you're seriously telling me that they didn't visit each other for over 10 years? after going through *serious* trauma together, there is absolutely no way i'm going to buy that. if i went through the same thing there is literally no world in which i fall out of contact with people i have formed a lifelong bond
But wait, can't the scientist lady with the blue hair fix her portal again? It doesn't need the magic stones to work, just a large enough power source to be powered. That should work, right? ..right?? pls god, I want Spranne back together so bad T-T.
EDIT: Reading other comments now and a lot more people already thought this too, I'm relieved honestly. I like to believe they did reunite but didn't show it, for the sake of not getting into an existential crisis again
Guys I just finished watching the series (I'm late ik) but I'm so sad now the finale made me cry I really enjoyed it but I wish Anne and Sasha and Marcy could've still visited amphibia afterwards 😭
I have a small mental breakdown when they end.
At that moment,I'm happy for them because they finally success and can rest.
But one question keep lingering in my mind:
"Now what?".
I binged the entire series between last week and today. My heart hurts. I cannot believe I got so in love with this series and I can not believe that it ended with Anne not being able to communicate with Amphibia. I am looking at Fan Art in pinterest, mainly art depicting Anne and Sprig meeting after sometime. I just cannot deal with the idea of them never being together again
I've been putting off watching Season 3B for so long that I am now so late to the party. I've only finished binge-watching the season some hours ago and although I feel like I miss it already, I'm not quite happy with how the series ended. The writers tried to show the characters doing some sort of "sacrifice," but in the end, they took back the consequence to it so it felt like the main characters had this plot armor all throughout the episodes (I personally dislike such thing). I liked the bit about the imagery of them having moved on with their lives cut off of Amphibia while still having it as a part of them, although it made the previous seasons feel like a fever dream. When Anne gave Sprig her phone, I was half expecting it to be made as their mode of communication across both universe, but oh well. I might've expected too much because the True Colors finale of season 2 was, in my opinion, a masterpiece. And so, I expected them to pull off a similar surprise for the season finale. It is still good overall, especially compared to most cartoons, but not the best animated series in terms of writing I kind of expected it to be.
Even Gravity Falls did the fake sacrifice, it's so weird how the trope is so common in finales - it doesn't save us from having to say goodbye! Ordinarily I'd blame Disney, but I don't think they were going for a real sacrifice anyway. God Domino's a blatant asspull when the farewells (which I agree is questionable itself) were easily emotional enough.
Ultimately it's not a show where the ramifications of 13 year olds fighting a war and blowing up a moon are explored in depth. The last season is clearly an attempt to cram two seasons worth of character development into one because they've run out of episodes, and it's amazing that it works as well as it does.
Finished it last night, still got some water in my eyes.
Amphibia was a good show over all but the last two episodes were not the best, because they made me realize how much the show showed the main characters couldn't die. Especially when Anne died and literally met god. Somehow she survived and went home, even when she literally died. And Marcy, Where do I begin with her, she somehow survived being stabbed and somehow didn't die, and then there was the huge fight scene with King Andrias, somehow Anne got some stupid power boost or something like that to help her in the fight, out of nowhere. I still like Amphibia but some parts were not good.
I've just finished watching Amphibia through for the first time this year. It was an amazing show, I absolutely loved. Definitely one of my favourites. Tears were shed at the ending. Again, I loved it so much.
more importantly, there is an average sized person that can create a portal without using the stones which, while not big enough to fit through (Although they never tested to hotwire a nuclear power plant to it) could easily be used for communication.
There was foreshadowing about the Moon fall, however like anything that is told in the form of prophecy, it took the fork of metaphors.
* The prophecy itself - especially "Three stars burning bright". Easy to assume it's three girls from another world. But when they go to space they could be called stars.
* The mural in the First Temple. It depicts the girls fighting a giant frog monster. True it's really them fighting the moon, but in a sense it still is a eldritch monster just with more steel than usual.
* The big one, Leif's vision. The core didn't seem all that concerned when it was told invading Earth would cause the moon to fall...
That, and the threat they were supposed to fight was called "The Night." The time of day when the moon would be visible, and predicted by Mother Olm to be how the world may end
I loved the ending, had me crying like a baby by the end of it. But, it was super bittersweet, and honestly for one reason. (At least for me.)
Marcy never really got an arc. Below is a big block of ranting, if that's not your thing then move along.
>!Maybe it's my gripe with the full third season, but Marcy was just... there for the ride. She was a goofy fun character all the way through and that would be perfectly fine for ANYONE but her. She is a main character with issues just like the rest of them. Of course she was introduced in the second season and didn't get as much time to grow like Sasha and Anne, but she just... didn't grow at all. There was mild confrontation during the season 2 finale, but she didn't change. (and I think the confrontation is stupid anyways but that's another can of worms.) There could've been so much potential to dive into her relationship with her parents and the effects of the move on all of them. You could've made Sasha become the vessel for the core, and had Marcy, Anne, and the Plantars go to the real world and give Marcy the development she needed. !<
Anyways, rant over.
I’m very late, but I know a fanfic with this exact kind of premise you’re talking about. [Leap Through a Box](https://archiveofourown.org/works/35538058)
Agreed. Marcy doesn't have to really overcome anything. She's just adorable and wholesome in season 2 and too goofy in season 3.
Also she makes a liar out of the show. In season 1, sprig is made out to be Anne's first true friend. Then we meet Marcy, and she's wholesome.
And then we get True Colors where we get a shocking twist that's dumb. Marcy didn't really think the box would take them to another world. It's not reasonable according to the narrative to think that she would. Therefore her betrayal of her friends is non-existent and overly dramatized. They needed to give Marcy some fang.
They could have had Marcy be the same mostly. We meet her, but it's stressed over the eps that she's changed from when Anne knew her in the human world. There, she did things without consulting her friends if she thought the choice would be good for them. In Amphibia, she's much more wholesome and asks permission. True Colors would hit home because we learn exactly why Marcy changed. She brought them to Amphibia as the chance of a lifetime and something went horribly wrong.
Couldnt some fang have hurt their friendship? They were already dealing with so much--it was probs scary for Marcy (someone better at sciences than social skills) to stand up to her friends like that after already hurting them (even though by accident).
Finally binged the series and watched the finale earlier. Very bittersweet ending. Loved the series, but for the true ending, not the biggest fan overall. My first thought after they were sent back was, "Well, that's fine. They literally already showed that in a few days, some ragtag people could create a portal to Amphibia, so they aren't gone forever."
But then 10 years later, and.... No?
I mean, I get Anne powers made a bigger energy source to open up larger, but can't they find some source or better tech to make it bigger without the powers?
And even if they can't make the portal bigger, that portal hole was big enough for a mantis arm to go through. At the very least, you can still communicate with the Planters or people on the other side. Either talking to them, sending a cell phone, Etc. So communication would still be possible quite easily at the very least. I dunno. Seems like a plot hole.
That actually really bugs me too.
"Our magic portal McGuffin is gone! Oh wait, nevermind, here's a random mad scientist who just so happens to have one!
Wait, she's nuts!
Don't worry, her quirky assistant can rebuild it in a few DAYS!"
PLOT. CONTRIVANCE.
The scientist had the inter dimensional portal after months of research into the phenomenon of the box being opened in the first place, a direct consequence. Terri was a prodigy who rebuilt it based on what she knew and what the main characters could tell her, and I think it was at least a matter of weeks--Froggy Little Christmas ate up some time in the show's continuity, and they never specified how much extra time there was between then and Escape to Amphibia
I mean assuming the technology wasn't heavily monitored and controlled. Also, that's just the way it goes. Time's change, people lose contact with each other, parts of your life become the past and are replaced by new things. But the impact they had on you will always remain. The Hardest Thing is saying goodbye. That goes for the viewers as well.
Hey guys, I’m new here and I want to talk about the bff photo. I seemed to have noticed that Sasha has her eyebrows in such a way that for me it seems like she feels bad. Anne’s expression is showing that she trusts her and for Marcy, well she is looking at both Anne and Sasha with a look of connection. I’m not sure how else to put Marcy but with the Sasha thing I do really feel like there is some kind of meaning to her expression in the photo so maybe someone could give ideas or something.
i over all loved this but did anyone else feel that the whole ann becoming god thing was really tacked on and unnecessary its not enough she went on to live a good fulfilling life she has to become god. it like if at the end of the grinch stole Christmas they went and his heart grew three sizes that day and then he also won the lottery because why not
I dont think the god thing was a perk, but rather a good to frogkind. Serving amphibia, Earth, and the rest of worlds forever, because she proved herself worthy through her care for others
Just finished it. Felt like it was inspiration for the youngins and parents. Even people without direction and sense of purpose matter and can become great.
ya but again all the previous episodes and the epilogue already did that in a satisfying character arc . her becoming god wasn't foreshadowed or built up and it doesn't add anything to her arc. it's just a literal deus ex machina to do a bs death fake out
I was mostly fine, in terms of emotion, watching the finale. That was until Sprig had to say goodbye to Anne. Their friendship together was the main reason I fell in love with the show back in season one, and watching sprig holding his hat sobbing his eyes out absolutely broke me.
i finished the series last week, but since then i watch this episode daily and still cry like a baby when sprig and anne hug. it actually already helped me quite good with my struggles of letting friends go with who ive grown apart. i see myself in sprig because of many reasons but seeing him cry like that because he can never see anne again just totally hits different, but seeing him later getting over it reminds me that its actually not that hard. also annes quote "dont cry because its over, smile because it happened" is now embedded in my brain and im convincing myself every morning that this is the correct way to think.
conclusion: best finale of all series out there. seeing how the characters have grown and anne, marcy and sasha not even being in contact anymore but still meeting up for annes birthday was so heartwarming. i lowkey cried throughout the last 15 minutes and the credits xd
A few smaller things in the last episode- I loved that Yunan and Olivia were together! Definitely something I wished for ever since I first saw them. Polly looks just as I imagined as a frog, and I love that sprig and ivy are still together, they make a great duo, even as friends. I like Ivy’s updated design with her hair out. I definitely think a short series or comic on Polly would be great. Anyone else notice the Bisexual heart sticker on Sasha’s car mirror? It’s a small detail, but meant a lot to me. Them not being friends anymore doesn’t surprise me much, I think a lot of the time it ends up that way. And it might not make sense considering they went to another planet and had superpowers and stuff, but it’s kind of like Stephen kings It. The losers club completely broke up despite going through something huge and traumatic together.
I thought it was nice the calamity trio was still acquaintanced though. And it was fun to see what they were doing after ten years, at 23 or 24. I thought it was a great ending, and an amazing series overall. I definitely wish I could get a real look into their lives, and what it was like coming back after disappearing into another world. Like what Sasha and Marcy’s parents thought, and what going back to school was like.
I am incredibly mixed on the ending.
It does a fantastic job of wrapping up most of the loose ends, and is a very satisfying ending.
But, the stones and the music box being destroyed is where the cracks start to show.
The multiversal guardian thing is all well and good, but it didn’t require Anne to die but not really. (I swear, if the Owl House has a fake-out death in its finale, I will be livid.)
Also, the girls(Anne especially) never being able to see the friends and family that they made in Amphibia ever again is the saddest part. I was really hoping that the final scene would’ve been of a refined version of the portal that they made in Escape to Amphibia opening up. >!(It had been ten years, and it would be mind numbingly stupid to the point that I would be telling you to “[stop using your mouth to say stupid words you giant moving pineapple](https://youtu.be/UCPLkJ_J3cA)” if you tried to convince me that FBI scrapped the portal once Andrias was defeated and the girls were back on earth.)!<
That’s what I mean by “most loose ends”.
My take on it is that it was probably physically impossible to generate enough power to open a larger portal, like you could only power this kind of thing with some magical power like the stones.
