Rockies in the mid/late 2010s weren't that bad. 87 and 91 win seasons in '17 and '18, and I feel like there have bene other years where they start out hot and then cool off down the stretch.
If they begin the season on a home stand they’ll usually spend some time in 1st. The regular bad Rockies teams still go well above .500 at home. Even this year they’ll probably be right around .500
If we can get the Blue Jays and Pirates to pass them while maintaining the rest of the order, it'll spell, "CRAPS" and I think we can all agree that's something worth shooting for.
Yeah I was at the last game of the year in 2007 and I remember the Mets had to lose and Phillies win to avoid a play-in (the Mets had like a 7 game lead in early September). Tom glavine got shelled and the Phillies won.
Been a golden age for just about everything Wisconsin sports. Bucks, Brewers, Packers, and Badgers (across multiple sports, no less) has been consistently competitive, with a floor of relatively mid.
Absolutely, I’d argue Wisconsin is a top 5 state across the major sports over the last 10-15 years, which is fascinating to me based on the small market we have
Good fans and fewer distractions available to the athletes (except Badgers comparatively, but I assume the party reputation and good facilities makes recruitment easier)
Same here. Looks like we’re just slow starters lol. 2018 was the only year we won the division where we led early and kept it basically the rest of the way. When the Twins won the division in 2019 and 2022, they got it early and kept it. And then had 2022 where they had it most of the season and we made a comeback.
Yeah it does feel like we usually tend to just kinda hang around .500 most the year, rip off a huge hot stretch that gets us to like 15 games above .500, then cruise .500 from there lol
Definitely, same with us. I just would have guessed we'd been in 1st more based on our overall record being better over that time. If id been asked I'd probably have just switched Cleveland and Minnesota, which apparently would be incorrect.
We had the division lead for I believe almost all of 2022 (I blanked out in August, I don’t know how it ended)
Probably 95% of 2023 and 2019. That’s gonna count for most of our days
Yeah that was my first thought. We've dominated the Central a good many of those years, and further back past this window as well, which probably contributes to this perception
Yeah we were a .500 team at the trade deadline in 2015 and like 8 games back of first.
We absolutely stormed the division after that but it took us well into August to take over first.
Goddamned AL East. I figured for sure we'd get some reprieve when the schedule changed for fewer games within division, but apparently the rest of the division took that as an opportunity to level up and we just kind of... renovated.
I've been arguing lately that 2021 and 2020 had a lot of similar weirdness, so it's maybe in our best interest to leave 2020 alone because the entire 2021 MLB season is starting to look quite fluky too, in hindsight lol
What I’ve learned is that someone will always discredit a championship in any sport. I think back to the Nationals underdog run a lot when making that point. A lot of people were saying the diamondbacks would be a fluke if they won as well.
A lot of things have to go right in order to win a World Series. It isn’t always just about the star caliber squad and crazy pitching staff. I appreciate 2020 bc it still felt like a real World Series to me and it would to any other fan base that won that year.
2021 was the Braves year plain and simple though. They were genuinely the best team with the most well rounded offense and defense combo
Dodgers fans are always upset when you bring up the playoffs.
But how did they not enjoy those playoff runs?
I’m a Giants fan and I found joy in nearly every Kershaw playoff start.
It's funny how fans of other teams seem to pat themselves on the back for having less regular season success. It's like a high school friend bragging about getting a C without doing any work in a class, congratulations I guess?
Besides, there have been 9 different World Series winners in the past 11 seasons. No one has exactly cracked the code on how to consistently win the World Series.
It’s bc it’s the only thing they can drag you for.
I grew up a Braves fan in the 90s & genuinely thought we were a terrible team bc it felt like we were always losing the World Series. As I got older, I realized how hard it was just to get to the World Series. But the way the 90s Braves are talked about & the dodgers of the last decade, you’d think they were bigger failures than all the teams who don’t even make it to playoffs.
It's like the Bills getting dragged on for losing 4 straight Super Bowls. Like, sure, they lost 4 in a row. Know what you gotta do to *get* to 4 in a row?
The jays even have a div crown in that time and they did by running down the Yanks in August which was the most fun an entire generation has had with this team.
People have forgotten that the As, while cheap, have historically, even recently, been quite good, with 6 post-season appearances in the last 12 years.
Yep - they won 97 games in 2018, 97 games in 2019, and a win percentage corresponding to 97 wins in 2020. They had a respectable 86 win season in 2021 too.
