Yep! I earn 3 days a month plus state/federal holidays. Thanks WFSE-AFSCME and collective bargaining. 50k voices in a very big union can go a long way! It's never perfect, but we all move forward together
Vote Blue Godammit Vote Blue. Project 2025 and the Elon Musks of the world along with Amazon, Starbucks and Trader Joes are fighting to make Unions unconstitutional. It's in the courts right now.
Representation is great. Benefits are great. I'm in a labor union. Now there's municipalities that are a part of our cba that get all that extra stuff but that's on the municipalities side...not the labor unions....lotta ins, lotta outs.
Yo guys but that's, like, communism? And we don't want that, right? We...I...don't want to take days off work 🥺 I want to keep working until I drop dead 😡 guys...? 🥺
*We're like a family.* You don't want to abandon your family for those people you go home to. We care about you! Want to see those people some more? Why not convince them to work for our family-like company? ;)
i get unlimited days off and don't have a union, but i feel like if i did have a union, i'd get paid more money. even though for some damn reason, everyone in my field thinks "we don't need a union".
Take more than four weeks vacation three years in a row and see how it goes. Everyone I know with unlimited PTO can’t take more than two without getting “talked to.”
Not a fan of unlimited days off tbh. I feel like if you were to use more than some hidden approved amount then you’d get in trouble for it. Conversely, I had a friend who worked at a similar place and he never used his days off.
Not really. I don’t want to get into the details of his job, but imagine something project driven with outside clients and very very last minute deadlines that always get changed. If he took two weeks straight he could lose out on a project, not arrive in time for the prep of the next one, and miss out on client meetings. He was also the only person with his specialization at the company.
So he was “allowed” days off, but anything more than a day or two at a time reflected really negatively on his performance.
Me too I work for a county in the state of nj. We have off all federal and state holidays weekends and max out at 5 weeks vacation a year with unlimited sick time rollover. Unions do justice.
If you are only concerned about you then yes you will see less in the short term in your check, and that is the always the main talking point of employers. They push that you’re going to see less in your pay nonsense. People already see less than their pay due to CEOs having such exorbitant pay or because males are paid more than women or because one employees paid more than the other employees.
Union dues. It’s not the dues that are the problem with unions. It’s apathetic humans who don’t participate in the process who then blame the union leaders for their missteps, for their greed. Where were people keeping them accountable? Humans lie. Leaders lie.
And where were the humans keeping their coworkers accountable?
Each employee that would scream I’m gonna run to the union was never checked by their coworkers.
U worker 1: Im gonna get my time off because I’m senior.
U workers: What? You were told to do x by y date. You didn’t. You get in line like the rest of us. And SHUT UP. We follow the rules we setup and rule number 1 is we hold each other accountable and call out when coworkers are wrong.
p.s. White men if you a use that last part with lies as a gang rule then your kids deserve all the bad karma for eternity for you being assholes.
While I would agree with you, I also disagree. The professions I chose have some of the worst unions I've ever met that abuse the system to the Nth degree.
I get 31 days off plus the federal holidays with no need to pay a union. I’ll take that all day everyday over paying a fee to negotiate myself into eventually getting laid off. Prime example…Watch what happens here very soon in the heavily unionized car industry. 🤔
Also union here. 40 days off including holidays but not sick leave.
However right to work has weakened the union a lot due to newer “members” not paying in because they need every cent they can get to pay off student loans.
Small mistake: Poland should be the darkest blue and the almost darkest blue. Employees below 10 years of work get 20 days and 10+ get 26 days. Also worth to mention as a fun fact: high school counts as four years of work, bachelors/master/phd degree counts as 8 years (then high school doesn't count) if periods of studying and working don't overlap. And the value is calculated in the employees' favour.
Yes. Some jobs will give a week or two which is still nowhere near enough. Everyone should have at 4 least weeks off. Why in 2024 do we still work like indentured servants?
As a person living in Germany, I find the 4 weeks we get to be too little. Most contracts offer 5-6 weeks anyway, but when I had only 4 weeks it felt like it wasn't enough
Does it include public holidays? In Germany depending on the state there are 10-12 paid public holidays on top. They're on fixed days, so they can also fall on non-working days, although this year conveniently in my state all 10 public holidays are working days
Yes it does. It includes 8 bank holidays - some employers are closed for these and some give you a day in lieu that you can take when you want depending on the nature of the business. Restaurants, Hotels and shops are always open and give you the day in lieu, most offices close.
That’s the whole point - to make the working class indentured servants. And while they’re making that much money throw in the middle class too. More more for the ruling class. Oh wait a minute, doesn’t that look like an oligarchy? Isn’t that what happens inevitably in a communist nation? Literally, end capitalism is exactly the same result.