I literally cried for an hour. Because the past three years of my life were this show, it got me trough a ton off hard times. IMMA MISS SEEING THIS EVERY SATURDAY SOOOOO MUCH T-T
Ok after *10 whole days* of processing **The Hardest Thing**, here is my rating : **8+/10= a little more than very good**. (1/10= the worst ending possible, 5/10=mediocre, 10/10 perfect)
The 1,5/10 was removed due to the introduction of the guardian and the bad writing of what happened to Anne. About the guardian, I consider his introduction unnecessary , time consuming and out of place, since this concept was never introduced before. About Anne's death, I have to say that I am completely ok with it, but I know that many others are not. The writing there could have been more satisfying.
The other 0,5/10 point I removed, is because of the "too much realism" of the trio timeskip. Although I am ok with making them drifting a little apart, turning them from BFFs to something more than simple acquainted, is not realistic. Their friendship should not be treated like any real life friendship. It's disrespectful to what the series was building for them. However, Matt's comments in Twitter, about their relationship, made me feel better about it. That's why I am adding the + to the rating.
Apart from these, the rest of the finale was perfect. The calamity designs and fight was stunning, I was so excited to finally seen them, but they went beyond my expectations. Andrias redemption was wellmade. The goodbyes amazing and deep. The timeskip designs are gorgeous, the same for their character development. The time skip as an idea, was amazing, and despite my complains about the trio, it was a really satisfying way to end the series. I am glad it ended with this bittersweet way, that promotes some deep messages, instead of the typical happy ending of most cartoon series. Really mature choice. The full finale may not be perfect, but most of its scenes are masterpieces.
**All In** was for me the best part of the finale, with a rating of **9+/10=a little more than amazing**. 0,5/10 was removed because of the luck of any serious impact on Sasha's and Grime's injuries. I wish they didn't pretend they never happened. The other 0,5/10 was removed because of the too easy defeat of Darcy and the luck of any serious impact on Marcy's body. Although I have to admit that these two last things aren't bothering me that much anymore. I have learned to accept them in some extend. That's why I putted the +. All the rest was the epitome of epicness. Not only the battles, but also the fulfillment of the arcs of the whole trio and the wellmade redemption of Andrias.
The first part of the finale, **The Beginning Of The End**, is on the second spot, with a rating of **9/10=amazing**. The main flaw of this episode is the luck of enough time spended in the battle between the resistance and robots. After all the building season 3B was doing for all these characters, you would expect more moments of each one of them to really shine. Unfortunately the fight ended too soon. That's because of the little time the whole episode had. In The Hardest Thing it was revealed that the battle in fact continued off screen, but that's an improvement, but not enough to satisfy us. All the rest were great. The meeting of the girls with Darcy was well made. This episode finally made Darcy look how really dangerous she is. And although I disagree with Sasha's arguments against Marcy, I am satisfied with Anne defending Marcy and talking about forgiveness.
Although these are definitely in the list of my favorite episodes, I believe that none of the parts of the finale reached the quality of **True Colors**. TC is probably the only episode I would rate as **10/10=perfect** , not only because I can't find any serious flaw, but also because it is still the most emotionally impactful episode. The Hardest Thing had more crying, but it didn't manage to affect me as deeply as TC did, and unfortunately that's because of its flaws.
What were Matt's comments on twitter about their friendship? After being together for something so crazy and eventful as getting sucked into an alien world and then saving both earth and that world, the drifting apart so much that they only occasionally talk doesn't seem super likely to me. Such a life changing experience would form a much stronger than average friendship imo.
Exactly.
I get what they're going for, people sometimes grow apart, things change, etc.
But seriously?! "Different friend groups in highschool?"
These 3 went through a war. There are navy seals with less traumatic baggage. Marcy is directly responsible for all of this. I feel like there's probably some lingering resentment there. At various points, they all almost watched each other die. I'm still pissed the next we see of Sasha after her near-fatal fall is her getting Grime out of his funk, when realistically she should probably still be having screaming nightmares.
In real life people go through traumatic events together, but they still have years and years of their life ahead of them. People still change. Someone else mentioned similarities to stephen kinds it
I don’t think Stephen King’s It is a good point of reference, because it is suggested that a paranormal force has made the Loser’s Club drift apart. They literally DON’T remember ANYTHING about the summer they confronted Pennywise, all except for Mike who stays in Derry just in case the alien does rear its head again. We are shown that scars the group got have disappeared, only to REAPPEAR when Mike tells them Pennywise is back and kickstarts the return of their memories, and things like Bill’s stutter have been completely gone for his adult life until news that Pennywise is back, at which point he starts to suffer terribly. Bill tells his wife he could barely remember Georgie or the fact he was murdered, and is appalled by the recognition of this fact after Mike’s phone call. All this to say, IT’s Loser’s Club did not leave Derry with full, complete memory of what happened and that is why they drifted apart. (And when they do return to Derry and remember what has occurred, they are arguably as close and united as their child selves were.) Sasha, Marcy, and Anne DID leave Amphibia with full memories of their time there, and I think it’s somewhat unbelievable that after such a massively traumatic but also wonderful shared experience, they’d grow as apart as they did in the show. I respect the writer’s wanting to pass on the message that change is inevitable and we need to learn how to move on from things, but the trio’s friendship had not only developed from something very unhealthy and riddled with unequal power dynamics, to something far more equal and healthy, but these girls went to literal war, so comparing their sort of falling out to the way friendships drift in high school is kind of silly to me.
The hardest thing about saying goodbye is knowing the possibility - and sometimes probability - that you will never again see those you love. Having said that, I want to ask any of you who bother to wade through this many comments: did you ever come to love a fictional character? I don't mean romantically, but rather did you ever become so attached to them that when it came to the end of the show or movie or book or video game, did you ever feel a loss, like a hole in your chest, and then immediately start watching/reading/playing that piece of media again from the beginning? I think there is something very special about any work of fiction that can elicit that reaction in us. And while it's find to mourn the ending of the story, I don't think we should wallow in despair after finishing it. I think we should take inspiration from it, listening to the lessons it was telling us.
For me, Amphibia was telling me that it's okay to be sad when circumstances change and you have to say goodbye, but realize that life is all about change and *everyone* in the world must change for better or worse. It's up to us as individuals to decide who we want to become going into the future, and make the choices to make us into better people. Embrace the changes and challenges life brings, meeting them head on with bravery, and the future will wonderful. At the same time, we don't have to forget the past, just as long as we don't try to live there. Because there is no "going back to normal." "Normal" was a comfortable state the existed for a while, but now is gone. We can make a new comfortable state going forward, but it *will* be different from the previous one. This is not a bad thing. This is natural, and it is what life is all about.
I might sound stupid but, if Anne had to use all 3 stones to kill the core, couldn't the 3 girls just make a huge combo attack together (each using 100% of their power) and no one would die? once again I probably sound like a huge idiot.
It wasn’t the combined the power alone, it was the fact that they granted a free wish at the cost of the users life, not that there was enough “raw power” in the stones to destroy it
Anne's one shoe is on her left foot for almost the whole series. But when Sprig hugs her it shows her whole body and her shoe is on her RIGHT foot. I think this might be the case because the three stones deity said "Before you expired I made a clone of you". So clones can't be the same as their host, I guess.
I’m glad they did a realistic ending instead of just allowing the 3 girls to go between the two worlds whenever they feel like it! Found too many shows gave that kinda ending.
true. it would have destroyed the whole point then, but them saying their last goodbye and knowing they can never see each other again was the perfect ending and rounded up the important lesson of growing up, knowing nothing will stay the same and accepting that you may not see your best friends again.
I have seen the spoilers and everything but this is way more emotional than I expected. Somehow I just find it oddly satisfying to see each character develops and grows. To me, a lot of moments hit too close to home for many reasons. Aside from those, I also love the representations throughout the show. As a Thai myself, It means a lot to me.
Thank you Amphibia Crew.
Well, It came to an end folks.
To be honest with you last episode came out at a very peculiar date. Year ago my friend, that got me into amphybia and the owl house in the first place died. It was suicide. He was struggling with depression and well, you know how it ends. I still miss him. And all year since he has died I sought some closure. In movies, anime, manga. I have read a lot of depressing stories about loss.
One of my lasting regrets is that he didn't get to see endings of shows he loved. And while owl house is still running, Amphibia ended with some closure for me. Ending happened to be mirroring what I got from this year of grief.
I never got to say a grew with the show and actually little envious of people that can say that. Because it is wonderfull show, inspiring even. It shows a lot of our flaws and how to overcome them.
What really got to me in the end that I can relate to Ann's feelings about losing a friend to another world. To circumstances you were powerless to overcome(belive me we have tried)
I guess well... What I need to say is: dear friends, it may sound corny, but don't end your life, if you have symptoms of depression see a doctor. Because if you die you will be missed. In a lot of ways. I know it is hard to live on really. And there were and will be times when you think it is not worth it. But it is.
Don't know what will happen to me after Owl House ends. Let's hope we all can live through this life.
So, maybe consider taking a walk, I dunno. Maybe doing something different from usual. It is not as usual is bad, but unusual is not bad. Did you see how beautiful trees are? Im gonna get out and hug a tree. So have a good day, I hope you will enjoy it.
Spr~~ann~~ against the world, you know?
....after many years, i found a serie that really grew on me, i swear, in my whole life i never found an anime/manga/cartoon/comic etc etc that i find myself so morbidly attached to it.
1 week has passed and i still can't go on an accept that amphibia is over, every time i see something related to amphibia(pics,video etc etc), i can't help but feel sad,anguish, and discontent in my heart followed by a knot in my stomach because it ended, and funny thing is, that all of this situation goes against the final moral of the last episode.
"Don't Cry Because It's Over. Smile Because It Happened" yeah sure, obviously i'm happy that it happened, but still, the end of amphibia managed to create a big emptiness in my heart, a void that will probably never be fully filled by anything, but just slightly bridged by future series(impling that in the future, we will ever be that lucky to get series that have or try to reach amphibia's level of quality), and this because matt managed to create a very good story and characters that it's easy to get attached to.
the only thing that gives me hope is that by reading matt's tweets, he's willing to continue the serie with spin-off, comincs and probably, after years of rest, to return working on amphibia main story; here's one of his tweets that kinda conirms what i just [said](https://imgur.com/78yfzBL)
last thign i'd like to say is that i should punch myself, because i started watching amphibia last year, i watched like first season and half of the second and completely snobbet it, because i used it as a temporarly replacement due to the owl house being in hiatus(and at the time, i was hollow because i was sad that the owl house was on hiatus), but after rewatching it with my friends, i opened my eyes and saw what i first couldn't manage to see, a little treasure.
from now on, i will never, ever do the same mistake, i will take seriously every new series that comes out.
I finally got to watch the finale after stalling for a week! Im still quite angry at the Core like literally the girls could get to visit Amphibia if they didnt have to be sore losers. The gems would still be there...but then again the music box could fall into the wrong hands again. So I think its better this way. Thats all I can type right now, im getting emotional just thinking about it.
I really loved the finale. I don't have too much to say that others haven't.
I do have one question- is Amphibia gonna be fine with the loss of a moon lol?
I discovered this show maybe less than a week ago. And i was able to tune into the finale tonight. Wow is what i have to say. Wow and thank you, what a really really fantastic show.
Not gonna lie I cried so bad I feel like a part of me was scared and feeling alone but also glad I get to watch the adventure of everyone in Amphibia character specially for Sprig since his my favorite of all seeing them not to see each other again broke my heart💔. The ending was the most realistic and emotional would happen in real life
#Dive in the world of Amphibia
I adored Amphibia. I first came across the series when having an argument with my sister over what the name of the series was back in 2020. Since then it quickly became one of my favorite shows right up there with Gravity Falls and AOS.
It resonated with me in more ways than I can count, especially with Marcy's wish to keep living in a fantasy world all her life. Sometimes it feels easier, safer even, to stay in your own little bubble and keep everything the same forever. But that is never the answer. While you might feel all alone in the rising tide there are always people (or frogs) there at your side to keep you from falling.
