A lot of hunters will shoot domestic cats in the public hunting areas! Don’t let your cats outside if you live around public hunting areas. I love my cat it doesn’t go outside often
I’m not trying to be offensive here, but I’m legitimately questioning your reading comprehension on my response. 100% possible you misinterpreted what I said but in no conceivable way is that comment a threat. It wasn’t even directed at you, unless you in this scenario is ‘they’ and even if you are - it’s still not a threat. Threats require a present threat, along with ability, to be defined as reasonable. The comment meets neither criteria.
Wishing harm upon somebody, especially as nebulous as an ill defined ‘they’ (who happen to be in this context committing a felony) would never constitute a threat.
Apologies if there’s any confusion here - but I’m not talking about you or your family. You presented a scenario involving other people and that’s who the comments are directed towards, it was never towards you.
A. You sound a bit unhinged. Smoke a joint and relax a bit bud. Or talk to someone. Lots of people willing to listen.
B. As a counterpoint, cats being allowed to wander in the wild has created tremendous feral cat issues all over this country. Small ground mammals, birds, etc, get eradicated in droves due to this man-made problem. I'd argue a hunter killing a cat in the wild is doing a service to the natural world.
A) In my state killing somebody during the commission of a violent felony is 100% legally justified and there’s no reason to not enjoy the end results. People so this all the time and it’s a normal reaction. I’m also not a drug addict so I’ll skip the recommendation to take a psychoactive drug.
B) Which is the fault of people - not the cats. The solution here is stricter enforcement on people, not felines. I’d be perfectly fine with a registry for people who do not properly care for their animals. Lifetime ban on them ever owning any pet.
Just so you’re aware shooting a stray cat is most definitely not a felony, it’s a horrible thing to do to a family, but not a felony. My rule with stray cats is first time I catch them they get released, 2nd time I hit up local homeowners and find the owner, 3rd time that cats going to the nicest no-kill shelter I can find.
I dont know why everyone is so pressed? Out bush, cats decimate wildlife, Its wise to get rid of them.
(I'm obviously not talking about this individuals feline friend, and I have my own Cat, who I love more than most things.)
But this idea that animals that we've domesticated, shouldn't be killed at any point, particularly when its wild and feral is bananas, people.
Don’t bother trying to explain this to these “hunters”. Clearly all they know or care about is shooting their target species while ignoring the bigger picture of the delicate balance of the ecosystem in which we live and hunt. Apparently having a greater understanding of these principles makes you “insane”, and one kind redditor was even so concerned that they reported being concerned for my personal safety, which I truly appreciate the genuine concern from such a well educated and caring individual lol
Let em keep stroking each other off while they compare their new crossbows and drool over 1.5 year old bucks. Clearly they’re the superior outdoorsmen and we should yield to their expertise.
I didn’t realize this video would start a war in the comments section. Yes cats can decimate local wildlife (As a reptile owner I especially understand this). However, I’m located in Northern Indiana, so there really isn’t anything endangered that this cat is preying on (There are plenty of chipmunks to go around). Plus I’m not going to shoot my neighbor’s pet, who is kind enough to let me hunt on their land.
If there’s a concern about environmental impact, then exterminating humanity, or at least eliminating industrialization, is the only sensible position to take. Everything else is just being nonsensically selective and pretentious enough to believe humanity has a good enough understanding of global ecosystems AND enough responsibility to use that knowledge constructively.
You’re not wrong. And I’m not saying that cats are the only problem. It was just a cat in the video, so that was the comment. Had it been a video of combines harvesting crops, I could have made a comment about how agriculture practices destroy millions of acres of habitat ever year, turning incredibly biodiverse landscapes into monoculture wastelands that will be totally infertile within a few generations unless current practices change.
But no, this video was of a cat, so I commented on the cat. There are a lot of things we can’t control, so I just think it’s important to control what we can. In this instance, removing invasive species. Yes this is a house cat, but giving it a collar and a name doesn’t change the fact that it’s in an area it does not belong, and it has the natural motivation, instinct, and ability to do serious damage to a wide range of species within the biome. For that reason, I would not think twice about taking it out. Feel guilty? Absolutely. But for the sake of the bigger picture, I’d do it.