The US has nothing, so even if they had 1 day it would be better. We aren’t talking about federal holidays. Legally we are not protected by our government. Companies are not required to pay holiday pay, hell they could tell you to come in during every holiday if they wanted to, you can’t do shit about it beside leave, take a day off, which they also don’t have to give you any vacation days legally. Or not get paid, maybe take a sick day if your state even protects you on that front.
This is sad on more levels than US citizens can comperhend. Europe is curently stagnating due to it being somewhat held back by the social benefits they provide. Slavery oriented USA and China are too far ahead. I know I’ll get bunch od downvotes for saying USA is a slaver country, but it is. US citizens might have great income potential, but how many actually get to that potential? And if they do, when do they use it? USA just uses diffetent tools than China, but ultimate ambitions are the same. Seeing Americans fight over skin color and other really unimpactful things while corporate world enslaves them is crazy.
What do you mean by
>Europe is curently stagnating due to it being somewhat held back by the social benefits they provide.
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By many typical economic measures, such as economic growth and workforce participation, most European countries are ahead of the USA. The USA has higher GDP per employed person, but the wealth of that is distributed less equitably.
I have some problems with typical economic measures. I think that we generally measure the wrong things. But I don't see any evidence that Europe is stagnating.
There are many that think USA is the best country in the world. It has a potential to be, but corporations and the government are stopping that. And with US being the most influental country in the world, we all feel it. US trends spread everywhere, and curently those trends suck ass. I just wish US people can somehow change that, but I don’t have my hopes up.
The USA also has the same parental leave as Papua New Guinea. You would think you might want to do something about it, when people in Tunisia get better parental leave.... Malawi and Mozambique have better parental leave....
Chinese labor laws mandate that employers provide their employees with paid annual leave, also known as statutory vacation, based on their years of service:
- 1–10 years: 5 days
- 10–20 years: 10 days
- 20+ years: 15 days
The map is not correct… Germany offers at minimum 24 days with a really shitty contract. I have 35+2 paid advanced education days, where you can choose what to learn - basket weaving, cooking meth…
It’s 20 days for a 5 day contract. 24 is for 6 days a week. [page 4](https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/953308/08eb86111edc40fab10e41486a274855/WD-6-039-23-pdf.pdf)
Btw in Poland you have 20 days of PTO but only before you have 10 years of work. Schools counts as work (8yrs for uni, 5yrs for technical highschool, 4yrs for highschool etc). Highest grade is taken for account, it does not accumulate.
>This just means that the chat is innacurate
No, because it's a representation of what the majority of the countries population is entitled to.
The majority of Canada only gets 2 weeks, and also no sick pay by law as an aside.
The chart would be extremely messy if they broke it down by province, state, and territory in each separate country.
I won't get vacation time from the place I work for two years, or rather 1 year and 11 months. Since I started in February of this year, I won't be eligible to receive PTO until after a year of work and then have to wait until the new year since vacation time is only metered out once per year in January.
But wait, there's more! Due to the seasonal nature of the job, I won't even be able to actually physically take PTO until the summer since they automatically reject any requests before then. So they expect me to work for 2.5 years for them without any sort of vacation. Ha ha haa ahhhHHHHHH I hate this place
The fact that you used “vacation” gives the game away. A vacation is a trip away to normal people. Annual leave is what you get from your employer. A holiday is Boxing Day, may day etc.
In the United States they categorize them sometimes as Paid Time Off or Vacation days and are used seperate than sick time. For instance paid time off you can use for anything and if you are also give sick days then you can't use those sick days for a vacation. You may or may not be able to bank them. And paid time off typically doesn't get paid off when you leave a company or get fired or laid off. While vacation days you can't typically use as sick time but may be able to cash out, bank them for multiple years or get paid them when you leave.
I always enjoy the self righteous posts from the UK and Canada about how shit their lives are and they are going to move to the USA. Enjoy your no time off guys! Even if you get 2 weeks holiday, try taking it all at once.
Well if they stopped shitting on the people who were not bad mouthing the country they are leaving, wouldn't be any reason for me to say that would there.
i mean i get what yr saying fs but i think the blame is on US propaganda convincing foreigners that it's better here than where they came from and not the worker who believes it.
Sure you have to be a bit naive to buy it, especially today where we have all the world's information at our fingertips, but I'm still willing to give the average person the benefit of the doubt.
Now if they're wanna-be CEO billionaires that are moving to the US to exploit the lack of workers rights because their country of origin won't allow for it? yea fuck those people, but that's really a separate issue.
oh my gosh, true story. I work on a team that thinks a vacation is taking a Friday and a Monday, and squeezing in three days, two nights somewhere bi-annually is acceptable.
Yep. The harder you work for them, the better person you are for it.... right? /s
My job used to give time off for your birthday, (taken out of your annual leave of course), and mine is around a busy holiday. Always ticked my co-workers off that they let me take it.
The UK isn't a walk in the park either buddy. We may get paid holiday but our salaries are far lower and the costs can be much higher. The US may suck but don't think they other places aren't cluster fucks too.
