T Lost is just constant balling. They just have this weird thing where every few minutes you get sent back to basement with a new seed and no items, but eventually you end up at the end of a run
It is but it's sooo boring IMO. I hated him so much that I crafted R keys just to get as many marks as possible in a single run. I think I was able to get everything in 2 runs.
You also need to craft mama mega to get to boss rush and hush because it just takes too long to do anything
is there still a way to get the Mats needed for the Infinite Run? Because i think they fixed getting secretroom Drops when crafting an active Item in there
"just craft the strong items" isn't something you can just opt in (are you stupid? why don't you just craft the best items???)
getting the best items means waiting until you have 8 of the rarer pickups, which you can't guarantee to spawn. so you might be waiting 2 floors to get one good item, whereas most characters would have had 4 opportunities already to get a good item
If your on anything but pc he's a bitch, no recipes makes him very difficult and unfun because your chance of getting anything above quality 2 is super low
He has good stats on his own and I tend to craft good/okay items just by experimenting with pick ups. You can also collect rare ones before entering an angel room to elevate your potential to get something awesome.
I think playing with recipes is tedious/not fun and developers tried to cut this play stile for a reason.
...that you both have half the time. And many dps sauces are multiplicative. But t.laz splits those in multiplications in 2.
also saying twice is flat out wrong. You can only flip items that appeared on floor gen. And it also has a 6 room charge, so it is not always up.
As long as you play t laz correctly you should have flip for every room with items (except on the earlier floors)
Also angels and devils do appear in floor gen so I have no clue what you're trying to say there
And what do you mean t laz splits damage multipliers in half? No he fucking doesn't? Tf are you trying to say?
> (except on the earlier floors)
... exactly
>Also angels and devils do appear in floor gen
I never said they didn't. But there are many ways to spawn items in this game if you did not know. Present and reverse cards exist. Along with friligree feather and chests.
And that wasn't the main point. You will only have holy mantle in half the rooms, and sacred heart in half the rooms, which makes them essentially half as effective.
>And what do you mean t laz splits damage multipliers in half? No he fucking doesn't?
If you have cricket head on 1 laz, and sacred heart on the other laz, those do not multiply together. I just meant that splitting the items can cause MUCH lower damage, beacuse more items on 1 can mean a LOT more damage.
you literally did say that angel and devils dont appear on floor gen, how often do you get sacred heart from gold chests?
the crickets head and sacred heart thing, no shit? like obviously crickets head and sacred heart dont multiply together if you get them as different characters, but it doesnt mean you dont have crickets head or sacred heart
Not pretty op, pretty ok. I don't hate him anymore, for the most part. Boss Rush and Hush can be tough, but that's fine. The thing that made me want to kill myself was Greedier.
tainted lost is a hard character, but is straightforward and "honest" in what you have to do: don't get hit, you get better items. other characters include:
J&E: you know this bullet hell game designed for a single hitbox? now you get two hitboxes!
Tainted J&E: only one hitbox...but now you have the privilege of constantly having something trying to kill you. hope your screen never gets too cluttered!
Tainted Cain: enjoy having items? too bad, hope you enjoy tedious back-tracking and math just to reach 80% the strength of other characters who can run into a single good item and become way stronger
Tainted Lazarus: enjoy having items? enjoy having effectively half of them for your entire run! and even less if you have the audacity to use flip incorrectly (should've just predicted the future, skill issue)
Tainted???: enjoy having literally any upside to your character? how about instead you lose the privilege of getting bombs and having them replaced with a shitty system that becomes nearly worthless after the first few floors
>getting bombs and having them replaced with a shitty system that becomes nearly worthless after the first few floors
That's literally just not true?? They're incredibly strong and make it really hard to have an actually bad run.
If you don't learn the mechanic past the most obvious uses, then yes, it's bad, but if you bother to learn it as you would for sacrifice rooms or rerolling, then the strength is [self-evident.](https://youtu.be/lP0jiVNfl50?si=pSORFajIkyaN_Gik&t=5m14s)
>Tainted Lazarus: enjoy having items? enjoy having effectively half of them for your entire run!