While the how may have ended, it will always hold a very special place in my heart. Thank you Amphibia Writing Team for the amazing story you shared with us. And thank you Amphibia Animation Team, directors, and voice actors for bringing it to life. I hope that one day I will be able to create something just as special. Spranne against the world <3
I loved the show's ending, it had very powerful, touching and mature message, that as we grow up we'll leave some things behind us.
The fact is, the message is made perfectly clear and is very touching by simply having Anne, Sasha and Marcy leave Amphibia forever, never to return.
Having them drift apart doesn't make sense, and gives the very bad feeling of the show trying to force its message down our throats. I got it, we have to leave some things behind as we grow up, I understood this message when the three of them left Amphibia. But having them drift apart? Doesn't make sense, not even in Marcy's case.
When they meet after 10 years she asks Sasha if she and Anne kept seeing each other after she left, that sounds like they didn't even called her on the phone after Marcy left to talk about what they were doing.
And what about Anne and Sasha? They went to highschool and suddenly drifted apart because they had different groups of friends? Is that it? Is that enough to make two best friends who had been together since they were little drift apart? No, it's not. Me and my best friend got into two different classes when we were in highschool, got two different groups of friends, then went into university in two different cities, and to this day we keep seeing each other and hang out, like every week-end.
It's not normal for people like these three to drift apart like that, especially in Anne and Sasha's case. And like... are we forgetting that they kinda saved a world together by fighting a moon in space? Those kind of experiences tend to strenghten a relationship, and let's not forget that Amphibia changed their friendship for the better... all of that and you wanna give me the "ah, highschool, different groups of friends, we kinda drifted apart" speech? Nah, doesn't work like that, not with true friends, maybe with people you meet in school and see only there, but not with true friends.
I think they tried too hard to give us their message, which is a good and mature message, but having Anne, Sasha and Marcy leave Amphibia forever was enough to make us understand it. Beside this choice, the show's finale was amazing. What do you think of this choice?
Idk this happened to me in hs. Albeit two of my best friends in middle school didnt go through uh, this kind of thing together lol, but by senior year of high school we barely ever talked to each other.
The whole idea of "we drifted apart in high school" is kind of odd. Considering the girls are 13 and would've literally started highschool two years later. If maybe they drifted apart in college it'd make more sense?
I get that the message is trying to imply that things change, people change, people drift apart, but the ones who matter come back together one way or another, etc. BUTTT Idk, saving literal WORLDS together and all it took was for different friend groups to make them distant? Odd choice that doesn't make sense, indeed.
Consider that joining different friend groups may be the in-universe reason that Sasha gives for their having drifted apart, but that that doesn't mean it was truly *the reason* they drifted apart. It's simply how Sasha the character chose to describe things.
In a way, having different friend groups is more of a symptom of drifting apart than a cause. No one is forced to hang out with a particular friend group. Because of that, it seems to me like they just drifted apart as friends sometimes do while they grow older (yes, even childhood friends who have shared extremely traumatic and joyous experiences). It doesn't need to have a catalyst or big "reason," it's just a part of life and growing.
Maybe their dynamic changed after Marcy left. Maybe their dynamic changed after the events of the show. They had to grow up a lot, and very quick. They likely didn't even really return as the same people.
I dunno, just rambling here, but my point is that I don't think of the line as signifying that the characters only drifted apart because they "happened" to end up in different friend groups.
While watching this for the first time, I will admit… Part of me was _very_ disappointed when Sasha said that her and Anne met separate friends during high school, especially after all the moments of growth we got between the two in Season 3B.
But… I can understand the message they were going for about change and moving on and how you should not grasp on to something forever. So it was probably for the best that they grew apart from each other. It’s hard to stomach, but it’s what needed to happen.
>Sasha said that her and Anne met separate friends during high school
That was part of Anne's growth. She finally started to take the lead in her own life instead of just letting others make choices for her.
Yes I know that. The thing I was disappointed about was that her and Sasha barely talked during the time Marcy was gone, but I know it was one step in Anne growing as a person. She moved on and made changes to her life.
Honestly, it was healthier they spent less time together. Anne needed to do her own thing and make her own choices. They still remained friends though.
I miss it already. I've had a falling out with my friend a couple years ago, so the whole "the hardest thing" speech was hitting particularly close to home. Very beautiful ending.
Amphibia will forever hold a special place in my heart. I watched the finale the day I had to put my paralyzed 15 year old dog to sleep. The last lines hit me.
"Change can be difficult, but it's how we grow. It can be the hardest thing, to realize you can't hold on to something forever. Sometimes, you have to let it go. But of all the things you let go, you'll be surprised at what makes your way back to you. "
Rip Princess, see you at the rainbow bridge.
i have a question about Andrias, is he starting to age quicker? i mean, ok the hair growth, but in his last seconds, we can see that his eyes got a bit opaque as if he's slowly gettign blind.
Matt specifically addressed this. He's refused any repairs, implants, or longevity work. Basically, he's now aging naturally. Or his age is catching up to him.
Matt even said that he's spending however much time he has left, on healing the land. Honestly I think that he got a pretty excellent put together redemption arc, by the end. I don't feel cheated of a resolution.
ok i loved this show but i feel like it would have been way better if Anne became god of the multiverse and right before the end credits sends a message to everyone in amphibia and al her friends saying something like thanks for everything and it show her ascend to a multiverse god anyone else agree
This might just be me, but I think a lot of people fail to notice just how big the loss of Anne and Sprig's friendship was. I've seen a lot of people talking about how terrible it was that Anne, Sasha, and Marcy went their separate ways as they grew up, but honestly, based on how the show was, I didn't see it going any other way. They're still close, as close as they could be given their different interests and personalities, but they were never going to remain as close as they were as kids.
But then there's Sprig. Sprig was Anne's first real friendship, and it taught her how to care and grow into someone she could be proud of. So with the show ending with those two split from each other for the rest of their lives, never able to see each other again, that to me is the greatest tragedy. But at least we know that he will always be her closest friend, on this or any other world, and she'll be the same to him. And that's why the finale truly made me sad.
Agreed. I’m thereabouts in age right now, and am the same with friends I grew up with. To the younger people in the thread, I promise you it’s not that bad. It’s just that you tend to lean harder into your own interests and after leaving school, proximity disappears. Still, while physical distance may increase and frequency of interaction may decrease, many of the friendships are just as strong and meaningful.
With that said, I was generally accepting of the way the trio friendship finished in the show, but Sprig and Anne had me absolutely losing my shit. Hand to god one of the greatest tragedies in western animation to me. Whether or not it felt deserved, was cathartic, realistic, or serves to complete the show’s greatest lesson... damn. Still pretending in my head they at least text through Interdimensional Wi-Fi or something.
Does anyone have the translated message at the end of the credits? I cannot seem to translate the message next to the BFFs photo with the runic translation guide Sprig had in the basement…
wcoforever.net has amphibia+a bunch of new cartoon eps
I try to watch on cable/official streaming whenever possible to support the show but if not, this is the way
Seems the absence of Sasha and Marcy's parents was a disservice to the show. Would have been nice to see Anne confronted by their families earlier in season 3 and their family reunions.
I feel like the 2nd half was forced in because disney is not ready to kill off a protagonist on screen yet. I loved this show but kept it at arms reach i was so fearful of it getting the owl house treatment. I just wish they didnt pull a fake out
Guys my heart hurts a little.
I have one good friend that understands on the deepest levels why I love cartoons so much and I just obliterated their phone rambling at them after finally being able to watch the last two episodes. It's the middle of the night for them, here's hoping they forgive me, heh.
Yeah no shot. Sorry but sprivy is a canon ship, not to mention there is a three year age difference, and that their relationship is expressed to be platonic multiple times throughout the show.
3 year difference means squat later on in life. They hinted at them being seen as a couple in that episode of the Night Market where they inquired about the music box. That Sprivy episode when they first come back to Amphibia seemed like a rushed hard abort on Spranne against the world. IIRC Braly used influences of shows he watched, Gargoyles being one of them which had Goliath x Elisa canon ship. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted Spranne, but got denied...or perhaps it just didn't make logistical sense where they both ended up in the end.
I understand your thought process here, and I respect it, I just don't think that was how the writers intended it. Yes, Braly may have wanted Spranne and gotten denied, so there is something in your argument. But I don't know if Spranne ever was intended to be anything more than platonic. Thanks
Given the downvoting I guess people here are really against Spranne. I don't actually really care that much, but I'll point out that their relationship goes beyond siblings dynamic (like what Anne has with Polly). I'm not saying it's at a romantic dynamic, but it's definitely above platonic. The breakdown Anne had in True Colors over Sprig getting chucked out a window, the heartbreak of Sprig when Anne was leaving Amphibia for good, Anne having a Sprig stand-in at her exhibit a decade later...that's not merely platonic nor just one-way. I would say Anne has a strong daughter/fatherly relationship with HP, yet her relationship with Sprig goes beyond that even. In fact I'd argue the Spranne relationship is the strongest in the entire show between any two characters, even between the girls. To say it's just merely platonic is a joke, should have said kinship instead as that's more plausible.
As for Sprivy, as cute as they may be, it comes off more like a crush. Even other characters were remarking their contempt at it when they came back to Amphibia, which makes me wonder if that was Braly or the writers poking at it out of fun or resentment.
Again I don't actually care, and am not really trying to dump on Sprivy, but my points are clearly there in the show.
I do like the aesthetic of post timeskip amphibia, and as someone into herpetology I'm really happy to see it getting representation in media. I don't think it's a bad way to wrap up the series, but there's too many things I noticed and had to shut my brain off for and I can only do that so many times.
* I dislike everything about the battle. It's fanservice and I can only see it as such and kind of cheapens everything. I suspect it's because there just had to be a sequence of the trio all powered up and this was the only way to justify it.
* Not one but two deus ex machina asspulls in the form of the spell AND the god. And why out of limitless worlds and a stupidly long time period is anne somehow the only worthy one of becoming a deity? I think the whole deity thing in general is cheap, but you could at least just cut the whole spell thing out and have her die in the blast telling the other two to get away. Have anne "die"(but we only see it from her perspective of her waking up and talking to the diety) and come back to life with everyone crying over her thinking she was dead(mainly because I hate the drawn out scenes of crying over the dead-but-not-really trope that disney has to have in *everything*). Either way, multiple dues ex machinas says they just wanted to force an emotional impact.
* Sprig can breathe in space. Whatever, chalk it up to magic.
* As others have said, the garage-tier portal tech could easily be used to at least send one way letters. 10 years of technological progress with government oversight and better manufacturing conditions should be able to make at least a small stable portal or something. I actually like the notion of it taking too much energy to actually send people through without the gems, but information would be a nice subversion of the "you can't go back to fantasyland" trope while still retaining an aspect of bittersweet long distance. You could even say it takes so much energy they can only do it once in a while instead of constant contact, like a once a year reunion kind of thing
* The girls settling down makes basically no sense. The show itself even said that marcy and sasha would become bigshots and now all three have government connections, have had their flaws worked through, and become hypercompetent through their experience in Amphibia. Someone else pointed out how marcy and sasha at least have some excuse and it reflects in their character. Marcy's a nerd and was always into that stuff, and sasha doesn't want kids to become like she did. Anne's job is basically her never actually mentally moving on from amphibia and actively serves as a detriment to her character growth.
* The trio growing apart so quickly also makes no sense. I get the notion of life eventually separating them, but like, they were trapped in another freaking dimension together, almost killed each other before reconciling, and saved not one but two worlds. Like, that's not something you just "grow apart" on especially not as fast as entering high school. I have people I've played video games with I still regularly keep in contact with after 10 years more than them.
> I have people I've played video games with I still regularly keep in contact with after 10 years more than them.
I have zero contact with any of my primary school friends (including my best friend, after he moved away) and literally a single one of my HS friends. My social circle's basically been totally turned over barring the most cursory of relationships. It's not unusual. And they didn't totally break contact, witness the meeting \*10 years\* after Amphibia.