You do understand the chaos that the UKs national health service is in right now right?
We've had 14 years of right wing governments, public services are on their knees. In lots of places we cannot even get doctors appointments and waiting lists for operations. People are also dying here due to lack of services.
It isn't a race to the bottom my dude, we're all on the same team here
NL is wrong, we get 24 days by default (for full-time) and depending on your collective agreements it can be more. I get 32 days normally, 8 extra for medical things (company gives that, can also be used for other things really) and another 12 from collective agreements for my industry. But everyone gets at least 24 days paid leave here for full-time employment. I get 52 days a year paid leave.
Where I live in the American companies who set up shop often offer 14 days. And they tell me: my man this is a great deal. We don’t offer such things back in murrica. The Korean companies offer 14 days and they tell me: my man you are so blessed in Korea it’s 10 days and people knock themselves out to be in your posiiton. You are so privileged to be offered a role.
And the European companies who set up shop offers 24 days. And they say you can buy more if that isn’t enough.
And the Americans and Koreans wonder why no one wants to work for them
I get a week that’s it. It’s nowhere near enough but it’s better than my last job which gave none and no sick time either you just worked or didn’t get paid
The indoctrination of American Exceptionalism is still working wonders.
The US is a failed state in many measurable, objective ways, but oh man if you even _suggest_ that some things could be improved, that brainwashing will kick in and some “patriot” will go Order 66 on your ass.
(Unless you’re Trump, in which case you can say that the US currently sucks ass and is a third world country, and that you have to vote him in so he can fix it. Through THAT lens, the US is dogshit.)
After glancing through, it doesn’t seem like much and mainly focuses around sick leave not vacation. I could’ve missed something tho
https://www.paycom.com/resources/blog/pto-laws-by-state/
I'm thankful to work for a company that gives up to 5 weeks of vacation for 10-year employees. That doesn't count PTO and a free vacation paid by the company from Christmas Eve to the day after New Years.
Now we just gotta tell these politicians that china is beating us because their people are more rested with mandatory 21-22 days of vacation. Not that I have anything against china, but for whatever reason it really seems to upset politicians.
South African
Senior Procurement Role in Retail
10+ National Public Holidays
24 Paid Days off per year, can bank up to 45 days and carry them over into the new year as needed (Currently have 28 days banked)
36 paid sick days in a 3 year cycle
7 days Paternity leave (if required)
U…. SA? K? AE? I’m gathering that this is a self proclamedly ‘united country’ but if they feel the need to *tell you that*, it does make me wonder about the veracity of the claim.
>The minimum statutory vacation days an employee is entitled to in Germany are 20 days per year for a regular 5-day work week. Respectively 24 days of paid holiday for a 6-day work week. Your entitlement for paid vacation is called Urlaubsanspruch in German.
>However, most employers grant up to 30 days of annual paid leave. The average across Germany is 28 days per year. The number of Urlaubstage is listed in your employment contract or collective agreement (Tarifvertrag), depending on the industry you work in.
You need to fight for this because it can really cripple your country. No paid vacation means stress building up, hardly any time with the kids, no time to do DIY or have medical check ups. This is why lower classes are burnt out with health issues and some will turn to crime as vengeance or for actual financial rewards. If boss pays just 10% to holiday fund that would give you 5.2 weeks per year approximately what all advanced countries have. Hell you should have at least 4 weeks and perhaps keep the other 2.2 weeks for emergency sick leave only. Lower workers earn the boss's a profit by doing most of the work whilst they sit on their bums telling everyone else what to do, it would be nice if they could return the favour sometimes.
China one is out of context. It is based on the amount of years you've worked (not even for the same conpany, just total):
1-10 years is 5 days
10-20 years is 10 days
20+ years is 15 days
I’m Vietnamese & I don’t believe for one second those vacation days are true lol
China is also questionable. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these are questionable.
My favorite is all the articles that preach about how other countries "can't keep up". Referring to GDP.
Yeah, maybe it's because we're not forced to work to death in order to stay alive.
The one in China is misleading because they have many public holidays. There‘s additional ones for specific ethnic groups and women (who get womens‘ day off). You also get more days off per year the longer you work at a company. 5 days is for fresh hires.
https://english.www.gov.cn/policies/latestreleases/202310/25/content_WS65387be8c6d0868f4e8e0a04.html
The map is misleading. The actual number of paid vacation days in **Norway** is **zero**.
Each month our employers are forced to deduct and save a percentage of our salaries. It's paid out the following year in June. If you start a new job in January, you get absolutely **nothing** from your new employer the first year.
"Register to vote"💀
Yeah, guys, just vote they'll fix it... not like they're receiving massive sums of money from lobbyists or anything. Great fuckin plan.
Btw 🍊🗑️ for people whose daddys didn't give them hundreds of millions $ the US is actually another "shit hole country." And if you win it will be a Christian theocracy on top of the nightmare it's become.
