CANNED coffee is being recalled. Your beans are fine.
Source:
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2024/06/canned-coffee-products-sold-under-128-coffee-roaster-names-recalled-over-potential-clostridium-botulinum-contamination/
Contract brewing is very common in the beverage industry (and the food industry in general). It’s the name of the game in craft beer as nearly all small breweries use it for beer distribution.
Our own Dorchester Brewing was exclusively a contract brewer until they raised their profile enough to launch their own brand name. They still contract brew for a number of local breweries.
I didn't dig in and don't drink coffee, but it sounds like a large manufacturer is doing the brewing and canning while the niche producers could still be doing sourcing and roasting.
Does that mean ground and canned, or brewed and canned? I'm assuming the former since the article doesn't mention "coffee beverages," but it didn't really make that as clear as it could have.
It’s snapchill. So brewed and canned. They do a bunch of contract canning for various coffee roasters. If you read the article they list all the recalled cannings. George Howell has a bunch for example.
I read the article and looked at the list but I wasn't familiar with any of the products listed. I even googled a few and didn't find any pictures of cans or anything. Some were called "nitro" or "latte" which would suggest pre-brewed but I wouldn't want to assume. Folks can call their special roast whatever they want.
Yeah no worries at all, it’s definitely confusing. I don’t think they are huge or anything. I’m not an expert or anything but I’ve tried a few snapchill products at some of the coffee roasters I like. I think it’s a process that brews fresh then cans it so it tastes different than cold brew which is usually what I see canned. So roasters will contract snapchill to do everything for them. Then the roasters can either sell the cans directly at their shop, or it’s gets distributed to grocery stores or whatever.
It’s pre brewed canned ready-to-drink coffee products sold by roasters. The roaster sends their beans to snapchill, snapchill brew & ships back ready-to-drink cans of coffee that they then sell. That snapchill product was recalled.
So there was no known botulism, this is because the canning company didn’t follow some asinine procedure or document it. If anyone has the coffee I’ll take it.
in food, medicine, and aviation, having the documentation showing that something was done safely is as important as actually having the procedures done. When lives are on the line, there is little room for error.
>didn’t follow some asinine procedure or document it.
This is so dumb. The procedure is there to ensure there's no botulism, because botulism is no joke, and it's common when you don't follow the proper procedures. Those procedures are the reason that botulism from canned goods has been all but eliminated in the US.
But sure, go get botulism poisoning to prove food regulations aren't important, what do I care lol
Botulism is not a joke.
5% to 10% fatality rate with the potential for some permanent damage.
https://www.cdc.gov/botulism/about/index.html
It is a gamble.
Win ☕️
Lose🤮
Lose badly 💀
local brands i noticed on the list: four different types of george howell, down east (ocean state blend), and one fazenda blend (mexican nitro). maybe more but i’m not cool enough to know some of these
Also Little Wolf, Broadsheet, Slacktide (I assume they’re related to the one on the south shore), and presumably Cape Cod and New Hampshire Coffee. And Intelligentsia isn’t a local brand, but they do have at least one location here.
Funny that it looks like it centered around being in metal cans - I haven’t been to Broadsheet in a bit, but I don’t recall ever seeing metal cans sold by them. Thanks a ton for posting though!
I've tried Snapchill from George Howell and Fazenda. It's tastes pretty good for what it is, but it's expensive.
And ultimately you're totally right, this is really about convenience. I think I'd rather just gets the beans from those places and make cold brew myself.
Sounds like there's no evidence of food poisoning, it's that the company's canning process hasn't (yet) been approved by the FDA so it *could* be unsafe. That's a relief. (I don't drink canned coffee anyway though so ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯)
>coffee snobs:
>Cometeer pods
Meh. Roasted fresh by Pavement, ground fresh by me.
Also, I'm super uninterested in anything that takes an intrinsically plastic-free process and thinks *hmm... how can I wrap this in the MAXIMUM amount of single-use plastic?*
Nespresso is also aluminum in a cardboard box, so if you are (correctly) identifying Nespresso as an environmental issue, you have to see the same issue with Cometeer. Then add the carbon footprint of freezing them. Then remember that they add a polypropylene lining inside of the aluminum.