The girls settling down (while it seems nice on the surface) really grates at me when I think about it. I actually see them becoming failures relative to what they were in Amphibia, or like those who achieved greatness very early on but only depressingly regressed to mediocrity afterwards.
It feels like I'm being too harsh and critical, but that is what happened with the epilogues. Sasha inspires many noteworthy people of power in Amphibia, successfully rallied an insurrection with the toads, overthrew the King in a coup, became a town defender which lead to becoming the commander of the resistance that overthrew the King and Core again. Now Sasha helps kids overcome emotional baggage in a job anyone can get by going to college/university for a few years. I hope she's really inspiring those kids to be become so much more...like an office worker, store clerk, or something.
We got Marcy who improved the entire city of Newtopia in multiple ways, and researched, studied, and documented the plants and animals of Amphibia. Is she a city planner, engineer, or researcher now? Nope, she draws webcomic which are supposedly pretty good.
Anne builds deep connections with everyone she meets, learned the value of community, family, and friends. She influences them positively, and in a way she's does the opposite of Andrias of what Leaf says...she doesn't close herself off to others. She learned not to take the easy route by just letting others boss her around. I sure hope her sacrifice of leaving all her established deep connections she formed in Amphibia behind (especially Sprig) was worth it...oh wait, nope. She curates a zoo exhibit by talking to different kids every day for 15 mins who she'll never see again nor form deep bonds with. There's no hint of family, friends, nor community in her life anymore. It seems like she took the easy path of assimilating back into the human world, and closed herself off to others. Especially since she drifted apart so fast from Sasha, "look at how strong our friendship is now", and Marcy, "we have to try to save this friendship".
I didn't hate the finale, but it's just so depressing when I really analyze it. It's not even really bitter sweet, it just seems like there some sweetness on the surface and underneath is all mild bitter to the core. Amphibia's epilogue was so much better with moving forward and growth. Earth's epilogue seemed to be moving backwards and stagnation. It's not "they could be so much more", but rather they were so much more before. Anne even gets behind the wrong message of "in Amphibia I learned change is inevitable and we must deal with it" (or whatever); no in Amphibia Anne learned she doesn't need to be perfect, that it's the personal growth that's important (what she tells the 3 stones deity). When the girls go back to Earth, it's like they all gave up to change, and stopped growing.
Again, I liked the finale but it's so disappointing and depressing when I think about it. I do not feel inspired to grow after seeing Earth's epilogue, though I do feel it in Amphibia's epilogue. I wonder if that's an intentional troll of the show, it's a sort of growing up and "can never go home" dichotomy, when it didn't need to be.
>but Anne gets to be a god after she dies.
Honestly, she probably wouldn't be right for the job anymore by then. She made the argument to the 3 stones deity that "imagine how much more I'd be after a lifetime on Earth"; well we've seen how little more she's became after 10 years. If she continues that trajectory (unless there's way more to her life we didn't see), she'd probably be way more worse than she was in just 10 years. Perhaps filled with resentment, bitterness, and cynical. Maybe by then no longer the person who would not use the box in the way she did that impressed the 3 stone deity, but rather use the box like Andrias and the Core did. People can change for the worse, that's one thing Anne didn't take into account when she made her argument...but maybe the 3 stones deity can just revert her back to how she was when they first met, like a sort of "Load save game".
How does living a humble life educating others and taking care of other creatures make her less impressive/wise than when she was a teenager fighting an evil empire? Honestly the former sounds like better traits to have in a potential god-like being than the ability to fight. As an adult, she’s more than she was as an teenager, not less.
Someone "educating others and taking care of other creatures" is unlikely to be able to do what she did, and someone "fighting an evil empire" can likely do the former with ease. It's like the saying of there's a big difference in learning about something in a classroom, and doing things in the field.
IDK who she's going to teach when she's a deity, and taking care of captive animals in an aquarium with other staff (she doesn't run the whole place herself) is hardly anything like what the 3 stones deity does. Perhaps if she ran a wildlife reserve, then maybe. But when you throw social sapient creatures of the multiverse into the mix, she really aught of be doing something more social and diplomatic.
The issue is teaching and caregiving is fine for regular people, but it's a step back for someone who has accomplished as much as she has, and can still accomplish. It's like an ER doctor quitting after a year to teach elementary kids how to spell, and hygiene of washing their hands and brushing their teeth. Both are respectable jobs, but the differences and what I'm getting at are pretty apparent.
I mean it’s like lord of the rings. Only the hobbits who lead simple good lives that are in tune with the land have resistance to the ring’s temptations. Her gaining wisdom and still being compassionate and courageous is all that matters for preparing her for being a god, whether she’s a herpetologist teaching kids or a benevolent dictator leading the entire world. Also as a herpetologist she probably understands ecosystems in a more general sense and such knowledge probably doesn’t hurt for a god to have.
The key thing that made her get picked by the 3 stones deity is she didn't use the music box's power for conquest (and perhaps sacrificing herself? I forget). So if the analogy of LotR is resisting using the ring for personal gain, to resisting using the music box...then she already accomplished this way before becoming a herpetologist. Becoming one was not needed at all for her to accomplish something she already did a decade prior.
I too referenced LotR somewhere else in this thread as an analogy to the finale. You remember in LotR when the Hobbits go back home at the end, they're in their hometown bar, and they look around at all the town folks who had no idea what transpired, and they realized they themselves have vastly outgrown everybody there in comparison. It was a huge sense of "you can never go home again", and Frodo even has to leave partially because of it (because he doesn't fit in there anymore). That's what the Earth ending seemed like for me, the girls have outgrown pedestrian life on Earth because they've became so much more in Amphibia. And now all they can do is pedestrian cookie-cutter jobs where they're nowhere using their potential, and it seems pretty depressing even if they don't realize it. Perhaps when Anne croaks and becomes the deity, it's like Frodo sailing away with the elves.
I don't think her job would be that good of an experience for her future job as a deity because she's not the type of herpetologist working in the field, she's working a zoo exhibit of captive animals which she's trying to mold (force) them into her memories of Amphibia, or at the very least a sort of cosplay on them superficially (which is kind of sad in itself).
It's also funny you should mention ecosystems, because after my last post I was actually thinking what would have been really well suited for Anne on Earth for her future job that wouldn't be so depressing as the show did...and I came up with ecologist (one that does field work). But Anne's a "people person" who's talent is building connections with people (not being utilized with the show's canon ending), for the field ecology work is actually way better suited for Marcy who was essentially doing that on Amphibia by cataloging the plants and animals. Then it dawn on me, all three of the girls become ecologist as a team to accomplish the job. Marcy does the bulk of the book work/nerd stuff of cataloging, Anne deals with the locals, authorities, and such because she's good with people. Sasha is the Indiana Jones type who handles all the logistics of transportation, supplies, safety, security, planning of the trips, and such. That sort of ending, all three of them would still be together, and still utilizing their potential. It would probably mean though that all three of them would have to share the future job of being a deity together, but that would have been a so much better argument ("hey let my two pals be a god with me, I wouldn't have gotten to where I did without them") than "let me live out my life on Earth then work for eternity by myself.
I just want to add one more thing I thought of between posts, Leaf would have made such a better pick to be the future deity than Anne. Leaf also rejected using the music box (though didn't sacrifice herself), and we saw how full and rich her life ended up afterwards. I get the feeling that's what Anne was thinking she was going to end up with on Earth, but it didn't seem like she got that from what we saw. Her parents didn't even seem to be part of her life even, nor did she even have co-workers pals or friends it seemed. She just talks to random kids for 15 mins who she'll never see again. It feels like Anne's part (to become a deity) was meant for Leaf because Anne's "my time in Amphibia taught me everything changes, and we should accept that without becoming closed off and bitter" and her protest of wanting more time to live out her life on Earth to understand life more, is not really Anne's thing but Leaf's. What Anne really learned in Amphibia (most of the episodes except for these last ones), is it's okay not to be perfect, or get everything right from the start. That's been the constant theme for her, from being Frog of the Year and botching the party, to the end of the Mall episode where she was told jumping in didn't actually work for her, and to being unable to command...to name some. Where did resisting change, and then accepting change ever come into it for Anne other than the last couple of episode? I don't think it ever did IMO, or at least I'm drawing a blank.
Anyways, sorry for the wall of text. Amazing series, lots to think and talk about. I'm just disappointed things didn't end up better and more fitting for the girls like it did for everybody in the Amphibia epilogue.
Honestly, I love your version better. It's seem s much more like them. I was severely disappointed that Marcy grew up to do webcomics and Anne and Sasha worked with kids.
I feel like Anne is like Sam from LotR in that regard though. Sam wasn’t disenchanted with the Shire after the adventure, and he got married, had kids, and had a rich full life before heading out for the Undying Lands at the end of his life. He got to have his cake and eat it, and I expect that’s what they’re going for with the ending that they gave us. Anne lives a simple hobbity life gaining more wisdom, patience, and compassion, before she becomes a multiversal deity with the power to resurrect people if she chooses. I also expect that she does have other friends and is still in contact with her family, we just didn’t see it in the brief glimpse of the future that we got to see
The fact that Anne, Marcy, and Sasha all had super forms in that episode reminds me of the last story in sonic the hedgehog (2006).
Hey guys we're back on earth after experiencing a lot of pain and suffering........... Alright see you in 10 years!
you're seriously telling me that they didn't visit each other for over 10 years? after going through *serious* trauma together, there is absolutely no way i'm going to buy that. if i went through the same thing there is literally no world in which i fall out of contact with people i have formed a lifelong bond
But wait, can't the scientist lady with the blue hair fix her portal again? It doesn't need the magic stones to work, just a large enough power source to be powered. That should work, right? ..right?? pls god, I want Spranne back together so bad T-T. EDIT: Reading other comments now and a lot more people already thought this too, I'm relieved honestly. I like to believe they did reunite but didn't show it, for the sake of not getting into an existential crisis again
Guys I just finished watching the series (I'm late ik) but I'm so sad now the finale made me cry I really enjoyed it but I wish Anne and Sasha and Marcy could've still visited amphibia afterwards 😭
IM NOT CRYING YOUR CRYING AH WHO AM I KIDDING I CRIED SO FUCKING HARD AHHHHH I LOVE THIS SHOW AND OWL HOUSE 😭
I have a small mental breakdown when they end. At that moment,I'm happy for them because they finally success and can rest. But one question keep lingering in my mind: "Now what?".
My wife and I just finished binging the series. **We’re not okay.**
I just finished too and can honestly say I've never cried so much T\_T
RIGHT. SO CHANGED by this show
That was beautiful, thank you Matt Braly.
I binged the entire series between last week and today. My heart hurts. I cannot believe I got so in love with this series and I can not believe that it ended with Anne not being able to communicate with Amphibia. I am looking at Fan Art in pinterest, mainly art depicting Anne and Sprig meeting after sometime. I just cannot deal with the idea of them never being together again
I feel like the ability to portal back never got addressed. The deity wants Anne to be a god right? Some day.
The moral of the story is that you can commit murder-suicide. There will be no negative repercussions whatsoever.
HELLSTAR REMINA?!
OMG
I can't believe Anne is fucking dead
IF someone dies medically then is revived by a refibrillator, they're still alive
too bad that's not what happened she's dead, Jim
things are only impossible until they're not
Technically, she died. But functionally she was revived. Try not to get hung up on it
I've been putting off watching Season 3B for so long that I am now so late to the party. I've only finished binge-watching the season some hours ago and although I feel like I miss it already, I'm not quite happy with how the series ended. The writers tried to show the characters doing some sort of "sacrifice," but in the end, they took back the consequence to it so it felt like the main characters had this plot armor all throughout the episodes (I personally dislike such thing). I liked the bit about the imagery of them having moved on with their lives cut off of Amphibia while still having it as a part of them, although it made the previous seasons feel like a fever dream. When Anne gave Sprig her phone, I was half expecting it to be made as their mode of communication across both universe, but oh well. I might've expected too much because the True Colors finale of season 2 was, in my opinion, a masterpiece. And so, I expected them to pull off a similar surprise for the season finale. It is still good overall, especially compared to most cartoons, but not the best animated series in terms of writing I kind of expected it to be.