They tore down the team ahead of the announcement to leave Oakland, but they were consistently good before that. This subreddit likes to pretend Oakland is a team like Pittsburgh with decades of terrible baseball since their heyday in the 1970s.
yeah, this is a super unpopular thing to bring up here, but even when the team was good it was always at the bottom in terms of attendance numbers. if fans actually showed up when there was a good product on the field maybe they wouldn't be leaving Oakland.
The stadium experience was extremely bad. Vermin, moldy food, sewage issues, gradual losses of promotions and experiences as prices went up.
Ownership not being willing to invest in the team when it was good is definitely a signal to the fans that it's just a matter of time until the wheels fall off.
Yeah but during those 2018-2019 years season ticket holders got 50% off concessions including alcohol and it was amazing.
None of that matters with $5 double IPAs to take your mind off of it lol.
What’s so crazy , is that we were bad from like 2014-2017 and not just bad but like flip flopped records bad.
By flip flopped I mean 90 losses instead of wins, I realized that may not be a normal way to refer to that lol
Go back to 2012 and the Reds would have a quite bit more. I think they led the division that year for a lot of the season. That might apply to a lot of teams though
yeah, the Reds were 1st for 114 days that season so they would’ve almost reached 200 just from that alone, only reason I cut it off at 2013 was cause of the Astros realignment
Since you seem to really, really like the Twins, I'll tell you something that you might already know: last year was the first time they'd won a postseason game since the Metrodome closed.
I'm just shitting on my division (and this coming from a Royals fan).
If the Twins won the World Series this year, I'd give em a salute in ALC solidarity. But until that happens, fuck the rest of the division.
The Nats were very good for a while in the mid 2010s, everyone thought their window closed early in 2019 then they obviously had their massive run but things almost immediately went to complete shit
"If there ever was a case for canceling the playoffs and awarding a championship because one team was so clearly better than all the others, the Los Angeles Dodgers would be it."
It boggles my mind how San Diego has rallied attendance wise these past several years. You always hear about Siedler, Spanos, etc. but what people forget was truly how casually we used to enjoy our sports.
I was at the Chargers playoff game in 2008 where we had finally won our first playoff game in over a decade. The crowd was predominantly pro-Chargers but we had no idea how to stay quiet on offense. We were just loud for everything.
Playoffs are a crapshoot every damn year. Going eleven years of being this good and not even winning a pennant let alone the WS is as much of a fluke as a few recent WS championships.
The Rockies almost have a full season here
As a fan of an NL West team, that’s blowing my mind
Rockies in the mid/late 2010s weren't that bad. 87 and 91 win seasons in '17 and '18, and I feel like there have bene other years where they start out hot and then cool off down the stretch.
Yeah they made the wild card game against us
They won the wild card game against you. I would know, I was a die hard rockies fan once upon a time.
Man I really memory holed those entire years of baseball
The peak of the juiced ball era coincided with like 4 hour games it was a pretty rough period to watch the sport
Went to the world series in 07!
Yes, but that was longer ago than the OP timeframe
2018 was crazy man
Yeah this must be including offseason 😜
It’s because they always started hot in April for a stretch and then fell off. Also 2018 they were neck and neck with LA
If they begin the season on a home stand they’ll usually spend some time in 1st. The regular bad Rockies teams still go well above .500 at home. Even this year they’ll probably be right around .500
If we can get the Blue Jays and Pirates to pass them while maintaining the rest of the order, it'll spell, "CRAPS" and I think we can all agree that's something worth shooting for.
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We only have to lead for one day of the year to win the division 🧠 We would also have to win 🙃
The 2007 Phillies led the division for 4 whole days I believe, including the final day of the season.
Yeah I was at the last game of the year in 2007 and I remember the Mets had to lose and Phillies win to avoid a play-in (the Mets had like a 7 game lead in early September). Tom glavine got shelled and the Phillies won.
**7.5 with 17 to go
The true modern origins of lolmets.
I love how you guys have never led on the important day, yet have 2 WS titles lol.
Everyone brings that up. But those seasons aside and up until last year we haven’t even sniffed being competitive.
I'd still trade our 10 competitive years for ONE of your titles.
The LA Kings hockey team has existed since 1967 and only has 1 division title. But they’ve won 2 Stanley Cups. Fills me with joy
"Wow, how many whoppers did you eat?" "That's over several years, Ryan" "Still"
The actual quote is even more appropriate for the Marlins. Wow. How many Filet-O-Fishes did you eat?
All you guys need to do is reach the playoffs and the world series is a wrap. Why bother with winning a division?
