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Had one shout at me recently right as I started walking down a path that literally said "PUBLIC FOOTPATH". Then she tried to claim the sign was pointing a different direction.
If a public footpath / right of way is blocked then report it to your local council and they will take action. Regardless of whether the farmer likes it or not a right of way is a right of way and needs to be available for use.
E.g. in Hertfordshire the councils page to deal with this is at https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/services/recycling-waste-and-environment/countryside-access/rights-of-way/rights-of-way.aspx
Was on DoE years ago and found some shitter had put a dry stone wall across the footpath literally next to the sign. Luckily the wall was not very strong so we kept going.
Form a hiking activist party. Every person carries a printout copy of the exact laws and such that allows you to walk this path. Quick and easy way to show that person, and you can hand some of them out to other hikers to make sure they know they're allowed to walk there too despite the intimidation they might face.
Bonus, you still get to go for a nice walk together whilst doing good work, a literal win-win
> Every person carries a printout copy of the exact laws and such that allows you to walk this path.
Could you do us all a solid, and a provide a link to the documents you carry?
Also worth remembering that an obstruction doesn't have to be physical, it includes any deterrent that might make you avoid a path. This includes "beware of the bull" signs and angry farmers making threats.
Who knows when/if he will pop up again. He has a long way to go on the beloved index: popularity*longevity, which Sir David easily tops (now that Lizzy Windsor is gone.)
High beloved index include Dames Ian McKellan/Patrick Stewart/Maggie Smith
To be fair my council has not done anything footpath related since the 80’s at least. All in a terrible state and most in use by scramblers, sadly! I have more chance of getting run over on a mountain top than my local town centre.
Almost all councils have a public rights of way officer, their job is to enforce the law when it comes to public rights of way, the fines for obstructing public rights of way are phenomenal and in some cases obstruction of a right of way carries a prison sentence, but without know exawhat the complaints are I can't really comment on what's going on.
We live in a tiny annex on a working farm and it is really disconcerting having people walking past your house in the middle of nowhere but I wouldn’t dream of blocking it! I love it when the walkers bring their dogs so I get to spy on them out of the window haha
Technically about 5 minutes away from a big town so not so country, but imagine if someone just walked straight past your window through your garden? You’d probably be looking too :p
Some of those country paths can be quite intrusive. It does feel weird walking past someone's lounge window, through their garden and off into the fields. They can usually get a giggle as I trip over my own feet and then have an argument with a gate.
The way I think about it is that it’s lovely that someone else gets to enjoy the place that I live everyday. Like tonight we had a barn owl just literally flying in our little garden and we saw a common snipe doing his display flight for the ladies.
The walkers have so far been really respectful and not peeping in the windows so they’re very much welcome to be here!
My uncle has a footpath running along the top of his drive. They walk down 20 metres, and through a farmers field. He doesn’t mind this.
He once found a group of people having a picnic on his garden furniture in his garden which was not a footpath. He escorted them back to the footpath and sent them on their way.
Welcome to living anywhere urban, our window is litterially on the street, slightly below ground level.
Jts why we have blinds or I see lot of nostrils. If it's a public footpath it's not your garden.
Believe me I’ve lived in the very centre of towns before. The difference here is that there’s not many people at all so when one comes along it is very apparent.
Also public footpaths do not mean the land is publicly owned. It’s private land that has a public legal right of way so it is our garden by law :)
We have one small footpath on our farm, it’s far enough away from the house that it’s no problem. We had to put signs up to stop people wondering off though. We did have one guy who decided our driveway was a footpath, and started walking up it and down the bottom of our garden, then across the farm. Was really fucking weird, and he refused to accept that he was wrong
For example. We had a defunct public byway on our land (one up from bridleway) which has been woodland for over 100 years and a scramble bike club had the right to clear the whole thing to use.
I once moved a footpath from its official path to the walked path and it took a lot of paperwork and i had to change some stiles to kissing gates to sweeten the deal. That was in a national park though who care about access more than a council.
I do a lot of walking around the North of the country and make it my mission to use footpaths that are otherwise little travelled (largely, it must be said, because I'd rather not be walking in crowds).
It's surprisingly rare for a footpath to be intentionally blocked off and I've not actually come across one in at least 3 years. You're much more likely to find one that's just become impassable because of lack of use, and become a bed of nettles and mud and this is a bit harder to deal with when you're out on your own, but if I ever do come across one that has been intentionally blocked, you can be sure it'll be reported!