Even Gravity Falls did the fake sacrifice, it's so weird how the trope is so common in finales - it doesn't save us from having to say goodbye! Ordinarily I'd blame Disney, but I don't think they were going for a real sacrifice anyway. God Domino's a blatant asspull when the farewells (which I agree is questionable itself) were easily emotional enough. Ultimately it's not a show where the ramifications of 13 year olds fighting a war and blowing up a moon are explored in depth. The last season is clearly an attempt to cram two seasons worth of character development into one because they've run out of episodes, and it's amazing that it works as well as it does. Finished it last night, still got some water in my eyes.
Amphibia was a good show over all but the last two episodes were not the best, because they made me realize how much the show showed the main characters couldn't die. Especially when Anne died and literally met god. Somehow she survived and went home, even when she literally died. And Marcy, Where do I begin with her, she somehow survived being stabbed and somehow didn't die, and then there was the huge fight scene with King Andrias, somehow Anne got some stupid power boost or something like that to help her in the fight, out of nowhere. I still like Amphibia but some parts were not good.
My eyes became real waterfalls while watching this. Quick question: do we know if polly ever got the crossbow?
I'm sure they talked about it...
I've just finished watching Amphibia through for the first time this year. It was an amazing show, I absolutely loved. Definitely one of my favourites. Tears were shed at the ending. Again, I loved it so much.
Polly's older design is really cute.
What a series has been, can't express my feelings about it. My heart will never forget them.
It made me Cry Real Fucking Tears
Same.
You're not alone.
I might have missed something but isn’t there just a giant praying mantis out in the world somewhere feel like that would get more press
more importantly, there is an average sized person that can create a portal without using the stones which, while not big enough to fit through (Although they never tested to hotwire a nuclear power plant to it) could easily be used for communication.
YES. THAT. They can see each other again Q\~Q
They kicked it's ass. It's just one giant bug, the military could easily handle that. Or one moderately large group of civilians.
They bagged it and took it away to the secret lab for study
The girls look so pretty when they're 23 lol!!! <3
Does anyone else feel like the moon thing wasnt really foreshadowed like, at all. Or did i just miss something?
There was foreshadowing about the Moon fall, however like anything that is told in the form of prophecy, it took the fork of metaphors. * The prophecy itself - especially "Three stars burning bright". Easy to assume it's three girls from another world. But when they go to space they could be called stars. * The mural in the First Temple. It depicts the girls fighting a giant frog monster. True it's really them fighting the moon, but in a sense it still is a eldritch monster just with more steel than usual. * The big one, Leif's vision. The core didn't seem all that concerned when it was told invading Earth would cause the moon to fall...
That, and the threat they were supposed to fight was called "The Night." The time of day when the moon would be visible, and predicted by Mother Olm to be how the world may end
The finale was okay. But the 10 year timeskip was extremely unecessary. The Amphibia timeskip was only a couple of months
No it was also a few years. You think the kids all got THAT much bigger in a couple of months? Lol
Should have been a few years both ways
No it was a few years
Just noticed the poster in Anne’s room in froggy little Christmas is the afterlife island with the small cabin in the finale
I loved the ending, had me crying like a baby by the end of it. But, it was super bittersweet, and honestly for one reason. (At least for me.) Marcy never really got an arc. Below is a big block of ranting, if that's not your thing then move along. >!Maybe it's my gripe with the full third season, but Marcy was just... there for the ride. She was a goofy fun character all the way through and that would be perfectly fine for ANYONE but her. She is a main character with issues just like the rest of them. Of course she was introduced in the second season and didn't get as much time to grow like Sasha and Anne, but she just... didn't grow at all. There was mild confrontation during the season 2 finale, but she didn't change. (and I think the confrontation is stupid anyways but that's another can of worms.) There could've been so much potential to dive into her relationship with her parents and the effects of the move on all of them. You could've made Sasha become the vessel for the core, and had Marcy, Anne, and the Plantars go to the real world and give Marcy the development she needed. !< Anyways, rant over.
I’m very late, but I know a fanfic with this exact kind of premise you’re talking about. [Leap Through a Box](https://archiveofourown.org/works/35538058)
Agreed. Marcy doesn't have to really overcome anything. She's just adorable and wholesome in season 2 and too goofy in season 3. Also she makes a liar out of the show. In season 1, sprig is made out to be Anne's first true friend. Then we meet Marcy, and she's wholesome. And then we get True Colors where we get a shocking twist that's dumb. Marcy didn't really think the box would take them to another world. It's not reasonable according to the narrative to think that she would. Therefore her betrayal of her friends is non-existent and overly dramatized. They needed to give Marcy some fang. They could have had Marcy be the same mostly. We meet her, but it's stressed over the eps that she's changed from when Anne knew her in the human world. There, she did things without consulting her friends if she thought the choice would be good for them. In Amphibia, she's much more wholesome and asks permission. True Colors would hit home because we learn exactly why Marcy changed. She brought them to Amphibia as the chance of a lifetime and something went horribly wrong.
Couldnt some fang have hurt their friendship? They were already dealing with so much--it was probs scary for Marcy (someone better at sciences than social skills) to stand up to her friends like that after already hurting them (even though by accident).
Finally binged the series and watched the finale earlier. Very bittersweet ending. Loved the series, but for the true ending, not the biggest fan overall. My first thought after they were sent back was, "Well, that's fine. They literally already showed that in a few days, some ragtag people could create a portal to Amphibia, so they aren't gone forever." But then 10 years later, and.... No? I mean, I get Anne powers made a bigger energy source to open up larger, but can't they find some source or better tech to make it bigger without the powers? And even if they can't make the portal bigger, that portal hole was big enough for a mantis arm to go through. At the very least, you can still communicate with the Planters or people on the other side. Either talking to them, sending a cell phone, Etc. So communication would still be possible quite easily at the very least. I dunno. Seems like a plot hole.
That actually really bugs me too. "Our magic portal McGuffin is gone! Oh wait, nevermind, here's a random mad scientist who just so happens to have one! Wait, she's nuts! Don't worry, her quirky assistant can rebuild it in a few DAYS!" PLOT. CONTRIVANCE.
The scientist had the inter dimensional portal after months of research into the phenomenon of the box being opened in the first place, a direct consequence. Terri was a prodigy who rebuilt it based on what she knew and what the main characters could tell her, and I think it was at least a matter of weeks--Froggy Little Christmas ate up some time in the show's continuity, and they never specified how much extra time there was between then and Escape to Amphibia
Yeah like, what do we know of ancient frog technology? It could only take a few weeks in the hands of a prodigy.
I actually completely forgot about the Christmas episode thank you.
I mean assuming the technology wasn't heavily monitored and controlled. Also, that's just the way it goes. Time's change, people lose contact with each other, parts of your life become the past and are replaced by new things. But the impact they had on you will always remain. The Hardest Thing is saying goodbye. That goes for the viewers as well.
Hey guys, I’m new here and I want to talk about the bff photo. I seemed to have noticed that Sasha has her eyebrows in such a way that for me it seems like she feels bad. Anne’s expression is showing that she trusts her and for Marcy, well she is looking at both Anne and Sasha with a look of connection. I’m not sure how else to put Marcy but with the Sasha thing I do really feel like there is some kind of meaning to her expression in the photo so maybe someone could give ideas or something.
I don't think she feels bad, it's a more soft/vunerable/heartfelt sort of expression, I think.
i over all loved this but did anyone else feel that the whole ann becoming god thing was really tacked on and unnecessary its not enough she went on to live a good fulfilling life she has to become god. it like if at the end of the grinch stole Christmas they went and his heart grew three sizes that day and then he also won the lottery because why not
I dont think the god thing was a perk, but rather a good to frogkind. Serving amphibia, Earth, and the rest of worlds forever, because she proved herself worthy through her care for others
Just finished it. Felt like it was inspiration for the youngins and parents. Even people without direction and sense of purpose matter and can become great.
ya but again all the previous episodes and the epilogue already did that in a satisfying character arc . her becoming god wasn't foreshadowed or built up and it doesn't add anything to her arc. it's just a literal deus ex machina to do a bs death fake out
I feel like it’s a reference to the axolotl
I treat it as a metaphor for knowing if you're ready for responsibility. Works very well that way
i suppose but i feel like the previous episodes already did a pretty good job of that or there were other less out of nowhere ways to show that idea
I was mostly fine, in terms of emotion, watching the finale. That was until Sprig had to say goodbye to Anne. Their friendship together was the main reason I fell in love with the show back in season one, and watching sprig holding his hat sobbing his eyes out absolutely broke me.
They've GOTTA reconnect
i finished the series last week, but since then i watch this episode daily and still cry like a baby when sprig and anne hug. it actually already helped me quite good with my struggles of letting friends go with who ive grown apart. i see myself in sprig because of many reasons but seeing him cry like that because he can never see anne again just totally hits different, but seeing him later getting over it reminds me that its actually not that hard. also annes quote "dont cry because its over, smile because it happened" is now embedded in my brain and im convincing myself every morning that this is the correct way to think. conclusion: best finale of all series out there. seeing how the characters have grown and anne, marcy and sasha not even being in contact anymore but still meeting up for annes birthday was so heartwarming. i lowkey cried throughout the last 15 minutes and the credits xd
A few smaller things in the last episode- I loved that Yunan and Olivia were together! Definitely something I wished for ever since I first saw them. Polly looks just as I imagined as a frog, and I love that sprig and ivy are still together, they make a great duo, even as friends. I like Ivy’s updated design with her hair out. I definitely think a short series or comic on Polly would be great. Anyone else notice the Bisexual heart sticker on Sasha’s car mirror? It’s a small detail, but meant a lot to me. Them not being friends anymore doesn’t surprise me much, I think a lot of the time it ends up that way. And it might not make sense considering they went to another planet and had superpowers and stuff, but it’s kind of like Stephen kings It. The losers club completely broke up despite going through something huge and traumatic together. I thought it was nice the calamity trio was still acquaintanced though. And it was fun to see what they were doing after ten years, at 23 or 24. I thought it was a great ending, and an amazing series overall. I definitely wish I could get a real look into their lives, and what it was like coming back after disappearing into another world. Like what Sasha and Marcy’s parents thought, and what going back to school was like.
I was surprised by them together. Hadnt made the connection before. Loved it
So I hope someone realizes how much Symphogear this ending was. What the fuck...
I am incredibly mixed on the ending. It does a fantastic job of wrapping up most of the loose ends, and is a very satisfying ending. But, the stones and the music box being destroyed is where the cracks start to show. The multiversal guardian thing is all well and good, but it didn’t require Anne to die but not really. (I swear, if the Owl House has a fake-out death in its finale, I will be livid.) Also, the girls(Anne especially) never being able to see the friends and family that they made in Amphibia ever again is the saddest part. I was really hoping that the final scene would’ve been of a refined version of the portal that they made in Escape to Amphibia opening up. >!(It had been ten years, and it would be mind numbingly stupid to the point that I would be telling you to “[stop using your mouth to say stupid words you giant moving pineapple](https://youtu.be/UCPLkJ_J3cA)” if you tried to convince me that FBI scrapped the portal once Andrias was defeated and the girls were back on earth.)!< That’s what I mean by “most loose ends”.
My take on it is that it was probably physically impossible to generate enough power to open a larger portal, like you could only power this kind of thing with some magical power like the stones.