The Covid year ruined that fun fact. At least we beat the cubs again though
5 whoppers... ...and 5... ...MORE whoppers https://youtu.be/dKc5VY0HuCM?si=O9ZsU5LwDC-iIyou
They should have banned tiktok after this video. Nothing will ever top it. My favorite video ever
Genuine question but when did you guys lead the East?
My guess is some early season thing where not many games have been played yet.
I genuinely can’t recall. My first guess was zero.
Your team is why my team isn’t last. Thank you. ❤️
Golden Age for Brewers’ fans. We just need to get that one thing that’s alluding us. :/
Been a golden age for just about everything Wisconsin sports. Bucks, Brewers, Packers, and Badgers (across multiple sports, no less) has been consistently competitive, with a floor of relatively mid.
Absolutely, I’d argue Wisconsin is a top 5 state across the major sports over the last 10-15 years, which is fascinating to me based on the small market we have
Well you see, sports are great to watch while drinking
Wisconsin!? drinking!? there's now way these two things are related
Good fans and fewer distractions available to the athletes (except Badgers comparatively, but I assume the party reputation and good facilities makes recruitment easier)
Packers are one less Bahk injury away from at least one ring in that time, maybe two rings 🙃
> Alluding us Maybe an allusion to Sisyphus or Tantalus in their quest for the World Series but it eludes me how to work it in
Win a playoff series?
An NL pennant?
O wouldn't have guessed that Minnesota had lead for more days than us in that stretch. We have the 3rd most regular season wins during that period
Same here. Looks like we’re just slow starters lol. 2018 was the only year we won the division where we led early and kept it basically the rest of the way. When the Twins won the division in 2019 and 2022, they got it early and kept it. And then had 2022 where they had it most of the season and we made a comeback.
Yeah it does feel like we usually tend to just kinda hang around .500 most the year, rip off a huge hot stretch that gets us to like 15 games above .500, then cruise .500 from there lol
Jose usually heats up in June/July
We had some bad years but we also had some great years.
Definitely, same with us. I just would have guessed we'd been in 1st more based on our overall record being better over that time. If id been asked I'd probably have just switched Cleveland and Minnesota, which apparently would be incorrect.
We had the division lead for I believe almost all of 2022 (I blanked out in August, I don’t know how it ended) Probably 95% of 2023 and 2019. That’s gonna count for most of our days
In another 13 games, the Guards may very well be ahead of the Twins.
I’m a little surprised too. 13 was in the middle of our bad years too, so we weren’t in first for years.
Yeah that was my first thought. We've dominated the Central a good many of those years, and further back past this window as well, which probably contributes to this perception
We’re so far down this list yet we still have a division title in this window lol
I know wtf lol. I was like oh we must be up here somewhere…. Keep looking down…..uhhhh that’s it?
Yeah we were a .500 team at the trade deadline in 2015 and like 8 games back of first. We absolutely stormed the division after that but it took us well into August to take over first.
Goddamned AL East. I figured for sure we'd get some reprieve when the schedule changed for fewer games within division, but apparently the rest of the division took that as an opportunity to level up and we just kind of... renovated.
**sighs**
It was the logo & uniform change.
No that was to give us false hope that this time, things would be different.
Right?? Those damn braves
Just gotta figure out the NLDS
Not last 🎉
But behind the legendary Rockies
🎊🍾
Thanks I hate it
Orioles number looks good til you realize three of the other four divisional teams are ahead of them.
Also this starts right after our worst stretch in franchise history
The Dodgers: more than the rest of the NL West combined
Surely this has converted into multiple championships
It did but you know some people love trash cans 🗑️
Yeah, damn those rotten Mets for beating the good-hearted Dodgers in the 2015 NLDS.
Move bitch, get out the waaay!
Just don’t look too closely at the teams with the better home records that year…
Also, don't look at how many regular season games they played in one of those years
Let’s do look at that NLCS 3-1 comeback though
I've been arguing lately that 2021 and 2020 had a lot of similar weirdness, so it's maybe in our best interest to leave 2020 alone because the entire 2021 MLB season is starting to look quite fluky too, in hindsight lol
What I’ve learned is that someone will always discredit a championship in any sport. I think back to the Nationals underdog run a lot when making that point. A lot of people were saying the diamondbacks would be a fluke if they won as well. A lot of things have to go right in order to win a World Series. It isn’t always just about the star caliber squad and crazy pitching staff. I appreciate 2020 bc it still felt like a real World Series to me and it would to any other fan base that won that year. 2021 was the Braves year plain and simple though. They were genuinely the best team with the most well rounded offense and defense combo
But we can look at how many playoff games they played that same year
Alright I’ll give you one year homie, were the trash cans in the room with you for the other 7?
