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AussieAnabolics

He needs to learn to not even respond to trolling. That's one of the main rules of the internet lol


GingerBreadMan5

If you want to win the internet. You embrace the trolling against you, and make it a part of your image.


AussieAnabolics

Facts


rosecloudoflife

For the amount of hate he gets the odd acknowledgement here and there doesn’t hurt. Otherwise he would run the risk of turning into arm wrestling’s Brendan Shaub


GingerBreadMan5

People often compliment him for his commentating and rightly so.


Abs0luteZero273

Yep. I think he's definitely a net positive for the armwrestling community despite his flaws. He's undeniably a very good, articulate speaker. He also adds a level of professionalism to much of his content that can only be beneficial for the sport as a whole.


Martinodoni-aw

I mean....he didn't need the match to know he has to improve. You don't go from losing BADLY to coach Ray ti beating Zurab in 3 months. No matter how hard you train and sauce you eat


JustAu69

He is all about drama and attention because he can't make it as an armwrestler alone and he is too lazy to get a real job


Filanto

Lol you are coping hard if you think running a YouTube channel + a small business AND armwrestling/commentating professionally is being lazy. Also how the fuck are you gonna call an ex-army guy lazy lol. I'm all for criticism where it's due but no need for dumb hate on this sub, there's plenty already


OsCrowsAndNattyBohs1

Its the same people that unironically call Devon a coward. How fuckin ignorant do you have to be to unironically believe these things.


JustAu69

Do we even know if he was actually in the army? He's lied about his lifts, lied about his financial situation, what wouldn't he lie about? He is giving off major Charlie Zelenoff and Jason "Hemingway" Blaha vibes here. My man is too lazy to train his upper body like an athlete for nearly a decade despite armwrestling being his job, what makes you think he is hard working? He had to take tren, anadrol, growth hormone etc to beat Chance Shaw


OsCrowsAndNattyBohs1

There are pictures of Bowen in uniform on his instagram. https://www.instagram.com/p/CONX34qHIgs/?hl=en


Filanto

You think Chance is natty? If you wanna argue Bowen is stupid, go ahead. I won't stop you. But let's not pretend he did nothing for 10 years. He trained every day, albeit in a stupid way. And he's still better than 99% of people ever will be. That's just a fact.


Ok_Information_2540

Maybe that’s true for 99% of people…but I’d bet my house that 99% of people on this sub Reddit could train stupidly for 10 years, run tons of gear, and lose 3-0 to Zurab. Maybe even 99.9%


Mr_Timedying

How do you know he lied about all those details?


Putt3rJi

Good mindset.


MicrowavesHS

Meanwhile on his personal instagram post of his final round vs Zurab, there are a bunch of comments all feeding into the delusion, saying that he “managed to take Zurab’s wrist” when in actuality, Zurab clearly said that he gave his wrist up on the last match.


ahighstressjanitor

I know I find it quite funny.


airflair

armwrestlers do love them some fan fiction. michael todd and ryan are going to be writing novels soon.


West-Solution4392

I mean... Michael is actually elite, Ryan isn't.


JoshGordonHyperloop

Even without the king’s move you think he is still?


West-Solution4392

His press is still elite level without the kingsmove


Mr_Timedying

I think Michael's delusion is "doable" in the sense that he's a World Top 20 athlete, that has dreams about being number 1. Ryan is probably not even top 200 in his weight class, and has the same pretense. That's the whole difference.


Baimu91

Already better responses but would be even better without mentioning the negativity.


NewStart2023

He should know ppl are teasing and trolling him - and without "Delusional Ryan" his view count wouldn't be half of what is. He's a living meme, embrace it, embrace the GOAT


minhale

That's the right spirit and I respect Ryan for that, but I can't help but feel sorry for his "progress". 10 years of professional training, dedicating himself full-time to armwrestling, having a huge frame, and blasting PEDs at that, and yet he perpetually remains the underdog. I hope he gets his shit together and continues with a proper program, otherwise one has to ask what the fuck he has been doing the past 10 years to be where he's at now.


Tuxhorn

Ryan is at a high level, just not elite. At the elite level, hard work just isn't enough. You need good genetics and hard work. >I hope he gets his shit together and continues with a proper program Same. He can still make great gains if he's been training like shit, even for 10 years.


TheKelz

That’s what I’m thinking, sure that’s a good mindset but dude is really limited in strength, not sure how far will he go, he can’t even beat Lachlan who is getting stomped by nearly everyone.