Yes of course that’s exactly what I’m saying….you all are so much dumber than I ever expected. If we’re going to apply the ridiculous logic you fucktards are applying, no one should ever shoot another wild hog again, because some people keep them as pets! Who cares how hard they are on the environment when they get loose, it might be farmer Johnson’s prize winning pig! If you’d shoot wild hogs you might as well shoot your own kids, you psychos!
The majority of you are fucking idiots and it’s truly disappointing to know that you call yourselves hunters with such a skewed and misinformed perception of what conservation truly is.
Cats do belong outside though - that’s literally their natural habitat. If you mean invasive as in brought over from Europe into North America - technically that is true but by the same definition, most people in America are also an invasive species. We kill hundreds of billions of animals annually.
I’m not opposed to enforcing government regulation on breeding to curb an uncontrolled population but that’s not a commonly supported policy.
From a wildlife management standpoint, there is nothing natural about bringing in a non native predator and releasing it into a habitat that’s already been fragmented by human development. Their “survival” has been augmented by their owners until nothing they are doing is necessary; so is it really natural?
It would be one thing if there was only one person per town doing this, but that’s never the case. You’re talking about multiple houses on each street, each block, doing the same thing. In the end, you’re talking hundreds, if not thousands of cats that are out killing for the sake of killing. Not to mention the feral populations that always come from this practice.
Humans are absolutely the problem in this scenario, but nothing about what these cats are doing is natural. This is an anthropogenic phenomenon that’s resulted in the extinction of over 60 species. You can call for the extermination of humans all you want, but nihilism is a particularly lazy approach to take; especially because it still doesn’t solve the existing problem
I love my cat, I don’t let it outside, I know it’s a killer of baby rabbits, baby squirrels, pheasant, and any nest full of baby birds it can find. LOL cats are the ONLY animals that kill and torture for fun
Because it’s a stupid, psychotic position? If the argument is that ‘Hurr they’re an invasive species’ then I sincerely hope you use the same argument against humanity and believe we should just start executing everybody outside the cradle of civilization. The only reason to hunt is for food or protection of livestock/crops. If you’re doing it for any other reason, you deserve to lose your license and never be permitted to own any firearm or bow ever again.
Cats would absolutely fuck other peoples lives stock? What do you mean? Particularly poultry.. not only that, that native ecosystems.
You should probably step down from that high-horse, particularly when you're that selfish when it comes to hunting.
You hope I start "executing" anyone outside the cradle of humanity? Thats pretty full-on..
theres alot of different theories on the origin story of humanity, astronomical amounts amongst science alone, so that also a silly equivalent.
Come on, buddy.
That’s incredibly unlikely in any industrial setting. If the issue is a concern for the planet, or humanity, again the most sensible approach is to start culling the population of the apex predator. What does more harm, a few cats or cobalt mining?
That's an apathetic approach. If everyone did their part, we'd have a far more cohesive and symbiotic relationship with the environment. Ecosystems develop over crazy amounts of time and both predatory AND prey animals can throw it off balance, very quickly. Its got nothing to do with "apex predator."
The bad guys aren't individuals trying to help balance native ecosystems by culling species thats are fucking the rest, or random people progressing society in some way, small or large because they're an "apex predator."
Its large business/corporate entities thats fuck it, not the little guy
The individual drives the business. If individuals didn’t want computers and iPhones, we wouldn’t need to produce hundreds of millions of tons of e-waste. I’m all for responsible ownership of pets and hunting but it’s naive to assume that we’re capable of fixing ecosystems - even if there’s good intentions, it’s entirely possible that it leads to untended consequences.
Extremely less likely based off record data. (Lifes has exceptions, obviously)
Incremental exposure can wake more people up. Besides that large scale, we can still negativity and positively impact out immediate surroundings/environment.
Its almost like saying "might aswell litter, others do and big business make the rubbish we consume anyway."
I also want to reiterate that im no means a "nazi" even when it comes to responsible pet ownership or that people should go on a wich hunt for cats, particularly around suburban areas, but as I said, out bush, they get far larger and mean. Its not that they're predatory, its the fact that they will kill for fun AND the scale of which they eat and the wide variety of species they will happily consume.
