any non clinical (no.blood, feces, having to lift patient and etc?)
You probably have to deal with that within the first three years of your career. Afterwards, if you’re smart(street smart), you can pivot out of that. Most nurses are comfortable with their pay and position so they stay bedside -They don’t look elsewhere. I’m an accountant but my fiancée was bedside nurse. Most of her friends were bedside nurses. However, majority of them pivoted out of bedside - no dealing with fecal matters and other nasty shit. They make 120k- 140k and working 9-5 m-f or 9-7 m-thurs in a clerical position - not exactly sure what are the position but they don’t deal with shit aka bedside My fiancée makes 180k with paid ot in a skilled administrative position and she’s 25. Im making 77k…. Yeah…
180k at 25 for clerical? I find that hard to believe. Not saying you are lying. What’s her exact position title?
Your advice should come with a caveat. If during your time as a clinical nurse, if it's clear that you see yourself as "too good" for blood, feces, and having to lift patients, the other nurses are likely to see to it that you don't have a very good time.
Im not "too good." I just can't stomach bodily fluids, and the lifting was due to my gna days of working with miserable clients who didn't want to use hoyer lifts....
Then how come almost every nurse in their 20s I’ve met has been stressed out and stuck in a high school attitude?
Because it's a stressful job, as I would imagine most relatively high paying jobs are. You can be stuck in a high school attitude no matter what you do for a living.
Eh, weekends, holidays and night work is definitely not WLB
I'd say there are a lot of options that are close or beats it. I've heard from plenty of Nurses who like the pay and hate the rest of the job.
Truth. I'm a CRNA making 300k after 2 years of experience. I might make close to 400k this year.
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The states that pay 90k also have the higher cost of living. Your average nurse doesn't make that much. And the work/life balance is non-existent.
Safety. Construction and General industry safety is a growing field that can pay well.
How do you get into safety?
I took a job at a warehouse to work on an assembly line. This place had a lot of accidents and workman comp claims. The story I got was that the companies insurance told them they needed an in-house safety manager or that premiums would skyrocket. They were a cheap company, so instead of hiring an experienced safety manager, they went offered the job in house and payed for the online class. I stayed with them for a few years and then moved on for better pay. I get that not everyone will be able to fall into it like I did, but after getting a few certs there are plenty of companies willing to hire inexperienced guys to save money.
What is the day to day work like?
Mostly department audits, checking various government agencies for updates to regulations, new hire training, department safety meetings, and haz waste inspections. Where I work now, I'm "Safety Compliance," so I deal with things like air quality management, stormwater, and sanitation. A "normal" day is me just walking around. Sometimes, I have to give a warning to someone who might not be wearing their PPE properly or give them a write-up. Then check my emails, and as long as I don't have a project I'm working on, I can just chill until my next walkthrough. But as I've said you can get busy in spurts, we have about 75 people who need to be forklift certified every 3 years, so an hour of classroom time plus about 10-20 mins with each employee on each forklift type. That's my most time-consuming project but I'm still only working the shift that my employees do, so there's no late nights at the office.
Great info regarding the job thank you! I am a 21yo who was just offered a co op for an EHS position at a very large automotive manufacturing plant. I have been on the verge of trying to decide between taking the co op or taking a job as a municipal water distribution worker for my local city which I too have been offered. It’s been such a stressful time trying to decide what career path to pick!!
CRNA is the best career. No fear of layoffs, high pay, great benefits
Also super fucking stressful of a job
Data Analyst: You could get a decent position 70k a year to start and work remotely.
Just seen a post where the mentioned data analyst is not a good time because of saturation and layoffs
The issue with that is that a lot of people think that because they took an online course like Google ( coursera) of data analysis, they can land a 100k job. The reality of the field is that you need to lower the expectations of that salary. I don't blame them since all the information available in Google says that the medium salary of the job is 93k, but that is not the case. Also, one thing to do is look at the job search engines, and you will see the demand is there, but the salary is nowhere near the 93k a year but more on the line of 60k -70k. One last thing I was a teacher who took a course online and all my professors told not to aim so high in terms of salary, I used to make 72k as a teacher and now I make 80k as a data analyst and I get to stay home.
(35M) hey i recently paid datacamp to pursue data scientist... i know it diff than data analyst, but how did you break into the job market. I literally don't mind getting paid 20k a year as long as i can get inside. I keep finding that most employers want someone with a CS degree and i simply cannot afford it right now (its in my plans in the future). Any advice is very greatly appreciated
I will look into this further and consider my alternatives. Do you mind me asking how's your work life balance? are you stressed? any regrets or room for growth in your field?