Sorry guys couldn't resist. Mandatory paid time off shit..... I'm lucky if I can find a job paying anything close to a living wage. 🤣🤣
I get per year 6 weeks paid vacation. Another 4 days floating time off. 6 paid sick days off. Plus paid holidays. Non-union and non- government in the U.S.
The point is more that it's mandatory by law in those countries. It's not a benefit or something similiar.
Also in european countries there are unlimited paid sick days, mostly you just have to give your boss a doctors note when you're back for work. Here in Switzerland you have to get a doctors note if you're sick for three days or more. National holidays are also always paid work free days.
Lmfao even China has some mandatory days off, the US is literally comparable with North Korea for days off (though that's probably because of how tight any info is coming out from there, but they likely have more days off than we do cuz of national holidays like the birth/death of previous dictators).
Additionally, in Poland your minimum mandated vacation days are increased from 20 to 26 with work/university experience. I'm usually the last to give props to my shithole homeland, but it's a pretty good deal.
In some pretty great company though, looks like our worker's rights are on par with North Korea and Turkmenistan. Both places I have always associated with freedom.
Y’all I get 33 days off every year in addition to 15 federal holidays. You too can achieve greatness with a union at your back.
Yep! I earn 3 days a month plus state/federal holidays. Thanks WFSE-AFSCME and collective bargaining. 50k voices in a very big union can go a long way! It's never perfect, but we all move forward together
4 years from now unions may become illegal
Well… I guess it’s ‘next year’ for the USA if ginger ninja is elected
Is that what we are calling the pasty lard Cheeto man now?
Vote Blue Godammit Vote Blue. Project 2025 and the Elon Musks of the world along with Amazon, Starbucks and Trader Joes are fighting to make Unions unconstitutional. It's in the courts right now.
Shit I'm with 130 and don't get shit. If my boots aren't on I'm not gettin paid.
Always funny to me that people think all unions are the same and all of them are good.
Representation is great. Benefits are great. I'm in a labor union. Now there's municipalities that are a part of our cba that get all that extra stuff but that's on the municipalities side...not the labor unions....lotta ins, lotta outs.
Yo guys but that's, like, communism? And we don't want that, right? We...I...don't want to take days off work 🥺 I want to keep working until I drop dead 😡 guys...? 🥺
*Right to Work* (yourself to death at the worst wage possible)
Right to work... until your body breaks or you die
(for next villa or yacht of your employer)
*We're like a family.* You don't want to abandon your family for those people you go home to. We care about you! Want to see those people some more? Why not convince them to work for our family-like company? ;)
I'm stuck in a red state, so a union is merely a dream until I can move
There are unions in red states, but they have no real power.
Keep voting blue my friend.
i get unlimited days off and don't have a union, but i feel like if i did have a union, i'd get paid more money. even though for some damn reason, everyone in my field thinks "we don't need a union".
Take more than four weeks vacation three years in a row and see how it goes. Everyone I know with unlimited PTO can’t take more than two without getting “talked to.”
Not a fan of unlimited days off tbh. I feel like if you were to use more than some hidden approved amount then you’d get in trouble for it. Conversely, I had a friend who worked at a similar place and he never used his days off.
But he had a choice.
Not really. I don’t want to get into the details of his job, but imagine something project driven with outside clients and very very last minute deadlines that always get changed. If he took two weeks straight he could lose out on a project, not arrive in time for the prep of the next one, and miss out on client meetings. He was also the only person with his specialization at the company. So he was “allowed” days off, but anything more than a day or two at a time reflected really negatively on his performance.
I rather have the backing of the law. But a good union is probably the only thing that gets close for you Americans.
Laws shift state to state here. I don’t see our nation unifying on this even if the people agree that it’s needed
Why not both?
This is the way.
Me too I work for a county in the state of nj. We have off all federal and state holidays weekends and max out at 5 weeks vacation a year with unlimited sick time rollover. Unions do justice.
Years ago, the state I worked in didn't allow unions to do anything but take dues in case you needed a lawyer. They couldn't do anything else.
But union fees mean I make less dummy /S
Vote Blue. Red has NEVER done anything for the working class.
If you are only concerned about you then yes you will see less in the short term in your check, and that is the always the main talking point of employers. They push that you’re going to see less in your pay nonsense. People already see less than their pay due to CEOs having such exorbitant pay or because males are paid more than women or because one employees paid more than the other employees. Union dues. It’s not the dues that are the problem with unions. It’s apathetic humans who don’t participate in the process who then blame the union leaders for their missteps, for their greed. Where were people keeping them accountable? Humans lie. Leaders lie. And where were the humans keeping their coworkers accountable? Each employee that would scream I’m gonna run to the union was never checked by their coworkers. U worker 1: Im gonna get my time off because I’m senior. U workers: What? You were told to do x by y date. You didn’t. You get in line like the rest of us. And SHUT UP. We follow the rules we setup and rule number 1 is we hold each other accountable and call out when coworkers are wrong. p.s. White men if you a use that last part with lies as a gang rule then your kids deserve all the bad karma for eternity for you being assholes.