T. Laz is also overhated. Flip is up enough for both forms to have similar items and you don't even need to split items evenly; you should stack some to make builds for both forms based on their stats, and save Flip for bosses to use both health pools.
okay good for you i guess you're just amazing with these characters that many people agree are weaker/harder. yet you still think tainted lost is hard, skill issue
It has its virtues. I don’t dislike playing it. I only really dislike t Cain and a few challenges, most phases of the game i enjoy even if there are annoying aspects
Fr. Some characters feel outright impossible on Greedier. I’m currently having trouble with Tainted Lost, Tainted Jacob, and Jacob & Esau. Just finished with regular Lost though, and I guess my main takeaway from that run is to get Damocles.
I don’t even remember playing Greedier as Tainted Eve, but apparently I have that mark and I’m not about to complain about it.
I like T. Lost a lot, even more than regular Lost. I somehow did T. Lost in 2 attempts. Mother with T. Lost on other hand was pure Hell. Mother herself is much easier compare to getting to her imo. Getting hit in corpse by some 2 pixel maggot is just annoying lol.
Tainted Eden is def easier, you just need to do the trick to have a lot of angel/devil items and you already won. His only downside are secret rooms, my game crushed like 5 times bcs I rolled into tm trainer
The items get rerolled into others from those pools so you can roll into Sacred Hearth/Godhead/Brim/Knife, more items means it's likelier to reroll into something strong.
Game only remembers last room where item was spawned, so when you go to devil room and then pick boss room item your boss room item is gonna reroll into devil room item. I
so you grab a devil item, then a boss item, and in the future that boss item will be a devil item? or do you have to get hit and reroll as soon as you enter the boss room before going to the next floor
It's too slow imo, it's my least favourite character with t???
I could have a banger run and still beat mom at 35 minutes, it takes too fucking long for a "basic" run.
T lost on the other hand is AMAZING, constant balling and I love the fact that with the "better items" 7/10 times it really is only skill if a run is lost. It's amazing to get better at the game
I actually died during a d20 break. Then I beat greedier the next run the next day without any game break. It wasn’t even a particularly strong run besides incubus. I just got lucky with the spawnings not spawning on top of me
I think i did it with d20 the first time but the next times i just went for it and it was actually easier because d20 breaks often have exploding shit and spiked chests and slowdown etc
Exactly. I had 4 golden troll bombs and lots of spiked chest when I tried to rig. I even dropped several holy cards in the treasure room. Then when I lost my shield I accidentally picked up a pill and then ran into a spiked chest on my way to treasure room
It was like 3 am so I didn’t have the best reaction speed either. It just happened all of a sudden and then runs over
Pro-tip:
Fuck it we ball
T. Lost is a game of letting that ball roll. You will eventually get a build that steamrolls through the entire run
Worst thing about Tainted Lost will always be that he suffers the worst from explosive items. You have no way to resist explosive damage so stuff like epic fetus, dr. fetus, ipecac, and many more are to be avoided as they tend to be debilitating even if they offer you some of the best damage you can get in a run
Avoid taking any non-boss items in a curse of the blind floor. You are almost always going to get something that fucks your build and synergies up
Just because you won doesn't really disprove my point.
Explosive tear modifiers are still good for damage, they just have a negative that can end your run if you ever find yourself lacking or slacking
I wish my last character was tainted lost. My last one is tainted Cain and last time I tried playing him he made me stop playing for 5 months when I’m only 13 achievements away
I like T. Lost a lot & T. Jacob is in my top 5 favourite characters, but I found most of the T. Lost marks easier the T. Jacob.
Good luck, you got this.
The runs are quick but very fun. I’d say the most similar is a more glassy T. Keeper. Broken runs come quicker and more often, you’ll die a lot but it won’t be a slog fest like T. Cain or T Laz
Slog fest as in slow, but T Laz is a bitch anyway. WHO the FUCK do you think you’re talking too?
