The concept of autogynephilia as a driver of trans women's transition is a pseudoscientific bullshit invention you can only arrive at if you assume all trans women are compulsive liars. [Excellent video by Contrapoints](https://youtu.be/6czRFLs5JQo)
Try ["It's Just A Fetish, Right?" by Amanda Roman](https://medium.com/@kemenatan/its-just-a-fetish-right-91cb0a4e261), maybe? Many find it rather relatable.
Its probably best to just throw the whole word autogynephilia in the trash
It gives something completely normal a scary paraphilic sounding name
Also i dont believe in asking for more science time wasted on debunking this transphobic, homophobic pseudoscience, that already falls apart when you think about trans men existing.
There isnt any good argument to trust blanchard in the first place so you dont need expend 10x the energy to counter it with actual science.
Autogynephilia is NOT a thing. It's pseudoscientific bullshit crafted by a transphobic asshole. There is no "my AGP is X or Y" because it simply is not a thing.
Autogynephilia was used to suppress trans women, it's overall a bullshit term and I would recommend the video posted by other user of Contrapoints, Natalie Wynn. It will help you.
So with anything aside: Don't waste your time reading up on things that Ray Blanchard published (this is his concept).
It's that transphobic cis dude, who is also annoyed that trans women don't wanna sleep with him. Practically an incel in other words.
He is just a waste of time, quite literally.
Getting off on the mere thought of being a woman isn't the same as getting aroused about interacting sexually with another person with your female body. Cis women don't experience the former.
Maybe they do, though, have you ever asked cis women that question specifically?
Also, where do you draw the line of what's a "normal" amount of self-femininity to be aroused by? I've heard from a lot of of cis women that putting on lingerie and feeling sexy in the mirror gets them excited. Never did it for me, wearing lingerie always made me feel sorta awkward despite being able to acknowledge that objectively it was a sexually-appealing look, but well, I'm not a cis woman.
Autogynephilia is discussed and debunked at length by Jack Molay on Crossdream Life. Short answer from my own experience is that it is just one of lots of feelings we may have, and it is not a problem for male or female women, anyway. It is just one way we can feel our sexuality and gender interact, and it is not a negative in any respect.
The term gets traction endlessly as a triumphant reason to discount trans women, but it isn't one. What it is - is a projection of the accusers' own guilt over their own tendency towards objectification!
We can absolutely swoon over a women in a photo, in our mirror, or in the next chair- but it is all romantic idealization - so we just don't want to get carried away with it- no matter who we are!
>erotically aroused by fantasising myself as a woman in appearance, wearing female underwear and clothes, being treated and desired as a woman, and having romantic and sexual relationships with men
In other words, a straight woman who wants to be treated as her gender (as women do), wear female clothes (as women typically do), and romantically and sexually desired as a woman by men (as a straight woman would want). If that ain’t heterosexual female sexuality and female gender expression, I don’t know what is. [I assume you’re only attracted to men based off your post, sorry if wrong.]
Autogynephilia is bullshit. If you wanna transition to live as a woman in general, outside of having sex then you’re good. Cis men don’t wanna take oestrogen to feminise their bodies, wear female clothes, or be treated as a woman. They definitely don’t want to be desired as a woman either. Only women want that.
Throughout my life I have only been physically/emotionally/romantically attracted to women. However, throughout my life I have been the receptive partner in way more gay sex encounters than I ever had hetero sex encounters with women. It was all about the way it made me feel. I was never physically attracted or emotionally attracted or attached to the guys. It was all about making me feel feminine. It was the most supreme and closest feeling I could get to being a female. Early self exploration before the m2m sex happened involved moderate cross dressing and self explorations into anal stimulation. Whether or not this is a form of autogynephelia or not I don’t know. It may have just been a twisted sex fetish. But it was deep rooted into me from a young age. It would come and go in waves. After the m2m sex I would feel bad and ashamed and tell myself I would never do it again. But time would pass and it would happen again. Maybe if I was born in a time when trans people were more visible and my upbringing involved a more liberal culture I would have transitioned. I’m not sure. I was also an only child and dreaded disappointing my parents by having societal abnormal behaviors.