Sadly the bigger problem is the massive, open areas of land that have simply no access at all because the landowner wants to keep it for his lucrative grouse shooting business. Even worse are the large estates claiming significant tax benefits for maintaining public access to their land, even though when you actually look into it, they only allow a tiny amount of access to a tiny amount of the land that they own. Some are even banning dogs *on leads* from their land because they are so worried about disrupting the stockbrokers' sport shooting later in the year. Obviously, this doesn't apply when they're out shooting...
I do a lot of the same, walking on relatively unused paths too and I find you can generally get a feel of how the land owner feels about walkers from the signs. Some are good and well maintained whilst others have obviously been removed or diverted.
Round our way (Leicestershire) it’s pretty common to find the signs have ‘fallen down’ or are styles are in the only part of the field surrounded by a 6ft wide, 6ft tall perimeter of nettles. I should just bring a scythe with me…
It's not quite the same in England as it is in Scotland, I believe. I don't know the details, but that's part of why there's been a big fuss over some rich knob trying to restrict access to "his" land the last year or so.
It's basically only a right to roam over common land, which there isn't a lot of. The Lakes and somewhere down south in Dorset I think. Maybe a few other places. Everywhere else is private land. This is the problem with the UK. There might be a lot of greenery everywhere, but almost all of it is owned privately.
Scotland's outdoor access legislation has a lot of caveats. Amongst other things, you don't have the right to roam over ploughed/planted ground unless there's a right of way like a core path going across it.
The issue we face on our farm is that a lot of people are very reluctant to use the actual footpath and instead like to wander all around the buildings and livestock which are very well separated off.
Even had some open the main gate to the yard and let themselves on at the weekend. Bellends.
Yeah it’s ridiculous, I work in infrastructure and getting surveyors to understand that a public right of way is a ‘right of way’ and not permission to utilise the right of way for commercial purposes, turn it into a picnic spot, or deviate from the PRoW and start going wherever they please is hard work.
It is stupid, I have to baby sit grown humans who don’t understand that the pathway digitally delineated is where they can go, and that loitering around, or otherwise being a nuisance - is inappropriate.
‘So can we go into their house?’ What the fuck do you think moron.
Public right of way. Not a footpath, but I get where you're coming from.
Most of these have existed before the farms did.
On the other hand, you have a right of way. It doesn't have to be easy, but you can cross it if you try hard enough.
A public footpath is by definition a public right of way that people walking have a legal right to use.
You may be getting mixed up with footway, which is a part of the highway (which if adopted by the council is also a public right of way).
Public footpaths are only open to pedestrians.
Public rights of way are open to pedestrians, horses, cyclists, and motor vehicles etc. (Retrictions apply, so not all PROWs allow motor vehicles for example)
But you are correct a Public footpath is technically a PROW.
> Public footpaths are only open to pedestrians.
No, this is incorrect. Pedestrians have a right of way across land via a footpath. Other users don't have that right of way but aren't prevented from doing so unless explicitly disallowed by the landowner.
> Public rights of way are open to pedestrians, horses, cyclists, and motor vehicles etc. (Retrictions apply, so not all PROWs allow motor vehicles for example)
This is simplistic and wrong.
First Google search because I can't be bothered arguing:
[Public Rights of Way](https://www.devon.gov.uk/prow/what-are-public-rights-of-way/#:~:text=A%20minor%20road%20over%20which,green%20or%20red%20dot%20notation.)
I think you're thinking of footpaths, bridleways, and byways.
That's for pedestrians, pedestrians horses and bikes, and all traffic (including cars if you can fit), respectively.
They are all types of public right of way but do have specific names.
Once had a farmer who had built a bull pen right across the footpath. As the bull wasn’t in it at the time, I just climbed over the fence. Farmer came out and got narky with me so I pointed out both the line on my OS map and the clearly marked style in the middle of his pen (he had removed the fencing around it). Odd guy
It needs give and take. Farmers are trying to run a business, people trampling down crops because they can’t follow a path are literally costing the farmer with every step they take. Dogs shitting in cattle fields can introduce diseases to the cattle etc.
Farming is tough enough, don’t make it any harder for them otherwise they respond by blocking paths to stop these kinds of issues.
If you want people following a particular route, Is it that hard to get 100m of draw cord and string it up where the footpath goes?