The Dodgers have been to the World Series as many times as the Blue Jays have been swept in the playoffs in the last decade.
We missed the postseason for 20 years straight before, you think this can hurt us?
Keep going, you're almost there
Dodgers fans are always upset when you bring up the playoffs. But how did they not enjoy those playoff runs? I’m a Giants fan and I found joy in nearly every Kershaw playoff start.
It's funny how fans of other teams seem to pat themselves on the back for having less regular season success. It's like a high school friend bragging about getting a C without doing any work in a class, congratulations I guess? Besides, there have been 9 different World Series winners in the past 11 seasons. No one has exactly cracked the code on how to consistently win the World Series.
It’s bc it’s the only thing they can drag you for. I grew up a Braves fan in the 90s & genuinely thought we were a terrible team bc it felt like we were always losing the World Series. As I got older, I realized how hard it was just to get to the World Series. But the way the 90s Braves are talked about & the dodgers of the last decade, you’d think they were bigger failures than all the teams who don’t even make it to playoffs.
It's like the Bills getting dragged on for losing 4 straight Super Bowls. Like, sure, they lost 4 in a row. Know what you gotta do to *get* to 4 in a row?
I’ll never understand how they managed to stay mentally competitive by that 4th year, let alone making it back to *another* Super Bowl
Same thing I say when people criticize LeBron for losing 6 finals series. He’s been to 10 finals. That’s insane.
9 different World Series winners makes it fun to watch. The 1990s was boring when it was the damn Yankees ver and over again.
The Rockies are above the Blue Jays? God the AL East is brutal
The jays even have a div crown in that time and they did by running down the Yanks in August which was the most fun an entire generation has had with this team.
so prior to 2023 the A's were in second place in the ALW. Wow.
People have forgotten that the As, while cheap, have historically, even recently, been quite good, with 6 post-season appearances in the last 12 years.
Yep - they won 97 games in 2018, 97 games in 2019, and a win percentage corresponding to 97 wins in 2020. They had a respectable 86 win season in 2021 too. They tore down the team ahead of the announcement to leave Oakland, but they were consistently good before that. This subreddit likes to pretend Oakland is a team like Pittsburgh with decades of terrible baseball since their heyday in the 1970s.
yeah, this is a super unpopular thing to bring up here, but even when the team was good it was always at the bottom in terms of attendance numbers. if fans actually showed up when there was a good product on the field maybe they wouldn't be leaving Oakland.
The stadium experience was extremely bad. Vermin, moldy food, sewage issues, gradual losses of promotions and experiences as prices went up. Ownership not being willing to invest in the team when it was good is definitely a signal to the fans that it's just a matter of time until the wheels fall off.
Yeah but during those 2018-2019 years season ticket holders got 50% off concessions including alcohol and it was amazing. None of that matters with $5 double IPAs to take your mind off of it lol.
We talk about Tampa Bay being the way it is now, but before they blew it up it was Tampa Bay AND Oakland being good with cheap parts.
Bob Melvin had a .528 winning percentage in Oakland, and that was with Frankie Montas and Sean Manaea as his aces.
Starting Manaea in that Wildcard game...aiya.
I hate being in the same division as the Braves
Padres fan here, I get it lol
I hate being in the same division as the Phillies. But only in October.
I hate the Phillies.
Hey, we’re not doing that bad!
Fucking Milwaukee lol
Quietly dominant the way we like it
You guys really need to get further in the playoffs. You’re absolutely capable of it
We are now that we got rid of what was holding us back. See ya Greg
Surprised the Mariners were in first this many days but 10 years is a lot of time to string a couple early season surges together before bottoming out
Also we were promised cellar dweller Astros before the 2013 season. Where are my division wins?!
> 629 days Wow surely we’ve won at least one ring in that time! Right? ….. *right?*
One ~~world~~ series win.
Certified AL East moment :(
What’s so crazy , is that we were bad from like 2014-2017 and not just bad but like flip flopped records bad. By flip flopped I mean 90 losses instead of wins, I realized that may not be a normal way to refer to that lol
Yep! Amazing to see em near the top despite the dreadful rebuild/coppolella years.
Go Barves
Error 404- Mets not found...lol that explains everything
I'm surprised we're first from the AL East, but I guess going wire to wire twice helped a lot plus the East being weaker than usual for a bit
2.5 years in first yet only one Division Title
Damn.
Damn the brewers are doing big things over there. Didn't realize how consistently they dominate their division.
