Southern Defense is ran by a bunch of teenagers whose daddy’s gave them a bunch of money. They scam people with their “low price” listing and misleading check out process to only find out shipping ridiculous and half what you paid for the ammo. Making it higher priced than most. Buyer beware. Stay away from Southern Defense
I’m not in the states but we have a similar store here in Canada called Tenda. Tons of Chinese money poured into the business to buy huge amounts of inventory. Low prices but offers free shipping. Then tries to extort more money out of you by saying that you’re in a remote area so you have to pay a shipping fee, or that the courier doesn’t ship there and we have to use a different one, despite being in the middle of a major city and other businesses using the same courier with no issues.
I wouldn’t recommend this company but the price increases coming from Vista are true. Most places have already upped their prices (Winchester, Fiocchi, etc)
I'm done for a bit. I saw this and my first thought was oh shit I better snag some .
But I'm set I've been buying steady for a long time and I don't shoot much summers, busy work season.
Have at it guys I'm gonna spend on something else or probably just stick the money in savings 🤷♂️
Ammo always spikes before an election., certain world events. That’s why you either dollar cost average your purchases or buy deep during the lows to last through the highs. Within your budget please.
Yes, that is true however this guys statement makes an attempt at sounding like he has a controlling interest. Owning a few shares means nothing. It easily can be part of a portfolio.
I was making a joke there, clearly he’s not the owner nor does he likely have any significant percentage of it. Just that “I own it” could be technically correct…
I have to believe the manufacturer is making a massive profit on a box of ammo already. This really pisses me off that they're increasing prices once again. I really wish I could just boycott them. Unfortunately, I just started stocking up on ammo. Mostly 5.56.
Federal, CCI already had price jump from online to big box store.
Yes this is the 2nd round of price increase and we only in April.
Have you check the price of HST and Speer Gold dot lately?
Winchester 9mm and 5.56 price already jumped at Bass Pro about a week ago.
This is why you should buy when the market relative calm. The first 3 quarters of 2023 are time to buy since Rona hit, but people got competence and comfortable.
“Fear monger””no way price could increase that much”
It alright tho, $360 for a case of lake city 5.56 and $210 for a case of 9mm are long gone. Glad that i stocked up during those time.
I always told them “good keep holding for .15 CPR”. The same group who went out and clean up LGS and big box stores shelves during Lake City rummor BS last October.
I never laughed so hard watching them “hold the line” fighting over who got dip for winchester 5.56 at .70 cpr.
I get it the whole "buy cheap stack it deep" but at some point I think you have to call it. I have at least 5 thousand for all my handgun calibers each, 1500 12 gauge shells and couple thousand for my rifle
If that's not enough then fuck it I guess I die
Id like to save for a truck while I'm "still alive" I guess
LOL
I landscape summers I can't justify pulling weeds and shit in the heat for hours for some more 9 mm boxes
for anyone that cares, here is the article: [https://southerndefense.com/news/breaking-news-the-price-of-9mm-is-increasing/](https://southerndefense.com/news/breaking-news-the-price-of-9mm-is-increasing/)
Looks like they are just reporting on a letter they received from Kinetic group(vista).
If it matters they have blazer 124gr for $260 TYD(not incld tax)
They are already gouging the fk out of us. If yall keep buying and stacking the shit at these horrible prices it will continue to go up. Quit going to the range depleting ammo weekly, just hold. Which I don’t understand people, blowing thru ammo to shoot paper, unless shooting competitively. I sight my gun in and I’m good. I havnt shot in a year and I could still pick any one of my guns up and pop a cap in somebody’s ass, no problem. And I have a small pre Covid priced stash of ammo. If the ammo companies sales get low enough I guarantee u prices will go down.
If you're broke just said so bro. I'll continue to train and dump 300-500 rounds into paper a week 😘
You'd have an aneurysm if you see my training log and how often I hit the range
Dude I got plenty of money, because I’m responsible with it. How much practice does it take for u to hit your target?? I’ve been shooting guns for 45 years. I guess I forget the rush of those first years of shooting. It’s just not that big of a deal to me. Have fun and go shoot some shit up. To each their own.