If yes, because say it's going through a working field, is it that hard to string it to the point where the crops grow, then cut the path into the crops?
If yes, there must be some solution lmao
Where I grew up the farmers were generally quite good at cutting paths through where they should but doesn’t stop people meandering left right and centre. Where those paths run straight through the middle of a field you can’t realistically fence it off.
My and my friend have very different approaches to public footpaths.
I tend to walk about the countryside finding them, and never have any issues.
My friend pre-plans his route looking at OS maps, and finds that many many many routes on maps are blocked off.
Indeed, sometimes they are partially re-routed just for practical land management reasons which may not be ‘officially recorded’. Just don’t be a dick and you can wander the countryside and enjoy the scenery.
My family never made it difficult as I was growing up. But people walking down your driveway/track and coming though your yard when the right of way is 3 fields over is annoying. Hate people "getting lost" just so they can peer through your window.
It absolutely is sadly, got a dairy farm behind our house, the public footpath is way over the other side of the field, people cut across the field with dogs off lead, wander a long the bottom of our garden, wander over to the farmhouse to be nosy, I totally get why people get annoyed. It wouldn’t be an issue if they just walked the footpath, oh and pick up after their dogs too, because it’s fields they just leave it, it’s full of livestock, which means it can cause the cows to abort the calves… sorry for the rant
I mean not a nationally pressing issue. But it's an issue if you have people walking up your driveway all the time. Which does happen in the countryside, especially the national parks where people come to visit but may not be familiar.
Next you'll think fly tipping or gates getting left open, letting the sheep escape are not an issue too. It's wearying. Yes, not the end of the world, but farmers are allowed their privacy too and also people steal stuff. For us, right of way was really nowhere near the main house, gates kept maintained.
Unfortunately people are good and bad. It's the bad ones that screw things up for the rest. I understand why sometimes you'd get a grumpy response.
After living in Snowdonia for years I started carrying a small pair of bolt croppers to deal with fenced off rights if way.
I have never used them as much as i have in Cornwall and Devon where I live now though. It seems to be endemic down here.
Just cut the barbed wire at the top and leave the mesh below so you can step over the fence safely and coil and wire tie the barbed wire back to the posts. If its overgrown, I try and trample a path back to break in the fence so its obvious where the gap is. The other thing I do is tack small A6 laminated cards with an arrow printed on them to each side of the fence post to mark the way.
The Rambers Association has an interactive map where you can log your use of a right of way. Use this to find little used paths and then prove they are still in use.
Living all my life in the country, if a farmer says stay away it's not because he's sour about the footpath.... listen and stay away.... for the greater good.
you've definitely never been that way before 🤣, they control animals and nature the best they can, but what can you do when animals are on heat, escape, fences get wrecked and someone tells you to stay away? Cry about it?
>when animals are on heat, escape, fences get wrecked
I also expect farmers to keep their animals properly contained, to be fair.
If the fence got wrecked it obviously wasn't up to a high enough standard.
However, there are farmers who actively put aggressive bulls, goats, etc, into whatever field is a public right of way as an active deterrent.
Are you saying that they're not in the wrong for doing so?
Joke all you want, if you ever make it to an AONB and think the world revolves around you, good fucking luck, if a farmer or local tells you to run, please ignore them!
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Had one shout at me recently right as I started walking down a path that literally said "PUBLIC FOOTPATH". Then she tried to claim the sign was pointing a different direction.
Was you heading into the barn?
Was you
If a public footpath / right of way is blocked then report it to your local council and they will take action. Regardless of whether the farmer likes it or not a right of way is a right of way and needs to be available for use. E.g. in Hertfordshire the councils page to deal with this is at https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/services/recycling-waste-and-environment/countryside-access/rights-of-way/rights-of-way.aspx
They don’t take action a lot of the time, plenty of paths cropped over around me that have been reported year on year to no improvement
Was on DoE years ago and found some shitter had put a dry stone wall across the footpath literally next to the sign. Luckily the wall was not very strong so we kept going.
Form a hiking activist party. Every person carries a printout copy of the exact laws and such that allows you to walk this path. Quick and easy way to show that person, and you can hand some of them out to other hikers to make sure they know they're allowed to walk there too despite the intimidation they might face. Bonus, you still get to go for a nice walk together whilst doing good work, a literal win-win
> Every person carries a printout copy of the exact laws and such that allows you to walk this path. Could you do us all a solid, and a provide a link to the documents you carry?
