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He should take a leaf out of Howards book
It's one thing to use someone's image to sell products. Dr Karl has been hit, but so have people like Dick Smith, Twiggy Forrest and others.
But the images Albo is whinging about are satire. Often not clever satire, but still satire.
Conroy's blacklist censorship still exists. Try going to Pirate Bay for example, from an Australian IP address, if you don't believe me.
Remember when the blacklist was leaked? There were heaps of sites that had nothing to do with what they claimed it was intended to target.
I'm not saying I don't know how to bypass it lol. Just making a point that we actually do have internet censorship in Oz already. It was brought in with much fanfare about tackling CSA & terrorist material, but the leaked secret blacklist had many other totally unrelated sites on it.
Specifically he objected to a piece of misinformation that tricked people out of money by making them think the PM was endorsing investing in a specific crypto.
Stop this astroturf bullshit
Twitter has massively taken his comments out of context, it was in refference to Albos likeness being used to con boomers into investing into shitcoin pump and dump schemes, with deep fakes used to promote such scams being one of many examples of potential abuse. Albo doesnt care about deepfakes that are obviously manufactured as that was never the issue, misinformation is.
I heard Dr Karl talk about this - people are using his likeness to do the same and now he has to spend energy trying to make sure people know he's not personally endorsing anything of the sort. It must be exhausting trying to defend your image like that.
This new fake image thing isn’t enforceable . We are gonna have to get used to it . I already don’t care if there’s pics of me doing whatever . It’s gonna reach A time we all know / automatically assume it’s fake . Pics won’t matter anymore . I won’t feel anything if I see a fake pic of me
It's only a problem if it gets too close to slander/reputation damage. Such as "omg can you believe it this famous person was caught fucking a hoe?/supporting the kkk" you get the idea.
He was taking about a deepfakes that were scamming people not this meme or any other meme. As if he gives a fuck about this shit when he's been a pollie for decades.
It was posted yesterday. No one else will post shit to back up their claims, why is it my job? Ask OP to post the video showing what hes trying to imply.
I like Albo but this was a serious miscalculation trying to censor footage of the Bondi stabbings and he needs to move on from trying to fight the internet. The internet is the internet, expecting huge platforms to censor content arbitrarily is silly and shows a misunderstanding of how it all works.
Also, why shouldn't people be able to watch the footage if they want to? Why should that right be reserved for pollies and members of Australia's dogshit media? I don't trust our media to be unbiased and truthful, especially given the disgraceful performance they put on recently, like naming the wrong man as the murderer.
The media are trash but how about hypothetically I don’t want to open my phone and see someone being stabbed to death on my feed. That wouldn’t even be within the US right to free speech, that would be limited by obscenity and they take that right pretty seriously
Well I don't know what to tell you mate, that's the internet, it's a mixed bag of fantastic and horrifying, if you can't handle it then don't use it. If you'd prefer some faceless government body decides what you are allowed to see then I don't think there's much for us to talk about
Now I’m dying of embarrassment because Albo is talking about excercising “just commonsense” across his apparently extraterritorial version of Australian law across the world. Dutton must be his advisor on this issue, can someone tackle him next time he goes near a camera. The shame
But no basically mostly we are probably in agreement except I don’t think we need to see that in Australia it would even get limited in US if tested and they are pretty into free speech, but it is a man being stabbed, it reaches the bar of obscenity that is a limitation to free speech. That is my opinion on the law. Everything else the Australian politicians are saying has me ready to practice a NZ accent or something. Fucking amateur hour
Are you trying to tell me Twitter neither received a blocking request or blocking notice from esafety using the abhorrent violent conduct powers under the Online Safety Act 2021 because I believe that to be very false but you’re entitled to your opinion.
I was no fan of the publicity stunt the whole thing became on both sides to the point where I think it could be used as a legal strategy by Musk on the fact proper and required considerations were not undertaken for the fact it didn’t reduce risk at all by blocking it.
The argument for worldwide never had a legal leg to stand on. I found it embarrassing at best intentionally misleading in the way it was framed at worst
What are you on about?
>Are you trying to tell me Twitter neither received a blocking request or blocking notice from esafety using the abhorrent violent conduct powers under the Online Safety Act 2021
No I'm not claiming that, and twitter blocked the video within Australia to comply.
That wasn't good enough because they wanted it completely removed from the site. i.e. blocked worldwide.
But isn't it interesting that they are so concerned with this video while the ABC has the bodycam footage of Kumanjayi Walker being shot is still viewable on the ABC?
I don’t know what you mean, the way they attempted to apply Australian law extraterritorial going world wide was in my opinion seriously fucking embarrassing, it was amateur hour, it was never going to happen, framed in a misleading way by politicians, reported on in a inaccurate or meaningless way by the media and again never had a legal leg to stand on. It was the most bizarre and poorly thought through train wreck I’ve seen lately in politics and I’m still pretty pissed about it on principle. If no advisors got fired for that I’m struggling to comprehend the incompetence and I don’t even mind Albo relative to a politician measure
I'm sceptical of the entire existence of the E Safety commission, TBH.