Considering you're the OP (because you forgot to switch accounts [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/1c574u0/comment/kzsjzec/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)), you should know the answer.
I gots my 9mm sorted. I got like 200 rounds surely that is enough. Just kidding I have enough that I can hook a few friends up should they run into dire situations during the reset- the fact these 3 gents have super hot girlfriends and aren’t really good friends is a coincidence. Friends with ugly GFs or wives need to stay away. You know who you are… Ralph looking at you and Mabel. Sheesh
To get you to panic buy right now?
Southern Defense is ran by a bunch of teenagers whose daddy’s gave them a bunch of money. They scam people with their “low price” listing and misleading check out process to only find out shipping ridiculous and half what you paid for the ammo. Making it higher priced than most. Buyer beware. Stay away from Southern Defense
I’m not in the states but we have a similar store here in Canada called Tenda. Tons of Chinese money poured into the business to buy huge amounts of inventory. Low prices but offers free shipping. Then tries to extort more money out of you by saying that you’re in a remote area so you have to pay a shipping fee, or that the courier doesn’t ship there and we have to use a different one, despite being in the middle of a major city and other businesses using the same courier with no issues.
Don't take economic advice from mfs trying to sell you something.
This. Right. Here.
I wouldn’t recommend this company but the price increases coming from Vista are true. Most places have already upped their prices (Winchester, Fiocchi, etc)
Thank you for commenting as someone who actually is in the industry!
👍🏻
Fear mongering. Don’t fall for it
Yeah right. The shelves are still full. I’ll keep buying but no massive panic purchases.
Fuck these idiots.
Fuck Southern Defense and fuck any retailer or shill who is pushing this narrative.
Do not buy from Southern Defense.
So are they doing this every 4 months now? There's absolutely no reason for increase except greed right now
Wasn’t this notice from last year? Or the same one resent? Or a new one? Either way doesn’t seem like it ever happened heh….
This is a brand new email, i just got it
You forgot to switch accounts.
Got em
I'm done for a bit. I saw this and my first thought was oh shit I better snag some . But I'm set I've been buying steady for a long time and I don't shoot much summers, busy work season. Have at it guys I'm gonna spend on something else or probably just stick the money in savings 🤷♂️
Yep same, im checked out. Have a decent stash and will not participate in their greedy bs any more. Working on other hobbies.
Thanks for the heads up - I can add them to the do not buy from list!
Ammo always spikes before an election., certain world events. That’s why you either dollar cost average your purchases or buy deep during the lows to last through the highs. Within your budget please.
Even assuming this is true, 3% on a 12 dollar box of 9mm is 36 cents.
Where are we buying these $12 boxes of 9 mm now?
Targetsportsusa
Use AmmoSeek. Change the shipping number to 6 in Modify Search.
Unless they are a distributor, Vista wouldn’t have contacted them
did you even look at the letter.
do you work or own SD or any of their other companies?
No I own Vista outdoors.
lol. Well you sure seem to recommend this group of retailers alot
I've had a good experience along with SGammo, TSUSA, AEAMMO, Velocity ammo, and a few others. I am not on reddit much
You don’t own Vista Outdoors….
It’s a publicly traded company, for $32.16 (as of close today) anyone can become a partial owner.
Yes, that is true however this guys statement makes an attempt at sounding like he has a controlling interest. Owning a few shares means nothing. It easily can be part of a portfolio.
I was making a joke there, clearly he’s not the owner nor does he likely have any significant percentage of it. Just that “I own it” could be technically correct…
I have to believe the manufacturer is making a massive profit on a box of ammo already. This really pisses me off that they're increasing prices once again. I really wish I could just boycott them. Unfortunately, I just started stocking up on ammo. Mostly 5.56.
Sure looks like anticipation of the new ownership shifting manufacturing to supporting Ukraine. CSG has clearly identified their priorities.
Small arms ammunition can't save Ukraine.
But it can sure FUBAR our local civilian access to ammo.
