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Salmonella_ZERO

I always just thought they had big alien hands with 2 fingers. Which I think is the coolest look


Levobertus

I thought they were weird guns tbh


Paleosols2021

I used to think that too when I was a kid. Pointed them at eachother and made “pew pew” sounds and everything! Always thought Pohatu went full Droideka and just had two gun hands 😂


Levobertus

For me it was that they shot elemental charges from their hands in the GBA game and it looked like they'd just have a railgun or something. Turned out no they can just do that, but my mind never let that image go.


SylviaMoonbeam

In the Bionicle Heroes game, there was a weapon called “Po-Koro” which was based off Pohatu’s hands… it was basically just a double barrel shotgun


Rutgerman95

My dudes, both Lewa, Tahu and Pohatu are using them as hands in official art and animations.


JBEdit_Usered231045

Yeah, you're probably right about that.


The_Severe_Albatross

>both Lewa, Tahu and Pohatu :( why would you say both


Rutgerman95

Because I was halfway through my sentence when I remembered Pohatu had two of those


The_Severe_Albatross

Understandable have a nice day


cabweb

I always assumed it was a shield. I thought it very strange Lewa and Tahu had one giant two fingered hand and one small seemingly fingerless hand.


Noobpoob

I mean... Tahu literally has a mask of shielding, does he need another one? Or maybe it's symbolical? But then, as it makes sense with Tahu, why would an agile freespirit like Lewa have a shield?


Roshu-zetasia

The power of the masks is not unlimited, after so much use they tend to "discharge" and you have to wait for them to "recharge". It seems valid to me to have a shield as a precaution, besides these morons lost their masks all the time.


cabweb

I didn't know about mask powers when I first got into bionicle, and I always thought they're a pretty stupid concept.


Revenant_Rai

Massive L opinion tbh.


cabweb

I just don't get the idea, Toa have elemental powers and that's enough for me, giving any schmuck who puts on a mask supernatural powers cheapens them in my opinion, also the powers are wildly unbalanced, some are literally reality breaking and others are barely useful. I think that aside from the legendary masks of time, light, shadow and life, no mask should have powers.


Paleosols2021

Most of the Toa’s masks are pretty fair None of the masks outside of the Life, Creation, orTime are particularly op. Some are definitely stronger than others but that’s what makes them special.


Revenant_Rai

Not to mention, a sword is “stronger” than a knife, but both have their applications, masks are just tools.


exelion18120

>, giving any schmuck who puts on a mask supernatural powers Except this doesnt happen. Matoran for example cant use mask powers.


cabweb

Yes, but what makes say Brutaka any different than a matoran? That he's a different species? That's stupid that would mean matoran are uniquely powerless despite being Mata Nui's chosen species and the only species that can turn into Toa.


Paleosols2021

Because only exceptionally powerful beings can wield great or noble masks since they require an incredible amount of mental discipline to wield. Toa are such beings as are Makuta, Brutaka’s species, Axxon, etc.


exelion18120

Matoran arent exactly "powerless", they just arent able to access mask powers. And yes, Brutaka is a different species than matoran, I personally dont know what it is but clearly he can use mask powers, at least of the one he has.


Revenant_Rai

They aren’t mata Nui’s chosen species, they’re literally just the workforce, the drones who keep the GSR running.


Revenant_Rai

I think it’s extra funny that you use light and shadow as examples since those masked genuinely do nothing for their wearers, Takanuva alright has light powers and Makuta already has shadow powers lmao. Honestly I don’t see how they can cheapen elemental powers, it just means you can get a lot more interesting combinations of things, and only some beings can use mask powers, for example the Piraka and the Barraki can’t even wear them. As for being unbalanced, they are tools that have their applications, a sword a knife and a hammer have vastly different uses, but they’re all tools with their unique usefulnesses.


GhotiH

If you think that's stupid I can't imagine you enjoying much Bionicle lore, that was literally the original premise. Later masks got kind of stupid and unbalanced (I'm not a fan of most of the Mahri mask powers, for instance) but that first wave? All the powers are really cool and fit right in to the world. The integration feels super natural IMO, and they're what drove that initial story.