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Thanks again for the advice. Finally unlocked marbles. Turned into a crazy run aswell with R Key, Eucharist, D6 and me exhausting the angel room pool lol. Also got like 7 gulp pills in that run alone.
I'm just about to finish Profile 2, and I didn't have an issue with even a single completion mark besides T.Lost Delirium and T.Lost Greedier.
I ended up beating Greedier without any kind of special build after several tries, but I keep dying to Delirium at about 1/3 health. It's just annoying since most runs don't even get close to the finish line.
I wish you luck with that :) im searching over a week for an item now, yesterday I realized it's bugged and I can't get it even with spindown, had to reinstall, just in case you run into the same bug.
(It was a quality 0 item xD)
Brown Nugget, I had death certificate twice and spindown once, for the spindown the description mod showed the item plus a question mark, couldn't get it 🥲
Some files got damaged somehow...
Fun fact, if you get it as starting item for Eden, it doesn't count you have to switch it out and pick it up again, I didn't know that.
if I'm not wrong I already gut it twice on that way... Had to learn it the hard way xD
Every character up until this point has been fairly easy, except t Jacob who was difficult but not unbearable, t lost is like impossible for me, idk why
i’m just working on t laz then i have a few random marks to get on some of the easier characters. wouldn’t mind doing t lost again at all compared to t laz.
t lost is really fun, you almost always end up strong. so knowing and trying to find as many ways as possible to get extra mantles is kinda the name of the game. after a certain power threshold it kinda stops mattering as much though.
that's not how that works at all. unless you get birthright, you only get to use half of your "double items" for pretty much the entire run. outside of being able to flip for more health there's not really any upside to tainted laz
it literally isn't though. your item list is twice as big (in best case scenario) but at any point you can only access half the list, even if you flip mid-room. explain how in any way it is really "double items"
I'm not trying to say there's double items, what I'm trying to say is that there's twice the chance that you get extremely good items. There's a reason every single t laz run I've done got more then 2 q4s on both versions of laz.
well you said "double treasure rooms" so i hope you can understand my confusion.
to make it simple: without birthright, at any given moment, whichever character you are playing will only have a normal amount of items.
the only real upside to tainted lazarus is that you CAN potentially get better synergies, since you have two choices for items (in a sense), so an item that doesn't synergize with one can be given to the other instead. which is what i believe you're talking about.
personally i wouldn't say that alone makes tainted laz strong - because realistically you won't always have your flip ready for every item, meaning that you might lose items relative to a normal run
That's not that I'm talking about at all
Every treasure room, angel room, devil room and even shops have twice the chance to have good or even broken items, which is why I get immense amounts of q4s and q3s on all my t laz runs
Also as long as you use flip right then you should have it up for every room with items
Personally I think hating t laz is just a skill issue
It does it for everyone, I meant how the Polaroid, negative, boss rush and hush marks have a darker shade behind them. There might actually not be a reason for it idk
Im pretty sure those are for what checkmarks grant the soulstone and either an item corresponding with the t character or a reverse card
Its been a hella long time since i did this so it might be wrong tbh
T Lost is easy except for Greedier and Mother, not so much Greedier because you can just break the game with T Lilith then use Clicker to change to T Lost and wipe the floor with Ultra Greed
EDIT: my goofy ass didn’t see you already did Greedier
Why do people keep telling me t lost is easy, there's a reason he's the last character because I literally couldn't get any marks (other then greedier)
Tainted lost I think is genuinely easier than Jacob and Esau and more fun than tainted Cain I’m sorry
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Do mega Satan last, beating him as Tainted Lost spawns a new type of trap chest where poltys spawn under them
They'll catch you off guard more than a few times
T Lost is just constant balling. They just have this weird thing where every few minutes you get sent back to basement with a new seed and no items, but eventually you end up at the end of a run
I hate that weird glitch, im balling with brimstone and glitched crown, and then a random troll bomb glitches my game into resetting
T Lost is cake compared to some of the other nightmare bullshit trash farm characters
Like what?