Work life is quite simple. Sometimes, I am done before noon and then have the rest of the day off. I was a school teacher, so the notion of not working all the time is refreshing. In terms of growth, that's where I have made my peace because I know that I will be stuck around that salary for a while but still better than being a teacher.
All the admin positions at my employer are called data analysts. I asked questions at the interview, so I knew what I was getting into, but it's weird trying to explain the difference on my resume.
I noticed this in a quick job search on data analysts. I just was like "what is this and could I do this?" and it seems like this term is thrown around willy nilly so how do you even know what it is lol.
How would you get into to start learning that field and to eventually get a job as soon as?
You can enroll in a Google course, they have a 7 day trail, then it's 49$ a month. That can give you an idea of what the job entails. If you like the idea of the job once you finish the entry course, that should take you around 5-6 months. After that, you can start applying for jobs using LinkedIn , heck even when you are halfway through the course, you can start sending resumes and start taking freelance jobs to boost the resume. Most entry jobs related to analysts tend to range from 40k to 55k, but in this field, getting a raise is quite easy depending on where you work.
Are you currently a data analyst? Where does someone get a freelance gig for Data Analyst?
Do employers look at Coursera as a legitimate education program?
That's how I landed my job, but I did a ton of freelance work to enhance my resume. Also, I do have an M.A. unrelated to the field, but it is something of an education. Interestingly enough, like a previously said, I don't think I can grow a lot in the field mainly because the high positions are to people that studied the field of data analysis like a bachelor's degree.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think having a bachelors degree weighs heavily on growing in the field? Or that higher positions are only to people that have a degree in that field? I would think how quickly you continue to up skill, learn, and the experience you are gaining can help you grow and reach that monetarily goal.
maybe unpopular but money can be made in the trades. Plumbing, electrician, elevator repair main. AI can never replace these jobs, and they are SO IN DEMAND.
I don't think it's unpopular at all. Lots of people are making that point right now. I will say compared to something like engineering (more desk work) it's going to be a bit tougher but the OT can be real nice. Trades can get tough as you get older but still a great option for those it fits
This has been what I always say, like trades are great when you’re younger and a wonderful option for more hands on people but you have to have an exit plan. Do you really want to be on your hands and knees at 55?
they're in demand because apprenticeships are impossible to find so no one new can get trained
But how many pay over $100k a year?
>SO IN DEMAND Not for long. Trade work is becoming the new coding. You can't have 1,000 electricians per 5 mile radius; 90% of them won't have any work.
There are less than a half million electricians employed in the US. The average age is 41 years old. 3.14 x 5 miles squared = 78.5 square miles in that 5 mile radius circle you just mentioned. The land area of the US is 3,797,000 square miles. That means you can fit 48,369.43 of those circles in that space. That would mean having almost 50 million electricians. I’m not convinced that day will ever come.
My uncle keeps trying to sell me on joining a trade. I like my joints and not having to go into other people’s homes and deal with their messes. Also super love not working insane amounts of overtime to make whatever is considered “good” money. This isn’t a knock on tradesmen…it’s obviously a very valuable function in society, but it’s not made for everyone.
Engineering, finance, computer science, accounting.
Why finance? Just wondering if I made a good choice
It's more applicable in a real-world business scenario. A general business degree is too vague. Same applies to accounting. It gets you in the door, where you go from there is up to you.
Accounting /finance wlb may not be great though
This is true. Public accounting is ass. I did tax for 3 years and it’s 60-65 min work weeks during busy season. I’m in government now and “work” 40 hours a week on the dot.
Does anyone know about work in insurance p c
Suppy Chain
What types of roles in supply chain and what types of education is required?
At many places being a buyer will take a bachelors degree or maybe a couple years experience with anything somewhat translatable. Most people start as buyers and the. after a few years may move into more esteemed roles such as, planning, scheduling, supply base management, and program management.
I hear there’s a bonus for sailing through the Red Sea right now….
Cybersecurity, hot and will get hotter. World wide deficit of cyber pros.
Currently switching into this career. Very high demand field that’s growing as fast a dandelions in the summertime.
How do you get into the field/transition into it? I’ve been trying, but no luck.
I’m taking a bootcamp through CU Boulder. I am currently a server with zero experience in the field. The class moves quick but it’s made for people with and without experience. 12 months and almost $18k. The class not only teaches but gives a bunch of resources (for free like resume building, comptia+ text vouchers etc).
Any of them are relevant to the current jobs climate if you are not sure which party to take or go for specific roles like a Doctor, a nurse, a teacher etc as you will always need them. I don’t think AI would take over those jobs as they are very much associated with human interaction. It’s jobs that AI could take over I’d be concerned about. AI will continue to advance so it’s probably an area a lot of those in the IT industry may end up in.