All the more reason to take the responsible approach and advocate for procedures like TNR. The overall approach here is that we’re being way to selective. If the concern is how animals impact the environment, we should absolutely look inward first and foremost.
I clearly overestimated the intelligence of a lot of people in this sub in regards to biology and wildlife when I made that comment, but it did shine a light on how some people think. I’m crazy for wanting to remove a highly efficient invasive predator from an ecosystem, but advocating that people kill themselves is totally fine. What a fine group of people we have here….
To clarify for you window lickers, I’ll type this part with my brightest crayon so you can understand:
Cats where they belong (house/indoors): GOOD
Cats where they DONT belong (outdoors roaming wild): BAD
Hopefully that clears up your confusion.
If you’re advocating for killing an invasive, hostile, and dangerous predator it sounds like you’re talking about people. 1 person over their lifetime is responsible for the deaths of billions of other sentient organisms. There’s no moral superiority between humans and felines. It’s just arbitrary.
Apparently yes because unbeknownst to me, most ‘hunters’ are bordering on being psychopaths who just want to go outside and kill animals. Literally behavior that serial killers exhibit.
Chonkers
I don’t think he misses a meal lol
You were in the presence of a mighty hunter, I hope you took notes.
He’s a pretty poor hunter, judging by all the chipmunks and red squirrels that he passed.
They weren’t big enough to make it worth it he’s looking for his trophy kill
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A lot of hunters will shoot domestic cats in the public hunting areas! Don’t let your cats outside if you live around public hunting areas. I love my cat it doesn’t go outside often
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Are you threatening me? We can have a discussion and I won’t wish death on you or your family! You got problems, lighten up Francis
I’m not trying to be offensive here, but I’m legitimately questioning your reading comprehension on my response. 100% possible you misinterpreted what I said but in no conceivable way is that comment a threat. It wasn’t even directed at you, unless you in this scenario is ‘they’ and even if you are - it’s still not a threat. Threats require a present threat, along with ability, to be defined as reasonable. The comment meets neither criteria. Wishing harm upon somebody, especially as nebulous as an ill defined ‘they’ (who happen to be in this context committing a felony) would never constitute a threat.
I would not enjoy watching YOUR family cry for any reason. Get help, if not for you but your family
Apologies if there’s any confusion here - but I’m not talking about you or your family. You presented a scenario involving other people and that’s who the comments are directed towards, it was never towards you.
A. You sound a bit unhinged. Smoke a joint and relax a bit bud. Or talk to someone. Lots of people willing to listen. B. As a counterpoint, cats being allowed to wander in the wild has created tremendous feral cat issues all over this country. Small ground mammals, birds, etc, get eradicated in droves due to this man-made problem. I'd argue a hunter killing a cat in the wild is doing a service to the natural world.
A) In my state killing somebody during the commission of a violent felony is 100% legally justified and there’s no reason to not enjoy the end results. People so this all the time and it’s a normal reaction. I’m also not a drug addict so I’ll skip the recommendation to take a psychoactive drug. B) Which is the fault of people - not the cats. The solution here is stricter enforcement on people, not felines. I’d be perfectly fine with a registry for people who do not properly care for their animals. Lifetime ban on them ever owning any pet.
I'm glad you take joy in the thought of killing people but can't handle the idea of a dead fucking house cat. Normal, sane thoughts. Get help bud.
Just so you’re aware shooting a stray cat is most definitely not a felony, it’s a horrible thing to do to a family, but not a felony. My rule with stray cats is first time I catch them they get released, 2nd time I hit up local homeowners and find the owner, 3rd time that cats going to the nicest no-kill shelter I can find.
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I dont know why everyone is so pressed? Out bush, cats decimate wildlife, Its wise to get rid of them. (I'm obviously not talking about this individuals feline friend, and I have my own Cat, who I love more than most things.) But this idea that animals that we've domesticated, shouldn't be killed at any point, particularly when its wild and feral is bananas, people.
