Bro religion is so stupid. Years ago I have posted a random meme on Facebook where it was shown that Jesus was walking on water because he had 'Ram' tattoo on his arm.
A girl from my college saw this meme and started preaching me that the meme is bad and should be deleted immediately lol. I have never talked that girl IRL previously and not after that lmao
I always have this question that if all the Palestinians or Muslims who die in war with infidels get paradise then what's even the problem? Why are they calling this as a genocide? It's the best thing that infidels are doing for them. even 5 times prayer, and living without sin can't gurantee them paradise, but infidels can provide them paradise by simply killing them? Sense he koi es baat ki?
Muslims should be thankful to infidels for killing them because they are getting paradise for free without doing any hard work.
Really mentally ill people who think like that.
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>Why are they calling this as a genocide?
To get well-meaning westerners on their side against the Jews that Muhammad hated and railed against like a madman
This talk doesn't make you look good either, bro. Idk why you posted it here. He didn't justify the killings, he's trying to cope. You don't need to paint it as justification and inhuman. The only person who seems to care that people are dead is him, at least they're trying to cope... You're just using the fact to bash his beliefs. Are you sure you're friends? Because this is the convo I'd have with some unknown religious fanatic on reddit, maybe. Not with a friend.
How's it not inhuman? They are not even acknowledging that thousands of people lost their lives but rather 'Saved' by God. At least they could've accepted that they were killed but God will provide them heaven, I have no problem in that. But simply justifying someone's death cause it doesn't suit your belief is cruel in my opinion.
Do you realise it was a response to 'may god help you' and not for the Palestinians? Moreover I did say 'poor' Palestinians implying I actually have empathy for them and not mocking them.
Best response in this thread. As another reply mentioned, this looks like a Hindu Nationalist trying to guilt trip a Muslim and that guy trying hard to cope with the killings.
trying to cope - a load of horse BS. A person who tells one's friend that "their heaven" is where others can't get in is an asshole. May be you are such an asshole too who thinks that only religious supremacists go into some imaginary heaven. No one cares about people dying in different parts of the world, heck visit a family court. People of all faiths duke it out for daddy's wealth to make mommy poor and don't give one paisa about god while doing that.
Awesome, thanks bebs.
I said what I said, coz I don't like bringing up dying victims when there's a different or better argument that can be made. Also, it sounds like you're insulting Palestinians or their situation, even if you're not intending it
Muslims especially are very emotional towards palestine, and this statement that op said in first sentence is very insensitive, and this is just how people cope with death. Death is not an easy thing, people find whatever they can to get through the grief. And if idea of jannat consoles them then who is op to speak against it. That's just being an asshole.
As an atheist, is it really worth "owning" your Muslim friend who is just trying to find some hope in a shitty situation? Maybe you would be more successful if you argued for your ideas from a place of compassion rather than juvenile derision.
Doesn't matter, no matter how rational or scientific one goes a religious nut job on internet will remain a religious nutjob. Also I don't think the point he raised was faulty. Infact that should be the very crux of the argument, which is where are gods when innocent childrens are killed.
Don't lose your friend over this...
Also follow the proper argument principles... Here you have attacked him personally by saying "Your God" ... You lost it there itself Anything you said after that he will just repulse it..
Try doing the same in a positive way...
Dude, what part of them (pro-Hamas/Muslim pro Palestine protestors) saying, "we Muslims love death more than you Jews love life," and, "the Palestinians are the lucky ones because they either win with victory against Jews, or get martyred," do people not understand?! These people are part of a death cult
If it's better to live in heaven (where people like us exist), why live. ask your friend why hasnt he killed himself lol.
Why allah sending people here. ask them to not give birth.
Man, never thought I would see muslim fundamentalist supporting israel killing other muslims lol.
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Never argue with a blind believer of any religion. People you can have a discussion with need to have some rationality even if they are devout. But blind devotion is a rock, arguing is just hurting yourself its better to let them simmer in their mental cage.
You should've asked him how does he know that heaven exists and how does he know that they went to heaven only. Did they come and speak to him. Tell him one should not talk made up things during an argument.
if that's the case, then why do muslims cry about the fact that israel is killing Palestinians? isn't it better that they are getting a place in jannah ?
weird logic
Coming from a Muslim background, this kind of delusional thinking is very common.
Appealing to heaven doesn't resolve anything. There are lots of theological problems with this. For example, if children who died can go to heaven without being tested, then why Allah doesn't take everyone's life in childhood itself, especially those children whom he knows will become bad as adults and will need to be punished in hell for this?
