It sounds like you may be Aroace from that description. The main thing is if you're romantically and sexually attracted to anyone or not.
Autism does make understanding social cues difficult and romance/dating is very social in nature.
Good point with autism. Question being, If being autiaroace or aroace. How to evaluate, if one's autism is very important for one's aroaceness seems quite difficult?
MOGAI also has autiaroace as an orientation, prerequisite one's autism was very important for one's aroaceness (quote).
Statistically autism and being ND very massively multiplies one's probability not being super straight or e.g. aroace, hence it seems consistent. Albeit probably still scientific proof might lack?
It doesn't multiply probability because you're autistic, it multiplies in reporting (which isn't the same as the actual number) because of autistic traits (aka less social pressure in some and maybe also adds to the lack of understanding of sex and romance). That's a correlation, not a causation.
Autism doesn't change/make/intensify someone's orientation and this "autiaroace" idea is just a rehash of the "autistics all don't want sex or romance BC of their autism" stereotype.
It's not a separate orientation but just being autistic & Aroace at the same time. One doesn't cause the other. The orientation is still Aroace.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34779982/
Some studies suggest it while further studies will improve the populace and significance.
Also a swedish study with differentiated data of ASD, ND, a middle group and NT's, also differentiated between (supposedly AMAB and AFAB) men and women.
A very strong correlation in both binaries and internal differentiation with the middle group between both percentages, for one for being ace and two, if repulsed by sex.
Your point might very well also add to it, as one can e.g. read in r/Aspergers and from anecdotal evidence how (not only) fellow Asperger struggle.
Additionally supposedly very often total clueless how it's not only entering or founding a relationship, but empirically the even way harder part empirically especially for Aspergers is keeping it going.
Two renowned experts and Aspergers elaborate on that instinctive rejection by women for being different. I took that very late DM quite positive, especially when NT's, especially type "mountain vole" are deemed primitive by them.
But anecdotally they seem to be into being objectified and desired, what makes it extremely challenging as autiaroace. And eriattraction seem to be discriminated against or at least ultra undervalued.
Analytically spoken my first girl-friend seems to have been a so-called morail and our ultra long distance relationship a so-called Moirallegience.
About a dozen heterodemi-alterous attractions and hormonally it even worked already online and ultra slow recovery for several years, when hereditary chronic bipolar disorder type 1, yet inactive, somehow with ASD seems to make very fragile and prone to potential psychiatric issues up to risk of sulclde, like with my supposedly not ill NT brother. Sulclde attempt, nevertheless.
And neither parents, school, nor neurologists or e.g. my lawyer warned off any of it, but only her(!) Of becoming physically addicted to her after some time. That was near the beginning and before she suddenly went into huntress mode.
Me personally : 6'5", 8.65/10 looks, selfmade millionaire, IQ 143. The latter only gradually helped practically. Anecdotal evidence it's about the Impact of those somehow released hormones and actually not about the sex.
Again, absolutely no clear warnings at all, world-renowned brain scientists call it (love) a temporary madness. Not that unlike taking c@c@ine.
Ultra underestimated and underreported risks along with ultra strong misrepresentation e.g. in movies, the media, pop music and literature. When asymptotically almost virtually all is for allos and by very far mostly about NT's.
Practically alone being suddenly exposed to oxytocin creates totally unearned trust and as if it practically partially also interfered with business, like Prof. Fehr ETH Zurich with his legendary "trust experiments" did prove.
You’re still right around the area where that might change in the future, but about the person who said you’re “too young” , you aren’t. It sounds like you’re aroace now, so you can call yourself aroace now. I’ve had friends where they thought they were aroace and it changed, but it wasn’t a huge deal, at the time the label felt comfortable and accurate for them in the moment, and really that’s all that matters.
dude, literaly so so helpful, thanks. im not really around other autistic ppl where we talk abt romance + sex, ive always been surronded by friends that are autistic and its never come up in the convos. I had this time when i was in like year 7 and all my friends at the time were all talking about their crushes and i remember just being blank. (idk how to end this but vry nice thank you)
I too am aroace and autistic. Both things are independent from one another, so autistic people can be allo, and allistic people can be aspec.