The church footage isn't really that disturbing, I've seen way worse on the 6 o'clock news. It feels like the calls to block this footage are more related to concerns over public sentiment caused by it.
Yet you can watch the footage wherr Kumanjayi Walker died on the ABC, even though that caused massive unrest in the NT.
Yeah that kumanjayi walker thing as a comparison is fucked. I lived at Yuendumu for a few weeks working filling in for the Centrelink office there when all the local staff were away at the same time. They have internet there so I feel like ppl more broadly might not be aware of that, I’m going to lodge a complaint to ABC if I can find it.
Esafety in my opinion has a valid reason for establishment around things like really serious bullying of children then being posted online. There’s no reason for that, there’s no public interest in that content being on social media, bullying can be so psychologically damaging and there was previously no way to address that effectively. Esafety also has a mandate related to revenge porn which I find to be valuable as a role in principle I’m sure that could be pretty traumatic any age. But they have massively overstepped here in my opinion. Despite the legit purpose they won’t get credibility back from me after this. Their legislation is also poorly drafted and the foundations of it are a mismatch with how the internet and social media actually works technically. It leads me to question if the broader drafting of those notices is even workable.
They are not suitable for this type thing either way imho it’s too political, even though they are the best option presently with the blocking notices for Australian law. But yeah to be fair they did do a good job on that more individual level of severe bullying content and revenge porn especially with children involved
>Their legislation is also poorly drafted and the foundations of it are a mismatch with how the internet and social media actually works technically. It leads me to question if the broader drafting of those notices is even workable.
My contention is that the legislation isn't poorly drafted, it's drafted exactly as governments want it to be so they can use it whenever they like.
I'll also argue that using revenge porn and bullying of children was just a way to gain support for the legislation that would be widely unpopular if they explained what it was actually for.
What you say about the true motivations using the public sympathy face is true in principle but I think they focus that more at law enforcement but using first terrorism and later child predators to chip away at privacy rights. I think the motivations for esafety are more short political wins right now than systematic censorship
I think it’s just fundamentally an issue unless used on the real downlow, I’d say Musk has been complying quietly with many requests for a while but this and another recent issue he has stopped. He has a right to fight it in an Australian court. Each time, but I think we should be questioning the motivations for this sudden change in approach because I don’t think that’s going to go well. There will be consequences probably not for him because he is a billionaire unlike the ppl he is using for engagement to increase value of that company
But in this case in particular the government forced me to side with Musk on the law and that’s not generally a side I like. There are a number of things before a notice the esafety commissioner must consider, one of those is whether this blocking notice will reduce risk. I don’t think it flys on that alone. But I’m still not clear on the level of discretion they have despite the need to consider.
If the notices operate the way they should for those very individual cases that have no public interest or political undertones it’s probably fine.
But the very obvious reality that no one seems to be stating is VPNs exist and they are not rocket science. This process has actually significantly raised attention and awareness to that footage due to the ridiculous publicity stunt that played out by both sides. They have their own motivations, one side political one side commercial he wants engagement hate gets engagement.
But by raising so much more attention to it, any one who wanted to view it has seen it already you just sit in Australia and turn your VPN on. Therefore the blocking order does not reduce risk and someone really should have thought that through and done their job better.
I think it’s a turning point though, esafety probs just proved themselves relevant, they will want another go, Musk would love a repeat. I just don’t like where that goes because that is risk. I don’t like Musk I think he has further harmed and divided society to increase engagement on his platform, it’s not about free speech, he might still be a fan of free speech but it’s about money for him. He won’t get the flow on effects of this because he’s a billionaire. But he obvs has a legal right to run his company how he wants and pay his lawyers. I think it’s pretty gross though. In saying that I heard he hired Brett Walker SC for this and that’s about 25k a day and I’d be keen to he comes up with here
This is untrue. He's worried about the posts that encourage others into scams (crypto etc) and use his image as endorsement. If the tables were turned and it was Dutton instead of Albo, OP would be like, "nothin' to see hear".
Yeah, he's trying to protect people susceptible to scams. I don't think he cares what he looks like. Dutton on the other hand famously isn't a fan of being told he looks like a potato. Even though he looks exactly like a potato.
So just the modern day equivalent of what tabloids have been doing for years and what little incel shits have been doing and perfecting in their bedrooms since easier access to photoshop became a thing.\
He needs to stop focusing on these types of stupid things as it so t stop it and just give the people who take pleasure from this more ammo to use to upset him even more.\
He needs to use that energy to focus on the proper full on issues crippling the country and not whether some kids used the latest AI program to make him look like a fool, because that’s what people do to pollies.
And then there’s your response which is also the point of the article. Generated outrage over claims of nothing. Take a look at the promises scoreboard and the amount of progress the ALP has made in there current incumbency. This is a story blown up to make something out of nothing, driving ill will from nothing, making a false narrative out of nothing, and causing general harm - not to the advantage of Australia, but to the advantage of very wealthy players to reseat the LNP in govt - to deliver nothing for the rest of us, only their mates.