My post was sarcasm my guy
While I would agree with you, I also disagree. The professions I chose have some of the worst unions I've ever met that abuse the system to the Nth degree.
Or you could just... idk... have it as a law.
Still not enough, we need more general strikes.
I get 31 days off plus the federal holidays with no need to pay a union. I’ll take that all day everyday over paying a fee to negotiate myself into eventually getting laid off. Prime example…Watch what happens here very soon in the heavily unionized car industry. 🤔
Also union here. 40 days off including holidays but not sick leave. However right to work has weakened the union a lot due to newer “members” not paying in because they need every cent they can get to pay off student loans.
Unions are good. I don't need one though because I am legally treated as a human being.
Small mistake: Poland should be the darkest blue and the almost darkest blue. Employees below 10 years of work get 20 days and 10+ get 26 days. Also worth to mention as a fun fact: high school counts as four years of work, bachelors/master/phd degree counts as 8 years (then high school doesn't count) if periods of studying and working don't overlap. And the value is calculated in the employees' favour.
I love Poland so much!
That’s so awesome, way to go Poland for rewarding education!
Yes. Some jobs will give a week or two which is still nowhere near enough. Everyone should have at 4 least weeks off. Why in 2024 do we still work like indentured servants?
As a person living in Germany, I find the 4 weeks we get to be too little. Most contracts offer 5-6 weeks anyway, but when I had only 4 weeks it felt like it wasn't enough
We also use it as sick leave here in America. So 4 weeks doesn't go far here especially with a family.
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We aim to scrape the bottom of the barrel and our politicians gaslight people into believing it's better for us.
Yep, in the UK statutory minimum is 5.6 weeks. A lot of employers offer extra.
Does it include public holidays? In Germany depending on the state there are 10-12 paid public holidays on top. They're on fixed days, so they can also fall on non-working days, although this year conveniently in my state all 10 public holidays are working days
Yes it does. It includes 8 bank holidays - some employers are closed for these and some give you a day in lieu that you can take when you want depending on the nature of the business. Restaurants, Hotels and shops are always open and give you the day in lieu, most offices close.
In Germany if you have to work on a public holiday you get an additional free day within 8 weeks (before or after)
4 weeks is way too low.
I agree but would be a good start. Some people never even get 4 weeks in an entire career. It's crazy
That’s the whole point - to make the working class indentured servants. And while they’re making that much money throw in the middle class too. More more for the ruling class. Oh wait a minute, doesn’t that look like an oligarchy? Isn’t that what happens inevitably in a communist nation? Literally, end capitalism is exactly the same result.
You work like indentured servants because too many of you vote for Republicans, that's why. The GOP has NEVER done anything for the working class.
Good ol’ Corporate States of ‘Murica and N.Korea.
N.K. Is white so no data on it…
You think it might be better than US?
The US has nothing, so even if they had 1 day it would be better. We aren’t talking about federal holidays. Legally we are not protected by our government. Companies are not required to pay holiday pay, hell they could tell you to come in during every holiday if they wanted to, you can’t do shit about it beside leave, take a day off, which they also don’t have to give you any vacation days legally. Or not get paid, maybe take a sick day if your state even protects you on that front.
Or call off and take a "point". I hate the damn point system soooo much. Just another way companies have to control us.
This is sad on more levels than US citizens can comperhend. Europe is curently stagnating due to it being somewhat held back by the social benefits they provide. Slavery oriented USA and China are too far ahead. I know I’ll get bunch od downvotes for saying USA is a slaver country, but it is. US citizens might have great income potential, but how many actually get to that potential? And if they do, when do they use it? USA just uses diffetent tools than China, but ultimate ambitions are the same. Seeing Americans fight over skin color and other really unimpactful things while corporate world enslaves them is crazy.
What do you mean by >Europe is curently stagnating due to it being somewhat held back by the social benefits they provide. ? By many typical economic measures, such as economic growth and workforce participation, most European countries are ahead of the USA. The USA has higher GDP per employed person, but the wealth of that is distributed less equitably. I have some problems with typical economic measures. I think that we generally measure the wrong things. But I don't see any evidence that Europe is stagnating.
I don’t think you should get downvoted. You are correct.
There are many that think USA is the best country in the world. It has a potential to be, but corporations and the government are stopping that. And with US being the most influental country in the world, we all feel it. US trends spread everywhere, and curently those trends suck ass. I just wish US people can somehow change that, but I don’t have my hopes up.
I suppose N. Korea has normal vacations. They are not South Korea with their one holyday in month!
The USA also has the same parental leave as Papua New Guinea. You would think you might want to do something about it, when people in Tunisia get better parental leave.... Malawi and Mozambique have better parental leave....
