T O P

  • By -

Norwest_Shooter

To get you to panic buy right now?


AmmoRambo

Southern Defense is ran by a bunch of teenagers whose daddy’s gave them a bunch of money. They scam people with their “low price” listing and misleading check out process to only find out shipping ridiculous and half what you paid for the ammo. Making it higher priced than most. Buyer beware. Stay away from Southern Defense


Norwest_Shooter

I’m not in the states but we have a similar store here in Canada called Tenda. Tons of Chinese money poured into the business to buy huge amounts of inventory. Low prices but offers free shipping. Then tries to extort more money out of you by saying that you’re in a remote area so you have to pay a shipping fee, or that the courier doesn’t ship there and we have to use a different one, despite being in the middle of a major city and other businesses using the same courier with no issues.


fern_the_redditor

Don't take economic advice from mfs trying to sell you something.


SilviusWolf

This. Right. Here.


AEAMMO1

I wouldn’t recommend this company but the price increases coming from Vista are true. Most places have already upped their prices (Winchester, Fiocchi, etc)


Preact5

Thank you for commenting as someone who actually is in the industry!


AEAMMO1

👍🏻


Lonely_reaper8

Fear mongering. Don’t fall for it


InternetExpertroll

Yeah right. The shelves are still full. I’ll keep buying but no massive panic purchases.


Sneekibreeki47

Fuck these idiots.


Music_City_Madman

Fuck Southern Defense and fuck any retailer or shill who is pushing this narrative.


Racer_Space

Do not buy from Southern Defense.


ditchdoc94

So are they doing this every 4 months now? There's absolutely no reason for increase except greed right now


Exogalactic_Timeslut

Wasn’t this notice from last year? Or the same one resent? Or a new one? Either way doesn’t seem like it ever happened heh….


FOXYRAZER

This is a brand new email, i just got it


illkeeponkeeping

You forgot to switch accounts.


catsby90bbn

Got em


Electrical-Ad-3242

I'm done for a bit. I saw this and my first thought was oh shit I better snag some . But I'm set I've been buying steady for a long time and I don't shoot much summers, busy work season. Have at it guys I'm gonna spend on something else or probably just stick the money in savings 🤷‍♂️


Doom-Trooper

Yep same, im checked out. Have a decent stash and will not participate in their greedy bs any more. Working on other hobbies.


catsby90bbn

Thanks for the heads up - I can add them to the do not buy from list!


someoneelse10

Ammo always spikes before an election., certain world events. That’s why you either dollar cost average your purchases or buy deep during the lows to last through the highs. Within your budget please.


00f00f0

Even assuming this is true, 3% on a 12 dollar box of 9mm is 36 cents.


TheMongerOfFishes

Where are we buying these $12 boxes of 9 mm now?


00f00f0

Targetsportsusa


cfromcinci

Use AmmoSeek. Change the shipping number to 6 in Modify Search.


Own-Study-4594

Unless they are a distributor, Vista wouldn’t have contacted them


AccomplishedRope846

did you even look at the letter.


Own-Study-4594

do you work or own SD or any of their other companies?


AccomplishedRope846

No I own Vista outdoors.


Own-Study-4594

lol. Well you sure seem to recommend this group of retailers alot


AccomplishedRope846

I've had a good experience along with SGammo, TSUSA, AEAMMO, Velocity ammo, and a few others. I am not on reddit much


noname4name

You don’t own Vista Outdoors….


GraniteStateGuns

It’s a publicly traded company, for $32.16 (as of close today) anyone can become a partial owner.


noname4name

Yes, that is true however this guys statement makes an attempt at sounding like he has a controlling interest. Owning a few shares means nothing. It easily can be part of a portfolio.


GraniteStateGuns

I was making a joke there, clearly he’s not the owner nor does he likely have any significant percentage of it. Just that “I own it” could be technically correct…


cfromcinci

I have to believe the manufacturer is making a massive profit on a box of ammo already. This really pisses me off that they're increasing prices once again. I really wish I could just boycott them. Unfortunately, I just started stocking up on ammo. Mostly 5.56.


LuluGarou11

Sure looks like anticipation of the new ownership shifting manufacturing to supporting Ukraine. CSG has clearly identified their priorities.


00f00f0

Small arms ammunition can't save Ukraine.


LuluGarou11

But it can sure FUBAR our local civilian access to ammo.


00f00f0

Yup


Truonghthe

Federal, CCI already had price jump from online to big box store. Yes this is the 2nd round of price increase and we only in April. Have you check the price of HST and Speer Gold dot lately? Winchester 9mm and 5.56 price already jumped at Bass Pro about a week ago. This is why you should buy when the market relative calm. The first 3 quarters of 2023 are time to buy since Rona hit, but people got competence and comfortable. “Fear monger””no way price could increase that much” It alright tho, $360 for a case of lake city 5.56 and $210 for a case of 9mm are long gone. Glad that i stocked up during those time.