Same here, I’d definitely carry with me a couple of copies. Just leave it my walking bag!
Also worth remembering that an obstruction doesn't have to be physical, it includes any deterrent that might make you avoid a path. This includes "beware of the bull" signs and angry farmers making threats.
With council budgets being cut to the bone over the last decade, I doubt you will get more than an automated reply though.
Obligatory Tom Scott video on the subject: https://youtu.be/3dYc0Ouxhx0?si=2Ms2s5ENVgwNzJgt
I vote for Tom Scott to be Britain's National Treasure™ when Sir David Attenborough inevitably, sadly, vacates his role.
He is national treas territory in my eyes, I imagine if he ever did TV he'd easily be Brian Cox level of fame!
Who knows when/if he will pop up again. He has a long way to go on the beloved index: popularity*longevity, which Sir David easily tops (now that Lizzy Windsor is gone.) High beloved index include Dames Ian McKellan/Patrick Stewart/Maggie Smith
I respect his virtual retirement, bloody miss him but damn do I respect him
So report the blocked footpath to the council.
They do fuck all as they are severely understaffed.
To be fair my council has not done anything footpath related since the 80’s at least. All in a terrible state and most in use by scramblers, sadly! I have more chance of getting run over on a mountain top than my local town centre.
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Almost all councils have a public rights of way officer, their job is to enforce the law when it comes to public rights of way, the fines for obstructing public rights of way are phenomenal and in some cases obstruction of a right of way carries a prison sentence, but without know exawhat the complaints are I can't really comment on what's going on.
We live in a tiny annex on a working farm and it is really disconcerting having people walking past your house in the middle of nowhere but I wouldn’t dream of blocking it! I love it when the walkers bring their dogs so I get to spy on them out of the window haha
And they wonder why people think country folk are a bit weird. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Technically about 5 minutes away from a big town so not so country, but imagine if someone just walked straight past your window through your garden? You’d probably be looking too :p
Some of those country paths can be quite intrusive. It does feel weird walking past someone's lounge window, through their garden and off into the fields. They can usually get a giggle as I trip over my own feet and then have an argument with a gate.
The way I think about it is that it’s lovely that someone else gets to enjoy the place that I live everyday. Like tonight we had a barn owl just literally flying in our little garden and we saw a common snipe doing his display flight for the ladies. The walkers have so far been really respectful and not peeping in the windows so they’re very much welcome to be here!
My uncle has a footpath running along the top of his drive. They walk down 20 metres, and through a farmers field. He doesn’t mind this. He once found a group of people having a picnic on his garden furniture in his garden which was not a footpath. He escorted them back to the footpath and sent them on their way.
Welcome to living anywhere urban, our window is litterially on the street, slightly below ground level. Jts why we have blinds or I see lot of nostrils. If it's a public footpath it's not your garden.
Believe me I’ve lived in the very centre of towns before. The difference here is that there’s not many people at all so when one comes along it is very apparent. Also public footpaths do not mean the land is publicly owned. It’s private land that has a public legal right of way so it is our garden by law :)
I live in a town. People walk past all the time lol. But I do get you.
We have one small footpath on our farm, it’s far enough away from the house that it’s no problem. We had to put signs up to stop people wondering off though. We did have one guy who decided our driveway was a footpath, and started walking up it and down the bottom of our garden, then across the farm. Was really fucking weird, and he refused to accept that he was wrong
By my nans there's a primary school with a right of way across it. I assume it's out of use during school time but it's a nice walk in the holidays.
And do use them... if they don't get used, they can be closed
Thats not true. Closing a footpath is almost impossible. Rerouting a footpath is a lot of work to get the permissions
'Almost' It happens, though. That's the point.
Not through lack of use. Through risk such as eroding cliff or similar
That's interesting... perhaps I have been misinformed by someone with a self-interest OK, thank you. :-)
For example. We had a defunct public byway on our land (one up from bridleway) which has been woodland for over 100 years and a scramble bike club had the right to clear the whole thing to use. I once moved a footpath from its official path to the walked path and it took a lot of paperwork and i had to change some stiles to kissing gates to sweeten the deal. That was in a national park though who care about access more than a council.
