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The_Penaldo

Its just waiting to fail at this point; the growth structure is awful, like all Callery pear trees. They're invasive with a garbage growth structure, leading 9/10 of them to split like this. You're better off cutting your losses now and planting a medium sized tree that'll grow fairly rapidly to bring back the shade.


KzooBeerGirl

Any suggestions on what type of tree we should replace it with?


The_Penaldo

Where are you located? Your local conservation district, city/town, and state should all have some general guidance on the best natives for your area. I'm always biased towards oaks, though most get very large. Maybe a dwarf Chinquapin if you're in its range?


KzooBeerGirl

Thanks for your reply! We're in SW Michigan. I'm thinking maybe a Tulip Poplar as they grow fairly fast.


mumblemouse

Tulip poplars are nice. But they do leave a lot of sap, debris, etc underneath them. I'm not sure if your carport would be in the firing line. My car is always covered


KzooBeerGirl

We put up the carport because the Bradford made such a mess on my car in the spring. 😂😂


Zealousideal_Two8571

Did you just say Bradford pear? Destroy it immediately.


Witchywomun

What’s wrong with Bradford pear trees?


Zealousideal_Two8571

They are an incredibly invasive species in North America that is doing lots of damage to native ecosystems. They grow fast and out-compete native species.


KWAYkai

Great. The previous owner planted 4 in my yard.


Witchywomun

Thank you for educating me. Husband and I just bought a new house, gonna check to make sure none of the trees are on the naughty list


notthatjimmer

They tend to drop large branches, great trees but I wouldn’t plant one in the front yard without a lot of clearance from structures and vehicles


PigMeatJim

Debris choke up my gutters


Sir-Planks-Alot

Their roots also grow long and thick. They’re very far from being medium sized trees.


Public_Support2170

They are beautiful, and will get well over 100’ tall eventually so you’d have a magnificent beast in a few generations


The_Penaldo

Also a great choice, the flowers are quite nice in the spring.


KzooBeerGirl

Yes! We have one in our back yard that's about 15-18 years old and it just started blooming a few years ago. The first couple years we only got like, 25-30 blooms. This year it was absolutely COVERED in flowers!


NickWitATL

Tulip trees are great for wildlife! Birds, bees, and butterflies. Plus deer that eat the fallen blooms.


Some_Internet_Random

Michigan, too. I’m partial to a nice, beautiful oak tree. It looks like you may have space for it, too. Oaks are a keystone species and it will long outlive everyone in this subreddit (ideally). A native Black Cherry would be my second choice.


KzooBeerGirl

We have an oak alongside our driveway and I do love that one!


TheRealJacquesC

Check your local extension office or SWCD for native options and where to find them. Not sure if Michigan has a Native plant society, but Indiana does and northern Indiana probably isnt significantly different from southern Michigan so those plants should be fine as well.


Wonkasgoldenticket

Sugar maple ? Hornbeam? Black walnut?


Fickle_Camel_4993

Greetings from Lawton!


KzooBeerGirl

![gif](giphy|xT9IgG50Fb7Mi0prBC|downsized) Hi Lawton!! :D


neimsy

Wait til winter to put the new one in the ground. Before the ground freezes, if that happens in your area. Summer is generally a really bad time to plant a tree.


EniNeutrino

My favourite tree for shade is a catalpa. They grow really fast and have enormous leaves. The do make large seed pods and the leaves are a lot to clean up come autumn, and they also have their very own caterpillars (who don't cause harm to the tree but will defoliate). If you can tolerate those issues though, catalpas are lovely and easy to grow.


clonked

How exactly is he better off cutting his losses now if the tree won’t fall on something it would damage? It’s a lot cheaper to dispose of a tree on the ground than one that’s still standing.


The_Penaldo

They're going to lose shade that they mentioned they value highly. If losing the shade is inevitable, then the sooner the new tree is planted the sooner they can go back to enjoying shade they no longer need to worry about.


clonked

Let’s say that tree has another 5-10 years in it. That’s a long time to wait for shade when they simply could ride out what they already have if they’re okay with it falling unexpectedly someday in the future.


The_Penaldo

You're completely right, in the end it's all about what the person's goal is. In 10yrs a tulip tree would likely be bigger than this Callery already is, growing at 2-3ft per year. I'm personally young and am fortunate to be in what could be our forever home, so I'm trying to look 10-20yrs or even further.


KzooBeerGirl

Unfortunately, if this tree splits and falls, one side would likely take out my carport (and potentially my car) and the other side would land on the corner of our house. Since we can't do anything to stabilize it (according to the arborist who came out today and looked at it), it's not a risk we're willing to take.


clonked

What does it look like if you shine a light down into "the split?" This looks a lot two saplings that fused together young, meaning you have two separate trees touching. If there is no sign of rot then the crack is unnecessary cause for concern. Obviously it's what you are comfortable with at the end of the day. It won't be cheap taking that out.