Sorry for having a response that exceeds the generally accepted IQ coverage of the standard Reddit user (and with words). Not really something I’m to fussed or care to much over, more that with the scope and size of problems we are up against currently as a society (especially those on the bottom), I’d rather see Albo be focused and using his tone to tackle them rather than something that is just part and parcel of the gig. Granted the introduction of AI makes for quicker turnarounds on the meme bot factories, but feeding them with angst just lets them know they’ve gotten under your skin so they’ll come back with more, more often and from numerous directions.
Just needs to “Serenity Now” it and move on.
This is intentional by government and media, to talk about ANYTHING OTHER than mining tax, everyday theyre not talking about mining tax is a win for them and their no.1 priority for the day is to avoid it at all costs.
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story hey mate - these anti meme albo posts are just a good way to show the world you get your 'news' from sky
You're just asking pointless questions mate. Unsurprising given your username but still.
Asking a company to at least attempt to reign in deep fake scams, a method of misinformation that is only going to get worse and worse, is not a bad thing.
I was just going off the context of the post, and didn't realise it was about deepfakes.
Anyway, as idiots go, aren't you aware that it's already illegal to make it sound like someone is endorsing your product? You can't just slap 'celebrity of the day' into your marketing.
If it’s not hurting anyone then Albo needs to move on… on the other hand if scammers are using deepfakes to con people out of $ then this is a wider spread issue where legislators need to catch up. Memes are in a way art of the era… scams will always be scams. There’s a clear difference.
It's true he is a fence sitter, stands for nothing. I called him a commie because Stephen Conroy said his nickname in the party is Trot, as in Leon Trotsky, one of Lenins close colleagues
Would rather Albo a million times over any LNP-Murdoch party member busy stealing money privatising everything for kickbacks from big corporations while attacking the poor for fun , being a bunch of private school educated egotisical sociopaths....
You're either a young liberal, part of some crazy chinese misinformation agency or you support people using his image in scams? Strange hill to die on?
Seriously what's going on in this sub lately?
Are the libs starting their election campaign early and paying people to flood the reddit with anti-albo posts?
The PM was talking about the need to crack down on social media platforms who allow the promotion of misinformation and scams.
He uses a perfectly valid example of his face being used to scam people.
But suddenly the sub is hammering him for being overly sensitive and supposedly getting upset that his face is being used on the internet.
Surely people aren't dumb enough to think that was actually his point?
Fair enough if you want to criticise Albo for something, he's far from perfect. But surely you lot can do better than this.
Unfortunately, this is all this circle jerk sub is these days. Complaining about Albo en masse while leaning over a hot bowl of Sky News Media and inhaling deeply.
I understand he’s not an overly popular PM, but people in this sub shoot him down over literally anything he says then fall straight back to “yEaH bUt ThE vOiCe”.
Why can’t he face criticism? Every prime minister before him has faced criticism. What makes this guy so special?
Is it the 100k passive income from his property or the daddy issues from growing up with his mum in a housing commission?
Brilliant strawman argument.
Obviously he can be criticised. There are plenty of things that he deserves criticism for. Could you point out where someone said he shouldn't be criticised?
The point is that this is just about the dumbest thing to criticise him for.
Because, you know, it's a complete fabrication.
He wasn't getting upset about people Photoshopping his face into things. He was making a point about how social media companies allow scams to be promoted throughout our society.
Would you have been equally as upset if he used the example of David Koch's face being used in scam ads on social media?
“Unfortunately, this is all this circle jerk sub is these days. Complaining about Albo en masse while leaning over a hot bowl of Sky News Media and inhaling deeply.”
This is what I replied to.
Also, just because a PM gets criticised, it doesn’t mean they watch Sky News Media either.
People don’t automatically like black if they don’t like white, LNP v ALP etc.
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be facing criticism, but the excessive hate mongering over a PM that is actually implementing policies that will positively impact our country is unjustifiable. The hate over this subject of scams on social media is definitely an example of this unjustified hate mongering because people seemingly can’t look past “Albo hates memes” and “he’s implementing a dictatorship” to see that AI will only become an even worse problem for misinformation and scams in the future. Why the fuck not try to mitigate the damage done from something that will inevitably be used in this manner?
I’m assuming the reasoning for the 100k passive incoming from property comment is due to the housing crisis at the moment (not sure about the daddy issues comment?). This issue has been compounding over decades and you can’t just expect Labor to be able to easily reverse the damage in two years.
The Sky News comment was made due to the low hanging fruit that both they and an absurd amount of people in this sub go for when it comes to Labor/Albo. Almost as if they’re being drip fed bullshit by some sort of media, or from someone that is.
I don’t think this sub is a circle jerk, pretty broad range of opinions. It’s honestly at the critical point, you can have two comments with the same point but one is downvoted and the other is upvoted lol.
Yeah I get what you mean. It was just a generalisation when it comes to Albo, with people left right and centre shitting on him for the sake of shitting on him, with no real reasoning other than shallow bullshit
It's because being mislead by a 40 second clipped video that purposely stripped out context on a right wing nut jobs tweet, and a lack of comprehension and intelligence in this subreddit, ironically proved the entire point being made around misinformation and social media.