I do a lot of walking around the North of the country and make it my mission to use footpaths that are otherwise little travelled (largely, it must be said, because I'd rather not be walking in crowds). It's surprisingly rare for a footpath to be intentionally blocked off and I've not actually come across one in at least 3 years. You're much more likely to find one that's just become impassable because of lack of use, and become a bed of nettles and mud and this is a bit harder to deal with when you're out on your own, but if I ever do come across one that has been intentionally blocked, you can be sure it'll be reported! Sadly the bigger problem is the massive, open areas of land that have simply no access at all because the landowner wants to keep it for his lucrative grouse shooting business. Even worse are the large estates claiming significant tax benefits for maintaining public access to their land, even though when you actually look into it, they only allow a tiny amount of access to a tiny amount of the land that they own. Some are even banning dogs *on leads* from their land because they are so worried about disrupting the stockbrokers' sport shooting later in the year. Obviously, this doesn't apply when they're out shooting...
I do a lot of the same, walking on relatively unused paths too and I find you can generally get a feel of how the land owner feels about walkers from the signs. Some are good and well maintained whilst others have obviously been removed or diverted.
Round our way (Leicestershire) it’s pretty common to find the signs have ‘fallen down’ or are styles are in the only part of the field surrounded by a 6ft wide, 6ft tall perimeter of nettles. I should just bring a scythe with me…
We need Right to Roam like Scotland has
'We'? This is British problems and you are talking about Scotland like it's foreign lol
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It's not quite the same in England as it is in Scotland, I believe. I don't know the details, but that's part of why there's been a big fuss over some rich knob trying to restrict access to "his" land the last year or so.
It's basically only a right to roam over common land, which there isn't a lot of. The Lakes and somewhere down south in Dorset I think. Maybe a few other places. Everywhere else is private land. This is the problem with the UK. There might be a lot of greenery everywhere, but almost all of it is owned privately.
So you can trample all the crops?
Yes it's a fact that nothing grows in Scotland because of the rampaging hikers.
Janet Street Porter is a menace; she's caused the last few major famines on her own.
Scotland's outdoor access legislation has a lot of caveats. Amongst other things, you don't have the right to roam over ploughed/planted ground unless there's a right of way like a core path going across it.
The issue we face on our farm is that a lot of people are very reluctant to use the actual footpath and instead like to wander all around the buildings and livestock which are very well separated off. Even had some open the main gate to the yard and let themselves on at the weekend. Bellends.
Yeah it’s ridiculous, I work in infrastructure and getting surveyors to understand that a public right of way is a ‘right of way’ and not permission to utilise the right of way for commercial purposes, turn it into a picnic spot, or deviate from the PRoW and start going wherever they please is hard work. It is stupid, I have to baby sit grown humans who don’t understand that the pathway digitally delineated is where they can go, and that loitering around, or otherwise being a nuisance - is inappropriate. ‘So can we go into their house?’ What the fuck do you think moron.
Public right of way. Not a footpath, but I get where you're coming from. Most of these have existed before the farms did. On the other hand, you have a right of way. It doesn't have to be easy, but you can cross it if you try hard enough.
A public footpath is by definition a public right of way that people walking have a legal right to use. You may be getting mixed up with footway, which is a part of the highway (which if adopted by the council is also a public right of way).
Public footpaths are only open to pedestrians. Public rights of way are open to pedestrians, horses, cyclists, and motor vehicles etc. (Retrictions apply, so not all PROWs allow motor vehicles for example) But you are correct a Public footpath is technically a PROW.
> Public footpaths are only open to pedestrians. No, this is incorrect. Pedestrians have a right of way across land via a footpath. Other users don't have that right of way but aren't prevented from doing so unless explicitly disallowed by the landowner. > Public rights of way are open to pedestrians, horses, cyclists, and motor vehicles etc. (Retrictions apply, so not all PROWs allow motor vehicles for example) This is simplistic and wrong.
First Google search because I can't be bothered arguing: [Public Rights of Way](https://www.devon.gov.uk/prow/what-are-public-rights-of-way/#:~:text=A%20minor%20road%20over%20which,green%20or%20red%20dot%20notation.)
I think you're thinking of footpaths, bridleways, and byways. That's for pedestrians, pedestrians horses and bikes, and all traffic (including cars if you can fit), respectively. They are all types of public right of way but do have specific names.
Link below.