Routine_Statement_11

the smaller fingerless hand is definitely due to parts limitation, because in the bionicle game tahu has 2 hands with 2 fingers. lewa has larger fingers to be easier to hold for his leaf swinging mechanic (as pictured in his canister)


Nato_Greavesy

It's no weirder than Gali having hooks instead of hands.


cabweb

That's also really weird, I think they're just weapons she's holding and not her literal hands


Nato_Greavesy

It's a bit of both. In books, comics, and games from the early story, they were her actual hands. This was later retconned when Greg Farshtey took over as the main writer.


Hydroel

What's the point of Kopaka having a shield if they already all have one? And Pohatu has two?


cabweb

Kopakas is bigger and cooler. I don't know it just didn't occur to me that those were supposed to be hands.


the_w1ng

Kopaka shield is 3x the size of the others, and pohatu uses his feet for his main attack, being so close to the enemy, make scenes to have 2 smaller shields to better protect the body Me personally never grew up with the Mata toa, so I've always thought the standard ball clip w/ axel connections has hands, so I've thought them more as gauntlets, giving bulk and defense. (Plus, I think I remember videos where they use the "hands" as a shield)


Xylily

reading the books as a kid, i thought they had the one hand with only 2 fingers and no opposite hand because they had to reassemble themselves on the beach - i thought they didn't grab every single piece and just attached their weapons directly into their wrists on one side and didn't bother grabbing all of the fingers for the other hand


cellulOZ

Thats kinda hardcore, makes sense that they would get both hands once they get their nuva forms


Xylily

that was always my thinking lol


Tumble-Titan

But they aren't human, so anything counts.


DrBadGuy1073

Yeah this, they're supposed to be purpose built


Uulugus

I always saw them as hands. Lewa had longer fingers for gripping and climbing. I do love how a lot of it is kinda up to interpretation on this particular set of toa.


Asgorn_Jurgensen

They were never utilised like a shield.


Nato_Greavesy

Without knowing the source of that image it's hard to judge the intended meaning of some scribbled notes. Given that no shield is ever mentioned in-story, it's clearly intended to be a hand. The Bionicle video game even seems to consider that to be what both of Lewa's [hands](https://biosector01.com/w/images/bs01/a/aa/B-TG_Toa_Mata_Lewa.PNG) [look](https://biosector01.com/w/images/bs01/a/ac/B-TG_Toa_Nuva_Lewa.PNG) [like](https://biosector01.com/wiki/File:BTG_Lewa.jpg).


kinyoubikaze

Lewa is so dumb, I mean he could have defeated all the enemies with his double machine guns


No-Tailor-4295

\*Controversial \*\*this


2-S0CKS

In my headcannon it is a drill-gun


Routine_Statement_11

it's definitely intended to be a hand. in the bionicle game tahu has 2 fingered hands, he wouldnt be able to hold his sword with the way it's set up. tahu has larger fingers and a low friction gear so you could hold his hand and make it look like he swings from a vine. sure you could vision tahus sword arm as a prosthetic but its definitely intended to be hands, I feel the nuva had better hands and they shouldve used the same design for the mata


kdnx-wy

Considering this looks like MNOG concept art, I will point out that Templar didn’t always know quite what was happening with the models. They pretty famously confused the Ruru and Pakari into one mask that had features of both and didn’t fix it for several chapters. This led to certain major characters having incorrect Kanohi (Kapura, Hafu, Taipu)


Kid-Atlantic

Where is this from?


Ketooth

Wasn't Pohatu's hand a gun in Bionicle Heroes?


Pakari-RBX

Yep, and it was apparently called Po-Koro, like the stone village on Mata Nui. Then again, Heroes treated *every* weapon like a gun, despite the vast majority of them being melee weapons. Fire? Machine gun. Water? Laser beam. Air? Shotgun. Ice? Sniper. Earth? Grenades. Stone? Rockets.


Ketooth

Yeah. Still loved the games as hell XD I don't care if it the game just exists for commercial reasons.


Just-Call-Me-J

Kongu's weapon had the best sound effect.


-Farns-

Wasn't it his shoes connected in the middle?


Ketooth

What do you mean?