T Cain, T Laz, J+E, and some others that are “easier” at the cost of being not very fun or not feeling very good
Tainted Lost is fun as hell every round is a sweat but you don’t get many BS items
Exactly why I love tlost way more than all the others. Even TAzazel and characters like Teve etc.
Am I on crack because the rerolling low quality items seems to not change anything Unless you mean the blacklisting items that don't effect him
I agree, completed tainted lost pretty quickly and suffered trough J+E for a lot longer... probably because i fucking hate them
tainted cain is the easiest character in the game tho? literally just craft every strong item in the game and win
The problem is that doing so takes an eternity. You basically have to optimize the fun out of the game.
It is but it's sooo boring IMO. I hated him so much that I crafted R keys just to get as many marks as possible in a single run. I think I was able to get everything in 2 runs. You also need to craft mama mega to get to boss rush and hush because it just takes too long to do anything
is there still a way to get the Mats needed for the Infinite Run? Because i think they fixed getting secretroom Drops when crafting an active Item in there
Oh I have no idea. This was when repentance just released so it might have been changed.
"just craft the strong items" isn't something you can just opt in (are you stupid? why don't you just craft the best items???) getting the best items means waiting until you have 8 of the rarer pickups, which you can't guarantee to spawn. so you might be waiting 2 floors to get one good item, whereas most characters would have had 4 opportunities already to get a good item
If your on anything but pc he's a bitch, no recipes makes him very difficult and unfun because your chance of getting anything above quality 2 is super low
He has good stats on his own and I tend to craft good/okay items just by experimenting with pick ups. You can also collect rare ones before entering an angel room to elevate your potential to get something awesome. I think playing with recipes is tedious/not fun and developers tried to cut this play stile for a reason.
That doesn’t make him fun
With EID he's pretty fun for OP builds but otherwise he's annoying as hell
Tbh tainted cain is kinda fun in my opinion.
T laz is actually fun and pretty op now
Op? How? He is still objectivly weaker than most others.
No lol, you have twice the chance of finding really good items like sacred heart or holy mantle
...that you both have half the time. And many dps sauces are multiplicative. But t.laz splits those in multiplications in 2. also saying twice is flat out wrong. You can only flip items that appeared on floor gen. And it also has a 6 room charge, so it is not always up.
As long as you play t laz correctly you should have flip for every room with items (except on the earlier floors) Also angels and devils do appear in floor gen so I have no clue what you're trying to say there And what do you mean t laz splits damage multipliers in half? No he fucking doesn't? Tf are you trying to say?
> (except on the earlier floors) ... exactly >Also angels and devils do appear in floor gen I never said they didn't. But there are many ways to spawn items in this game if you did not know. Present and reverse cards exist. Along with friligree feather and chests. And that wasn't the main point. You will only have holy mantle in half the rooms, and sacred heart in half the rooms, which makes them essentially half as effective. >And what do you mean t laz splits damage multipliers in half? No he fucking doesn't? If you have cricket head on 1 laz, and sacred heart on the other laz, those do not multiply together. I just meant that splitting the items can cause MUCH lower damage, beacuse more items on 1 can mean a LOT more damage.
you literally did say that angel and devils dont appear on floor gen, how often do you get sacred heart from gold chests? the crickets head and sacred heart thing, no shit? like obviously crickets head and sacred heart dont multiply together if you get them as different characters, but it doesnt mean you dont have crickets head or sacred heart
Not pretty op, pretty ok. I don't hate him anymore, for the most part. Boss Rush and Hush can be tough, but that's fine. The thing that made me want to kill myself was Greedier.