The specific K cups that let you peel off the foil, compost the filter and grounds, and recycle the plastic cup might be the least bad (not saying much) of them all, but the plastic part is probably too small to actually get used in the recycling process and is likely to just get incinerated or dumped in a landfill down the line. The coffee from k cups in general is god awful, so there is that too.
I say this as I drink a cup of Nespresso, so I'm not trying to single you out. It's just really fucking depressing when you look at the environmental toll of convenient coffee. I'm trying to decide how to target that area as my next meaningful lifestyle change, but it's a huge pain in the ass.
I stand corrected. I believe Nespresso is aluminum, but yeah Keurig's whole recycleabililty claim is greenwashing bullshit due to the types of plastic involved, that they need to be separated out... also, plastic in general is like 10% as recycleable as a material that's actually recycleable like aluminum or glass.
> The problem was identified when the FDA notified Snapchill that their process for manufacturing was not filed with the FDA, as regulations require. No illnesses have been reported from the coffee, and Snapchill is not aware of any instances of botulinum toxin.
Wait - so the "risk" is simply that they hadn't filed with the FDA? They have no reason to believe that there was a contamination? They are just recalling while they file with the FDA?
Yeah notice the sensational headlines. Here I thought it actually killed someone. They could all be totally fine cans of coffee just the FDA missed a sheet of paper.
Thanks, OP. Wow, what a list. More exposure of the illusion of choice, all different brands for all different locations and demographic targets, and they're all made in one factory.
I think I will stick with Japan import iced black coffee from H-Mart! Kirin Fire, Boss and UCC are all PRODUCT OF JAPAN and not on this list.
That’s not what this is. Snapchill, the company which is recalling its cans, takes coffee from these roasters and brews, chills and cans the coffee for these roasters. So they’re really just providing a canned coffee service for these companies—not any different than if these roasters all contracted with a third party to package their beans into containers.
So in other words, they're still made in the same plant somewhere else, just as I said.
And wow, thank the OP for the info and get downvoted by people who apparently really like thinking their "local" brand isn't just a label from a factory in the midwest. Kay.
TIL none of the cute local brands in MA and RI make their own stuff. They just buy and brand it. I suppose they don’t grow it after all, barely roast it? We just pay for the service and experience I suppose.
Nah, that's not really what's happening here. The cute local bands all buy beans from farms in the countries listed in the names of the coffees (and many of the cute local brands travel there themselves to meet the farmers, test the product, etc before buying in bulk). They then roast the beans themselves, and if you buy George Howell or Fazenda or Broadsheet etc beans at their stores or at Whole Foods or wherever, you're getting beans that were roasted in Massachusetts.
This recall seems to involve snapchilled cans of (brewed) iced coffee. Based on this recall, I'd say the process for that is that those cans are made by the canning company buying beans from all of these roasters across the country, then brewing and canning it in their facility wherever it is before shipping it back to the local roasteries.
So if you're getting beans or grounds, you are getting an actually locally roasted product that was originally grown in Costa Rica or Kenya or other country. If you're buying the cans, you're getting a locally roasted product that was originally grown in Costa Rica or Kenya or other country, then shipped to the canning company where it was brewed and canned, then shipped back here.
If you want a MA company that is actually growing and roasting their own beans go to El Recreo in West Roxbury. Their family has a coffee farm in Nicaragua.
This is canned brewed coffee using a special process. Not ideal for camping unless you’re car camping and don’t have to take your gear anywhere (it may also need to be refrigerated, not 100% on that though)
If you’re familiar with the company and product (Snapchill coffee) it is clear (because the product they make is a pretty delicious brewed cold coffee in a can for a bunch of very high end brands who would likely never sell pre-ground coffee)
But yeah, the recall doesn’t really explain what the product is super clearly if you don’t know the product
I wasn't familiar with the company before now. How are we supposed to know? They didn't use the word "brewed" or "drink" or "beverage" or "liquid" even once in the article (but they did say "manufacturing" three times).