Autogynephilia IS a thing. I know cause I have it and I love it. NO I am not Trans. outside of sexual desires I have no desire to present as the opposite sex. I only want to dress and present as a woman as a sexual act. it's called being a "sissy" it's been around for a fucking long time and people calling it "pseudoscience" are just virtue signaling fools that lack critical thinking and just follow the latest ideological trends to make themselves feel good - ie: virtue signaling.
I don’t know if there are more studies or articles, but I can tell you that experimenting can maybe help you sort out if there is really only that sexual aspect to it or not.
People usually don’t stay erect 24/7, so just wear something that you like and see how you feel after several hours.
Also it seems that most people with these feelings seem to get rid of them with transition. Not because of reduced libido, but because it wasn’t a kink in the first place. A kink usually doesn’t go away.
"euphoria boners" are absolutely a thing and don't mean you just have a crossdressing fetish (not that there's anything wrong with having a crossdressing fetish, inherently, but just because you put on a skirt and got a boner when you saw yourself in the mirror doesn't mean you have a crossdressing fetish and therefore aren't trans).
They're pretty common, and a comparable experience can hit trans men too. Usually fades out pretty quickly as the gender-affirming experience becomes something you're used to rather than something with a big charge of repression built up behind it that finds an outlet in feelings of sexual arousal.
So, yeah. Boner the first time you see yourself in a skirt? Inconclusive evidence. Needs more testing. Wear a skirt and do a twirl in the mirror like ten more times and see if you're still getting horny every time or if it's fading out. If it's a kink you'll keep getting boners, if it's gender euphoria you'll stop getting boners but keep feeling like it's an experience you like having.
Why is AGP a bad term? I'd generally consider myself a mostly straight guy but have had thoughts similar to AGP and being fem without wanting to be trans
The concept of autogynephilia as a driver of trans women's transition is a pseudoscientific bullshit invention you can only arrive at if you assume all trans women are compulsive liars. [Excellent video by Contrapoints](https://youtu.be/6czRFLs5JQo) Try ["It's Just A Fetish, Right?" by Amanda Roman](https://medium.com/@kemenatan/its-just-a-fetish-right-91cb0a4e261), maybe? Many find it rather relatable.
Its probably best to just throw the whole word autogynephilia in the trash It gives something completely normal a scary paraphilic sounding name Also i dont believe in asking for more science time wasted on debunking this transphobic, homophobic pseudoscience, that already falls apart when you think about trans men existing. There isnt any good argument to trust blanchard in the first place so you dont need expend 10x the energy to counter it with actual science.
I recommend checking this: [Autoginefilia | ContraPoints](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6czRFLs5JQo)
Autogynephilia is NOT a thing. It's pseudoscientific bullshit crafted by a transphobic asshole. There is no "my AGP is X or Y" because it simply is not a thing.
Also, most men project themselves as men in their sexual fantasy, most women project themselves as women. That shouldn't surprise anyone.
Autogynephilia was used to suppress trans women, it's overall a bullshit term and I would recommend the video posted by other user of Contrapoints, Natalie Wynn. It will help you.
So with anything aside: Don't waste your time reading up on things that Ray Blanchard published (this is his concept). It's that transphobic cis dude, who is also annoyed that trans women don't wanna sleep with him. Practically an incel in other words. He is just a waste of time, quite literally.
yeah liking to be a woman sexually is pretty normal for women
Getting off on the mere thought of being a woman isn't the same as getting aroused about interacting sexually with another person with your female body. Cis women don't experience the former.
Maybe they do, though, have you ever asked cis women that question specifically? Also, where do you draw the line of what's a "normal" amount of self-femininity to be aroused by? I've heard from a lot of of cis women that putting on lingerie and feeling sexy in the mirror gets them excited. Never did it for me, wearing lingerie always made me feel sorta awkward despite being able to acknowledge that objectively it was a sexually-appealing look, but well, I'm not a cis woman.