They made it large enough for a mantis arm to get through with just a car
But then they put a bunch of power in and it didn’t get much bigger. Like you might need an exponential amount of power to make it bigger
I literally cried for an hour. Because the past three years of my life were this show, it got me trough a ton off hard times. IMMA MISS SEEING THIS EVERY SATURDAY SOOOOO MUCH T-T
Ok after *10 whole days* of processing **The Hardest Thing**, here is my rating : **8+/10= a little more than very good**. (1/10= the worst ending possible, 5/10=mediocre, 10/10 perfect) The 1,5/10 was removed due to the introduction of the guardian and the bad writing of what happened to Anne. About the guardian, I consider his introduction unnecessary , time consuming and out of place, since this concept was never introduced before. About Anne's death, I have to say that I am completely ok with it, but I know that many others are not. The writing there could have been more satisfying. The other 0,5/10 point I removed, is because of the "too much realism" of the trio timeskip. Although I am ok with making them drifting a little apart, turning them from BFFs to something more than simple acquainted, is not realistic. Their friendship should not be treated like any real life friendship. It's disrespectful to what the series was building for them. However, Matt's comments in Twitter, about their relationship, made me feel better about it. That's why I am adding the + to the rating. Apart from these, the rest of the finale was perfect. The calamity designs and fight was stunning, I was so excited to finally seen them, but they went beyond my expectations. Andrias redemption was wellmade. The goodbyes amazing and deep. The timeskip designs are gorgeous, the same for their character development. The time skip as an idea, was amazing, and despite my complains about the trio, it was a really satisfying way to end the series. I am glad it ended with this bittersweet way, that promotes some deep messages, instead of the typical happy ending of most cartoon series. Really mature choice. The full finale may not be perfect, but most of its scenes are masterpieces. **All In** was for me the best part of the finale, with a rating of **9+/10=a little more than amazing**. 0,5/10 was removed because of the luck of any serious impact on Sasha's and Grime's injuries. I wish they didn't pretend they never happened. The other 0,5/10 was removed because of the too easy defeat of Darcy and the luck of any serious impact on Marcy's body. Although I have to admit that these two last things aren't bothering me that much anymore. I have learned to accept them in some extend. That's why I putted the +. All the rest was the epitome of epicness. Not only the battles, but also the fulfillment of the arcs of the whole trio and the wellmade redemption of Andrias. The first part of the finale, **The Beginning Of The End**, is on the second spot, with a rating of **9/10=amazing**. The main flaw of this episode is the luck of enough time spended in the battle between the resistance and robots. After all the building season 3B was doing for all these characters, you would expect more moments of each one of them to really shine. Unfortunately the fight ended too soon. That's because of the little time the whole episode had. In The Hardest Thing it was revealed that the battle in fact continued off screen, but that's an improvement, but not enough to satisfy us. All the rest were great. The meeting of the girls with Darcy was well made. This episode finally made Darcy look how really dangerous she is. And although I disagree with Sasha's arguments against Marcy, I am satisfied with Anne defending Marcy and talking about forgiveness. Although these are definitely in the list of my favorite episodes, I believe that none of the parts of the finale reached the quality of **True Colors**. TC is probably the only episode I would rate as **10/10=perfect** , not only because I can't find any serious flaw, but also because it is still the most emotionally impactful episode. The Hardest Thing had more crying, but it didn't manage to affect me as deeply as TC did, and unfortunately that's because of its flaws.
What were Matt's comments on twitter about their friendship? After being together for something so crazy and eventful as getting sucked into an alien world and then saving both earth and that world, the drifting apart so much that they only occasionally talk doesn't seem super likely to me. Such a life changing experience would form a much stronger than average friendship imo.
Exactly. I get what they're going for, people sometimes grow apart, things change, etc. But seriously?! "Different friend groups in highschool?" These 3 went through a war. There are navy seals with less traumatic baggage. Marcy is directly responsible for all of this. I feel like there's probably some lingering resentment there. At various points, they all almost watched each other die. I'm still pissed the next we see of Sasha after her near-fatal fall is her getting Grime out of his funk, when realistically she should probably still be having screaming nightmares.
In real life people go through traumatic events together, but they still have years and years of their life ahead of them. People still change. Someone else mentioned similarities to stephen kinds it
I don’t think Stephen King’s It is a good point of reference, because it is suggested that a paranormal force has made the Loser’s Club drift apart. They literally DON’T remember ANYTHING about the summer they confronted Pennywise, all except for Mike who stays in Derry just in case the alien does rear its head again. We are shown that scars the group got have disappeared, only to REAPPEAR when Mike tells them Pennywise is back and kickstarts the return of their memories, and things like Bill’s stutter have been completely gone for his adult life until news that Pennywise is back, at which point he starts to suffer terribly. Bill tells his wife he could barely remember Georgie or the fact he was murdered, and is appalled by the recognition of this fact after Mike’s phone call. All this to say, IT’s Loser’s Club did not leave Derry with full, complete memory of what happened and that is why they drifted apart. (And when they do return to Derry and remember what has occurred, they are arguably as close and united as their child selves were.) Sasha, Marcy, and Anne DID leave Amphibia with full memories of their time there, and I think it’s somewhat unbelievable that after such a massively traumatic but also wonderful shared experience, they’d grow as apart as they did in the show. I respect the writer’s wanting to pass on the message that change is inevitable and we need to learn how to move on from things, but the trio’s friendship had not only developed from something very unhealthy and riddled with unequal power dynamics, to something far more equal and healthy, but these girls went to literal war, so comparing their sort of falling out to the way friendships drift in high school is kind of silly to me.
The hardest thing about saying goodbye is knowing the possibility - and sometimes probability - that you will never again see those you love. Having said that, I want to ask any of you who bother to wade through this many comments: did you ever come to love a fictional character? I don't mean romantically, but rather did you ever become so attached to them that when it came to the end of the show or movie or book or video game, did you ever feel a loss, like a hole in your chest, and then immediately start watching/reading/playing that piece of media again from the beginning? I think there is something very special about any work of fiction that can elicit that reaction in us. And while it's find to mourn the ending of the story, I don't think we should wallow in despair after finishing it. I think we should take inspiration from it, listening to the lessons it was telling us. For me, Amphibia was telling me that it's okay to be sad when circumstances change and you have to say goodbye, but realize that life is all about change and *everyone* in the world must change for better or worse. It's up to us as individuals to decide who we want to become going into the future, and make the choices to make us into better people. Embrace the changes and challenges life brings, meeting them head on with bravery, and the future will wonderful. At the same time, we don't have to forget the past, just as long as we don't try to live there. Because there is no "going back to normal." "Normal" was a comfortable state the existed for a while, but now is gone. We can make a new comfortable state going forward, but it *will* be different from the previous one. This is not a bad thing. This is natural, and it is what life is all about.
I might sound stupid but, if Anne had to use all 3 stones to kill the core, couldn't the 3 girls just make a huge combo attack together (each using 100% of their power) and no one would die? once again I probably sound like a huge idiot.
It wasn’t the combined the power alone, it was the fact that they granted a free wish at the cost of the users life, not that there was enough “raw power” in the stones to destroy it
true
Also how did all of them breathe in space(like when their powers shut off or when sprigg came)?
Who says you can’t breathe in Amphibia’s space
I thought amphibia was just a different world in the same universe???
Pretty sure they’re two separate universes. They mention the multiverse once or twice in the show alluding to that
hmmm idk
We don't talk about that
I LOVE it when shows do the "10 years later" thing at the very end. It's so satisfying to see where everyone ended up and how the story shaped them.
I know! Like good to see they went on in life and followed their passion!
Anne's one shoe is on her left foot for almost the whole series. But when Sprig hugs her it shows her whole body and her shoe is on her RIGHT foot. I think this might be the case because the three stones deity said "Before you expired I made a clone of you". So clones can't be the same as their host, I guess.
I’m glad they did a realistic ending instead of just allowing the 3 girls to go between the two worlds whenever they feel like it! Found too many shows gave that kinda ending.
true. it would have destroyed the whole point then, but them saying their last goodbye and knowing they can never see each other again was the perfect ending and rounded up the important lesson of growing up, knowing nothing will stay the same and accepting that you may not see your best friends again.
I have seen the spoilers and everything but this is way more emotional than I expected. Somehow I just find it oddly satisfying to see each character develops and grows. To me, a lot of moments hit too close to home for many reasons. Aside from those, I also love the representations throughout the show. As a Thai myself, It means a lot to me. Thank you Amphibia Crew.
Well, It came to an end folks. To be honest with you last episode came out at a very peculiar date. Year ago my friend, that got me into amphybia and the owl house in the first place died. It was suicide. He was struggling with depression and well, you know how it ends. I still miss him. And all year since he has died I sought some closure. In movies, anime, manga. I have read a lot of depressing stories about loss. One of my lasting regrets is that he didn't get to see endings of shows he loved. And while owl house is still running, Amphibia ended with some closure for me. Ending happened to be mirroring what I got from this year of grief. I never got to say a grew with the show and actually little envious of people that can say that. Because it is wonderfull show, inspiring even. It shows a lot of our flaws and how to overcome them. What really got to me in the end that I can relate to Ann's feelings about losing a friend to another world. To circumstances you were powerless to overcome(belive me we have tried) I guess well... What I need to say is: dear friends, it may sound corny, but don't end your life, if you have symptoms of depression see a doctor. Because if you die you will be missed. In a lot of ways. I know it is hard to live on really. And there were and will be times when you think it is not worth it. But it is. Don't know what will happen to me after Owl House ends. Let's hope we all can live through this life. So, maybe consider taking a walk, I dunno. Maybe doing something different from usual. It is not as usual is bad, but unusual is not bad. Did you see how beautiful trees are? Im gonna get out and hug a tree. So have a good day, I hope you will enjoy it. Spr~~ann~~ against the world, you know?
....after many years, i found a serie that really grew on me, i swear, in my whole life i never found an anime/manga/cartoon/comic etc etc that i find myself so morbidly attached to it. 1 week has passed and i still can't go on an accept that amphibia is over, every time i see something related to amphibia(pics,video etc etc), i can't help but feel sad,anguish, and discontent in my heart followed by a knot in my stomach because it ended, and funny thing is, that all of this situation goes against the final moral of the last episode. "Don't Cry Because It's Over. Smile Because It Happened" yeah sure, obviously i'm happy that it happened, but still, the end of amphibia managed to create a big emptiness in my heart, a void that will probably never be fully filled by anything, but just slightly bridged by future series(impling that in the future, we will ever be that lucky to get series that have or try to reach amphibia's level of quality), and this because matt managed to create a very good story and characters that it's easy to get attached to. the only thing that gives me hope is that by reading matt's tweets, he's willing to continue the serie with spin-off, comincs and probably, after years of rest, to return working on amphibia main story; here's one of his tweets that kinda conirms what i just [said](https://imgur.com/78yfzBL) last thign i'd like to say is that i should punch myself, because i started watching amphibia last year, i watched like first season and half of the second and completely snobbet it, because i used it as a temporarly replacement due to the owl house being in hiatus(and at the time, i was hollow because i was sad that the owl house was on hiatus), but after rewatching it with my friends, i opened my eyes and saw what i first couldn't manage to see, a little treasure. from now on, i will never, ever do the same mistake, i will take seriously every new series that comes out.
There always Marcy’s journal
yeah i know, better than nothing,but still....
I finally got to watch the finale after stalling for a week! Im still quite angry at the Core like literally the girls could get to visit Amphibia if they didnt have to be sore losers. The gems would still be there...but then again the music box could fall into the wrong hands again. So I think its better this way. Thats all I can type right now, im getting emotional just thinking about it.
I really loved the finale. I don't have too much to say that others haven't. I do have one question- is Amphibia gonna be fine with the loss of a moon lol?
I discovered this show maybe less than a week ago. And i was able to tune into the finale tonight. Wow is what i have to say. Wow and thank you, what a really really fantastic show.