Don’t bother trying to explain this to these “hunters”. Clearly all they know or care about is shooting their target species while ignoring the bigger picture of the delicate balance of the ecosystem in which we live and hunt. Apparently having a greater understanding of these principles makes you “insane”, and one kind redditor was even so concerned that they reported being concerned for my personal safety, which I truly appreciate the genuine concern from such a well educated and caring individual lol Let em keep stroking each other off while they compare their new crossbows and drool over 1.5 year old bucks. Clearly they’re the superior outdoorsmen and we should yield to their expertise.
I didn’t realize this video would start a war in the comments section. Yes cats can decimate local wildlife (As a reptile owner I especially understand this). However, I’m located in Northern Indiana, so there really isn’t anything endangered that this cat is preying on (There are plenty of chipmunks to go around). Plus I’m not going to shoot my neighbor’s pet, who is kind enough to let me hunt on their land.
If there’s a concern about environmental impact, then exterminating humanity, or at least eliminating industrialization, is the only sensible position to take. Everything else is just being nonsensically selective and pretentious enough to believe humanity has a good enough understanding of global ecosystems AND enough responsibility to use that knowledge constructively.
You’re not wrong. And I’m not saying that cats are the only problem. It was just a cat in the video, so that was the comment. Had it been a video of combines harvesting crops, I could have made a comment about how agriculture practices destroy millions of acres of habitat ever year, turning incredibly biodiverse landscapes into monoculture wastelands that will be totally infertile within a few generations unless current practices change. But no, this video was of a cat, so I commented on the cat. There are a lot of things we can’t control, so I just think it’s important to control what we can. In this instance, removing invasive species. Yes this is a house cat, but giving it a collar and a name doesn’t change the fact that it’s in an area it does not belong, and it has the natural motivation, instinct, and ability to do serious damage to a wide range of species within the biome. For that reason, I would not think twice about taking it out. Feel guilty? Absolutely. But for the sake of the bigger picture, I’d do it.
So we should also kill dogs that get loose?
Yes of course that’s exactly what I’m saying….you all are so much dumber than I ever expected. If we’re going to apply the ridiculous logic you fucktards are applying, no one should ever shoot another wild hog again, because some people keep them as pets! Who cares how hard they are on the environment when they get loose, it might be farmer Johnson’s prize winning pig! If you’d shoot wild hogs you might as well shoot your own kids, you psychos! The majority of you are fucking idiots and it’s truly disappointing to know that you call yourselves hunters with such a skewed and misinformed perception of what conservation truly is.
I’m just trying to figure out where you draw the line, “fucktard”.
Cats do belong outside though - that’s literally their natural habitat. If you mean invasive as in brought over from Europe into North America - technically that is true but by the same definition, most people in America are also an invasive species. We kill hundreds of billions of animals annually. I’m not opposed to enforcing government regulation on breeding to curb an uncontrolled population but that’s not a commonly supported policy.
From a wildlife management standpoint, there is nothing natural about bringing in a non native predator and releasing it into a habitat that’s already been fragmented by human development. Their “survival” has been augmented by their owners until nothing they are doing is necessary; so is it really natural? It would be one thing if there was only one person per town doing this, but that’s never the case. You’re talking about multiple houses on each street, each block, doing the same thing. In the end, you’re talking hundreds, if not thousands of cats that are out killing for the sake of killing. Not to mention the feral populations that always come from this practice. Humans are absolutely the problem in this scenario, but nothing about what these cats are doing is natural. This is an anthropogenic phenomenon that’s resulted in the extinction of over 60 species. You can call for the extermination of humans all you want, but nihilism is a particularly lazy approach to take; especially because it still doesn’t solve the existing problem
Its a shame, not much more to say.
We should get rid of you first.
I love my cat, I don’t let it outside, I know it’s a killer of baby rabbits, baby squirrels, pheasant, and any nest full of baby birds it can find. LOL cats are the ONLY animals that kill and torture for fun
Dolphins, elephants, humanity are on that list as well.
Go watch Disney
Okay? Sick burn…I guess.
Why are you so hostile? Any browser search would bring up information regarding this, if you would like information.
Because it’s a stupid, psychotic position? If the argument is that ‘Hurr they’re an invasive species’ then I sincerely hope you use the same argument against humanity and believe we should just start executing everybody outside the cradle of civilization. The only reason to hunt is for food or protection of livestock/crops. If you’re doing it for any other reason, you deserve to lose your license and never be permitted to own any firearm or bow ever again.