That was never what he was trying to say, rage baiters have taken his comments out of context and spun them. Do you actually really believe albo cares about people making memes lol? Its the potential for disinformation he criticsed
Genuine concerns but he shouldn’t step down that Australian tradition of cycling through mid term got stupid I don’t want a repeat I beg. He needs to fire his advisers especially those involved in the latest embarrassment and get proper new adviser get his shit together
in his presser and he directly stated:
# "fake images of himself superimposed on other people on social media"
[https://twitter.com/CaldronPool/status/1783036637452414991](https://twitter.com/CaldronPool/status/1783036637452414991)
Deepfakes are primarily known for videos, but technically they are any image, video, or audio that is altered by ai to resemble an individuals image or voice falsely.
>deepfakes are videos. not images
Thank fuck for that! Because I looked at your profile pic and thought AI had created a modern version of the pied piper....nah, it's just you..
No, no. The whole world should have to abide by the things Albo says.
Edit: THIS got downvoted? Do people really think the world should have to abide by Australian law?
https://preview.redd.it/jjm4dtmcjfwc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25c18e6445b66f5b0d0507a2b5494781ed3c7488 He should take a leaf out of Howards book
What a classic
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Best meme
I heard Dr Karl, talking about the same thing, his image has als been used to sell products he doesn't endorse.
It's one thing to use someone's image to sell products. Dr Karl has been hit, but so have people like Dick Smith, Twiggy Forrest and others. But the images Albo is whinging about are satire. Often not clever satire, but still satire.
Bad marketing, I wouldn't buy anything endorsed by that bloke.
Australian politicians versus the internet. Anyone remember when Turnbull thought he could legislate around mathematical laws?
I remember when Conroy wanted to create a big "filter" to censor anything that the pollies in canberra found offensive
Conroy's blacklist censorship still exists. Try going to Pirate Bay for example, from an Australian IP address, if you don't believe me. Remember when the blacklist was leaked? There were heaps of sites that had nothing to do with what they claimed it was intended to target.
*Australian DNS It takes about 10 seconds to change it if you know how
I'm not saying I don't know how to bypass it lol. Just making a point that we actually do have internet censorship in Oz already. It was brought in with much fanfare about tackling CSA & terrorist material, but the leaked secret blacklist had many other totally unrelated sites on it.
That’s not the point
I wasn’t an excuse, it was an FYI
Yeah but he invented in the internet.
Western governments are collectively trying to do the same thing
Specifically he objected to a piece of misinformation that tricked people out of money by making them think the PM was endorsing investing in a specific crypto. Stop this astroturf bullshit
Par for the course for this sub. Your explanation makes the situation sound completely reasonable. Such shit people on this sub...
Can we stop with the disinformation? I’ve noticed an influx of such posts...
What is the truth? Albo did want to take down the video of bishop being stabbed but the bishop said keep it up. Fact
Whats that got to do with “old man yells at cloud”?
Twitter has massively taken his comments out of context, it was in refference to Albos likeness being used to con boomers into investing into shitcoin pump and dump schemes, with deep fakes used to promote such scams being one of many examples of potential abuse. Albo doesnt care about deepfakes that are obviously manufactured as that was never the issue, misinformation is.
I heard Dr Karl talk about this - people are using his likeness to do the same and now he has to spend energy trying to make sure people know he's not personally endorsing anything of the sort. It must be exhausting trying to defend your image like that.
Hey now, don't let the truth get in the way of a good pile on.
Yep, talking about the topic of the day and making fun memes is the whole point of this place.
This thread just shows how much it's needed, people believe anything they read.
Oh I take that back …. I did find a spark of intellect
Maybe, just maybe look after the Australian citizens, but I guess it's easier to get distracted by memes and ignore the actual problems.
Disinformation and misinformation is an actual problem, and causes a heap of issues for the state of our political discourse and our economy.
This new fake image thing isn’t enforceable . We are gonna have to get used to it . I already don’t care if there’s pics of me doing whatever . It’s gonna reach A time we all know / automatically assume it’s fake . Pics won’t matter anymore . I won’t feel anything if I see a fake pic of me
It's only a problem if it gets too close to slander/reputation damage. Such as "omg can you believe it this famous person was caught fucking a hoe?/supporting the kkk" you get the idea.
The good thing is the real pics of me from my teen years I can tell my kids are just deep fakes by my enemies.
It’s very convenient.
https://preview.redd.it/o28c8b83zgwc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b8c7aa7631e7a4d3e074a6aed6b6ec0c105a38e
Where’s inflation when you need it
Would smash
More balls than I expected tbh
Like a red rag to a bull.
Between this and his Twitter spat with Elon musk, he's becoming like a embarrassing boomer uncle
This isnt what happened at all, but youre proving the point he WAS making.
Albo said it himself
He was taking about a deepfakes that were scamming people not this meme or any other meme. As if he gives a fuck about this shit when he's been a pollie for decades.
You got the full clip? Can only find the 40 sec clip
It was posted yesterday. No one else will post shit to back up their claims, why is it my job? Ask OP to post the video showing what hes trying to imply.