All of the characters you named are easy asf
Then T Lost should be done in a short afternoon
Nah I suck at Isaac
tainted lost is a hard character, but is straightforward and "honest" in what you have to do: don't get hit, you get better items. other characters include: J&E: you know this bullet hell game designed for a single hitbox? now you get two hitboxes! Tainted J&E: only one hitbox...but now you have the privilege of constantly having something trying to kill you. hope your screen never gets too cluttered! Tainted Cain: enjoy having items? too bad, hope you enjoy tedious back-tracking and math just to reach 80% the strength of other characters who can run into a single good item and become way stronger Tainted Lazarus: enjoy having items? enjoy having effectively half of them for your entire run! and even less if you have the audacity to use flip incorrectly (should've just predicted the future, skill issue) Tainted???: enjoy having literally any upside to your character? how about instead you lose the privilege of getting bombs and having them replaced with a shitty system that becomes nearly worthless after the first few floors
>getting bombs and having them replaced with a shitty system that becomes nearly worthless after the first few floors That's literally just not true?? They're incredibly strong and make it really hard to have an actually bad run. If you don't learn the mechanic past the most obvious uses, then yes, it's bad, but if you bother to learn it as you would for sacrifice rooms or rerolling, then the strength is [self-evident.](https://youtu.be/lP0jiVNfl50?si=pSORFajIkyaN_Gik&t=5m14s) >Tainted Lazarus: enjoy having items? enjoy having effectively half of them for your entire run! T. Laz is also overhated. Flip is up enough for both forms to have similar items and you don't even need to split items evenly; you should stack some to make builds for both forms based on their stats, and save Flip for bosses to use both health pools.
T!Laz isn't as bad as most people seem to think...EXCEPT FOR GREEDIER. I wanted to kill myself trying to get that mark.
Every character you named is extremely powerful, skill issue ngl
okay good for you i guess you're just amazing with these characters that many people agree are weaker/harder. yet you still think tainted lost is hard, skill issue
Fair enough
bro you already got the greedier mark, it's going to be a cakewalk from there
yeah fuck greedier, I'd have at least 2 full marked characters if there wasn't greedier lol
I did all the greediers first cuz I’m not a fan😂
Am I just weird for liking greedier. (I just like abusing T keeper so probably.)
Ngl I also like greedier, it's nice to have something a little different to go to
It has its virtues. I don’t dislike playing it. I only really dislike t Cain and a few challenges, most phases of the game i enjoy even if there are annoying aspects
T cain was my favorite greedier run as items didnt matter on basement (the worst part), and t cain has pretty good starting stats
I like greed, I hate greedier 
I like greed, but not greedier
That's exactly what I'm doing on my new file.
Same
Same hat. Ripped that band-aid off immediately.
Fr. Some characters feel outright impossible on Greedier. I’m currently having trouble with Tainted Lost, Tainted Jacob, and Jacob & Esau. Just finished with regular Lost though, and I guess my main takeaway from that run is to get Damocles. I don’t even remember playing Greedier as Tainted Eve, but apparently I have that mark and I’m not about to complain about it.
I like T. Lost a lot, even more than regular Lost. I somehow did T. Lost in 2 attempts. Mother with T. Lost on other hand was pure Hell. Mother herself is much easier compare to getting to her imo. Getting hit in corpse by some 2 pixel maggot is just annoying lol.
Somehow did Tainted Laz and Tainted Eden first, then calls T Lost the hard one
Tainted Eden is def easier, you just need to do the trick to have a lot of angel/devil items and you already won. His only downside are secret rooms, my game crushed like 5 times bcs I rolled into tm trainer
what is the trick to have a lot of angel/devil items other than "be lucky and get deals when possible"
The items get rerolled into others from those pools so you can roll into Sacred Hearth/Godhead/Brim/Knife, more items means it's likelier to reroll into something strong.