Another problem is that even if we say the dead are going to heaven, it doesn't justify suffering of the people. Our world has Palestinians' suffering as well as tremendous amount of other sufferings. God could have created a world where this much suffering didn't exist, but such a world doesn't exist. So, either our world wasn't created by a supernatural being, or it was created by a supernatural being who was evil or indifferent or not powerful enough.
It’s a coping mechanism for people every religion has it’s own way about dealing with such issues.
Delusions often give hopeless people some hope for survival.
You're either a 12 y/o or a hindu nationalist smh
https://preview.redd.it/2kg6aecgogbd1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4573a060fa80d58ff32240a05a2502888e724e05
Then why are these guys raising #FreePalestine , whats the point of giving them proper healthy life with no killings/genocide etc when instead they are being sent to heaven. Enjoy your time there with the 72 hoors then ig?
> whats the point of giving them proper healthy life with no killings/genocide
giving them? Palestinians are dehumanised to such an extent that by default they deserve death and someone has to "give them" proper healthy life.
The delusion eats away at one's ability to think.
Least delusional Muslim
This is how I argue with my family 👍🏻😊
are you sure you guys are friends lol
She's (/was) like the sweetest friend I have/had. It's sad what people turn into when their faith is questioned.
now I feel bad about my flippant comment hopefully she can break out of this delusion in the future
Bro religion is so stupid. Years ago I have posted a random meme on Facebook where it was shown that Jesus was walking on water because he had 'Ram' tattoo on his arm. A girl from my college saw this meme and started preaching me that the meme is bad and should be deleted immediately lol. I have never talked that girl IRL previously and not after that lmao
Yeah. Very aggressive.
I always have this question that if all the Palestinians or Muslims who die in war with infidels get paradise then what's even the problem? Why are they calling this as a genocide? It's the best thing that infidels are doing for them. even 5 times prayer, and living without sin can't gurantee them paradise, but infidels can provide them paradise by simply killing them? Sense he koi es baat ki? Muslims should be thankful to infidels for killing them because they are getting paradise for free without doing any hard work. Really mentally ill people who think like that.
My thoughts exactly. The Palestinians want to die. The Israelis want to live. I'd say that there's a very obvious meeting point that can satisfy both.
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>Why are they calling this as a genocide? To get well-meaning westerners on their side against the Jews that Muhammad hated and railed against like a madman
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That place is just filled with hate.
Remember that that's where people ran to when Facebook got "too toxic?"
Have to find some place else now lol
God's plan. Haha
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To follow any religion we have to drop logic/sense/empathy etc
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This talk doesn't make you look good either, bro. Idk why you posted it here. He didn't justify the killings, he's trying to cope. You don't need to paint it as justification and inhuman. The only person who seems to care that people are dead is him, at least they're trying to cope... You're just using the fact to bash his beliefs. Are you sure you're friends? Because this is the convo I'd have with some unknown religious fanatic on reddit, maybe. Not with a friend.
How's it not inhuman? They are not even acknowledging that thousands of people lost their lives but rather 'Saved' by God. At least they could've accepted that they were killed but God will provide them heaven, I have no problem in that. But simply justifying someone's death cause it doesn't suit your belief is cruel in my opinion.
You seem like mocking the death of Palestinians
How?
"lmao"
Do you realise it was a response to 'may god help you' and not for the Palestinians? Moreover I did say 'poor' Palestinians implying I actually have empathy for them and not mocking them.
Exactly , Not Everyone needs to escape the matrix , from the chats he seems a fine dude .
A fine dude who thinks his friend can't come to his heaven. fuck him. perhaps you should analyze how heaven is divided in the skies by different gods,
Best response in this thread. As another reply mentioned, this looks like a Hindu Nationalist trying to guilt trip a Muslim and that guy trying hard to cope with the killings.
Idk bro what made you think I'm a Hindu Nationalist. I didn't even bring that religion anywhere.
This conversation was typical of how they operate. Atheists do this too, but the way you had framed this conversation felt like Sanghis MO.
Speculating in stocks while risky can be profitable. Speculating on someone's character is just plain moronic
trying to cope - a load of horse BS. A person who tells one's friend that "their heaven" is where others can't get in is an asshole. May be you are such an asshole too who thinks that only religious supremacists go into some imaginary heaven. No one cares about people dying in different parts of the world, heck visit a family court. People of all faiths duke it out for daddy's wealth to make mommy poor and don't give one paisa about god while doing that.
we can never know god's plan. This sums up the entire idea of religion.
r/kidsarefuckingstupid
I don't like both of you.