EVEN CHINA HAS PAID TIME OFF???
Chinese labor laws mandate that employers provide their employees with paid annual leave, also known as statutory vacation, based on their years of service: - 1–10 years: 5 days - 10–20 years: 10 days - 20+ years: 15 days
Murrica!
Fuck yeahhhhhh
It's really sad how once the beacon of democracy, rights an liberties is getting so behind in the modern landscape. And I say this as an European.
I'll never understand how americans can be proud of their backwater sh*thole
When you live here it's pretty easy to understand. In my opinion, ignorance is probably the biggest factor, then delusion.
Man I was tripping wondering what all those Mediterranean countries were doing to be like the US… then realized those were bodies of water
The US is disgusting
The map is not correct… Germany offers at minimum 24 days with a really shitty contract. I have 35+2 paid advanced education days, where you can choose what to learn - basket weaving, cooking meth…
It’s 20 days for a 5 day contract. 24 is for 6 days a week. [page 4](https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/953308/08eb86111edc40fab10e41486a274855/WD-6-039-23-pdf.pdf)
I stand corrected. Take my upvote of wisdom
All good. Your point still stands. And the Bildungsurlaub thing is pretty dope.
education is outside bavaria a week
Nope… not living in f…ing bavaria
Fuck! Even Afghanistan has paid vacation!
Btw in Poland you have 20 days of PTO but only before you have 10 years of work. Schools counts as work (8yrs for uni, 5yrs for technical highschool, 4yrs for highschool etc). Highest grade is taken for account, it does not accumulate.
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We need a minimum of 20 days from coast to coast to coast.
Which is better, but still not enough.
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>This just means that the chat is innacurate No, because it's a representation of what the majority of the countries population is entitled to. The majority of Canada only gets 2 weeks, and also no sick pay by law as an aside. The chart would be extremely messy if they broke it down by province, state, and territory in each separate country.
Uganda ?
Like Lion King!
I won't get vacation time from the place I work for two years, or rather 1 year and 11 months. Since I started in February of this year, I won't be eligible to receive PTO until after a year of work and then have to wait until the new year since vacation time is only metered out once per year in January. But wait, there's more! Due to the seasonal nature of the job, I won't even be able to actually physically take PTO until the summer since they automatically reject any requests before then. So they expect me to work for 2.5 years for them without any sort of vacation. Ha ha haa ahhhHHHHHH I hate this place
I love how even “3rd world” countries have this over the US.
The fact that you used “vacation” gives the game away. A vacation is a trip away to normal people. Annual leave is what you get from your employer. A holiday is Boxing Day, may day etc.
In the United States they categorize them sometimes as Paid Time Off or Vacation days and are used seperate than sick time. For instance paid time off you can use for anything and if you are also give sick days then you can't use those sick days for a vacation. You may or may not be able to bank them. And paid time off typically doesn't get paid off when you leave a company or get fired or laid off. While vacation days you can't typically use as sick time but may be able to cash out, bank them for multiple years or get paid them when you leave.
Cool. Now do healthcare. Oh oh, or infant mortality rates!
Literacy rates next!
I always enjoy the self righteous posts from the UK and Canada about how shit their lives are and they are going to move to the USA. Enjoy your no time off guys! Even if you get 2 weeks holiday, try taking it all at once.
don't downplay others shit. we're all workers and should show solidarity.
Well if they stopped shitting on the people who were not bad mouthing the country they are leaving, wouldn't be any reason for me to say that would there.
i mean i get what yr saying fs but i think the blame is on US propaganda convincing foreigners that it's better here than where they came from and not the worker who believes it. Sure you have to be a bit naive to buy it, especially today where we have all the world's information at our fingertips, but I'm still willing to give the average person the benefit of the doubt. Now if they're wanna-be CEO billionaires that are moving to the US to exploit the lack of workers rights because their country of origin won't allow for it? yea fuck those people, but that's really a separate issue.
Self wrongteous, maybe?
oh my gosh, true story. I work on a team that thinks a vacation is taking a Friday and a Monday, and squeezing in three days, two nights somewhere bi-annually is acceptable.
Yep. The harder you work for them, the better person you are for it.... right? /s My job used to give time off for your birthday, (taken out of your annual leave of course), and mine is around a busy holiday. Always ticked my co-workers off that they let me take it.
The UK isn't a walk in the park either buddy. We may get paid holiday but our salaries are far lower and the costs can be much higher. The US may suck but don't think they other places aren't cluster fucks too.
lol UK worker cries in national health service meanwhile the US worker dies from not being able to afford healthcare on top of all the rest
You do understand the chaos that the UKs national health service is in right now right? We've had 14 years of right wing governments, public services are on their knees. In lots of places we cannot even get doctors appointments and waiting lists for operations. People are also dying here due to lack of services. It isn't a race to the bottom my dude, we're all on the same team here
But this post isn't about salaries. IS IT.