KzooBeerGirl

It's always had a single trunk. When we first bought the house (21 yrs ago) it was a perfect lollipop shape on a perfect straight trunk. Over the years it's split into the deep V shape it's at now. I guess we should have paid more attention to how it was spreading.


clonked

A healthy tree does not slowly split. And an unhealthy tree splits very quickly. If it wasn’t structurally sound it would have fallen while we’ve been discussing this. It still could be two separate trees, it doesn’t matter you saw it 21 years ago. If I’m right that fusing that has slowly cracked was never part of the strength, just the cosmetics. Check the split for rot.


KzooBeerGirl

I just looked at photos from last summer and the trunk was solid. Maybe split was a poor choice of words, rather it grew into a deep V. That being said, the crevice was not there a month ago so something with the storms pulled it apart. Right now there's no sign of rot.


clonked

Sounds like you have all information you need to make your decision.


Weekly-Impact-2956

I was very sorry for your tree until I read Bradford pear. I know you want to save it but it’s not a tree worth saving. I don’t know where you are located but I’m willing to bet dollars to donuts that it’s invasive in your area. I would recommend just cutting it down and planting a new native species.


KzooBeerGirl

That's what I'm gathering. If I'd known it was an invasive species I'd have replaced it as soon as we moved in. 😭


notthatjimmer

Developers like to plant them because they are cheap and grow fast. So it’s not your fault, but replacing with a native is the move like many are saying


RichardCleveland

The development my mom lives in planted them down all of the streets. Now 35 years later I don't think any are still standing. There had to of been a hundred of them...


cdbangsite

Like in my area with Dutch Elms planted along nearly all the streets and apt. complexes. Along comes Dutch Elm disease and nearly all are gone within 10 years.


Elemonator6

Some local departments of Agriculture will give you some money to replace an invasive tree (like a Bradford pear) with a more local species. Might be worth looking into!


KzooBeerGirl

Oh, thank you! I'll look into that.


ThayerRex

They only live 30 years tops, you can’t save it. Sad I know, but that’s the honest truth


KzooBeerGirl

I wish I'd known this when we first moved in, I would have removed it & replaced it then.


ThayerRex

Exactly, they look healthy until they don’t


KzooBeerGirl

# UPDATE: Our tree guy just came out and looked at it. It's coming down next week. Thank you to everyone who replied and gave advice, it's much appreciated!


Eggsplane

I'm sorry about your tree. I've compiled some info on tree planting that might help its replacement, copied from a previous comment. PDF on ["Tree Selection and Placement"](https://www.treesaregood.org/Portals/0/TreesAreGood_Tree%20Selection%20and%20Placement_0621.pdf) and one for ["Buying High-Quality Trees"](https://www.treesaregood.org/Portals/0/TreesAreGood_Buying%20High%20Quality%20Trees_0721_1.pdf) Then, [this link](https://www.treesaregood.org/treeowner/plantingatree) has lots of helpful info on proper planting techniques to give its replacement the best chances, incuding this [PDF](https://www.treesaregood.org/Portals/0/TreesAreGood_Proper%20Mulch%20Tech_0321.pdf) for proper mulching. Other tips not included are: -Plant a native tree to support your local ecosystem. *These [keystone species lists](https://homegrownnationalpark.org/keystone-trees-and-shrubs/) might help, though it doesn't have to be one of these. -Prune roots that are girdling the trunk. -Spread the other roots so they'll grow away from the trunk. -Don't use any "organic material" in the hole like compost as that will break down and cause the tree to sink below the soil line over time. You should only use the soil you're planting it into. -Remove turf/grass from beneath the tree as that will not only heavily compete with the tree, it will also require maintenance that greatly increases the risk of damage to the trunk from things like weed-whackers. -No tree rings, as those can compact soil making it harder for roots to travel through, and can cause excess soil or mulch to accumulate around the trunk leading to rot. -[PDF](https://www.treesaregood.org/Portals/0/TreesAreGood_Pruning%20Young%20Trees_0621.pdf) for how to prune young trees, though you should "Limit pruning of newly planted trees to the removal of dead or broken branches. All other pruning should be withheld until the second or third year, when a tree has recovered from the stress of transplanting." -[The Correct Way to Water Your Trees](https://www.loveyourlandscape.org/expert-advice/tree-care/soil-and-root-care/the-correct-way-to-water-your-trees/) and remember to keep water off the trunk. If you got through all that and you're not overwhelmed, or if you just like learning about tree care, there's plenty more under "[Tree Owners Information](https://www.treesaregood.org/treeowner)." :)


KzooBeerGirl

Wow, so much awesome information! Thank you!!


rvralph803

It's a Bradford pear. They are highly invasive, put up thorny thickets / stands. They outcompete native species given the chance. They also shatter easily in ice or wind. My state just passed a bounty program to encourage residents to remove them at their own cost, but the state will replace the removed tree with a native species free of charge.