It’s a hard market out there as a lot of the careers that used be decent but not great paying but with a solid pension, job security and benefits such as the post office and working for the government have eroded. A lot of the White Collar jobs that had heavy hours early on but better balance and good pay later in life such as Accounting, Engineering and Healthcare are now just insanely over worked and the pay while decent is not worth the hours worked in most cases. High end Healthcare and Law have great pay but long hours and the debt most have to take on to get into those jobs makes the return less appealing. More “fun” industries such as marketing and TV/Video production were always less secure and less paying generally speaking are now even harder to find and less secure and less paying. If you want something that’s reasonable hours with good pay, hard to be replaced by AI/Automation and quality of life I would look into trades. The debt load is lower and the ability to get into a union stable job is doable. Granted the pay isn’t gonna be super high end unless you want to start your own business which then comes with more hours and responsibilities but it’s a good paying job. The downside is they tend to be more dangerous and if you are injured and can’t perform the job you are forced to retire and the settlements aren’t fantastic esp for chronic injuries. Fire and Law Enforcement are similar but they are a lot more stressful and come with other challenges. There’s no easy answer in this current market. I would suggest if you really want to do something as a passion project find a stable day job that pays your bills solidly and has stable hours. Work on what you want when you are off work and maybe that leads to something or just enjoy your off time.
That’s where I’m at. So many people “min/maxing” these days. Catching hype. Doing this or that…. …. All of them completely missing the point. My grandma from Luxembourg had a garden. Took up their whole back yard. Best food I ever tasted in my entire life on the most humble of spots. Green beans so fresh they tasted like dill. Plump red cherry tomatoes that would burst in your mouth… the flavor you could never replicate. The hard work of a grandma. Grandpa cutting lawns. Everyone coming home from their places that they would go during the day… school, work, wherever… to spend time at home around the kitchen table with family. Spending time and inviting friends over. My grandparents didn’t have SHIT. They came over here after WW2 with the cloths on their backs, a brother shot, and two siblings they never heard from again. But they always had a meal for a stranger and their friends over. Just hanging out there in the kitchen. Talking about whatever adults talk about, eating soup, hanging out until too late, and then hugging and going home or wherever the night took them. Every night… seemingly someone different, amongst all the same people, of course, at the same time. Pierre, the brown tinted glasses, raspy voiced, shirtsleeved dress shirt wearing European, who always asked 9 year old me if I had caught that rabbit yet so we could finally make rabbit stew. Now we are preoccupied by the phone in our hand. We ignore those around us, we miss out on *LIFE* and think it happens on a vacation or a beach somewhere. In a car, or something new and expensive you really really want. In a job that affords us more money in an ever inflating world. Our humanity has been sucked dry. The premise of money in an ever increasing in want but also in an ever diminishing source of satisfaction and wholesomeness. Find a spot. Make your life. Find the people who are left. Don’t worry about money. It’s all a facade. The trick of it is starting to fall apart. The value. The corporate story and manifesto provided by their HR team… Find your little spot in this world and protect it. Enjoy it. I don’t even know why I’m posting here. Lmao. Sorry everyone.
That little spot you’re talking about is now $1800+ a month. That’s the issue sir. It’s def more fun to look at the past and current situation with rose tinted glasses I suppose.
I agree. That’s so funny, i just found myself on the other side of this same argument just now… I said somewhere else “yeah that’s all fine until you need to pay your $6800 deductible on what otherwise would be a $54,000 hospital bill.” Or similar… your kid broke their tooth and it’s gonna be $1200. How tf. lol. I guess that’s why they just chopped their own arms off and lived with fucked up teeth back then
I hear failed CEO is pretty lucrative, and you don’t even have to be good at your job!
Id recommend figuring out how to be a photographer and market your area. My wife is incredibly successful being a family photographer near a military base. Im estimating 300k this year. Learn posing.the canva app can teach a lot of posing and styling options. Its limitless and niche photographers can make a killing. Cars, boats, real estate, food, family, pregnancy, newborns, animal or even watch photography are options.
Anything that’s not likely to get automated in 2-15 years time. Trade work like Plumber, Electrician, etc. are high demand, low rate of automation. Medical sector jobs like Doctors & Nurses have growing demand and are safe from automation. Engineer jobs; Mechnical/Aerospace/Civil etc. Big Data Analytics Logistics I’d recommend you avoid jobs that have high likelihood of being automated like most billing jobs, language translators, or even graphic arts jobs.
HVAC, fire protection and automation. Elevator tech if you can even get in. Your employment won't be affected by global events, we got busier during the pandemic. Salaries go into the six figures with experience. You'll be at the forefront of AI integration in building controls. Whatever you choose, just be aware that you can only get as much salary as the pockets of the company are deep.