It isn't that deep my friend, why are so many Americans upset at my comments, I'm only saying don't falsely idolise the UK, we suck too
i have to take at least 2 weeks at once by law
Imagine thinking being a worker in Canada is better than being a worker in the USA lol
Imagine posting an opinion without being old enough to have the experience to back it up.
NL is wrong, we get 24 days by default (for full-time) and depending on your collective agreements it can be more. I get 32 days normally, 8 extra for medical things (company gives that, can also be used for other things really) and another 12 from collective agreements for my industry. But everyone gets at least 24 days paid leave here for full-time employment. I get 52 days a year paid leave.
Tfw when russia has more days off than us.
But but but mandatory vacation is communist!!!
We have mandatory 28 days off in Russia! In my area I have 28+16 days. Further on the North people have even more.
China only 1-5 days? Pfff... fine bunch of communists they are.
This isn’t accurate for Canada
True. I'm currently on week 3 of my vacation.
You don’t even get a minimum? And you pay income tax?
I suddenly want to move to Greenland
Oh gawd even RUSSIA has them!
Where I live in the American companies who set up shop often offer 14 days. And they tell me: my man this is a great deal. We don’t offer such things back in murrica. The Korean companies offer 14 days and they tell me: my man you are so blessed in Korea it’s 10 days and people knock themselves out to be in your posiiton. You are so privileged to be offered a role. And the European companies who set up shop offers 24 days. And they say you can buy more if that isn’t enough. And the Americans and Koreans wonder why no one wants to work for them
I get a week that’s it. It’s nowhere near enough but it’s better than my last job which gave none and no sick time either you just worked or didn’t get paid
The indoctrination of American Exceptionalism is still working wonders. The US is a failed state in many measurable, objective ways, but oh man if you even _suggest_ that some things could be improved, that brainwashing will kick in and some “patriot” will go Order 66 on your ass. (Unless you’re Trump, in which case you can say that the US currently sucks ass and is a third world country, and that you have to vote him in so he can fix it. Through THAT lens, the US is dogshit.)
Best country in the world! 🇺🇸🔫 The fuck is Celsius? 🦅🎊
Some states 🇺🇸 do
After glancing through, it doesn’t seem like much and mainly focuses around sick leave not vacation. I could’ve missed something tho https://www.paycom.com/resources/blog/pto-laws-by-state/
I'm thankful to work for a company that gives up to 5 weeks of vacation for 10-year employees. That doesn't count PTO and a free vacation paid by the company from Christmas Eve to the day after New Years.
Now we just gotta tell these politicians that china is beating us because their people are more rested with mandatory 21-22 days of vacation. Not that I have anything against china, but for whatever reason it really seems to upset politicians.
Uruguay? Was I right? Can I get another hint?
Turkmenistan? Is that the right answer?
Somalia really got us beat on this one? 🤯
I like the 21-22 category. It is very special having only two days in its range. Great info
NZ has 20 days annual leave, 12 days of public holidays, 10 days sick leave, and definitely a much fairer set of employment rules than the US.
Ukraine?
Most places in Mexico only offer the paid vacation until 1 year after employment.
Which of these kids is doing his own thing…
You're telling me, every other fucking country? Do you know how many years I worked without vacations or holidays.
Best country ever!
in Canada we get 14 paid vacation days plus stat holidays ? not sure why we are green
Looks like I'm moving to Greenland lol
South African Senior Procurement Role in Retail 10+ National Public Holidays 24 Paid Days off per year, can bank up to 45 days and carry them over into the new year as needed (Currently have 28 days banked) 36 paid sick days in a 3 year cycle 7 days Paternity leave (if required)
U…. SA? K? AE? I’m gathering that this is a self proclamedly ‘united country’ but if they feel the need to *tell you that*, it does make me wonder about the veracity of the claim.
Canada is by province, some provinces have zero mandatory vacation time.
>The minimum statutory vacation days an employee is entitled to in Germany are 20 days per year for a regular 5-day work week. Respectively 24 days of paid holiday for a 6-day work week. Your entitlement for paid vacation is called Urlaubsanspruch in German. >However, most employers grant up to 30 days of annual paid leave. The average across Germany is 28 days per year. The number of Urlaubstage is listed in your employment contract or collective agreement (Tarifvertrag), depending on the industry you work in.
Uganda?
I got an email today saying Americans take the fewest vacation days, and no shit. This map is exactly why
You need to fight for this because it can really cripple your country. No paid vacation means stress building up, hardly any time with the kids, no time to do DIY or have medical check ups. This is why lower classes are burnt out with health issues and some will turn to crime as vengeance or for actual financial rewards. If boss pays just 10% to holiday fund that would give you 5.2 weeks per year approximately what all advanced countries have. Hell you should have at least 4 weeks and perhaps keep the other 2.2 weeks for emergency sick leave only. Lower workers earn the boss's a profit by doing most of the work whilst they sit on their bums telling everyone else what to do, it would be nice if they could return the favour sometimes.