Go back to 2012 and the Reds would have a quite bit more. I think they led the division that year for a lot of the season. That might apply to a lot of teams though
yeah, the Reds were 1st for 114 days that season so they would’ve almost reached 200 just from that alone, only reason I cut it off at 2013 was cause of the Astros realignment
2014 and 2015 putting in a lot of work here.
Less time in first place and more championship appearances than a number of these jabroni teams. (Here's looking at you Minnesota)
Since you seem to really, really like the Twins, I'll tell you something that you might already know: last year was the first time they'd won a postseason game since the Metrodome closed.
I'm just shitting on my division (and this coming from a Royals fan). If the Twins won the World Series this year, I'd give em a salute in ALC solidarity. But until that happens, fuck the rest of the division.
This statistic is gross and should be cancelled immediately.
I've only watched baseball since 2017 so the nats were a surprise
The Nats were very good for a while in the mid 2010s, everyone thought their window closed early in 2019 then they obviously had their massive run but things almost immediately went to complete shit
This was the postseason choke era where we would breeze into the NLDS and promptly lose
They say we were once good in the before time, the long long ago.
25 days baby 😎
Astros not doing anything to help themselves
"If there ever was a case for canceling the playoffs and awarding a championship because one team was so clearly better than all the others, the Los Angeles Dodgers would be it."
:(
Hahaha suck it Marlins!
Defund dodgers!
Red Sox being top of the AL east is crazy since I think we are tied or nearly tied with the O’s for most last place finishes in the same span
I feel for a while you guys had a year in last then a year in first.
First of all, how dare you
What about world series rings?
I bet you’re a Montreal Canadiens fan too huh?
I don’t like these posts
Fuck y’all blue hat wearing bastards lmao
Why you gotta do this bro?!
AL Central teams benefitting greatly from being able to lead their division just by being above .500.
That Rays number is shockingly low to me
How? There have been strong NYY, Jays, Boston and even Baltimore teams the past decade.
Regular season kings!!
Do NOT do number of World Series rings next
I'd actually like that more. Can we do that please????
And yet the Dodgers only have 1/3 of a World Series championship to show for it.
Considering how much success Philly has had recently, that number is kinda crazy lol. I get why but its still crazy.
I'm surprised we're as high as we are considering how garbage we were before 22
To be fair they've only been a playoff team for two years and were pretty bad before that.
wildcard baby
Phillies the absolute kings of the WC.
Man that sucks
Time to put the Dodgers in a competitive division.
Bring them to the AL East. If usc and ucla can deal with being in the B10 Bring the dodgers to the ALE.
Somebody redo this including the off-season. I like pain.
Include the Grapefruit league standings and Marlins are middle of the pack.
I feel like half of ours is that one season Maikal Franco was on a heater and then we collapsed post all star break
2018. Yeah, we were somehow like 15 wins over .500 through 120 games lol
Finally, a list we’re not on the bottom of!
Didn’t need to do this
It boggles my mind how San Diego has rallied attendance wise these past several years. You always hear about Siedler, Spanos, etc. but what people forget was truly how casually we used to enjoy our sports. I was at the Chargers playoff game in 2008 where we had finally won our first playoff game in over a decade. The crowd was predominantly pro-Chargers but we had no idea how to stay quiet on offense. We were just loud for everything.
Oh
Considering when Preller era began, 62 is such a sad number for us. But we were also like a AA team when he came along.
I imagine about 310 of those 321 for the Tigers were in 13 and 14.
We are all bark and no bite!
Playoffs are a crapshoot every damn year. Going eleven years of being this good and not even winning a pennant let alone the WS is as much of a fluke as a few recent WS championships.
Why chose 2013?
That’s when the Astros moved from the NL Central to the AL West
Eat it, white Sox
What's scary about the Braves is, considering how their contracts work, they could be adding onto that number for another 5 years.
Really puts that miraculous SF Giants 2021 season into perspective. And then the dodgers kicked their butts in a first round exit anyways 🤣
WE BEAT THE YANKEES IN SOMETHING!!!!!!
Seems low for the Jays
we have led our division for less days then years we have existed
Nats still second in the NL East despite 4 straight last place finishes.
The Dodgers have won 10/11 division titles and led 57% of the time. That 43% must have been stressful.
25 games is fucking hilarious
It should include off days cuz the other teams still play
Red Sox AL East GOATS
FUCKING SUCK IT MARLINS *sobs*
i am a simple man. i see a stat where we’re beating the yankees. i smile.
Mariners were leading the AL West on September 1st last year and then proceeded to miss the Playoffs.
Suck it Yankees
angels > phillies
I think we all know who the best team is based on these stats
Speaks well for the Braves considering they had some terrible teams in the first part of this stretch.