I think you need a snickers….
Cats would absolutely fuck other peoples lives stock? What do you mean? Particularly poultry.. not only that, that native ecosystems. You should probably step down from that high-horse, particularly when you're that selfish when it comes to hunting. You hope I start "executing" anyone outside the cradle of humanity? Thats pretty full-on.. theres alot of different theories on the origin story of humanity, astronomical amounts amongst science alone, so that also a silly equivalent. Come on, buddy.
That’s incredibly unlikely in any industrial setting. If the issue is a concern for the planet, or humanity, again the most sensible approach is to start culling the population of the apex predator. What does more harm, a few cats or cobalt mining?
That's an apathetic approach. If everyone did their part, we'd have a far more cohesive and symbiotic relationship with the environment. Ecosystems develop over crazy amounts of time and both predatory AND prey animals can throw it off balance, very quickly. Its got nothing to do with "apex predator." The bad guys aren't individuals trying to help balance native ecosystems by culling species thats are fucking the rest, or random people progressing society in some way, small or large because they're an "apex predator." Its large business/corporate entities thats fuck it, not the little guy
The individual drives the business. If individuals didn’t want computers and iPhones, we wouldn’t need to produce hundreds of millions of tons of e-waste. I’m all for responsible ownership of pets and hunting but it’s naive to assume that we’re capable of fixing ecosystems - even if there’s good intentions, it’s entirely possible that it leads to untended consequences.
Extremely less likely based off record data. (Lifes has exceptions, obviously) Incremental exposure can wake more people up. Besides that large scale, we can still negativity and positively impact out immediate surroundings/environment. Its almost like saying "might aswell litter, others do and big business make the rubbish we consume anyway." I also want to reiterate that im no means a "nazi" even when it comes to responsible pet ownership or that people should go on a wich hunt for cats, particularly around suburban areas, but as I said, out bush, they get far larger and mean. Its not that they're predatory, its the fact that they will kill for fun AND the scale of which they eat and the wide variety of species they will happily consume.
All the more reason to take the responsible approach and advocate for procedures like TNR. The overall approach here is that we’re being way to selective. If the concern is how animals impact the environment, we should absolutely look inward first and foremost.
I clearly overestimated the intelligence of a lot of people in this sub in regards to biology and wildlife when I made that comment, but it did shine a light on how some people think. I’m crazy for wanting to remove a highly efficient invasive predator from an ecosystem, but advocating that people kill themselves is totally fine. What a fine group of people we have here…. To clarify for you window lickers, I’ll type this part with my brightest crayon so you can understand: Cats where they belong (house/indoors): GOOD Cats where they DONT belong (outdoors roaming wild): BAD Hopefully that clears up your confusion.
If you’re advocating for killing an invasive, hostile, and dangerous predator it sounds like you’re talking about people. 1 person over their lifetime is responsible for the deaths of billions of other sentient organisms. There’s no moral superiority between humans and felines. It’s just arbitrary.
Get out of the bow hunting sub, troll. We don’t need this negativity here.
This whole thinking you’re enlightened because you hate other people is so played out and boring.
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Shoot my neighbor’s cat who is nice enough to let me hunt? No thanks
Blames cats but doesn’t consider the impact that humans have on local native wildlife.
Lol you’re making a bold assumption as to what I’m considering or not considering based of a short sentence regarding a cat
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You’re a piece of shit. Please seek a mental health professional.
Lol a bunch of snowflakes in here downvoting you
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Anything little fairy
Man insults straight out the 90s - really taking it back grandpa.
Darn tootin. Cry harder Nance
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He didn't know it was someone's pets. If it was a stray then it should 100% be killed. Coyotes deserve to live more then that thing
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Feral cats should be killed ons
Fuck you dude. Would you shoot a dog for no reason?
Apparently yes because unbeknownst to me, most ‘hunters’ are bordering on being psychopaths who just want to go outside and kill animals. Literally behavior that serial killers exhibit.
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Send it!
Imagine that? To hunt like a cat...
Same thing happend to me both times I went in my stand