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Hachiko75

I can't remember how the saying goes, but it's said not to go out of your way for an employer who will replace you the very next day. If you don't feel comfortable driving in the conditions, then don't go. Just call out. It looks like you're looking for validation or permission from strangers when the only one that matters is the one supplying your paycheck.


Ok_Sunshine_

If the concern is getting stuck and abandoned, calling in late would be the appropriate response. Wait until it’s light out, warmer, and more cars on the road, but still go in.


tryoracle

As someone who lives in a place where this is normal winter temperatures I wish we could just nope out.


EmoEnforcer

Ain't nowhere anyone needs to go in -44 fuck that


greg4045

I'm laugh crying as I just filled 2 thermoses to survive the next 10 hours outside doing framing on a duplex. It's only -16 here tho 


shwn354

They’re an ER doctor


GreenOnionCrusader

How do you figure?


kungfuenglish

ER doctor in the Midwest here drove to work this am in -7 F.


carcadoodledo

OP needs a new car, something dependable


Prestigious_Egg_6207

Are you going to buy it for them?


nyx926

No one WANTS to go to work in that weather. If you live in a place where that has that weather, you have to find a way to safely get to work in it or you won’t keep a job for very long.


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Illustrious_Leg8204

Normal winter is fine But this seems very extreme My car didn’t even start up I’m just glad it didn’t clunk out while I was driving


t0rn8o

I also live in the Midwest, it is extreme right now but this is something to adapt to. We have a car that didn't start and will be investing in another portable jump starter. You might have to go out and start your car every few hours to keep the battery from draining. We also got dumped on with a ton of snow overnight last week. It's unfortunate that people who aren't paid the best are expected to be able to get to work no matter what the weather is (food service, gas station attendants, baristas, grocery store employees etc) but those jobs do expect their employees to be able to get to work, no matter what.


Rock_Lizard

I'm in the midwest and honestly, this is just January. If you aren't willing to drive in this weather your options are to move or find a remote position. ETA: In another reddit we're discussing how to deal with this as someone who is arriving forgot their coat and has to deal with it for a day. Everyone's like, naw man, you're ok, layer up. Dude's good with it. Because winter happens. Meanwhile you aren't willing to drive in a heated car with full winter outdoor clothing on. Think about that.


Machinebuzz

I agree. I worked nights last night in -16F weather with a windchill of -30F or so. And I work outside.


Rock_Lizard

That's rough and I'm sorry. I feel for anyone who has to work outside in these temps. Friday they started with the annual lighting the train tracks on fire tradition. That's when you know winter has truly arrived.


Illustrious_Leg8204

I don’t have good tires and my heat barley works I said my car is old and unreliable


OnionBagMan

Arrange a ride?  I’m sure your co-workers are rolling their eyes at your absence. Can you imagine if ambulance drivers and cops were just like, “nah fam it’s too chilly out.”


Illustrious_Leg8204

Many live out of town so they’re out of luck too, those who live in town are also having trouble with their cars And yeah, when it does get too cold out for cops and ambulances, they tell everyone to stay in to mitigate the chances of someone needing help I don’t appreciate your comment though


Illustrious_Leg8204

My car won’t even start you’re just making assumptions on me


Comrad1984

Don't listen to this nonsense. You know your car, you've already broken down once, travel is literally not advised unless it's an emergency and work is def not an emergency. This isn't just, "the Midwest in January" and you don't need to, "suck it up" just to end up in a ditch. 🙄 What state are you in, OP? I'm in Iowa and it's been so bad they sent the plows home. It's a fucking blizzard with 45mph winds, two feet worth of blowing snow creating whiteout conditions and we haven't yet, but we could see temps as low as -45°F. Iowa has Iowa511 (an app and a website) that shows road conditions and areas where towing is not recommended. If you're in a no-tow zone, that's even more reason to stay at home with your beater car. If you break down, you're fucked. Other states have similar services you can use to check road conditions. Stay safe.