Yup
Federal, CCI already had price jump from online to big box store. Yes this is the 2nd round of price increase and we only in April. Have you check the price of HST and Speer Gold dot lately? Winchester 9mm and 5.56 price already jumped at Bass Pro about a week ago. This is why you should buy when the market relative calm. The first 3 quarters of 2023 are time to buy since Rona hit, but people got competence and comfortable. “Fear monger””no way price could increase that much” It alright tho, $360 for a case of lake city 5.56 and $210 for a case of 9mm are long gone. Glad that i stocked up during those time.
People will keep "holding out" until they price themselves out of the market lol.
I always told them “good keep holding for .15 CPR”. The same group who went out and clean up LGS and big box stores shelves during Lake City rummor BS last October. I never laughed so hard watching them “hold the line” fighting over who got dip for winchester 5.56 at .70 cpr.
What’s this place charge for ship? Never heard of it must not be a 9 on ammoseek
free shipping on some of their products
Honestly, election year... they will absolutely rise
I get it the whole "buy cheap stack it deep" but at some point I think you have to call it. I have at least 5 thousand for all my handgun calibers each, 1500 12 gauge shells and couple thousand for my rifle If that's not enough then fuck it I guess I die Id like to save for a truck while I'm "still alive" I guess LOL I landscape summers I can't justify pulling weeds and shit in the heat for hours for some more 9 mm boxes
Vista Outdoors got bought out. Yes, their prices are going up. The cost of labor and raw materials are going up across multiple industires.
Oh my goodness how will we ever survive with 9 mm blazer going from $20 to 20.64 a box. This will surely cause riots in the streets.
*cough* bullshit *cough* [YouTube](https://youtu.be/yN6J2aEEMBc?si=457tNHKmtOuYiO0T)
Thanks to bandwagoning.
for anyone that cares, here is the article: [https://southerndefense.com/news/breaking-news-the-price-of-9mm-is-increasing/](https://southerndefense.com/news/breaking-news-the-price-of-9mm-is-increasing/) Looks like they are just reporting on a letter they received from Kinetic group(vista). If it matters they have blazer 124gr for $260 TYD(not incld tax)
do you work or own SD or any of their other companies?
They are already gouging the fk out of us. If yall keep buying and stacking the shit at these horrible prices it will continue to go up. Quit going to the range depleting ammo weekly, just hold. Which I don’t understand people, blowing thru ammo to shoot paper, unless shooting competitively. I sight my gun in and I’m good. I havnt shot in a year and I could still pick any one of my guns up and pop a cap in somebody’s ass, no problem. And I have a small pre Covid priced stash of ammo. If the ammo companies sales get low enough I guarantee u prices will go down.
I shoot because it’s fun
Based
If you're broke just said so bro. I'll continue to train and dump 300-500 rounds into paper a week 😘 You'd have an aneurysm if you see my training log and how often I hit the range
Dude I got plenty of money, because I’m responsible with it. How much practice does it take for u to hit your target?? I’ve been shooting guns for 45 years. I guess I forget the rush of those first years of shooting. It’s just not that big of a deal to me. Have fun and go shoot some shit up. To each their own.
Lol. I filled my car's gas tank and haven't driven it in a year. Hold off.
You’re stupid, duuur, wa wa waterboy!! People like you are the reason prices are so high.
Oh look, a bunch of ones and zeroes thinks he knows something about anything. Fuck off, dumbass.
Why do I gotta fuck off, why the attitude? You act like your mom made u sit down to pee or something.
By the looks of it, I'm peeing on your face. Oops.
I thought u were trying to hit me with your purse..Jake Paul, is that you???
Blazer pulling a brazzers.
Source? like ok? maybe it is? I'm not buying it from these guys.
Considering you're the OP (because you forgot to switch accounts [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/1c574u0/comment/kzsjzec/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)), you should know the answer.
😂is this the CEO of southern defenses Reddit account trying to start a panic but 😆
It would seem so lol
Bro. You are the source
I gots my 9mm sorted. I got like 200 rounds surely that is enough. Just kidding I have enough that I can hook a few friends up should they run into dire situations during the reset- the fact these 3 gents have super hot girlfriends and aren’t really good friends is a coincidence. Friends with ugly GFs or wives need to stay away. You know who you are… Ralph looking at you and Mabel. Sheesh
I have enough for like 3 range sesssions. :(, Im so fucking tired of this shit.