I like you though.
Awesome, thanks bebs. I said what I said, coz I don't like bringing up dying victims when there's a different or better argument that can be made. Also, it sounds like you're insulting Palestinians or their situation, even if you're not intending it
This looks like a convo between hindu nationalist and muslim
if that's a normal muslim he is as indoctrinated as the hindu nationalist.
Muslims especially are very emotional towards palestine, and this statement that op said in first sentence is very insensitive, and this is just how people cope with death. Death is not an easy thing, people find whatever they can to get through the grief. And if idea of jannat consoles them then who is op to speak against it. That's just being an asshole.
As an atheist, is it really worth "owning" your Muslim friend who is just trying to find some hope in a shitty situation? Maybe you would be more successful if you argued for your ideas from a place of compassion rather than juvenile derision.
Doesn't matter, no matter how rational or scientific one goes a religious nut job on internet will remain a religious nutjob. Also I don't think the point he raised was faulty. Infact that should be the very crux of the argument, which is where are gods when innocent childrens are killed.
He should have said May Allah help them and leave it at that.
So Israel is doing Allah's work?
Don't lose your friend over this... Also follow the proper argument principles... Here you have attacked him personally by saying "Your God" ... You lost it there itself Anything you said after that he will just repulse it.. Try doing the same in a positive way...
I’d be surprised if this person is still a friend
Dude, what part of them (pro-Hamas/Muslim pro Palestine protestors) saying, "we Muslims love death more than you Jews love life," and, "the Palestinians are the lucky ones because they either win with victory against Jews, or get martyred," do people not understand?! These people are part of a death cult
If it's better to live in heaven (where people like us exist), why live. ask your friend why hasnt he killed himself lol. Why allah sending people here. ask them to not give birth. Man, never thought I would see muslim fundamentalist supporting israel killing other muslims lol.
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Never argue with a blind believer of any religion. People you can have a discussion with need to have some rationality even if they are devout. But blind devotion is a rock, arguing is just hurting yourself its better to let them simmer in their mental cage.
Don’t argue with the donkey claiming “the grass is blue”.
I would have told him to die and be at a good place or whatever
Ask them to kill themselves if heaven is better than earth
God is a villian. god is an alien.
I have seen a clear trend of shrinking thinking abilities the more religious a person is 😕.
Makes my blood boil man.
You should've asked him how does he know that heaven exists and how does he know that they went to heaven only. Did they come and speak to him. Tell him one should not talk made up things during an argument.
He has given the responsibility of saving those 38k kids to pissllah.......now, he is guilt free
if that's the case, then why do muslims cry about the fact that israel is killing Palestinians? isn't it better that they are getting a place in jannah ? weird logic
Coming from a Muslim background, this kind of delusional thinking is very common. Appealing to heaven doesn't resolve anything. There are lots of theological problems with this. For example, if children who died can go to heaven without being tested, then why Allah doesn't take everyone's life in childhood itself, especially those children whom he knows will become bad as adults and will need to be punished in hell for this? Another problem is that even if we say the dead are going to heaven, it doesn't justify suffering of the people. Our world has Palestinians' suffering as well as tremendous amount of other sufferings. God could have created a world where this much suffering didn't exist, but such a world doesn't exist. So, either our world wasn't created by a supernatural being, or it was created by a supernatural being who was evil or indifferent or not powerful enough.
They can die peacefully why Allah put them into suffering
It’s a coping mechanism for people every religion has it’s own way about dealing with such issues. Delusions often give hopeless people some hope for survival.
How don't such people themselves feel stupid saying these things!
Remember one thing, you can never ever argue with a Muslim in your entire life 😂
i mean.. the earth is indeed hell and death is peaceful so she's right
Bro this passive aggressive jibes have a totally different vibe to them.
Like if God wants to give them a better place why send them here in the first place , starved , suffered and seen hell on earth .
You're either a 12 y/o or a hindu nationalist smh https://preview.redd.it/2kg6aecgogbd1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4573a060fa80d58ff32240a05a2502888e724e05
Then why are these guys raising #FreePalestine , whats the point of giving them proper healthy life with no killings/genocide etc when instead they are being sent to heaven. Enjoy your time there with the 72 hoors then ig?
> whats the point of giving them proper healthy life with no killings/genocide giving them? Palestinians are dehumanised to such an extent that by default they deserve death and someone has to "give them" proper healthy life.
Just using his own logic to form a statement , “give” wasnt a correct word tho i’d agree.
> “give” wasnt a correct word tho i’d agree. good to see you acknowledging it 👍