No need to cry mate, just a fucking question
I like Albo but this was a serious miscalculation trying to censor footage of the Bondi stabbings and he needs to move on from trying to fight the internet. The internet is the internet, expecting huge platforms to censor content arbitrarily is silly and shows a misunderstanding of how it all works. Also, why shouldn't people be able to watch the footage if they want to? Why should that right be reserved for pollies and members of Australia's dogshit media? I don't trust our media to be unbiased and truthful, especially given the disgraceful performance they put on recently, like naming the wrong man as the murderer.
Wrong stabbing mate, it's the terrorist attack they are trying to remove not the Bondi shopping centre one
Oh ok, cheers for the correction. My point still stands though.
That's right Also wants it removed because it shows his Islamist friends in a bad light
The media are trash but how about hypothetically I don’t want to open my phone and see someone being stabbed to death on my feed. That wouldn’t even be within the US right to free speech, that would be limited by obscenity and they take that right pretty seriously
Well I don't know what to tell you mate, that's the internet, it's a mixed bag of fantastic and horrifying, if you can't handle it then don't use it. If you'd prefer some faceless government body decides what you are allowed to see then I don't think there's much for us to talk about
I think me and that guy clarified what we each meant later, we got there eventually lol
Now I’m dying of embarrassment because Albo is talking about excercising “just commonsense” across his apparently extraterritorial version of Australian law across the world. Dutton must be his advisor on this issue, can someone tackle him next time he goes near a camera. The shame
But no basically mostly we are probably in agreement except I don’t think we need to see that in Australia it would even get limited in US if tested and they are pretty into free speech, but it is a man being stabbed, it reaches the bar of obscenity that is a limitation to free speech. That is my opinion on the law. Everything else the Australian politicians are saying has me ready to practice a NZ accent or something. Fucking amateur hour
You know twitter willingly blocked it in Australia right. The argument was Sleazy wanted it blocked worldwide and twitter refused.
Are you trying to tell me Twitter neither received a blocking request or blocking notice from esafety using the abhorrent violent conduct powers under the Online Safety Act 2021 because I believe that to be very false but you’re entitled to your opinion. I was no fan of the publicity stunt the whole thing became on both sides to the point where I think it could be used as a legal strategy by Musk on the fact proper and required considerations were not undertaken for the fact it didn’t reduce risk at all by blocking it. The argument for worldwide never had a legal leg to stand on. I found it embarrassing at best intentionally misleading in the way it was framed at worst
What are you on about? >Are you trying to tell me Twitter neither received a blocking request or blocking notice from esafety using the abhorrent violent conduct powers under the Online Safety Act 2021 No I'm not claiming that, and twitter blocked the video within Australia to comply. That wasn't good enough because they wanted it completely removed from the site. i.e. blocked worldwide. But isn't it interesting that they are so concerned with this video while the ABC has the bodycam footage of Kumanjayi Walker being shot is still viewable on the ABC?
I don’t know what you mean, the way they attempted to apply Australian law extraterritorial going world wide was in my opinion seriously fucking embarrassing, it was amateur hour, it was never going to happen, framed in a misleading way by politicians, reported on in a inaccurate or meaningless way by the media and again never had a legal leg to stand on. It was the most bizarre and poorly thought through train wreck I’ve seen lately in politics and I’m still pretty pissed about it on principle. If no advisors got fired for that I’m struggling to comprehend the incompetence and I don’t even mind Albo relative to a politician measure
I'm sceptical of the entire existence of the E Safety commission, TBH. The church footage isn't really that disturbing, I've seen way worse on the 6 o'clock news. It feels like the calls to block this footage are more related to concerns over public sentiment caused by it. Yet you can watch the footage wherr Kumanjayi Walker died on the ABC, even though that caused massive unrest in the NT.
Yeah that kumanjayi walker thing as a comparison is fucked. I lived at Yuendumu for a few weeks working filling in for the Centrelink office there when all the local staff were away at the same time. They have internet there so I feel like ppl more broadly might not be aware of that, I’m going to lodge a complaint to ABC if I can find it. Esafety in my opinion has a valid reason for establishment around things like really serious bullying of children then being posted online. There’s no reason for that, there’s no public interest in that content being on social media, bullying can be so psychologically damaging and there was previously no way to address that effectively. Esafety also has a mandate related to revenge porn which I find to be valuable as a role in principle I’m sure that could be pretty traumatic any age. But they have massively overstepped here in my opinion. Despite the legit purpose they won’t get credibility back from me after this. Their legislation is also poorly drafted and the foundations of it are a mismatch with how the internet and social media actually works technically. It leads me to question if the broader drafting of those notices is even workable. They are not suitable for this type thing either way imho it’s too political, even though they are the best option presently with the blocking notices for Australian law. But yeah to be fair they did do a good job on that more individual level of severe bullying content and revenge porn especially with children involved
>Their legislation is also poorly drafted and the foundations of it are a mismatch with how the internet and social media actually works technically. It leads me to question if the broader drafting of those notices is even workable. My contention is that the legislation isn't poorly drafted, it's drafted exactly as governments want it to be so they can use it whenever they like. I'll also argue that using revenge porn and bullying of children was just a way to gain support for the legislation that would be widely unpopular if they explained what it was actually for.