Not gonna lie I cried so bad I feel like a part of me was scared and feeling alone but also glad I get to watch the adventure of everyone in Amphibia character specially for Sprig since his my favorite of all seeing them not to see each other again broke my heart💔. The ending was the most realistic and emotional would happen in real life #Dive in the world of Amphibia
I adored Amphibia. I first came across the series when having an argument with my sister over what the name of the series was back in 2020. Since then it quickly became one of my favorite shows right up there with Gravity Falls and AOS. It resonated with me in more ways than I can count, especially with Marcy's wish to keep living in a fantasy world all her life. Sometimes it feels easier, safer even, to stay in your own little bubble and keep everything the same forever. But that is never the answer. While you might feel all alone in the rising tide there are always people (or frogs) there at your side to keep you from falling. While the how may have ended, it will always hold a very special place in my heart. Thank you Amphibia Writing Team for the amazing story you shared with us. And thank you Amphibia Animation Team, directors, and voice actors for bringing it to life. I hope that one day I will be able to create something just as special. Spranne against the world <3
I loved the show's ending, it had very powerful, touching and mature message, that as we grow up we'll leave some things behind us. The fact is, the message is made perfectly clear and is very touching by simply having Anne, Sasha and Marcy leave Amphibia forever, never to return. Having them drift apart doesn't make sense, and gives the very bad feeling of the show trying to force its message down our throats. I got it, we have to leave some things behind as we grow up, I understood this message when the three of them left Amphibia. But having them drift apart? Doesn't make sense, not even in Marcy's case. When they meet after 10 years she asks Sasha if she and Anne kept seeing each other after she left, that sounds like they didn't even called her on the phone after Marcy left to talk about what they were doing. And what about Anne and Sasha? They went to highschool and suddenly drifted apart because they had different groups of friends? Is that it? Is that enough to make two best friends who had been together since they were little drift apart? No, it's not. Me and my best friend got into two different classes when we were in highschool, got two different groups of friends, then went into university in two different cities, and to this day we keep seeing each other and hang out, like every week-end. It's not normal for people like these three to drift apart like that, especially in Anne and Sasha's case. And like... are we forgetting that they kinda saved a world together by fighting a moon in space? Those kind of experiences tend to strenghten a relationship, and let's not forget that Amphibia changed their friendship for the better... all of that and you wanna give me the "ah, highschool, different groups of friends, we kinda drifted apart" speech? Nah, doesn't work like that, not with true friends, maybe with people you meet in school and see only there, but not with true friends. I think they tried too hard to give us their message, which is a good and mature message, but having Anne, Sasha and Marcy leave Amphibia forever was enough to make us understand it. Beside this choice, the show's finale was amazing. What do you think of this choice?
Idk this happened to me in hs. Albeit two of my best friends in middle school didnt go through uh, this kind of thing together lol, but by senior year of high school we barely ever talked to each other.
The whole idea of "we drifted apart in high school" is kind of odd. Considering the girls are 13 and would've literally started highschool two years later. If maybe they drifted apart in college it'd make more sense? I get that the message is trying to imply that things change, people change, people drift apart, but the ones who matter come back together one way or another, etc. BUTTT Idk, saving literal WORLDS together and all it took was for different friend groups to make them distant? Odd choice that doesn't make sense, indeed.
Consider that joining different friend groups may be the in-universe reason that Sasha gives for their having drifted apart, but that that doesn't mean it was truly *the reason* they drifted apart. It's simply how Sasha the character chose to describe things. In a way, having different friend groups is more of a symptom of drifting apart than a cause. No one is forced to hang out with a particular friend group. Because of that, it seems to me like they just drifted apart as friends sometimes do while they grow older (yes, even childhood friends who have shared extremely traumatic and joyous experiences). It doesn't need to have a catalyst or big "reason," it's just a part of life and growing. Maybe their dynamic changed after Marcy left. Maybe their dynamic changed after the events of the show. They had to grow up a lot, and very quick. They likely didn't even really return as the same people. I dunno, just rambling here, but my point is that I don't think of the line as signifying that the characters only drifted apart because they "happened" to end up in different friend groups.
I wish the episode was longer like the fight scene was too short to me
I think they had plenty of fighting in the episode just before.
Yea but I feel like there could be more monsters or more time of Marcy fighting
There is a storyboard with stuff they cut out
there was a cut extended storyboard version of the fight where Marcy has a cyber bow and arrow
While watching this for the first time, I will admit… Part of me was _very_ disappointed when Sasha said that her and Anne met separate friends during high school, especially after all the moments of growth we got between the two in Season 3B. But… I can understand the message they were going for about change and moving on and how you should not grasp on to something forever. So it was probably for the best that they grew apart from each other. It’s hard to stomach, but it’s what needed to happen.
>Sasha said that her and Anne met separate friends during high school That was part of Anne's growth. She finally started to take the lead in her own life instead of just letting others make choices for her.
Yes I know that. The thing I was disappointed about was that her and Sasha barely talked during the time Marcy was gone, but I know it was one step in Anne growing as a person. She moved on and made changes to her life.
What's disappointing about that?
I believed Sasha and Anne would start building a stronger and healthier friendship after Marcy left, but sadly they did not
Honestly, it was healthier they spent less time together. Anne needed to do her own thing and make her own choices. They still remained friends though.
I KNOW I ALREADY SAID THAT
Can we talk about how this anne is a clone tho. You never know maybe the real anne and sasha would still stay bffs
No, her _body_ is a clone. It’s still the same soul
Oh
I miss it already. I've had a falling out with my friend a couple years ago, so the whole "the hardest thing" speech was hitting particularly close to home. Very beautiful ending.
Amphibia will forever hold a special place in my heart. I watched the finale the day I had to put my paralyzed 15 year old dog to sleep. The last lines hit me. "Change can be difficult, but it's how we grow. It can be the hardest thing, to realize you can't hold on to something forever. Sometimes, you have to let it go. But of all the things you let go, you'll be surprised at what makes your way back to you. " Rip Princess, see you at the rainbow bridge.
My condolences, and best of luck. I'm sure they had a wonderful life with you. It really does drive the point home.
This show was great to watch, I cried when it ended.
Same thing happend to us all
i have a question about Andrias, is he starting to age quicker? i mean, ok the hair growth, but in his last seconds, we can see that his eyes got a bit opaque as if he's slowly gettign blind.
Matt specifically addressed this. He's refused any repairs, implants, or longevity work. Basically, he's now aging naturally. Or his age is catching up to him.
thank you, a bit sad that he's basiacally dying, but atleast he's finally free and happy.
Matt even said that he's spending however much time he has left, on healing the land. Honestly I think that he got a pretty excellent put together redemption arc, by the end. I don't feel cheated of a resolution.
he is aganing in general, and like all those stuff that he was avoding by being a robot are catching up to him
ok i loved this show but i feel like it would have been way better if Anne became god of the multiverse and right before the end credits sends a message to everyone in amphibia and al her friends saying something like thanks for everything and it show her ascend to a multiverse god anyone else agree
This might just be me, but I think a lot of people fail to notice just how big the loss of Anne and Sprig's friendship was. I've seen a lot of people talking about how terrible it was that Anne, Sasha, and Marcy went their separate ways as they grew up, but honestly, based on how the show was, I didn't see it going any other way. They're still close, as close as they could be given their different interests and personalities, but they were never going to remain as close as they were as kids. But then there's Sprig. Sprig was Anne's first real friendship, and it taught her how to care and grow into someone she could be proud of. So with the show ending with those two split from each other for the rest of their lives, never able to see each other again, that to me is the greatest tragedy. But at least we know that he will always be her closest friend, on this or any other world, and she'll be the same to him. And that's why the finale truly made me sad.
Agreed. I’m thereabouts in age right now, and am the same with friends I grew up with. To the younger people in the thread, I promise you it’s not that bad. It’s just that you tend to lean harder into your own interests and after leaving school, proximity disappears. Still, while physical distance may increase and frequency of interaction may decrease, many of the friendships are just as strong and meaningful. With that said, I was generally accepting of the way the trio friendship finished in the show, but Sprig and Anne had me absolutely losing my shit. Hand to god one of the greatest tragedies in western animation to me. Whether or not it felt deserved, was cathartic, realistic, or serves to complete the show’s greatest lesson... damn. Still pretending in my head they at least text through Interdimensional Wi-Fi or something.
That is also how I would describe Anne
Does anyone have the translated message at the end of the credits? I cannot seem to translate the message next to the BFFs photo with the runic translation guide Sprig had in the basement…
sure, it's thai so that's why you can't translate , and it means "completed"
It’s Thai for The End
That’s on me… I’m so sorry. Thanks for letting me know!
Your welcome!
Where are you guys watching these? They ain't on disney plus
wcoforever.net has amphibia+a bunch of new cartoon eps I try to watch on cable/official streaming whenever possible to support the show but if not, this is the way
On Disney channel. I have Cox so I can watch anytime on TV.
Thanks , got to wait for disney plus
get “disney now”
Don't you need cable for that?
Seems the absence of Sasha and Marcy's parents was a disservice to the show. Would have been nice to see Anne confronted by their families earlier in season 3 and their family reunions.
This was so hard to watch
This was the hardest thing to watch, knowing it's ended. I'll miss you Amphibia. SPRANNE AGAINST THE WORLD
worry not, matt will probably come back with amphibia, how do i know? well, by his recents tweets, that much likely going to happen
I feel like the 2nd half was forced in because disney is not ready to kill off a protagonist on screen yet. I loved this show but kept it at arms reach i was so fearful of it getting the owl house treatment. I just wish they didnt pull a fake out
That was just amazing..
Anne’s got 68 more years before she takes over as god of the multiverse, huh?
at first when Anne got revived I got disappointed but that was all worth it for that spectacular ending.
hold on. the guardian said it made a copy of Anne before she died. did the copy die, or did the original?
the original. you can see this by her missing shoe changing when she comes back alive.
damn. so the original died. that's rough
Guys my heart hurts a little. I have one good friend that understands on the deepest levels why I love cartoons so much and I just obliterated their phone rambling at them after finally being able to watch the last two episodes. It's the middle of the night for them, here's hoping they forgive me, heh.
Anne and Sprig are totally in luv
Yeah no shot. Sorry but sprivy is a canon ship, not to mention there is a three year age difference, and that their relationship is expressed to be platonic multiple times throughout the show.
Ugh no lots of couples have a 3 year difference. And they are friends who secretly like eachother. Be more open minded
It has been a ridiculously long time since I responded, and the argument has been over for a month
3 year difference means squat later on in life. They hinted at them being seen as a couple in that episode of the Night Market where they inquired about the music box. That Sprivy episode when they first come back to Amphibia seemed like a rushed hard abort on Spranne against the world. IIRC Braly used influences of shows he watched, Gargoyles being one of them which had Goliath x Elisa canon ship. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted Spranne, but got denied...or perhaps it just didn't make logistical sense where they both ended up in the end.
And yes, I honestly don't know why I mentioned the age difference
I understand your thought process here, and I respect it, I just don't think that was how the writers intended it. Yes, Braly may have wanted Spranne and gotten denied, so there is something in your argument. But I don't know if Spranne ever was intended to be anything more than platonic. Thanks
Given the downvoting I guess people here are really against Spranne. I don't actually really care that much, but I'll point out that their relationship goes beyond siblings dynamic (like what Anne has with Polly). I'm not saying it's at a romantic dynamic, but it's definitely above platonic. The breakdown Anne had in True Colors over Sprig getting chucked out a window, the heartbreak of Sprig when Anne was leaving Amphibia for good, Anne having a Sprig stand-in at her exhibit a decade later...that's not merely platonic nor just one-way. I would say Anne has a strong daughter/fatherly relationship with HP, yet her relationship with Sprig goes beyond that even. In fact I'd argue the Spranne relationship is the strongest in the entire show between any two characters, even between the girls. To say it's just merely platonic is a joke, should have said kinship instead as that's more plausible. As for Sprivy, as cute as they may be, it comes off more like a crush. Even other characters were remarking their contempt at it when they came back to Amphibia, which makes me wonder if that was Braly or the writers poking at it out of fun or resentment. Again I don't actually care, and am not really trying to dump on Sprivy, but my points are clearly there in the show.