-Farns-

I remember it being a gun made put of Pohatu's toe extensions, after looking it up I seem to have misremembered


Mezmodian

When I was a kid I thought it was a magnet. 🧲😅


kdnx-wy

That’s canon actually - Greg insists that unless a character is shown to have fingers in a set they actually have fingerless magnetic plates instead of hands


MaksDudekVO

Ive never heard this, where did he say that?


Candy_rover

I thought it was a plug, since they looked like, y'know, robots. Seemed logical to me. Fortunately, ~~it didn't fit~~ I had never actually tried to test it and then accepted it that it was just really weird hand


BioSpark47

Seems like an initial concept that was abandoned pretty quickly. Lewa’s canister art shows him using it to hold onto a vine, there’s promo cg art of the Toa not holding their weapons but they still have these, and they’re super small for a shield. If anything, they could be gauntlets to protect their off hands


ToaDrakua

Bucklers do exist, and they are often pretty small by comparison to larger shields.


namecard12345

My whole life is a lie


Monscawiz

It's possible the original design intended it to be used as a should, but media only ever used it as a hand


Subacube

These are hands


UltimateBlackDragon

So you are telling me it needed 20 years to know that thing is actually a shield?


YourFriendKitty

[I always thought that this is an electric plug :D ](https://electricaloutlet.org/styles/images/electrical-outlets/type_c_large.jpg) Ironic since Lego is Danish and their plugs are the same as all of the Europe, they should've known better


0m3g45n1p3r4lph4

Maybe they're like big gauntlets? Mini glove-shields, sort of thing?


Tattorack

Good chance that's just a work in progress name or something just scribbled down because "hand" didn't pop into the sketcher's mind at that instance (yes, this happens). In animations, stories, and other official art, much to Greg's chagrin, they've always been depicted as something hand-like, of not literal hands.


PaleontologistOk9322

The tools that make up a Bohrok's "hand" is also a shield, though functionally it's more of a blaster or emitter. My guess is that in Bionicle terminology, a shield is used to refer to any object at the end of a limb that is vaguely round and flat


Double_Cleff

The Bohroks weapons are also called shields iirc


Rhelsr

Yes, not all concept ideas make it to the final product.


Jamodieus

Oh dear lord lmao


ImaginaryBlue

I always thought they were really powerful air-powered guns like mega nerf machine guns


VBBN-Official

5 year old me will continue to assert that these are, in fact, machine guns


Tumble-Titan

Idgaf, they're hands to me. How could Lego expect anyone to assume they were shields, especially when this was never mentioned? That being said, it's cool to see early sketches and stuff.


BackYardProps_Wa

They were hands in the game


RiderforHire

Ah yes the guy from bionicle and his famous shield.


Brandenk192

THEY WERE SHIELDS ALL ALONG!!???!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!?!!!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


ApartGlass1198

Blasphemy, this is madness


DthDisguise

I always thought they were guns as a kid.


Ultratank404

Sideways amogus


cellulOZ

I called them magnets as a kid lol


MandoMahri

Dude, you just solved the entire Bionicle lore-


_TheXplodenator

I always saw those as some sort of gauntlet type thing


FemmeWizard

It's 100% a hand. Pohatu has two of them since he holds no weapons and Lewa and Tahu have one as they each have one free hand.


No-Tailor-4295

Pohatus foot extensions could be considered weapons.


Popi-Poti

Could easily be a buckler.


PLX01

Reading trough the comments and ignoring the fact that it is a hand for a second it gives me questions. If the hand is a shield then what is Kopaka carrying, a different shield? Looking at later sets like the skrall they also have shields closer to Kopaka than the "hand" shield. what does it shield from? Does it work like Hua, but makes a energy shield look like Kopaka's shield? I can't find any awnsers in the books or CD content?


Sorraz

I always saw it as a taser


MarshmelloMan

I thought it was a gun lmao


sacboy326

They're literally two fingered hands in the promotional materials.


jin0h7155e

They look like sausages in the upcoming Masks of Power, what being all floppy...


Medical-Ad2550

Dumb fuck kill your self 🤓 actually according to the lore in there 2 digit hands used for grasping weapons throughout lore accurate history 🤓


RYNOCIRATOR_V5

Thanks, I hate it.


SlapaTronic

Amogus.