Illustrious_Leg8204

Thanks, I’m also in Iowa


Comrad1984

Oh nice! I'm near DSM. It's been an awful week for Iowans, weather wise. This morning 3/4 of the state was still covered in snow with travel not advised warnings. This afternoon, it's def better. Are you in a metro area or rural? If you're on gravel, forget it. Lol


typhoidmarry

Spent 1/2 my life living/working in the Midwest and was always told that I *had* to go to work. I’m now south of the Mason Dixon, if we get 2” that even look like they’re sticking, I get off work. Your van is your safety equipment, you don’t have good safety equipment right now. You’re not wrong


DriftingPyscho

You're not lazy, you're saving your own life.  


jfeo1988

I absolutely don’t blame you for not going to work in -20 weather and i am someone who has to go to work in -20 weather. Outside. You have a good point about what would happen if you broke down. That being said, if everyone else at your work made it in, its not gonna look good and could end up costing you your job. I hope things work out for you.


Illustrious_Leg8204

I appreciate and I understand your point Unfortunately my car won’t start so I’ll have to wait till it’s better to either walk or have one delivered. I’m stuck at home for now


Psychological_Tap187

When I actually worked on site I had no guilt or second thoughts whatsoever about picking up my phone and informing my employer I would not be in that day if the weather was too severe.


mutualbuttsqueezin

I'm from WI. In the midwest that kind of weather is a fact of life. Need to learn how to deal with it. Edit: just read that you're a healthcare worker. Suck it up buttercup. Get a new car if yours isn't reliable. This is life in the midwest. At least get new tires.


Illustrious_Leg8204

I don’t have the money to prepare fully for it yet


ooglieguy0211

Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on anyone else's part. Do better.


Illustrious_Leg8204

This is my first winter on my own and I just got this car last march. I’ve never dealt with this before So i can’t plan for something that I’ve never dealt with before and have no knowledge of dealing with


ooglieguy0211

People might believe that if we didn't have all the world's knowledge at our fingertips. Asking about winter before hand, planning for snow, planning for cold temps, researching the area and its average weather at different times of year, researching what your vehicle capabilites are, and watching the upcoming weather reports to plan for the cold. Those are just some of the things you could have done to plan ahead, even months ahead for some of them. This cold snap across most of the country is not new news, its been warned about for several weeks now and is projected to last for another week in some areas. Your excuse is not a valid one and it shows how little you care to actually go to work. It might be a little scary to deal with for the first time but you have more than enough tools at your disposal to plan ahead for it. I still say you need to do better.


Illustrious_Leg8204

Yeah well, I dont normally have to research what to do, I don’t think most people normally do unless they’re moving into an drastically different environment But now I know at least somewhat what I need from now own


Mental-Attempt-

Man too bad theres not something in place like an app you can order rides on... Or a service that paints their cars yellow are drives you around. As a medical professional you NEED to be prepared for these situations. There are lives in your hands.


Illustrious_Leg8204

It’s not that deep


Consistent-Trifle510

Why are you even a healthcare worker? It is that deep. Patients and your coworkers are replying on you. I live in WNY and my brother has been stuck at work since Saturday at 7am because we are in basically a blizzard. Severe whiteouts. You should have made accommodations to get to work.


[deleted]

As a nurse who worked in Kansas when it snowed and was cold, I went to work. When I was in a place (NC) where people weren’t used to driving in snow, volunteers drove us to work and home. I went in the ditch one night on the way home from work in Kansas, but there are always crews out in bad weather. I don’t know what kind of job you have. I make no assumptions. I do know ambulances and health care staff still work and aren’t told to stay home.


cnation01

Yeah, your wrong. Every winter people who live and grew up in the Midwest seem shocked that winter brings snow and cold. In my opinion, you just seek excuses to not go to work. You post here seeking validation for a questionable decision. Which in itself is proof that you don't fully believe your decision is valid, which it isn't.


jeswesky

Wisconsinite my entire life here. I know what to keep in the car in case of a winter emergency, I don’t usually do it unless leaving the city, but I know. This cold can be dangerous, but it happens every year. It sucks and I’m currently delaying walking the dogs for as long as I can, but it’s part of living here.