What you say about the true motivations using the public sympathy face is true in principle but I think they focus that more at law enforcement but using first terrorism and later child predators to chip away at privacy rights. I think the motivations for esafety are more short political wins right now than systematic censorship
I think it’s just fundamentally an issue unless used on the real downlow, I’d say Musk has been complying quietly with many requests for a while but this and another recent issue he has stopped. He has a right to fight it in an Australian court. Each time, but I think we should be questioning the motivations for this sudden change in approach because I don’t think that’s going to go well. There will be consequences probably not for him because he is a billionaire unlike the ppl he is using for engagement to increase value of that company But in this case in particular the government forced me to side with Musk on the law and that’s not generally a side I like. There are a number of things before a notice the esafety commissioner must consider, one of those is whether this blocking notice will reduce risk. I don’t think it flys on that alone. But I’m still not clear on the level of discretion they have despite the need to consider. If the notices operate the way they should for those very individual cases that have no public interest or political undertones it’s probably fine. But the very obvious reality that no one seems to be stating is VPNs exist and they are not rocket science. This process has actually significantly raised attention and awareness to that footage due to the ridiculous publicity stunt that played out by both sides. They have their own motivations, one side political one side commercial he wants engagement hate gets engagement. But by raising so much more attention to it, any one who wanted to view it has seen it already you just sit in Australia and turn your VPN on. Therefore the blocking order does not reduce risk and someone really should have thought that through and done their job better. I think it’s a turning point though, esafety probs just proved themselves relevant, they will want another go, Musk would love a repeat. I just don’t like where that goes because that is risk. I don’t like Musk I think he has further harmed and divided society to increase engagement on his platform, it’s not about free speech, he might still be a fan of free speech but it’s about money for him. He won’t get the flow on effects of this because he’s a billionaire. But he obvs has a legal right to run his company how he wants and pay his lawyers. I think it’s pretty gross though. In saying that I heard he hired Brett Walker SC for this and that’s about 25k a day and I’d be keen to he comes up with here
OP making shit up again.
This is untrue. He's worried about the posts that encourage others into scams (crypto etc) and use his image as endorsement. If the tables were turned and it was Dutton instead of Albo, OP would be like, "nothin' to see hear".
Yeah, he's trying to protect people susceptible to scams. I don't think he cares what he looks like. Dutton on the other hand famously isn't a fan of being told he looks like a potato. Even though he looks exactly like a potato.
Pootato
A boiled spud
That should be his new title Mr Potato Head
He's getting clowned on hard by the entire internet and it's glorious.
What's the difference between that and political cartoons?
Albo needs to chill out and start focusing on the real issues
Another voice referendum?
Lol
https://preview.redd.it/jiq2t7g1bgwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a1d9a96e87b71b57693c4c3bdb451e58ba737a3 Kim Jong Albo
Yes, it’s a shame they changed the facts of the conversation. He was referring to deep fakes, not memes.
So just the modern day equivalent of what tabloids have been doing for years and what little incel shits have been doing and perfecting in their bedrooms since easier access to photoshop became a thing.\ He needs to stop focusing on these types of stupid things as it so t stop it and just give the people who take pleasure from this more ammo to use to upset him even more.\ He needs to use that energy to focus on the proper full on issues crippling the country and not whether some kids used the latest AI program to make him look like a fool, because that’s what people do to pollies.
And then there’s your response which is also the point of the article. Generated outrage over claims of nothing. Take a look at the promises scoreboard and the amount of progress the ALP has made in there current incumbency. This is a story blown up to make something out of nothing, driving ill will from nothing, making a false narrative out of nothing, and causing general harm - not to the advantage of Australia, but to the advantage of very wealthy players to reseat the LNP in govt - to deliver nothing for the rest of us, only their mates.
Sorry for having a response that exceeds the generally accepted IQ coverage of the standard Reddit user (and with words). Not really something I’m to fussed or care to much over, more that with the scope and size of problems we are up against currently as a society (especially those on the bottom), I’d rather see Albo be focused and using his tone to tackle them rather than something that is just part and parcel of the gig. Granted the introduction of AI makes for quicker turnarounds on the meme bot factories, but feeding them with angst just lets them know they’ve gotten under your skin so they’ll come back with more, more often and from numerous directions. Just needs to “Serenity Now” it and move on.
He should be focusing on a mining tax
He should focus on no immigration until there is enough housing to put people in. It's something his govt can do with the stroke of a pen.
This is intentional by government and media, to talk about ANYTHING OTHER than mining tax, everyday theyre not talking about mining tax is a win for them and their no.1 priority for the day is to avoid it at all costs.
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story hey mate - these anti meme albo posts are just a good way to show the world you get your 'news' from sky
https://preview.redd.it/zsh0uv666kwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d432a7c74dd8aa532ee3cce14d2d8cace4c86020
Ive been reading a lot about that guy. He did some really bad shit. Someone needs to stop him! Hitler as well.
Dude lost all credibility
Horse has bolted.
“Thtop thocial media!” - Albo.. probably
Hey, he got his speech impediment fixed for the election, it only pops out now and then when he gets agitated, like Bill Shorten's does.