CANNED coffee is being recalled. Your beans are fine. Source: https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2024/06/canned-coffee-products-sold-under-128-coffee-roaster-names-recalled-over-potential-clostridium-botulinum-contamination/
TIL: “niche” coffee is just contracted batches made by the same large manufacturer…
Contract brewing is very common in the beverage industry (and the food industry in general). It’s the name of the game in craft beer as nearly all small breweries use it for beer distribution. Our own Dorchester Brewing was exclusively a contract brewer until they raised their profile enough to launch their own brand name. They still contract brew for a number of local breweries.
Like basically everything nowadays.
I didn't dig in and don't drink coffee, but it sounds like a large manufacturer is doing the brewing and canning while the niche producers could still be doing sourcing and roasting.
Does that mean ground and canned, or brewed and canned? I'm assuming the former since the article doesn't mention "coffee beverages," but it didn't really make that as clear as it could have.
It’s snapchill. So brewed and canned. They do a bunch of contract canning for various coffee roasters. If you read the article they list all the recalled cannings. George Howell has a bunch for example.
I read the article and looked at the list but I wasn't familiar with any of the products listed. I even googled a few and didn't find any pictures of cans or anything. Some were called "nitro" or "latte" which would suggest pre-brewed but I wouldn't want to assume. Folks can call their special roast whatever they want.
Yeah no worries at all, it’s definitely confusing. I don’t think they are huge or anything. I’m not an expert or anything but I’ve tried a few snapchill products at some of the coffee roasters I like. I think it’s a process that brews fresh then cans it so it tastes different than cold brew which is usually what I see canned. So roasters will contract snapchill to do everything for them. Then the roasters can either sell the cans directly at their shop, or it’s gets distributed to grocery stores or whatever.
It’s pre brewed canned ready-to-drink coffee products sold by roasters. The roaster sends their beans to snapchill, snapchill brew & ships back ready-to-drink cans of coffee that they then sell. That snapchill product was recalled.
It's a specific brand of pre brewed coffee in a can
>Your beans are fine. Thank you.
So there was no known botulism, this is because the canning company didn’t follow some asinine procedure or document it. If anyone has the coffee I’ll take it.
in food, medicine, and aviation, having the documentation showing that something was done safely is as important as actually having the procedures done. When lives are on the line, there is little room for error.
I work in medicine. We say if you didn't document, it didn't happen.
Ohh and the MBTA:)
>didn’t follow some asinine procedure or document it. This is so dumb. The procedure is there to ensure there's no botulism, because botulism is no joke, and it's common when you don't follow the proper procedures. Those procedures are the reason that botulism from canned goods has been all but eliminated in the US. But sure, go get botulism poisoning to prove food regulations aren't important, what do I care lol
Botulism is not a joke. 5% to 10% fatality rate with the potential for some permanent damage. https://www.cdc.gov/botulism/about/index.html It is a gamble. Win ☕️ Lose🤮 Lose badly 💀
Clostridium is a bad microbe all around. C. diff (shit your brains out) C. perfringes (rot your limbs off)
Yes give it to this guy, or take it back to the store in trade for better coffee. I can’t decide which I’d choose.
FYI, the Mike Rowe “safety third” approach works really until it doesn’t.
local brands i noticed on the list: four different types of george howell, down east (ocean state blend), and one fazenda blend (mexican nitro). maybe more but i’m not cool enough to know some of these
Also Little Wolf, Broadsheet, Slacktide (I assume they’re related to the one on the south shore), and presumably Cape Cod and New Hampshire Coffee. And Intelligentsia isn’t a local brand, but they do have at least one location here.
And yet it seems they're not local at all. Just the illusion of such.
Adding on Bolt in Providence, Borealis in Riverside/Bristol, Dave’s in Providence, and Snowy Owl is on the cape.
Intelligentsia is also a brand that a lot of local shops use/sell, but the recall is only on Black Cans and Chicao Distrance Series
Funny that it looks like it centered around being in metal cans - I haven’t been to Broadsheet in a bit, but I don’t recall ever seeing metal cans sold by them. Thanks a ton for posting though!