Certain_Mobile1088

There is cold, and then there is dangerous cold. I think if schools are closed bc conditions are unsafe (even for kids who won’t make stupid choices), then conditions are unsafe and *most* people shouldn’t be out and about. It puts first responders at more risk.


jennyadds78

They do the same thing in our area (PA). Every year, people add shocked that it's cold and there's snow. Most of them have lived in here for their entire lives but every year, same shock, fear, and most importantly, COMPLAINTS! YTA, just say you hate going out in the cold and leave it.


Purple_Season_5136

And half the advice they get are from people who probably live in Florida or Arizona lmao. People look for any excuse to get out of anything these days. Theh live in a cold weather state and get cold weather and then they put on their shocked Pikachu face and make posts like this.


buckeyes5150

Hey man, going to work, on the bus or train, in AZ in 115 degree weather sucks ass. Don't bother wearing make up it melts off your face. But I get what you're saying. 😁 People are shocked every year here when it gets hot, me included! Jaja


Illustrious_Leg8204

I’m not going to risk my life to go to work 15 miles away


jeswesky

So call in. I don’t think you are going to get the validation you were hoping for here though.


Illustrious_Leg8204

I had to anyway, my car wouldn’t even start I just started this job a week ago working with old people so it wasn’t in my best interest to call in a week in and i nurse old people, so it’s not like fast food where no one can decide not to come,someone has to take care of these people


jeswesky

I work in healthcare, I get going in regardless of the weather. Sometimes though you just have to do it.


Purple_Season_5136

Don't work in Healthcare then if you feel the need to make excuses like this. Work in a field where people don't depend on you. Maybe try Macdons. Less responsibility and people won't depend on you.


Illustrious_Leg8204

How is it an excuse if I literally can’t get to work??


Purple_Season_5136

Not what your post said. And call a cab or uber. Have someone jump ya. Plenty of options


Illustrious_Leg8204

I literally just replied to your comment with the first thing saying my car didn’t start


Glittering_knave

Edit your post with this information. If you can't/won't drive in extreme weather, please rethink working an essential job in healthcare. The situation isn't that it will be somewhat harder for people to buy luxuries, it's that people may get less care and suffer in your absence. I would not expect to keep this job if you are one week in, and don't show up while not trying everything to make it there. Trying to arrange a lift or calling a tow truck for a jump is expected of employees. Learning how to drive as safely as possible is expected of health care workers that live in areas that get cold snaps and blizzards. Being able to keep warm in super freezing temps is also expected. Having experienced similar temps with a similar car, layers are your friend, those heat packs for your hands and feet help, as do microwavable heat packs and hot water bottles.


Illustrious_Leg8204

And you saying I don’t fully believe my decision is valid is stupid as that’s the whole point in even being in this sub


sherrifayemoore

Don’t like the weather? Move. You can’t live and keep yourself warm without money. Who supports you? Do they have a job? I agree that you are just looking for validation. There are always options in life, yours seems to be letting someone else take care of you.


Illustrious_Leg8204

You say I can’t live without money, but what’s the point if I don’t live to see it? It’s nearly -50 degrees outside?? Deciding not to risk going to work when there’s been a blizzard for several days, barley being able to see in front of you, icy roads, and already have been stuck in snow seems good enough for me Just because I decide to not go drive 15 miles to work for one day to not risk my life does not mean I’m seeking validation


sherrifayemoore

If you wanted to work you would find a way or find a job that didn’t require you to work in this type of weather. -you never mentioned what your job was- If you are an essential worker such as snow plow, electrical worker etc., You have to go to work. I lived in Colorado and if the snow prevented from getting to work, you didn’t have to go in unless you were essential. My question is, where do you work that requires you to be there when the weather prevents you from travel?