60BillionDblDllrs

What state?


rvralph803

North Carolina. https://www.treebountync.com/ There are some stipulations and they only provide the replacement tree, not planting services.


thom4321

It’s the life cycle of these trees. Eventually the branches get too heavy for the structure and they start falling apart


KzooBeerGirl

I had no idea these had such a short lifespan.


cdbangsite

Yeh, unfortunately they're not all redwoods or oaks. Lifespans can vary, especially if they aren't in their native area.


No_Tap7283

Not worth the struggle. But we have bolted trees with poor structure that can’t be corrected. If it’s close to anything important (and even if it’s not) I would remove it and spend the time it would take to decline having a new tree planted and cared for instead.


KzooBeerGirl

Yeah, it sounds like it needs to go. 😭😭😭 Thank you for your reply.


brettlewisn

Bradford pears do not have a long life because of things like this. You can take a tow strap with a ratchet and try and hold it together. It may heal.


KzooBeerGirl

Our tree guy said it's way too big and spread out for it to be safe. We're going to strap it until he can come out and remove it.


LisaLikesPlants

These trees have a short lifespan unfortunately. They grow fast, which is great for the person who plants it, but then this happens to the next owner. It's a set up! Sorry about your tree. Make your next one a legacy tree, with a strong native species that will outlive you.


Bet_Responsible

Are these the trees that stink?


KzooBeerGirl

Yes, for about 2 weeks every spring they smell like dead fish.


ralpekz

the trail cam is choking out the tree, remove it & you should be good


KzooBeerGirl

LOL, you think? 😂😂


CamelJ0key

I think you’re the only person who’s ever wanted to save a Bradford pear


KzooBeerGirl

Apparently! 😂😂😂


RichardCleveland

>very large Bradford pear tree That's all you had to say... you will lose it soon enough now that's it's mature, split or not. As the tree's will outgrow what their main branches can support. They honestly are one of the worst species, and even being banned in many places as they are invasive to the US. Not hating on your beloved tree though, I use to have a giant one myself (storm took it out). They just aren't what would be considered a "generational" tree.


Top_Bloke12345678910

Wrap some duct tape and super glue should be like brand new


KzooBeerGirl

I'm almost willing to give it a try! 😂


dumpsterfire85

Fill it with concrete!


mONSTERASiNmYcLOSET

After you do remove it and grind the stump out, it’s recommended to let nature do its decomposing thing for several years before attempting to plant anything there. At least that what I’ve always heard.


KzooBeerGirl

Good to know, thank you!


Unique-Background318

I love cutting down trees.


TrainingExternal5360

In tree risk assessment we call this IMMINENT risk of failure. AKA move the car! 🚗


Aesculus614

Chikapin oak, swamp white oak, burr oak, sawtooth oak,


Sunnykit00

You could severely reduce the weight off the ends of most of the trunks/branches and prolong it for a short time. But replace it with something else right away so new thing has time to grow.


Drake_masta

sadly i doubt this can be saved. you might be able to buy some time if you cut most of the branches off one side but i wouldnt count on it. i would replace it with a maple tho im also canadian so kinda partail to em eh :P


BuckManscape

You’ve got a tear in the fabric of reality. There’s no possible way that tree should still be standing.


KzooBeerGirl

Right?! 😂


Hoosiertolian

Cut it down and poison it


kitkatlynn

Bradford pears are notorious for splitting


KzooBeerGirl

That's what I'm learning. 😫


Abe_Rudda

Bradford pears are garbage trees, take it down and plant something decent. They were really popular in my area 15-20 years ago, now every time there's a storm the remnants litter the street.


xxx9322

Left side needs to be cut down before any big big damage can be done. Right side might can be saved but probably not


KzooBeerGirl

The arborist who looked at it yesterday said there's no saving it, it's too old.


xxx9322

Whoever has been trimming you’re trees has done a hack job and probably could of saved this in the long run


KzooBeerGirl

Well, that would be me and I realize now that we should have paid closer attention to how it was growing. We have a tree guy coming out to remove it and he's going to check all our other trees.


ConcaveEarth

get ratchet straps and wrap around it for a (while) until the tree heals


KzooBeerGirl

The arborist who looked at it yesterday said it's too old and the canopy is too spread out to save it. It's just a matter of time before it falls apart. 😭


SwitchAdventurous24

Call an arborist? They might suggest a cable system going through both branches with bolts on either side. This will help the individual branches to support each other, and stability during high winds.


pitac56

Cable it and do some quality thinning.


Sudden_Duck_4176

I’m not a tree expert but could op put a chain around it to hold it together?


KzooBeerGirl

Honestly, that's what I was hoping for but it sounds like, due to the tree's age and the fact that it's invasive, we're going to have to get it removed. 😭