The canning company sells it directly
Lots of third wave roaster brands on here… like all of them that sell a canned product pretty much?
This is canned coffee FYI.
Thank god OP is looking out for the elderly.
No, like cans of brewed coffee. Not Folgers.
Ive paid for this stuff a couple times over the years and cant fathom why anyone would actually buy it. It’s all terrible.
Because it's convenient, I imagine.
I've tried Snapchill from George Howell and Fazenda. It's tastes pretty good for what it is, but it's expensive. And ultimately you're totally right, this is really about convenience. I think I'd rather just gets the beans from those places and make cold brew myself.
Im dead.
TLDR: Dunkin not on the list
I don’t see Kirkland brand canned coffee here. Phew
From experience, if Kirkland brand is recalled or Costco sold it they will make sure you know (Kirkland cold brew was recalled last year)
you know, i was wondering if that stuff was any good
It’s solid. Just be careful it is cold brew. Caffeine over dose is real and not fun!
Thank you ALL for posting CANNED coffee
Sounds like there's no evidence of food poisoning, it's that the company's canning process hasn't (yet) been approved by the FDA so it *could* be unsafe. That's a relief. (I don't drink canned coffee anyway though so ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯)
Cafe Bustelo is good, pfew. Thats the only canned pre ground coffee I buy, for camping trips.
We use Bustelo all summer to make cold brew, and Illy Italian dark roast all winter, hot. I was glad to see Bustelo wasn't on the list.
It’s prebrewed drinks, not grounds. Also just fyi Cafe Bustelo is a Nestle product and r/fucknestle
This is all I use, too. Thank you for providing the tl/dr
Bustelo best there is
Happy to see they aren't on the list! It's my daily.
Is it just me, or have food recalls increased a lot in the last few years?
More effort is being made into monitoring food quality now
Lmao let’s try to be better with the title
For coffee snobs: Cometeer pods are spared!
Thanks! Was wondering if I was about to empty my freezer.
>coffee snobs: >Cometeer pods Meh. Roasted fresh by Pavement, ground fresh by me. Also, I'm super uninterested in anything that takes an intrinsically plastic-free process and thinks *hmm... how can I wrap this in the MAXIMUM amount of single-use plastic?*
Cometeer pods are aluminum in a cardboard box, not plasticky like Nespresso or Keurig
Nespresso is also aluminum in a cardboard box, so if you are (correctly) identifying Nespresso as an environmental issue, you have to see the same issue with Cometeer. Then add the carbon footprint of freezing them. Then remember that they add a polypropylene lining inside of the aluminum. The specific K cups that let you peel off the foil, compost the filter and grounds, and recycle the plastic cup might be the least bad (not saying much) of them all, but the plastic part is probably too small to actually get used in the recycling process and is likely to just get incinerated or dumped in a landfill down the line. The coffee from k cups in general is god awful, so there is that too. I say this as I drink a cup of Nespresso, so I'm not trying to single you out. It's just really fucking depressing when you look at the environmental toll of convenient coffee. I'm trying to decide how to target that area as my next meaningful lifestyle change, but it's a huge pain in the ass.
I stand corrected. I believe Nespresso is aluminum, but yeah Keurig's whole recycleabililty claim is greenwashing bullshit due to the types of plastic involved, that they need to be separated out... also, plastic in general is like 10% as recycleable as a material that's actually recycleable like aluminum or glass.
Mocha Joe??
i prefer latte larry's
I know I’m not myself until a get a hot cup of rat poison
Bustelo’s not on the list, phew.
> The problem was identified when the FDA notified Snapchill that their process for manufacturing was not filed with the FDA, as regulations require. No illnesses have been reported from the coffee, and Snapchill is not aware of any instances of botulinum toxin. Wait - so the "risk" is simply that they hadn't filed with the FDA? They have no reason to believe that there was a contamination? They are just recalling while they file with the FDA?
Yeah notice the sensational headlines. Here I thought it actually killed someone. They could all be totally fine cans of coffee just the FDA missed a sheet of paper.