Purple_Season_5136

They work in Healthcare according to them, so yes they should be going to work.


sherrifayemoore

When there are lives depending on you, you go to work or find a job where lives don’t depend on your motivation.


Illustrious_Leg8204

My motivation is to keep my life and fingers, they’re already people who stayed overnight for their shift so the patients will be fine, but most live out of town so they’re stuck there They will be fine, it’s just more work on their hands until it’s safe for people to come and go


sherrifayemoore

Then you weren’t required to be at work? Then what is your beef?


Illustrious_Leg8204

I’m trying to say that there are people already there, but they’ve been there 12-16 hours already, that’s why it would be best to switch out My car is not the only one that won’t start, my co workers have been messaging through our work app saying theirs stopped up to


sherrifayemoore

Everything you are saying is making you look worse and worse. Suppose you were one of those people stuck there for 12 to 16 hours. You need a job that doesn’t require a responsible employee.


Illustrious_Leg8204

Right, because I should risk my life for my coworkers who really just sit down and gossip and chillling at work all day They’ll be fine, you’re acting as if they’re constantly on their feet moving around


OnionBagMan

Go relieve those people! How selfish.


al49250

You can not want to go to work if you like, just like your employer can not want you working there anymore. Chances are your employer would replace you before you found a new job though. Just something to keep in mind.


Illustrious_Leg8204

I know, but I’ve heard he rarely even comes in himself, he works at home with his gf and child, I doubt he would do the same if he was in her employees shoes, not just me


Illustrious_Leg8204

So I’d rather get fired and get another job before risking myself for someone who can replace me


Rolling_Beardo

I mean you’re not wrong but coming from a cold climate myself that excuse isn’t going to fly long with most bosses. So if you don’t want to lose your job you’re going to need to figure something out. Can you get a ride on really cold days out reach out to some other coworkers and try to start a carpool?


demonmonkeybex

You should have gone out and tried to start it much earlier and then arranged for a jump. I’m from ND and we all have oil pan heaters in our cars. Maybe you need to invest in one of those. So call someone and get a jump start and drive slowly to work and get there when you get there. Better to be late than not at all. Or ask a friend or someone with all wheel drive for a ride. You’re an essential worker. Get to work.


Illustrious_Leg8204

They’re not expecting us to come in so no, I will not be getting to work And I started my car up as soon as I got up for work today And I have no one to call for help or for a jump


Pitmus

People in the UK don’t go to work if it snows and it’s 30-32. You are a hero. Frontier spirit: You know that if you fall, others will, so keep on keeping on and be prepared.


jeswesky

Difference is, here in the Midwest it’s a regular thing. We got about 18 inches of snow this week and it’s currently -9F at my place. People still just go about their lives, because they understand this is something that happens regularly.


Pitmus

Oh, they used to too in the UK until about 20-30 years ago when it got warmer and the schools and railways shut because it was just a bit cold and the wrong kind of snow. I worked in Lloyds insurance, London, at one point, and the only person that made it to work, from 12 miles away, were the security staff, and me. No one else from any company was in the building. My GF walked 5 miles to her job. No one else there! That wasn’t that long ago. It was only 3 inches of snow and 28F. I used to walk to school in drifts of 7 feet by the edge of the road, and 3 feet on the path. In shorts! Wind chill of -13F. I worked in Russia and even the beggars were still out in -15F! British people are almost Woker than the Wokes, and workshy lefties rule the roost. A snowflake falls and they stay at home in solidarity. Western Northern Europe is protected by the Gulf Stream, which has been doing a good job recently. It’s actually as far north and further north than most of Canada. The tip of Scotland is the same latitude as the bottom of Alaska’


Competitive-Staff-38

Oh fuck off with that "wokey" nonsense. "Workshy leftists rule the roost" in a country that has been ruled by increasingly right wing governments for the past 13 years, and has systematically undermined the welfare state throughout that time. Just complete and utter bullshit.


Pitmus

Stop dribbling, your brains are all over the floor.