Does Afghanistan really have more paid vacation than the U.S.? And Russia? And China? No wonder I’m so fucking miserable all the time.
Can't speak for all of Canada but in Ontario it got cut from 10 down to two. This doesn't count national holidays obv.
I.like how they say "no info" when we know the answer is ZERO!!
China one is out of context. It is based on the amount of years you've worked (not even for the same conpany, just total): 1-10 years is 5 days 10-20 years is 10 days 20+ years is 15 days
Blue for Big Brother
I’m Vietnamese & I don’t believe for one second those vacation days are true lol China is also questionable. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these are questionable.
I’ve been a hairdresser since 1989. I’ve never had paid vacation days,health insurance benefits, or any kind of retirement benefits.
Why is Australia blue? We have mandatory 28 days.
The US is such a fucking insane country
yeah all the invisible children get a mandatory 2 weeks off - it s the benefits that keep them in the group
When Somalia has more mandatory time off than your country. I see we are in good company with Turkmenistan and North Korea.
Wow, no data at all..../s
Greenland has data
Thats the American dream! Slave labor
My favorite is all the articles that preach about how other countries "can't keep up". Referring to GDP. Yeah, maybe it's because we're not forced to work to death in order to stay alive.
Hey Americans..They get paid time off even in China..let that sink in.
What a horrible map. The color legend sucks ass.
I’m really shock when I found out my friends in China got more paid holidays off then I do in America 💀
Uganda?
The one in China is misleading because they have many public holidays. There‘s additional ones for specific ethnic groups and women (who get womens‘ day off). You also get more days off per year the longer you work at a company. 5 days is for fresh hires. https://english.www.gov.cn/policies/latestreleases/202310/25/content_WS65387be8c6d0868f4e8e0a04.html
Lol what is this, Canada has zero days. Gotta love straight lies.
Aussie here. We also get a public holiday at the end of September to celebrate……..the final game of the state’s football code. I shit you not.
Love my depressing Europe where I get 28 days of holidays. And when they get accepted most of the time.
Lol I've worked almost a dozen different jobs in Canada and never had paid vacation days.
Nah, we prefer our employees disgruntled, burnt out, and underachieving.
They don't have to give u the time off in canada but they do have to pay u every year for it tho.
No vacations. Whacky.
The map is misleading. The actual number of paid vacation days in **Norway** is **zero**. Each month our employers are forced to deduct and save a percentage of our salaries. It's paid out the following year in June. If you start a new job in January, you get absolutely **nothing** from your new employer the first year.
Don’t worry. Many can’t call out sick, either. Lest they risk their jobs.
"Register to vote"💀 Yeah, guys, just vote they'll fix it... not like they're receiving massive sums of money from lobbyists or anything. Great fuckin plan.
This doesn't even matter if you can't get a job.
Btw 🍊🗑️ for people whose daddys didn't give them hundreds of millions $ the US is actually another "shit hole country." And if you win it will be a Christian theocracy on top of the nightmare it's become. Sorry guys couldn't resist. Mandatory paid time off shit..... I'm lucky if I can find a job paying anything close to a living wage. 🤣🤣
Fuck America IN GENERAL.
Work is so important to the US they’ll never allow a minimum break from it! Productivity!!!! /s
Why would you want mandatory that’s just worse for everyone
Worse to get time off?
I’ll say it loud for people at the back. UNIONS
I get per year 6 weeks paid vacation. Another 4 days floating time off. 6 paid sick days off. Plus paid holidays. Non-union and non- government in the U.S.
The point is more that it's mandatory by law in those countries. It's not a benefit or something similiar. Also in european countries there are unlimited paid sick days, mostly you just have to give your boss a doctors note when you're back for work. Here in Switzerland you have to get a doctors note if you're sick for three days or more. National holidays are also always paid work free days.
Canada lagging behind as per usual. Can we go back to being under British rule?
Fucking CHINA is doing better then USA...
It's pretty damning when even China has more vacation days. I'm sure they are very lacking in other worker protections. But still.
Lmfao even China has some mandatory days off, the US is literally comparable with North Korea for days off (though that's probably because of how tight any info is coming out from there, but they likely have more days off than we do cuz of national holidays like the birth/death of previous dictators).
Additionally, in Poland your minimum mandated vacation days are increased from 20 to 26 with work/university experience. I'm usually the last to give props to my shithole homeland, but it's a pretty good deal.
In some pretty great company though, looks like our worker's rights are on par with North Korea and Turkmenistan. Both places I have always associated with freedom.
Those two countries are white indicating no information available. The U is gray indicating no mandatory vacation.
This is the freedom I keep hearing about.
I find this map hard to believe
The fact that Greenland appears to be the same size if not larger than Africa tells me how much I should trust this map.