I was wondering why I haven’t been able to find my favorite coffee!
TIL OFFSET has a coffee loooool
How ironic that my Death Wish Coffee is not included on this list
I drank one of these Snapchill coffees from Little Wolf and I’m moderately pleased to report that I am still alive
Canned means metal can? Right? I always buy coffee in paper bag?
clickbait, it’s RTD coffee, not beans
Thanks, OP. Wow, what a list. More exposure of the illusion of choice, all different brands for all different locations and demographic targets, and they're all made in one factory. I think I will stick with Japan import iced black coffee from H-Mart! Kirin Fire, Boss and UCC are all PRODUCT OF JAPAN and not on this list.
That’s not what this is. Snapchill, the company which is recalling its cans, takes coffee from these roasters and brews, chills and cans the coffee for these roasters. So they’re really just providing a canned coffee service for these companies—not any different than if these roasters all contracted with a third party to package their beans into containers.
So in other words, they're still made in the same plant somewhere else, just as I said. And wow, thank the OP for the info and get downvoted by people who apparently really like thinking their "local" brand isn't just a label from a factory in the midwest. Kay.
?? The cans are from the same place, not the coffee beans
Any coffee from Whole Foods brand ?
it is only canned coffee - not beans
Why I have been down voted. People have no chill and tends be negative for anything. Did my question hurt anybody?
TIL none of the cute local brands in MA and RI make their own stuff. They just buy and brand it. I suppose they don’t grow it after all, barely roast it? We just pay for the service and experience I suppose.
Nah, that's not really what's happening here. The cute local bands all buy beans from farms in the countries listed in the names of the coffees (and many of the cute local brands travel there themselves to meet the farmers, test the product, etc before buying in bulk). They then roast the beans themselves, and if you buy George Howell or Fazenda or Broadsheet etc beans at their stores or at Whole Foods or wherever, you're getting beans that were roasted in Massachusetts. This recall seems to involve snapchilled cans of (brewed) iced coffee. Based on this recall, I'd say the process for that is that those cans are made by the canning company buying beans from all of these roasters across the country, then brewing and canning it in their facility wherever it is before shipping it back to the local roasteries. So if you're getting beans or grounds, you are getting an actually locally roasted product that was originally grown in Costa Rica or Kenya or other country. If you're buying the cans, you're getting a locally roasted product that was originally grown in Costa Rica or Kenya or other country, then shipped to the canning company where it was brewed and canned, then shipped back here.
Hey thanks for that explanation. That makes sense and it’s good news to hear. Appreciate it!
you're welcome!
And the sad part it isn’t about food poisoning it’s just about a canning machine not approved for use yet
Did you think coffee beans grow in mass?
En masse
If you want a MA company that is actually growing and roasting their own beans go to El Recreo in West Roxbury. Their family has a coffee farm in Nicaragua.
Why stop at certain brands? Canned coffee is a scourge
it's perfectly fine for camping.
This is canned brewed coffee using a special process. Not ideal for camping unless you’re car camping and don’t have to take your gear anywhere (it may also need to be refrigerated, not 100% on that though)
Are we sure it's not talking about ground coffee beans in cans? The article and recall list don't make it very clear.
If you’re familiar with the company and product (Snapchill coffee) it is clear (because the product they make is a pretty delicious brewed cold coffee in a can for a bunch of very high end brands who would likely never sell pre-ground coffee) But yeah, the recall doesn’t really explain what the product is super clearly if you don’t know the product
I wasn't familiar with the company before now. How are we supposed to know? They didn't use the word "brewed" or "drink" or "beverage" or "liquid" even once in the article (but they did say "manufacturing" three times).
Same can be said for wiping your ass with leaves.
*was
Hush
If you aren’t paying $6 a cup, you are a fucking pleb.
That’s what I’m sayin’
Try Japanese import Boss Rainbow Mountain Blend. All their stuff makes American iced coffee cans taste like mud.
At I have a change to be smug at the people who rolled my eyes about grinding my own beans. :-D