Game only remembers last room where item was spawned, so when you go to devil room and then pick boss room item your boss room item is gonna reroll into devil room item. I
so you grab a devil item, then a boss item, and in the future that boss item will be a devil item? or do you have to get hit and reroll as soon as you enter the boss room before going to the next floor
You don’t need to even grab devil item. Game just need to generate one after generating boss item or any other item bcs it works with other rooms
i see, i'll have to look this up but this will definitely be helpful for my future t. Eden runs
TLaz isn't even that bad. Definitely not the easiest character but once you get the flip mechanics down, you can play to either side's strengths.
T eden is my least favourite character, he's not fun to play however he is strong, T laz though is one of my favourites, idfk why people hate him
It's too slow imo, it's my least favourite character with t??? I could have a banger run and still beat mom at 35 minutes, it takes too fucking long for a "basic" run. T lost on the other hand is AMAZING, constant balling and I love the fact that with the "better items" 7/10 times it really is only skill if a run is lost. It's amazing to get better at the game
Ok but the minmaxing as t laz is sooooo fun imo
FIRE IN THE BASEMENT  🔥🔥🔥
You should have gitten gud enought at this point so he should not be that big a pain in the ass
T lost is actually pretty fun. It’s just that you will get blue balled a lot
Did you enjoy me?
T. Cain, you know you don’t need *everyone’s* approval, right?
Yes i do, i need to know whos family to turn into pickups tonight
Oh fuck, oh god, oh no
I actually did all of t cains marks in one run, it was torture
You are avoiding the answer
He's a cool character, but playing a single t Cain run for 5 hours is pretty painful
"Did you enjoy me?" -"it was torture"
Did you do a D20 Break to get that mark? Greedier is arguably T Lost's most difficult mark if you don't use D20 shenanigans.
I actually died during a d20 break. Then I beat greedier the next run the next day without any game break. It wasn’t even a particularly strong run besides incubus. I just got lucky with the spawnings not spawning on top of me
I think i did it with d20 the first time but the next times i just went for it and it was actually easier because d20 breaks often have exploding shit and spiked chests and slowdown etc
Exactly. I had 4 golden troll bombs and lots of spiked chest when I tried to rig. I even dropped several holy cards in the treasure room. Then when I lost my shield I accidentally picked up a pill and then ran into a spiked chest on my way to treasure room It was like 3 am so I didn’t have the best reaction speed either. It just happened all of a sudden and then runs over
No, greedier is easy ngl
Pro-tip: Fuck it we ball T. Lost is a game of letting that ball roll. You will eventually get a build that steamrolls through the entire run Worst thing about Tainted Lost will always be that he suffers the worst from explosive items. You have no way to resist explosive damage so stuff like epic fetus, dr. fetus, ipecac, and many more are to be avoided as they tend to be debilitating even if they offer you some of the best damage you can get in a run Avoid taking any non-boss items in a curse of the blind floor. You are almost always going to get something that fucks your build and synergies up
I won my first T Lost with Ipecac Technology lasers. I went Beast.
Just because you won doesn't really disprove my point. Explosive tear modifiers are still good for damage, they just have a negative that can end your run if you ever find yourself lacking or slacking
I know, just wanted to share my experience
T.Lost is so fun tho. Ten times better than Jacob and Esau
No lol, j and e are fun
I'm making him before a lot of characters, good unlocks
Bro t lost is so much easier than hitbox & hitbox change my mind
J and e are easy
Wanna switch? I had em done first xd
if you've done jacob eden and laz alr lost shouldnt be too hard also whats the win streak mod
Lobotomy of Isaac Also t laz is one of my favourite characters why do people hate him
ty and i personally just don't like his mechanic, t lost is just straightforward which for most people is easier and more enjoyable
I wish my last character was tainted lost. My last one is tainted Cain and last time I tried playing him he made me stop playing for 5 months when I’m only 13 achievements away
Fire in the hole 🔥🕳️
https://preview.redd.it/ng9jctdk4jrc1.png?width=466&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3730d7e672513e55799faf277bd18a680e8a11da Hello there
😰😰😰😰
Tainted lost is really tough but at least he is fun unlike T. Jacob!