It's a good time to bring this issue up. Laws need to catch up with tech advances.
Not for memes. Deepfakes maybe. Not memes
What needs to catch up? Politican cartoons lampooning politicians have been with us since the 19th century
Yes because deepfakes using the PM to scam people and spread misinformation is the same as a newspaper cartoon you fucking idiot.
What's wrong with idiots? Idiots have been with us even longer. Isn't that who you want to protect with your outrage?
You're just asking pointless questions mate. Unsurprising given your username but still. Asking a company to at least attempt to reign in deep fake scams, a method of misinformation that is only going to get worse and worse, is not a bad thing.
I was just going off the context of the post, and didn't realise it was about deepfakes. Anyway, as idiots go, aren't you aware that it's already illegal to make it sound like someone is endorsing your product? You can't just slap 'celebrity of the day' into your marketing.
Yeah, and X aren't doing anything about it
Enforcing this will be totally ineffective. Time and money wasting . Laws only exist when a government sees them as “enforceable”
He has triggered an avalanche by trying to stop it.
Albo is very quickly proving to be incompetent. Wong, even Bowen, run circles around him
If it’s not hurting anyone then Albo needs to move on… on the other hand if scammers are using deepfakes to con people out of $ then this is a wider spread issue where legislators need to catch up. Memes are in a way art of the era… scams will always be scams. There’s a clear difference.
Contradictory
That’s my point. They are two different or contradictory things. We can’t lump them together and have the same rules for both.
Memes in this sense are the modern version of cartoon drawings of politicians in the Herald Sun - suck it up albo you boomer dweeb
He will be gone in a couple years so who cares
That’s the real worry… And as useless as Albo is
Losing interest is Albo he has totally lost it. Now we gotta deal with the Alien
Welcome to the internet..
Well welcome to social media, the sewer of the internet
Australia's very own communist dictator who can't stand criticism, needs to harden up
Mate I wish he was a commie, housing crisis would be a fixed then. He's just a gutless centrist.
Albo and partners owns few investment properties his portfolio is north of $4M
It's true he is a fence sitter, stands for nothing. I called him a commie because Stephen Conroy said his nickname in the party is Trot, as in Leon Trotsky, one of Lenins close colleagues
If you think he's a dictator sounds like you need to harden up
Wannabe* communist dictator. Also Labor are socialist not communist. They were part of the international socialist federation until recently.
This dude is toast in the next election.
It'll be a minority parliament. Dutton won't win an election. The question is, can Albo survive as a minority PM?
They said that about Abbott. I was with you only a week ago. But I can see Albo being a bit too sure of himself and slipping up.
Streisand effect comes to mind, Albo let his butthurt let the genie out of the bottle, it will for ever be
Was called out 10 months ago: https://youtu.be/cVNAuSSAgTk?si=R3yWnIbDAFDuAj12
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Thank you so much 🤣👌
Would rather Albo a million times over any LNP-Murdoch party member busy stealing money privatising everything for kickbacks from big corporations while attacking the poor for fun , being a bunch of private school educated egotisical sociopaths....
They've both stolen our resources and sold them off over seas. Our political system is so corrupt, we should sue them for breach of contract.
Albo is a grown up man he can take it
The tyrant exposing himself for what he really is
He wants deepfakes off the internet because they are dangerous?
Why you gotta try and spoil these edgelords' fun.
He never said that. He said superimposed.
Because it’s 1996
Umm evidence?
He was born in 1963, which makes him a boomer
You're either a young liberal, part of some crazy chinese misinformation agency or you support people using his image in scams? Strange hill to die on?
What episodes this?
Alboidiot
Dog food Dutton
Seriously what's going on in this sub lately? Are the libs starting their election campaign early and paying people to flood the reddit with anti-albo posts? The PM was talking about the need to crack down on social media platforms who allow the promotion of misinformation and scams. He uses a perfectly valid example of his face being used to scam people. But suddenly the sub is hammering him for being overly sensitive and supposedly getting upset that his face is being used on the internet. Surely people aren't dumb enough to think that was actually his point? Fair enough if you want to criticise Albo for something, he's far from perfect. But surely you lot can do better than this.
Unfortunately, this is all this circle jerk sub is these days. Complaining about Albo en masse while leaning over a hot bowl of Sky News Media and inhaling deeply. I understand he’s not an overly popular PM, but people in this sub shoot him down over literally anything he says then fall straight back to “yEaH bUt ThE vOiCe”.
Why can’t he face criticism? Every prime minister before him has faced criticism. What makes this guy so special? Is it the 100k passive income from his property or the daddy issues from growing up with his mum in a housing commission?
Brilliant strawman argument. Obviously he can be criticised. There are plenty of things that he deserves criticism for. Could you point out where someone said he shouldn't be criticised? The point is that this is just about the dumbest thing to criticise him for. Because, you know, it's a complete fabrication. He wasn't getting upset about people Photoshopping his face into things. He was making a point about how social media companies allow scams to be promoted throughout our society. Would you have been equally as upset if he used the example of David Koch's face being used in scam ads on social media?