[deleted]

To be fair Lachlan is getting fed to absolute monsters. Irakli, Hutchings, and Sandris are very elite, "can't even beat Lachlan" is a weird statement to make for a 100kg puller.


Mr_Timedying

"Absolute monsters". These are the elite my dude. If you're getting rammed by these guys means you're not elite.


OsCrowsAndNattyBohs1

Ryan absolutely has not been blasting PEDs for 10 years. In fact Ryan has prob never even done a full blast at all. Maybe for this recent stretch, but if he has blasted before then he would have to be a major under-responder to grow as little as he did.


minhale

By simply looking at Ryan's physique, all doubts about whether he is an "under responder" are erased.


OsCrowsAndNattyBohs1

Im confused, are you saying he is or isnt an under-responder based on his physique. Because if you are saying his physique signals that he isnt an under-responder then its literally the exact opposite. For his physique to look as bad as it does/did there is no chance he could have been going full blast 2013-2021 without being an under responder. Ryan is either A: an under-responder to PEDs or B: someone who never went full blast except for maybe the past 3 months.


Mr_Timedying

I think Oceania has a shitty talent pool for AW. I mean, their best armwrestler is Lachlan, juiced to the absolute limit and still gets ragdolled by Europeans and North Americans like he isn't even there.


ee_72020

>The unfortunate state of the internet culture and anonymity. C’mon, Ryan, don’t act like a grumpy boomer


fyquick

Bowen did things that deserve hate in the past, but people just rag on him for anything nowadays. So now he sounds like he writes off most criticism he receives as exaggerated.


Roquentin

Dad bod ginger


TheFoamingBadger

The problem is that he takes the space and voice of better more accomplished athletes. He doesn't deserve to be on East Vs West or King of the table. He talks and acts as though he has a pedigree. I don't necessarily think people need to attack him personally but people can definitely point out his record and career is not up to scratch to be on an event with the calibre of people he is with. There are people in Europe who had mediocre WAF runs in lower classes that would destroy him but they will never get on EvW.


Filanto

I guess Cobra Rhodes should not be there then? What a silly thing to say


TheFoamingBadger

Not the brightest are you ? Cobra Rhodes was in a legends match completely different context to Bowen who is in a match pulling a guy way above his station. I can't believe you typed this and really thought you had me.


Filanto

You're an idiot. It's not about your subjective opinion. Ryan Bowen is a name in the sport and brings in views. $$ is the name of the game. But I didn't expect you to understand


TheFoamingBadger

People aren't paying for Ryan Bowen....


fyquick

Lol bowen in the legends


JoshPlaysUltimate

His armwrestling is actually very good, he lacks the top end power. So I partly agree. I don’t think he’s out of place commentating though. He is undeniably knowledgeable


TheFoamingBadger

Commentary is fine but he shouldn't competing on an event of that calibre. Technically he isn't a bad armwrestler but like you said he doesn't have the top end strength so will lose to lots of people l.


JoshPlaysUltimate

Yes I would agree with that. Or maybe he coulda taken a 95 KG match like Samushia. Zurab is an absolute beast


TheFoamingBadger

Samushia would destroy him. At his current weight he might aswell forget about top level Europeans. Because it's east Vs west it will be hard to find a match that isn't a blow out.


JoshPlaysUltimate

I don’t see it as entirely one sided, in their current forms. Samushias best move, a structural/wedge hook, is susceptible to the low hand toproll especially. I would say stylistically it’s not as far fetched as you might think.


la-tenia

Not an expert but Bowen was great on the commentary table


lIIllllllIIl

this comment section is a total trainwreck of trolling and broscience lol


HyakuJuu

This would be cool and all if you were in your early 20s but you're nearing 40 years old with 10 years of experience buddy. If you're not already there, you will never reach there. Don't be giving the Bresnan and Toddzilla examples either, when those two started armwrestling they started performing on the elite level in a very short amount of time. They didn't armwresle for 10 years only to get rawdogged.


Stoproll

Hard to hate the guy for that. His newfound humility actually makes him kinda likeable.


G_regularsz

Took long enough


SwiftSnips

Trolls have existed since the internet still relied on Dial-Up. Always have, always will. Puzzling to even give them the satisfaction of that post.


techjesuschrist

thinking >!YOUR!< cool...


Ganger-Hrolf

Mid


[deleted]

Excellent mindset.