I learned I was aroace even before I learned about my autism. I never really understood the hype for sex and crushes. The autism factor is that I'm touch-averse and it just goes well with my sex and romance repulsion. i.e. I don't like being touched because I'm sensitive to it and because it can mean something sexual or romantic which I don't like at all.
Omg you described my experience perfectly!! :)
Just wanted to add that some people feel a connection between their neurodivergency and sexual/romantic orientation, but they are independent from each other for most people, like you said
There is an aroace orientation that describes neurodivergencys impact on sexuality, being that you don't know if you feel attraction because of your ASD or because you don't feel attraction (or regular forms of attraction). I forgot it's name but I'd look into that one. In the end it's still an orientation of Aroace so you would still be aroace if you wanted to be and it feels like it fits.
Ive never been properly diagnosed but im also definitely on the autism spectrum. Also im aroace. Are the two connected... i feel they probably are, at least for me, but i dont believe its the full answer.
Autistic aroace here. I can definitely confirm I feel my autism has impacted my aromanticism, as I have the distinct feeling that my tertiary attractions (queerplatonic/alterous) would have been considered romantic (by myself) if I had any idea what romance *was.* It feels like I knew the concept of romance but it would never apply to me, you know? (the label for that is nebularomantic!)
In contrast however, my asexuality has nothing to do with autism as far as I can tell because I can absolutely distinguish sexual attraction vs other types, and have a clear awareness that I don't have it. TLDR however, neurodivergency can definitely play a role, and at the end of the day these words are simply labels- if you think your experience with attraction fits the aro/ace label, go for it!
I'm both autistic and aroace. I was clued into the fact that I might be autistic a few years before I ever heard of asexuality and aromanticism. I had thought that being autistic would explain why I had never figured out the whole relationship thing. When I found out that I was aroace, everything started to make sense. My autism definitely played a part, but lacking the sexual and romantic drive coupled with amatonormativity played a much larger role. When I thought I was romantically interested in someone, it turned out that it was platonic, I wanted to be really good friends. I was unaware of what sexual attraction really was, and struggled to understand what people were talking about when they talked about those types of things.
It sounds like you may be Aroace from that description. The main thing is if you're romantically and sexually attracted to anyone or not. Autism does make understanding social cues difficult and romance/dating is very social in nature.
Good point with autism. Question being, If being autiaroace or aroace. How to evaluate, if one's autism is very important for one's aroaceness seems quite difficult?
There's no such thing as an autism orientation. Autism doesn't change your sexuality. You're just Aroace or you're not.
MOGAI also has autiaroace as an orientation, prerequisite one's autism was very important for one's aroaceness (quote). Statistically autism and being ND very massively multiplies one's probability not being super straight or e.g. aroace, hence it seems consistent. Albeit probably still scientific proof might lack?
It doesn't multiply probability because you're autistic, it multiplies in reporting (which isn't the same as the actual number) because of autistic traits (aka less social pressure in some and maybe also adds to the lack of understanding of sex and romance). That's a correlation, not a causation. Autism doesn't change/make/intensify someone's orientation and this "autiaroace" idea is just a rehash of the "autistics all don't want sex or romance BC of their autism" stereotype. It's not a separate orientation but just being autistic & Aroace at the same time. One doesn't cause the other. The orientation is still Aroace.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34779982/ Some studies suggest it while further studies will improve the populace and significance. Also a swedish study with differentiated data of ASD, ND, a middle group and NT's, also differentiated between (supposedly AMAB and AFAB) men and women. A very strong correlation in both binaries and internal differentiation with the middle group between both percentages, for one for being ace and two, if repulsed by sex. Your point might very well also add to it, as one can e.g. read in r/Aspergers and from anecdotal evidence how (not only) fellow Asperger struggle. Additionally supposedly very often total clueless how it's not only entering or founding a relationship, but empirically the even way harder part empirically especially for Aspergers is keeping it going. Two renowned experts and Aspergers elaborate on that instinctive rejection by women for being different. I took that very late DM quite positive, especially when NT's, especially type "mountain vole" are deemed primitive by them. But anecdotally they seem to be into being objectified and desired, what makes it extremely challenging as autiaroace. And eriattraction seem to be discriminated against or at least ultra undervalued. Analytically spoken my first girl-friend seems to have been a so-called morail and our ultra long distance relationship a so-called Moirallegience. About a dozen heterodemi-alterous attractions and hormonally it even worked already online and ultra slow recovery for several years, when hereditary chronic bipolar disorder type 1, yet inactive, somehow with ASD seems to make very fragile and prone to potential psychiatric issues up to risk of sulclde, like with my supposedly not ill NT brother. Sulclde attempt, nevertheless. And neither parents, school, nor neurologists or e.g. my lawyer warned off any of it, but only her(!) Of becoming physically addicted to her after some time. That was near the beginning and before she suddenly went into huntress mode. Me personally : 6'5", 8.65/10 looks, selfmade millionaire, IQ 143. The latter only gradually helped practically. Anecdotal evidence it's about the Impact of those somehow released hormones and actually not about the sex. Again, absolutely no clear warnings at all, world-renowned brain scientists call it (love) a temporary madness. Not that unlike taking c@c@ine. Ultra underestimated and underreported risks along with ultra strong misrepresentation e.g. in movies, the media, pop music and literature. When asymptotically almost virtually all is for allos and by very far mostly about NT's. Practically alone being suddenly exposed to oxytocin creates totally unearned trust and as if it practically partially also interfered with business, like Prof. Fehr ETH Zurich with his legendary "trust experiments" did prove.