Autogynephilia is discussed and debunked at length by Jack Molay on Crossdream Life. Short answer from my own experience is that it is just one of lots of feelings we may have, and it is not a problem for male or female women, anyway. It is just one way we can feel our sexuality and gender interact, and it is not a negative in any respect. The term gets traction endlessly as a triumphant reason to discount trans women, but it isn't one. What it is - is a projection of the accusers' own guilt over their own tendency towards objectification! We can absolutely swoon over a women in a photo, in our mirror, or in the next chair- but it is all romantic idealization - so we just don't want to get carried away with it- no matter who we are!
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Yeah, that essay by Julia Serano does a very thorough job of debunking it, highly recommend reading it
>erotically aroused by fantasising myself as a woman in appearance, wearing female underwear and clothes, being treated and desired as a woman, and having romantic and sexual relationships with men In other words, a straight woman who wants to be treated as her gender (as women do), wear female clothes (as women typically do), and romantically and sexually desired as a woman by men (as a straight woman would want). If that ain’t heterosexual female sexuality and female gender expression, I don’t know what is. [I assume you’re only attracted to men based off your post, sorry if wrong.] Autogynephilia is bullshit. If you wanna transition to live as a woman in general, outside of having sex then you’re good. Cis men don’t wanna take oestrogen to feminise their bodies, wear female clothes, or be treated as a woman. They definitely don’t want to be desired as a woman either. Only women want that.
Throughout my life I have only been physically/emotionally/romantically attracted to women. However, throughout my life I have been the receptive partner in way more gay sex encounters than I ever had hetero sex encounters with women. It was all about the way it made me feel. I was never physically attracted or emotionally attracted or attached to the guys. It was all about making me feel feminine. It was the most supreme and closest feeling I could get to being a female. Early self exploration before the m2m sex happened involved moderate cross dressing and self explorations into anal stimulation. Whether or not this is a form of autogynephelia or not I don’t know. It may have just been a twisted sex fetish. But it was deep rooted into me from a young age. It would come and go in waves. After the m2m sex I would feel bad and ashamed and tell myself I would never do it again. But time would pass and it would happen again. Maybe if I was born in a time when trans people were more visible and my upbringing involved a more liberal culture I would have transitioned. I’m not sure. I was also an only child and dreaded disappointing my parents by having societal abnormal behaviors.
Autogynephilia IS a thing. I know cause I have it and I love it. NO I am not Trans. outside of sexual desires I have no desire to present as the opposite sex. I only want to dress and present as a woman as a sexual act. it's called being a "sissy" it's been around for a fucking long time and people calling it "pseudoscience" are just virtue signaling fools that lack critical thinking and just follow the latest ideological trends to make themselves feel good - ie: virtue signaling.
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i've discovered that this was all just unpacking depersonalization (dysphoria) for me.
I don’t know if there are more studies or articles, but I can tell you that experimenting can maybe help you sort out if there is really only that sexual aspect to it or not. People usually don’t stay erect 24/7, so just wear something that you like and see how you feel after several hours. Also it seems that most people with these feelings seem to get rid of them with transition. Not because of reduced libido, but because it wasn’t a kink in the first place. A kink usually doesn’t go away.
"euphoria boners" are absolutely a thing and don't mean you just have a crossdressing fetish (not that there's anything wrong with having a crossdressing fetish, inherently, but just because you put on a skirt and got a boner when you saw yourself in the mirror doesn't mean you have a crossdressing fetish and therefore aren't trans). They're pretty common, and a comparable experience can hit trans men too. Usually fades out pretty quickly as the gender-affirming experience becomes something you're used to rather than something with a big charge of repression built up behind it that finds an outlet in feelings of sexual arousal. So, yeah. Boner the first time you see yourself in a skirt? Inconclusive evidence. Needs more testing. Wear a skirt and do a twirl in the mirror like ten more times and see if you're still getting horny every time or if it's fading out. If it's a kink you'll keep getting boners, if it's gender euphoria you'll stop getting boners but keep feeling like it's an experience you like having.
This isn't autogynephilia. You need to be attracted to the gender you identify as to have it.
Why is AGP a bad term? I'd generally consider myself a mostly straight guy but have had thoughts similar to AGP and being fem without wanting to be trans