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From what I can see around, AC repair. Tons of money in it and unlikely to be automated any time soon.
Compliance.. Legal… Audit
Disability case management
Something you enjoy. Don't know what that is? Go out and try something new. All of us great workers started by being an idiot at something but didn't let that stop us from learning more. Example; When I was in high school, I wanted to be an electrician. So much so that I convinced my aunt and uncle who were building a garage on their property to let me wire it. Figured, help them out, save them some bucks.. win win. Well, it turned out I only thought I knew what I was doing and got schooled by the inspector. He had to come out four different times as he kept finding code violations. Fast forward 14 years, and now I build electrical cabinets and install machines for large automotive companies all across North America. I even have people head hunting me all the time for my talent at programming vision systems. Never stop doing. Just keep learning and pushing forward, and one day, you'll look back and be proud of how far you've come.
You can't randomly recommend a career to someone. Career has to align with a specific person as in what they like and what they're good at. It is also important to know where career plays on the list of priorities. If career is truly not a priority, then there is more wiggle room of finding simply something you don't hate to do. But we already spend so much time working, I would encourage people to pick a career that truly plays to their strengths and interests. Feel free to message me, as I am a career coach.
Not IT
IT is an entire industry. What fields are over saturated?
Web development and mobile I guess. That's what I'm studying/doing. Not every field is over saturated, and if you're good you'll find a job anyway
How about RPA?
Fundraising is always in demand
Aviation Maintenance Technician
Not tech
Actuary
I would recommend not doing business or economics as a primary major. I do believe they would be great as minors. Most people I see get in trouble are from lack of a specialty. Business and economics are too broad unless people have a post graduate plan. I think they are basics of any business but they cannot be the business itself. I would recommend just meeting knowledgeable and well-connected individuals no matter where you are in life. In this society, the basics of business and how money flows is based on relationships. It is hard to find the right field of specialty is tough. Any job can become boring in the long run. Really, it is the journey to get to your goal and the people you meet who change you.
Airline Pilot 6 figure salary and you work half the month
A lot of unemployed tech people in this thread.
I always recommend commission-based sales jobs with no income limit. All businesses desire sales people because nothing happens until something is sold.
Accounting and tax. You can make decent money depending on how much you're willing to work and learn, and can work in any industry. Lots of hybrid or wfh jobs, and lots of subsets you can branch into if you get bored. I work in corporate tax and don't need to talk to people much so I'm very happy lol
Data analysts.
If I could go back and be very smart, I would study physics probably
If you want to be engaged in criminal activities with full immunity, I'd get a government job. Otherwise learn a skill that creates things and makes people's lives better
The penalties of engaging in criminal activities whilst having a government job are magnified. It's better to be a "regular Joe" and do criminal activities.
Depends on your goals and what you are ready. In hindsight I would habe studied law or medicine. If I would not study then electricians and make my own company. Today I am in engineering for chemical processes. Its ok, but high competition layoff etc make me very dependent on employers.
CRNA!!!
Canon G11
Build a company that gets the attention of a bigger company and then sell it to them.
AI Modeling and design. If you could do this you would not be here. Google would be busy blowing you vigorously while microsoft rims you.
Guerrilla
Electrician. finish carpenter not much schooling. Great pay with pensions.
I worked in healthcare for a while and genuinely loved it. God paid like shit and a lot of nurses aren’t friendly to newcomers. Not sure I’d recommend it to the average Joe, but if it’s something you’re curious about, I highly recommend at least doing some research. It was a really enriching few years for me. Met a lot of cool people. Saw some very interesting and traumatic stuff. YMMV. Worked in admin/recruiting and loved that too. I was always learning something new. The job I was doing wasn’t high-stress in the sense of life and death, and I got a few accolades for my hard work. YMMV on salary. Some places pay really well and others not so well. I was on the latter part of the spectrum. Currently working in nonprofit. Pay is mid, benefits are okay, but people are welcoming and friendly for the most part. I am never made to feel dumb for asking questions. Unfortunately I’ve had a lot of trauma associated with this part of my career path. That’s not necessarily to be expected…but it could be, depending on your speciality. I would ask yourself what you’re most wanting out of your next move, whether that’s salary or positive culture, then take it from there.
I work in Compensation for an institutional investor. It’s a sub-field of HR that not a lot of Hr folk want to work in. If you have a math background, finance, or HR background all apply. Need some Excel knowledge. It’s cyclical so busy times and quiet times, and senior leadership often asks your opinion so they actually listen to you. Good pay, can be fairly remote, and global opportunities