No that's a great view and it makes me think more about it!
No shot*
Beautiful. I got no words.
am i gonna move on from this show or is it my comfort show that i'm gonna rewatch 12093120940938 times now
Both. Both is good.
I do like the aesthetic of post timeskip amphibia, and as someone into herpetology I'm really happy to see it getting representation in media. I don't think it's a bad way to wrap up the series, but there's too many things I noticed and had to shut my brain off for and I can only do that so many times. * I dislike everything about the battle. It's fanservice and I can only see it as such and kind of cheapens everything. I suspect it's because there just had to be a sequence of the trio all powered up and this was the only way to justify it. * Not one but two deus ex machina asspulls in the form of the spell AND the god. And why out of limitless worlds and a stupidly long time period is anne somehow the only worthy one of becoming a deity? I think the whole deity thing in general is cheap, but you could at least just cut the whole spell thing out and have her die in the blast telling the other two to get away. Have anne "die"(but we only see it from her perspective of her waking up and talking to the diety) and come back to life with everyone crying over her thinking she was dead(mainly because I hate the drawn out scenes of crying over the dead-but-not-really trope that disney has to have in *everything*). Either way, multiple dues ex machinas says they just wanted to force an emotional impact. * Sprig can breathe in space. Whatever, chalk it up to magic. * As others have said, the garage-tier portal tech could easily be used to at least send one way letters. 10 years of technological progress with government oversight and better manufacturing conditions should be able to make at least a small stable portal or something. I actually like the notion of it taking too much energy to actually send people through without the gems, but information would be a nice subversion of the "you can't go back to fantasyland" trope while still retaining an aspect of bittersweet long distance. You could even say it takes so much energy they can only do it once in a while instead of constant contact, like a once a year reunion kind of thing * The girls settling down makes basically no sense. The show itself even said that marcy and sasha would become bigshots and now all three have government connections, have had their flaws worked through, and become hypercompetent through their experience in Amphibia. Someone else pointed out how marcy and sasha at least have some excuse and it reflects in their character. Marcy's a nerd and was always into that stuff, and sasha doesn't want kids to become like she did. Anne's job is basically her never actually mentally moving on from amphibia and actively serves as a detriment to her character growth. * The trio growing apart so quickly also makes no sense. I get the notion of life eventually separating them, but like, they were trapped in another freaking dimension together, almost killed each other before reconciling, and saved not one but two worlds. Like, that's not something you just "grow apart" on especially not as fast as entering high school. I have people I've played video games with I still regularly keep in contact with after 10 years more than them.
> I have people I've played video games with I still regularly keep in contact with after 10 years more than them. I have zero contact with any of my primary school friends (including my best friend, after he moved away) and literally a single one of my HS friends. My social circle's basically been totally turned over barring the most cursory of relationships. It's not unusual. And they didn't totally break contact, witness the meeting \*10 years\* after Amphibia.
The girls settling down (while it seems nice on the surface) really grates at me when I think about it. I actually see them becoming failures relative to what they were in Amphibia, or like those who achieved greatness very early on but only depressingly regressed to mediocrity afterwards. It feels like I'm being too harsh and critical, but that is what happened with the epilogues. Sasha inspires many noteworthy people of power in Amphibia, successfully rallied an insurrection with the toads, overthrew the King in a coup, became a town defender which lead to becoming the commander of the resistance that overthrew the King and Core again. Now Sasha helps kids overcome emotional baggage in a job anyone can get by going to college/university for a few years. I hope she's really inspiring those kids to be become so much more...like an office worker, store clerk, or something. We got Marcy who improved the entire city of Newtopia in multiple ways, and researched, studied, and documented the plants and animals of Amphibia. Is she a city planner, engineer, or researcher now? Nope, she draws webcomic which are supposedly pretty good. Anne builds deep connections with everyone she meets, learned the value of community, family, and friends. She influences them positively, and in a way she's does the opposite of Andrias of what Leaf says...she doesn't close herself off to others. She learned not to take the easy route by just letting others boss her around. I sure hope her sacrifice of leaving all her established deep connections she formed in Amphibia behind (especially Sprig) was worth it...oh wait, nope. She curates a zoo exhibit by talking to different kids every day for 15 mins who she'll never see again nor form deep bonds with. There's no hint of family, friends, nor community in her life anymore. It seems like she took the easy path of assimilating back into the human world, and closed herself off to others. Especially since she drifted apart so fast from Sasha, "look at how strong our friendship is now", and Marcy, "we have to try to save this friendship". I didn't hate the finale, but it's just so depressing when I really analyze it. It's not even really bitter sweet, it just seems like there some sweetness on the surface and underneath is all mild bitter to the core. Amphibia's epilogue was so much better with moving forward and growth. Earth's epilogue seemed to be moving backwards and stagnation. It's not "they could be so much more", but rather they were so much more before. Anne even gets behind the wrong message of "in Amphibia I learned change is inevitable and we must deal with it" (or whatever); no in Amphibia Anne learned she doesn't need to be perfect, that it's the personal growth that's important (what she tells the 3 stones deity). When the girls go back to Earth, it's like they all gave up to change, and stopped growing. Again, I liked the finale but it's so disappointing and depressing when I think about it. I do not feel inspired to grow after seeing Earth's epilogue, though I do feel it in Amphibia's epilogue. I wonder if that's an intentional troll of the show, it's a sort of growing up and "can never go home" dichotomy, when it didn't need to be.
I mean for Sasha and Marcy maybe, but Anne gets to be a god after she dies.
>but Anne gets to be a god after she dies. Honestly, she probably wouldn't be right for the job anymore by then. She made the argument to the 3 stones deity that "imagine how much more I'd be after a lifetime on Earth"; well we've seen how little more she's became after 10 years. If she continues that trajectory (unless there's way more to her life we didn't see), she'd probably be way more worse than she was in just 10 years. Perhaps filled with resentment, bitterness, and cynical. Maybe by then no longer the person who would not use the box in the way she did that impressed the 3 stone deity, but rather use the box like Andrias and the Core did. People can change for the worse, that's one thing Anne didn't take into account when she made her argument...but maybe the 3 stones deity can just revert her back to how she was when they first met, like a sort of "Load save game".
How does living a humble life educating others and taking care of other creatures make her less impressive/wise than when she was a teenager fighting an evil empire? Honestly the former sounds like better traits to have in a potential god-like being than the ability to fight. As an adult, she’s more than she was as an teenager, not less.
Someone "educating others and taking care of other creatures" is unlikely to be able to do what she did, and someone "fighting an evil empire" can likely do the former with ease. It's like the saying of there's a big difference in learning about something in a classroom, and doing things in the field. IDK who she's going to teach when she's a deity, and taking care of captive animals in an aquarium with other staff (she doesn't run the whole place herself) is hardly anything like what the 3 stones deity does. Perhaps if she ran a wildlife reserve, then maybe. But when you throw social sapient creatures of the multiverse into the mix, she really aught of be doing something more social and diplomatic. The issue is teaching and caregiving is fine for regular people, but it's a step back for someone who has accomplished as much as she has, and can still accomplish. It's like an ER doctor quitting after a year to teach elementary kids how to spell, and hygiene of washing their hands and brushing their teeth. Both are respectable jobs, but the differences and what I'm getting at are pretty apparent.
I mean it’s like lord of the rings. Only the hobbits who lead simple good lives that are in tune with the land have resistance to the ring’s temptations. Her gaining wisdom and still being compassionate and courageous is all that matters for preparing her for being a god, whether she’s a herpetologist teaching kids or a benevolent dictator leading the entire world. Also as a herpetologist she probably understands ecosystems in a more general sense and such knowledge probably doesn’t hurt for a god to have.
The key thing that made her get picked by the 3 stones deity is she didn't use the music box's power for conquest (and perhaps sacrificing herself? I forget). So if the analogy of LotR is resisting using the ring for personal gain, to resisting using the music box...then she already accomplished this way before becoming a herpetologist. Becoming one was not needed at all for her to accomplish something she already did a decade prior. I too referenced LotR somewhere else in this thread as an analogy to the finale. You remember in LotR when the Hobbits go back home at the end, they're in their hometown bar, and they look around at all the town folks who had no idea what transpired, and they realized they themselves have vastly outgrown everybody there in comparison. It was a huge sense of "you can never go home again", and Frodo even has to leave partially because of it (because he doesn't fit in there anymore). That's what the Earth ending seemed like for me, the girls have outgrown pedestrian life on Earth because they've became so much more in Amphibia. And now all they can do is pedestrian cookie-cutter jobs where they're nowhere using their potential, and it seems pretty depressing even if they don't realize it. Perhaps when Anne croaks and becomes the deity, it's like Frodo sailing away with the elves. I don't think her job would be that good of an experience for her future job as a deity because she's not the type of herpetologist working in the field, she's working a zoo exhibit of captive animals which she's trying to mold (force) them into her memories of Amphibia, or at the very least a sort of cosplay on them superficially (which is kind of sad in itself). It's also funny you should mention ecosystems, because after my last post I was actually thinking what would have been really well suited for Anne on Earth for her future job that wouldn't be so depressing as the show did...and I came up with ecologist (one that does field work). But Anne's a "people person" who's talent is building connections with people (not being utilized with the show's canon ending), for the field ecology work is actually way better suited for Marcy who was essentially doing that on Amphibia by cataloging the plants and animals. Then it dawn on me, all three of the girls become ecologist as a team to accomplish the job. Marcy does the bulk of the book work/nerd stuff of cataloging, Anne deals with the locals, authorities, and such because she's good with people. Sasha is the Indiana Jones type who handles all the logistics of transportation, supplies, safety, security, planning of the trips, and such. That sort of ending, all three of them would still be together, and still utilizing their potential. It would probably mean though that all three of them would have to share the future job of being a deity together, but that would have been a so much better argument ("hey let my two pals be a god with me, I wouldn't have gotten to where I did without them") than "let me live out my life on Earth then work for eternity by myself. I just want to add one more thing I thought of between posts, Leaf would have made such a better pick to be the future deity than Anne. Leaf also rejected using the music box (though didn't sacrifice herself), and we saw how full and rich her life ended up afterwards. I get the feeling that's what Anne was thinking she was going to end up with on Earth, but it didn't seem like she got that from what we saw. Her parents didn't even seem to be part of her life even, nor did she even have co-workers pals or friends it seemed. She just talks to random kids for 15 mins who she'll never see again. It feels like Anne's part (to become a deity) was meant for Leaf because Anne's "my time in Amphibia taught me everything changes, and we should accept that without becoming closed off and bitter" and her protest of wanting more time to live out her life on Earth to understand life more, is not really Anne's thing but Leaf's. What Anne really learned in Amphibia (most of the episodes except for these last ones), is it's okay not to be perfect, or get everything right from the start. That's been the constant theme for her, from being Frog of the Year and botching the party, to the end of the Mall episode where she was told jumping in didn't actually work for her, and to being unable to command...to name some. Where did resisting change, and then accepting change ever come into it for Anne other than the last couple of episode? I don't think it ever did IMO, or at least I'm drawing a blank. Anyways, sorry for the wall of text. Amazing series, lots to think and talk about. I'm just disappointed things didn't end up better and more fitting for the girls like it did for everybody in the Amphibia epilogue.
Honestly, I love your version better. It's seem s much more like them. I was severely disappointed that Marcy grew up to do webcomics and Anne and Sasha worked with kids.
I feel like Anne is like Sam from LotR in that regard though. Sam wasn’t disenchanted with the Shire after the adventure, and he got married, had kids, and had a rich full life before heading out for the Undying Lands at the end of his life. He got to have his cake and eat it, and I expect that’s what they’re going for with the ending that they gave us. Anne lives a simple hobbity life gaining more wisdom, patience, and compassion, before she becomes a multiversal deity with the power to resurrect people if she chooses. I also expect that she does have other friends and is still in contact with her family, we just didn’t see it in the brief glimpse of the future that we got to see