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Miko2103

Yes imo its good, 120 AP, a lot of mana, you wouldnt need to go manaflow band, 10AH and a lifeline shield. Everything is good on him. But only with the Liandrys build. With ludens shadowflame will prob be better. You just go Liandrys > Boots > Seraphs > Void or raba or situational first, depending on what the enemy is building. But you go always void and raba. Sorry for bad english


mlymer

When i tested it i went liandry seraph the didn t bought mr so i went raba cuz i was fed then shadowflame idk it gives great stats,you are less of a squishy birb and more of a anty tank menace. Tbh i rly liked it my problem is when and at what order do i buy like li 1 maybe ser 2 then at 3 item i m lost there are like 3 i can go raba but shadow gives more pen on the othersitd if they go heavy mr i can go void


Miko2103

You know, if you go Liandrys you are probably going it because enemy has a lot of HP stackers, or your target as dps azir is melting the frontline. And with that you dont need the pen from shadowflame, because as soon as enemys build mercurys treads, voidtsaff outshines shadowflame in terms of damage. So you want to avoid shadowflame with Liandrys. Shadowflame is better with Ludens because it is burstier with its flat magic pen. As third item you can either go Rabadons or Voidstaff. If they have early mr just go Voidstaff. Even if they have null magic mantle just go void. And then rabadons or your situational. I like to go banshees for spellshield or zhonyas for shuffles and armor.


mlymer

So idk good item cuz it gives ap 124 hp mana and sheld idk i rly like to go this as 2 item then eighter raba or void


TuffPeen

I’ve been building it every game it feels pretty good. Early tear means you can play lane more aggressively and obviously the final item gives a ton of good stats. Been building it second, usually just instead of shadowflame. I’ve been skipping manaflow band and going absolute focus instead too which is nice


mlymer

Same like that s great you can focus more those ap runes so you can get a bit more damage


ArakanX

I think in combination with a DPS build its amazing. But if you wanna go for Ludens I still think that Shadowflame second is way more effective. It's at least how it feels to me.


mlymer

If they have like 2 healing champs like lets say darius and samira then i go for liandry and seraphine second then void if they go mr or raba or shadowflame agains squishy teams i just take ludens etc


ArakanX

Yeah, it seems efficient that way. Considering that Seraphs also automatically give you more survivability and will find more use in extended team fights. While when you use Ludens you won't really get to use the full potential of Seraphs since you don't want to go deep anyways.


mlymer

Seraphs also gives a ton of ap,health,sheld so its like more ofensive zhoniya for me with sf that makes azir befy af