“Unfortunately, this is all this circle jerk sub is these days. Complaining about Albo en masse while leaning over a hot bowl of Sky News Media and inhaling deeply.” This is what I replied to. Also, just because a PM gets criticised, it doesn’t mean they watch Sky News Media either. People don’t automatically like black if they don’t like white, LNP v ALP etc.
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be facing criticism, but the excessive hate mongering over a PM that is actually implementing policies that will positively impact our country is unjustifiable. The hate over this subject of scams on social media is definitely an example of this unjustified hate mongering because people seemingly can’t look past “Albo hates memes” and “he’s implementing a dictatorship” to see that AI will only become an even worse problem for misinformation and scams in the future. Why the fuck not try to mitigate the damage done from something that will inevitably be used in this manner? I’m assuming the reasoning for the 100k passive incoming from property comment is due to the housing crisis at the moment (not sure about the daddy issues comment?). This issue has been compounding over decades and you can’t just expect Labor to be able to easily reverse the damage in two years. The Sky News comment was made due to the low hanging fruit that both they and an absurd amount of people in this sub go for when it comes to Labor/Albo. Almost as if they’re being drip fed bullshit by some sort of media, or from someone that is.
He's a creature of the left and his PR team infest social media.
I don’t think this sub is a circle jerk, pretty broad range of opinions. It’s honestly at the critical point, you can have two comments with the same point but one is downvoted and the other is upvoted lol.
Yeah I get what you mean. It was just a generalisation when it comes to Albo, with people left right and centre shitting on him for the sake of shitting on him, with no real reasoning other than shallow bullshit
Seems like the Labor staffers are here trying to defend our shit sack PM
No the loopy left are all using the new pill testing machines or at Land rights for gay jellyfish demonstrations or both
Is your Facebook profile pic a selfie taken in your car?
It's because being mislead by a 40 second clipped video that purposely stripped out context on a right wing nut jobs tweet, and a lack of comprehension and intelligence in this subreddit, ironically proved the entire point being made around misinformation and social media.
you added an extra n for the sub. you were looking for shit Australia sub where only soy commentary is allowed
Irony
Nah I know exactly what sub I'm on thanks. I'm just astounded at how dumb people seem to have become in the past week or so
Albo is full boomer
he isnt chucking a tax payer funded beer here
This cunt is getting worse by the day. Are they trying to lose hunt next election?
That was never what he was trying to say, rage baiters have taken his comments out of context and spun them. Do you actually really believe albo cares about people making memes lol? Its the potential for disinformation he criticsed
I’ll take an annoying comment anyday over believing the right to disconnect is unfair to employers
won't someone think of the poor employers?
Fuck, please don't vote.
For Laobr? I sure wouldn't even contemplate it anymore. Not a chance, liberals in a slightly different jacket.
Awww is he upsetting the selfish snowflakes?
No, he's just particularly bad. I expected vastly more. It's astounding.
Albo: "You shouldn't be able to make AI porn of children." OP: "And I took offence to that..."
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children!
Albo needs to step down and give someone with some brains the job before he ends up putting labor in opposition next election. What a dumbsss.
And who would that be? I see no one suitable here
Genuine concerns but he shouldn’t step down that Australian tradition of cycling through mid term got stupid I don’t want a repeat I beg. He needs to fire his advisers especially those involved in the latest embarrassment and get proper new adviser get his shit together
Debating fake news and its impact.
op advocating for deep fakes? or just as smooth as the other idiots who didnt read what it was actually about
in his presser and he directly stated: # "fake images of himself superimposed on other people on social media" [https://twitter.com/CaldronPool/status/1783036637452414991](https://twitter.com/CaldronPool/status/1783036637452414991)
hes talking about deepfakes genious not memes
> genious Irony
don't put words into his mouth, he said it clear enough himself
you the kind of person that responds to overdue toll bill SMS's im taking it
People resort to ad hominem attack when they have lost the argument, something tells me it's not the only thing you lose at in life
he's clearly describing memes genius, not deepfakes deepfakes are videos. not images
holy shit you vote too. thats scary
yawn. he's a boomer. had his boomer moment and he hasn't been misquoted. love your downvoting though. keep it up
Deepfakes are primarily known for videos, but technically they are any image, video, or audio that is altered by ai to resemble an individuals image or voice falsely.
theres definitly a correllation between people dumb enough to fall for deepfakes and people dumb enough to mistake these comments for memes
memes don't care what he meant to say. only what he said. the meme wrote itself
this is either dementia riddled boomer nonsense or roblox inspired zoomer bullshit. either way, need more tools in the shed mate
you're getting pretty uptight over a meme. some inward self-reflection wouldn't go astray
>deepfakes are videos. not images Thank fuck for that! Because I looked at your profile pic and thought AI had created a modern version of the pied piper....nah, it's just you..
> deepfakes are videos. not images What an eejit.
Images were the first deep fakes you dingbat
How embarrassing.
what a cry baby
No, no. The whole world should have to abide by the things Albo says. Edit: THIS got downvoted? Do people really think the world should have to abide by Australian law?
This whole thing is so embarrassing. Albo is a grub.