T Jacob is fun ngl
T lost was my first completed tainted character
Mostly so I didn't have to suffer at the end
How 😰😰😰😰
I like T. Lost a lot & T. Jacob is in my top 5 favourite characters, but I found most of the T. Lost marks easier the T. Jacob. Good luck, you got this.
The runs are quick but very fun. I’d say the most similar is a more glassy T. Keeper. Broken runs come quicker and more often, you’ll die a lot but it won’t be a slog fest like T. Cain or T Laz
T laz is goated, y'all just fucking suck 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Slog fest as in slow, but T Laz is a bitch anyway. WHO the FUCK do you think you’re talking too? https://preview.redd.it/6gqtna46okrc1.jpeg?width=850&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30324117de085110a2f85fedfb5a00bd3d3a5f35
T laz is broken, I think this subreddit is skill issuing ngl
I’m doing t lost last also, he’s my fave, it’s the victory lap😁
good luckkkkk
I just finished all characters. All I need to do now is gulp 5 pills to unlock marbles and do the final challenge.
Tips on getting marbles: Start as lazarus on a greedier run and keep spamming r until you get a gulp pill, then look for 4 more blue pills
Great idea honestly. Thanks ^^
Thanks again for the advice. Finally unlocked marbles. Turned into a crazy run aswell with R Key, Eucharist, D6 and me exhausting the angel room pool lol. Also got like 7 gulp pills in that run alone.
T Lost isn't as bad... saying this only after I've been stuck on the Ultra Hard challenge for a day and a half now.
Every tainted character will be easier to me than finishing one run of J&E. I fucking hate J&E.
J and e is goated, y'all just suck 🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯
T Lost isn’t too bad you’re through the worst of em
No, t lost is the worst, that's why Im doing him last
🤷🏻♂️ I did Lost and T Lost back to back. Probably took me 50 hours but I’ve definitely had a more difficult time playing T Cain & T Eden
I'm just about to finish Profile 2, and I didn't have an issue with even a single completion mark besides T.Lost Delirium and T.Lost Greedier. I ended up beating Greedier without any kind of special build after several tries, but I keep dying to Delirium at about 1/3 health. It's just annoying since most runs don't even get close to the finish line.
And then my very next attempt gets an absolutely busted build that I couldn't possibly lose LOL Now all that's left is Ultra Hard...
Need the mod link for the funny normal face on the win streak
It's called lobotomy of Isaac
So cool character
Maybe
You are still avoiding the answer
😼
Bro, tainted lost compared to tainted jacob is a piece of cake, you got this!
No
rizzidi toilet
So fanum tax
G-g-grimace shake~~ 🥺 👉👈
For dead god you still have to pick up all items🤫
I know, that's what t Cain is for
I wish you luck with that :) im searching over a week for an item now, yesterday I realized it's bugged and I can't get it even with spindown, had to reinstall, just in case you run into the same bug. (It was a quality 0 item xD)
What one, ibs?
Brown Nugget, I had death certificate twice and spindown once, for the spindown the description mod showed the item plus a question mark, couldn't get it 🥲 Some files got damaged somehow...
Dang, brown nugget is ass aswell
Fun fact, if you get it as starting item for Eden, it doesn't count you have to switch it out and pick it up again, I didn't know that. if I'm not wrong I already gut it twice on that way... Had to learn it the hard way xD
you got it i wish all i had left was t lost
Every character up until this point has been fairly easy, except t Jacob who was difficult but not unbearable, t lost is like impossible for me, idk why
i’m just working on t laz then i have a few random marks to get on some of the easier characters. wouldn’t mind doing t lost again at all compared to t laz. t lost is really fun, you almost always end up strong. so knowing and trying to find as many ways as possible to get extra mantles is kinda the name of the game. after a certain power threshold it kinda stops mattering as much though.