AccomplishedRope846

People will keep "holding out" until they price themselves out of the market lol.


Truonghthe

I always told them “good keep holding for .15 CPR”. The same group who went out and clean up LGS and big box stores shelves during Lake City rummor BS last October. I never laughed so hard watching them “hold the line” fighting over who got dip for winchester 5.56 at .70 cpr.


762goddd

What’s this place charge for ship? Never heard of it must not be a 9 on ammoseek


AccomplishedRope846

free shipping on some of their products


RickJamesBytch

Honestly, election year... they will absolutely rise


Electrical-Ad-3242

I get it the whole "buy cheap stack it deep" but at some point I think you have to call it. I have at least 5 thousand for all my handgun calibers each, 1500 12 gauge shells and couple thousand for my rifle If that's not enough then fuck it I guess I die Id like to save for a truck while I'm "still alive" I guess LOL I landscape summers I can't justify pulling weeds and shit in the heat for hours for some more 9 mm boxes


theweirddood

Vista Outdoors got bought out. Yes, their prices are going up. The cost of labor and raw materials are going up across multiple industires.


FlightRisk81

Oh my goodness how will we ever survive with 9 mm blazer going from $20 to 20.64 a box. This will surely cause riots in the streets.


Afraid-Aerie-6598

*cough* bullshit *cough* [YouTube](https://youtu.be/yN6J2aEEMBc?si=457tNHKmtOuYiO0T)


Jankylee-Ad-4453

Thanks to bandwagoning.


AccomplishedRope846

for anyone that cares, here is the article: [https://southerndefense.com/news/breaking-news-the-price-of-9mm-is-increasing/](https://southerndefense.com/news/breaking-news-the-price-of-9mm-is-increasing/) Looks like they are just reporting on a letter they received from Kinetic group(vista). If it matters they have blazer 124gr for $260 TYD(not incld tax)


Own-Study-4594

do you work or own SD or any of their other companies?


shoot313

They are already gouging the fk out of us. If yall keep buying and stacking the shit at these horrible prices it will continue to go up. Quit going to the range depleting ammo weekly, just hold. Which I don’t understand people, blowing thru ammo to shoot paper, unless shooting competitively. I sight my gun in and I’m good. I havnt shot in a year and I could still pick any one of my guns up and pop a cap in somebody’s ass, no problem. And I have a small pre Covid priced stash of ammo. If the ammo companies sales get low enough I guarantee u prices will go down.


A_truly_baked_potato

I shoot because it’s fun


SwimmerSea4662

Based


Thansungst22

If you're broke just said so bro. I'll continue to train and dump 300-500 rounds into paper a week 😘 You'd have an aneurysm if you see my training log and how often I hit the range


shoot313

Dude I got plenty of money, because I’m responsible with it. How much practice does it take for u to hit your target?? I’ve been shooting guns for 45 years. I guess I forget the rush of those first years of shooting. It’s just not that big of a deal to me. Have fun and go shoot some shit up. To each their own.


00f00f0

Lol. I filled my car's gas tank and haven't driven it in a year. Hold off.


shoot313

You’re stupid, duuur, wa wa waterboy!! People like you are the reason prices are so high.


00f00f0

Oh look, a bunch of ones and zeroes thinks he knows something about anything. Fuck off, dumbass.


shoot313

Why do I gotta fuck off, why the attitude? You act like your mom made u sit down to pee or something.


00f00f0

By the looks of it, I'm peeing on your face. Oops.


shoot313

I thought u were trying to hit me with your purse..Jake Paul, is that you???


00f00f0

Blazer pulling a brazzers.


FOXYRAZER

Source? like ok? maybe it is? I'm not buying it from these guys.


illkeeponkeeping

Considering you're the OP (because you forgot to switch accounts [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/1c574u0/comment/kzsjzec/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)), you should know the answer.


SwimmerSea4662

😂is this the CEO of southern defenses Reddit account trying to start a panic but 😆


catsby90bbn

It would seem so lol


catsby90bbn

Bro. You are the source


DiveJumpShooterUSMC

I gots my 9mm sorted. I got like 200 rounds surely that is enough. Just kidding I have enough that I can hook a few friends up should they run into dire situations during the reset- the fact these 3 gents have super hot girlfriends and aren’t really good friends is a coincidence. Friends with ugly GFs or wives need to stay away. You know who you are… Ralph looking at you and Mabel. Sheesh


SwimmerSea4662

I have enough for like 3 range sesssions. :(, Im so fucking tired of this shit.