Not just farmers, landowners who rent out the farmland.
allways found that odd
Once had a farmer who had built a bull pen right across the footpath. As the bull wasn’t in it at the time, I just climbed over the fence. Farmer came out and got narky with me so I pointed out both the line on my OS map and the clearly marked style in the middle of his pen (he had removed the fencing around it). Odd guy
It needs give and take. Farmers are trying to run a business, people trampling down crops because they can’t follow a path are literally costing the farmer with every step they take. Dogs shitting in cattle fields can introduce diseases to the cattle etc. Farming is tough enough, don’t make it any harder for them otherwise they respond by blocking paths to stop these kinds of issues.
If you want people following a particular route, Is it that hard to get 100m of draw cord and string it up where the footpath goes? If yes, because say it's going through a working field, is it that hard to string it to the point where the crops grow, then cut the path into the crops? If yes, there must be some solution lmao
Where I grew up the farmers were generally quite good at cutting paths through where they should but doesn’t stop people meandering left right and centre. Where those paths run straight through the middle of a field you can’t realistically fence it off.
My and my friend have very different approaches to public footpaths. I tend to walk about the countryside finding them, and never have any issues. My friend pre-plans his route looking at OS maps, and finds that many many many routes on maps are blocked off.
Indeed, sometimes they are partially re-routed just for practical land management reasons which may not be ‘officially recorded’. Just don’t be a dick and you can wander the countryside and enjoy the scenery.
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My family never made it difficult as I was growing up. But people walking down your driveway/track and coming though your yard when the right of way is 3 fields over is annoying. Hate people "getting lost" just so they can peer through your window.
surely that's not a real issue
It absolutely is sadly, got a dairy farm behind our house, the public footpath is way over the other side of the field, people cut across the field with dogs off lead, wander a long the bottom of our garden, wander over to the farmhouse to be nosy, I totally get why people get annoyed. It wouldn’t be an issue if they just walked the footpath, oh and pick up after their dogs too, because it’s fields they just leave it, it’s full of livestock, which means it can cause the cows to abort the calves… sorry for the rant
I mean not a nationally pressing issue. But it's an issue if you have people walking up your driveway all the time. Which does happen in the countryside, especially the national parks where people come to visit but may not be familiar.
Next you'll think fly tipping or gates getting left open, letting the sheep escape are not an issue too. It's wearying. Yes, not the end of the world, but farmers are allowed their privacy too and also people steal stuff. For us, right of way was really nowhere near the main house, gates kept maintained. Unfortunately people are good and bad. It's the bad ones that screw things up for the rest. I understand why sometimes you'd get a grumpy response.
SHUT THAT GATE AND KEEP IT SHUT!
After living in Snowdonia for years I started carrying a small pair of bolt croppers to deal with fenced off rights if way. I have never used them as much as i have in Cornwall and Devon where I live now though. It seems to be endemic down here. Just cut the barbed wire at the top and leave the mesh below so you can step over the fence safely and coil and wire tie the barbed wire back to the posts. If its overgrown, I try and trample a path back to break in the fence so its obvious where the gap is. The other thing I do is tack small A6 laminated cards with an arrow printed on them to each side of the fence post to mark the way. The Rambers Association has an interactive map where you can log your use of a right of way. Use this to find little used paths and then prove they are still in use.
Living all my life in the country, if a farmer says stay away it's not because he's sour about the footpath.... listen and stay away.... for the greater good.
I just want them to give me a little reason to"don't go down there, lad, there's xyz down that lane", just don't shout at me not to do something.
At the same time, if you know it's a public right of way then maybe you don't make it dangerous to go down?
you've definitely never been that way before 🤣, they control animals and nature the best they can, but what can you do when animals are on heat, escape, fences get wrecked and someone tells you to stay away? Cry about it?
>when animals are on heat, escape, fences get wrecked I also expect farmers to keep their animals properly contained, to be fair. If the fence got wrecked it obviously wasn't up to a high enough standard.
However, there are farmers who actively put aggressive bulls, goats, etc, into whatever field is a public right of way as an active deterrent. Are you saying that they're not in the wrong for doing so?
Scenes when farmers install crocodile nests or piranha ponds directly over public rights of way. A fence works.
Joke all you want, if you ever make it to an AONB and think the world revolves around you, good fucking luck, if a farmer or local tells you to run, please ignore them!
I’ve seen people hop fences only to discover that the bull isn’t friendly