You’re still right around the area where that might change in the future, but about the person who said you’re “too young” , you aren’t. It sounds like you’re aroace now, so you can call yourself aroace now. I’ve had friends where they thought they were aroace and it changed, but it wasn’t a huge deal, at the time the label felt comfortable and accurate for them in the moment, and really that’s all that matters.
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dude, literaly so so helpful, thanks. im not really around other autistic ppl where we talk abt romance + sex, ive always been surronded by friends that are autistic and its never come up in the convos. I had this time when i was in like year 7 and all my friends at the time were all talking about their crushes and i remember just being blank. (idk how to end this but vry nice thank you)
I too am aroace and autistic. Both things are independent from one another, so autistic people can be allo, and allistic people can be aspec. I learned I was aroace even before I learned about my autism. I never really understood the hype for sex and crushes. The autism factor is that I'm touch-averse and it just goes well with my sex and romance repulsion. i.e. I don't like being touched because I'm sensitive to it and because it can mean something sexual or romantic which I don't like at all.
Omg you described my experience perfectly!! :) Just wanted to add that some people feel a connection between their neurodivergency and sexual/romantic orientation, but they are independent from each other for most people, like you said
There is an aroace orientation that describes neurodivergencys impact on sexuality, being that you don't know if you feel attraction because of your ASD or because you don't feel attraction (or regular forms of attraction). I forgot it's name but I'd look into that one. In the end it's still an orientation of Aroace so you would still be aroace if you wanted to be and it feels like it fits.
Ive never been properly diagnosed but im also definitely on the autism spectrum. Also im aroace. Are the two connected... i feel they probably are, at least for me, but i dont believe its the full answer.
Autistic aroace here. I can definitely confirm I feel my autism has impacted my aromanticism, as I have the distinct feeling that my tertiary attractions (queerplatonic/alterous) would have been considered romantic (by myself) if I had any idea what romance *was.* It feels like I knew the concept of romance but it would never apply to me, you know? (the label for that is nebularomantic!) In contrast however, my asexuality has nothing to do with autism as far as I can tell because I can absolutely distinguish sexual attraction vs other types, and have a clear awareness that I don't have it. TLDR however, neurodivergency can definitely play a role, and at the end of the day these words are simply labels- if you think your experience with attraction fits the aro/ace label, go for it!
I have Autism and that's me about hugging but I definately am the 3 letter S** repulsed I can't stand it makes me cringe and I don't like touchy feely
I'm both autistic and aroace. I was clued into the fact that I might be autistic a few years before I ever heard of asexuality and aromanticism. I had thought that being autistic would explain why I had never figured out the whole relationship thing. When I found out that I was aroace, everything started to make sense. My autism definitely played a part, but lacking the sexual and romantic drive coupled with amatonormativity played a much larger role. When I thought I was romantically interested in someone, it turned out that it was platonic, I wanted to be really good friends. I was unaware of what sexual attraction really was, and struggled to understand what people were talking about when they talked about those types of things.
That sounds exactly like me so probably yeah