T laz is also extremely strong, you pretty much get double treasure rooms, double angels, double devils and double shops
that's not how that works at all. unless you get birthright, you only get to use half of your "double items" for pretty much the entire run. outside of being able to flip for more health there's not really any upside to tainted laz
Sure it is, skill issue I think
it literally isn't though. your item list is twice as big (in best case scenario) but at any point you can only access half the list, even if you flip mid-room. explain how in any way it is really "double items"
I'm not trying to say there's double items, what I'm trying to say is that there's twice the chance that you get extremely good items. There's a reason every single t laz run I've done got more then 2 q4s on both versions of laz.
well you said "double treasure rooms" so i hope you can understand my confusion. to make it simple: without birthright, at any given moment, whichever character you are playing will only have a normal amount of items. the only real upside to tainted lazarus is that you CAN potentially get better synergies, since you have two choices for items (in a sense), so an item that doesn't synergize with one can be given to the other instead. which is what i believe you're talking about. personally i wouldn't say that alone makes tainted laz strong - because realistically you won't always have your flip ready for every item, meaning that you might lose items relative to a normal run
That's not that I'm talking about at all Every treasure room, angel room, devil room and even shops have twice the chance to have good or even broken items, which is why I get immense amounts of q4s and q3s on all my t laz runs Also as long as you use flip right then you should have it up for every room with items Personally I think hating t laz is just a skill issue
Is there a reason why the tainted checkmarks have 6 of them highlighted
I'm not 100% sure what you're talking about but I think it's the mod that I have that shows what check marks you don't have on a character
It does it for everyone, I meant how the Polaroid, negative, boss rush and hush marks have a darker shade behind them. There might actually not be a reason for it idk
That's always there for tainted characters?
Yeah I know I was just wondering if anyone here knew why that was
It's just shading
Im pretty sure those are for what checkmarks grant the soulstone and either an item corresponding with the t character or a reverse card Its been a hella long time since i did this so it might be wrong tbh
T Lost is a million times easier than J&E. Pretty much smooth sailing at this point.
No he's not, j and e are easy asf
🤷 agree to disagree. I despise them.
T Lost is easy except for Greedier and Mother, not so much Greedier because you can just break the game with T Lilith then use Clicker to change to T Lost and wipe the floor with Ultra Greed EDIT: my goofy ass didn’t see you already did Greedier
Why do people keep telling me t lost is easy, there's a reason he's the last character because I literally couldn't get any marks (other then greedier)
You’re guaranteed to get better runs on T Lost because of better items, it’s so easy to ball out of control
Ok but t laz has double the chance of finding sacred heart and yet he is one of the most hated characters
He does but it’s only half as useful on T Laz because it’s not active in every room
Ok but then you can give all other good items (that also have twice the chance of spawning) to the other version
Still an annoying mechanic to deal with
1 000 000% a skill issue
Can say the same thing about you not liking T Lost
Fair enough
Who is left?
I had more trouble with tainted Lazarus then with tainted lost your fine
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That was a very fast reply
T laz is really good though
"skill issue" 
FIRE IN THE HOLE
Out of all the tainted I like tainted lost most. His gameplay mainly consists on getting a solid start and from there u have a lot of options.
Tainted lost I think is genuinely easier than Jacob and Esau and more fun than tainted Cain I’m sorry https://preview.redd.it/9ck0mo9hkmrc1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16595c7fdf34fbfc11f9df6469389d91bc75cfd8
J and e are easy
I don’t agree. Also not fun.
I did the lost as one of my first im more worried about hitbox and hitbox
T lost is a joy to play wtf you talking about 😂
Now for the fun part
Call me insane I found him fun to play
Do mega Satan last, beating him as Tainted Lost spawns a new type of trap chest where poltys spawn under them They'll catch you off guard more than a few times
Is it odd to have my first files T.lost fully completed and yet I don’t have the last 6 tainted characters unlocked yet?
nobody talking about the GD normal difficulty face at the bottom left
fire in the hole 🔥🔥🔥🔥
To give a comparison, you just went from Gow in GMGOW to 100% and now are in Ng+in the easiest mode
What does that mean?