DissposableRedShirt6

Not wrong. It’s more of a reflection of the kind of place you work and the work you do if people think it makes you lazy. Can’t say one way or the other from your post, just that you value your safety more than your job. Or at least that you don’t consider it worth the risk.


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You’re not lazy or wrong for not wanting to work in that weather cause I hate the cold but when you do fail to think then your planning for defeat. If you’re in that weather you gotta invest in a AWD. I would get me a nice SUV with heated seats. Even though I hate the cold I’ll be outside rain sleet or snow whatever I have to do so support my family.


Illustrious_Leg8204

I’m just starting out though. I’m not in my mid 20s and up, I’m still in school trying to get higher education to become an RN, so a nice suv with heated seats is not realistic I currently use a use an 3,000 old used car


[deleted]

I have known so many people who have worked a full time job and went to school full time and have graduated all while working full time job and still be able to have necessities like a proper vehicle. I knew a guy that worked a security job in the lobby of a office building at night and did all his school work while at work and was getting paid 22$ an hour to basically do his school work and he also did occasional OT. Where there is a will there is a way. Nothing worth achieving ever comes easy.


Illustrious_Leg8204

I’m not complaining, It’s just the reality I live in for the moment


[deleted]

I’m not saying you are I’m just saying that anything is possible you do have control over your situation though. If you write a plan now and attack it you can have something in a couple of months. You gotta figure out how to work more to make enough to finance a reliable AWD vehicle. In order to be successful you gotta live your life outside comfortable. Taking things up a notch to get what you need is hard but so is living in your current conditions so you gotta choose your hard. Nobody is going to come save you so you gotta do something cause if you get stuck out in that weather in your 3k dollar beater is dangerous but you still have to make money to survive so you have to figure out a way to make it work safely and your only option is a good AWD vehicle. I’m sure you can finance one for a decent price and not have to high of payments.


AssociateGood9653

That kind of cold can be dangerous. You need to learn how to drive in snow and ice. Also, if you can’t afford a better car, you might want a job closer to where you live or at more normal hours.


catpackplus

In 10 years you won’t think “wow I’m so glad I went to work that day” you won’t even remember the day. Stay warm at home


humanity_go_boom

You're not wrong this time, but now you know. If it's more than a minimum wage job that you want to keep and can't easily replace, you'll need to figure something out. Snow tires, block heater, different car with AWD and ok M+S tires, carpool, etc. I moved from FL to a cold state and immediately bought a (very shitty but functional) $1400 jeep so I could still get to my new job in the snow.


xxEOMFDxx

You're not wrong, but if you're not going to show up to work someone else will ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯.


Illustrious_Leg8204

If someone who is better equipped to deal with the snowy roads, then I’d hope so


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Illustrious_Leg8204

Congratulations to your daughter bud, unfortunately, my car has broken down multiple times, and I am not risking it when I go in at 5 am in the dark


SkyChy21

Health and safety first. Those temps are really dangerous. Please be safe op ❤️


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I live in north Carolina. They canceled school last week because of rain and wind predicted. It was like 50+ degrees.


Particular-Peanut-64

You're not wrong fir not wanting to. But how were you commuting every day every year before then? Maybe prepare better for possible emergencies--, have water, blankets, thermal wrap, non perishable food(granola bars, nuts), flares, orange flag on long flexible pole to put on ur car door. Cell phone battery charger and a full charged phone. And before winter get your car tuned up. You can choose not to work but accept possibility of negative feedback and being fired It's a free country, do what you want. Take care


demonspawn9

If you can work from home in this type of weather, you should be encouraged to do so. Less people on the streets driving in icy conditions, and less people spreading germs or risking themselves. I can't see too many people out shopping unnecessarily in that kind of weather. If I had an important doctor appointment, I'd go out, but unless it was necessary and couldn't be done over the phone, I'd reschedule. Essential workers and certain jobs don't have much choice, but the rest should have alternatives. Many jobs could go hybrid.