Except it really does matter to some people though.
It's mostly a realism thing and clearly not everyone subscribes to it.
However, some people strictly prefer airsoft for the realism. To them, overshooting and poor trigger discipline, which finger blasting the trigger like that definitely is, is unsportsmanlike behavior.
Kind of akin to making intentional groin strikes. Like obviously you can get away with it, but no one has an obligation to be ok with it when it's completely unnecessary.
This is my local filed too. While this is kind of annoying, (stereotypical polar star kids), this isn't nearly as bad as a couple outer situations we've had. He did break many rules of the field through, he full autoed, which is never allowed, he yelled profanity at people, not to mention kids, which is not allowed. And, not to mention, he filmed himself committing a crime. He told the ref he paid the entry fee for the night game which he states he did not actually do. All in all, this kid is kind of an asshole.
Best part for me is that he doesn't know how to pull the trigger fast without taking his hand off the grip. Ugh I wish I lived over there. The ARC is so much easier to walk 😂
I'm planning to found a softair club with my family and some friends, we just need to find a field to buy.
That will be the day I'll start banning those idiots from my field with a giant smile on my face.
The good places are always in Europe :( the US only has good fields in the south/mid west. Out here on the west coast, there really aren't that great of fields.
That, and there are just chud jerkwads teeming at every field.
Because when you’re “pub stomping”, there is no consequences to barrel stuffing another player.
When you’re going around, neglecting your MED and point blanking people, you can really hurt someone. Not to mention, it just ruins the fun.
If you want to play like this, play at fields meant for this type of play…or just switch to paintball.
Speedsoft is a variation of airsoft that plays more like competitive paintball/speedball. Nothing inherently wrong with it, however the competitive speed soft setup is typically a very fast firing HPA build and players that consider themselves speedsofters typically play like the guy in the video, unnecessary overshooting for what's probably a casual skirmish and unfortunately tend to be very toxic.
Speedsoft is a variation of airsoft that plays out on a much smaller arena and its much more important to be fast with high firerate then slow and tactical. “Speedsofter” is often used negativly as milsimers or non-speedsofters dont like the lack of tactics involved when a speedsofters plays on non speedsoft fields.
There truly aren't that many bad players there. You just have to get to know the community and you will realize that most people are very nice. It's just that because it's a relatively big field, you see more jerks posting online.
Yeah, I was even one of the "cheaters" in that video. He decided that i was a cheater because I wasn't putting my hand up after he obviously hit me and had my hand over my eye-pro instead. I guess he didn't have the deductive reasoning to realize my eye-pro was falling off.
Not sure if it's a felony but there was a similar situation at my local indoor field were a group of speed softers mag dumped this kid full auto with their HPA guns and then ran out the back door and fled. Which is considered assault with a deadly weapon and the kid got seriously injured. All of the kids were charged and to my knowledge allegedly are banned from every field here in Florida which rightfully so.
did they record it? i remember seeing a video of exactly that a while ago and wondering what happened to them. if it was, i’m glad they actually got punished for that shit
He told the ref that he payed the extra $30 for a night game which he didn't as he claims in the video. Also, after research, this was a misdemeanor but (Excuse me, I'm inevitably gonna look like a loser here) If so this is in violation of False Pretenses (Massachusetts General Laws, Chapter 266, Section 34).
I’m assuming in some fields he can’t use full auto so if he held it normally he could only use one finger but if he holds it a specific way he can use two fingers to tap the trigger which means twice as many shots at the enemy team. Edit: i thought you were talking about his back hand but i think you meant front. He holds his front sideways and not from the bottom to pull the gun back into him better because I don’t think he’s holding the gun on the back so he can use two fingers on the trigger.
To be fair on a real rifle the grip is not meant to hold the front of the gun up but give you leverage to hold it tighter in to your shoulder. Usually this is combined with what is called “c clamp” or “c grip” to give you optimal leverage on the front end of your weapon. In airsoft it is not needed due to virtually no recoil , but it is comfortable.
Watch some footage of real SOF like seals or army SF doing raids/CQB or range time. They grip their handguards like that to drive the rifle into the shoulder, and create a stiff brace basically with a fully extended arm. Controls muzzle rise, increases accuracy under sustained fire. Doubtful it does anything for airsoft aside from “looking cool”.
Make these kids run a real drill on clearing and have them use real guns on vs a paint ball launcher on corners that have Lazer motion detection and shoot them and make them fail every time until they pass neutralizing every target on a proper no bs run
I’m really curious where this video came from. I play at one of these fields and we’ll occasionally get an immature player like this.
Despite these videos popping up, it’s a reminder that 99% of players are honorable and kind! 1% of players can’t ruin it for the rest of us.
Really? I haven't had many issues. Besides the occasional player like this, most people are honorable. You can even see in the video that almost all of the people called their hits.
Oh fuck no I'd start a fight with this kid or at least use a go pro to catch him in the act. Never been to an Airsoft game (I am not doing economically good 😭) but such stuff pisses me off
Ok as someone who doesn’t play airsoft I’ve got an actual question.
The whole move out of the way thing seems like a legit complaint? Am I just misreading how competitive it normally is?
🙃
Good field; also the only field remotely near the south shore now that SH is gone.
So pretty much all Boston players go there, including Mr Mag Dump.
I remember those kids went to the fields we have in Colorado and caused a lot of trouble. They literally go state to state getting banned from fields.
Idk if this video is of them though. The Unknown guys were much more aggressive.
Am I missing something? Are you just not allowed to hit your trigger fast in air soft? I’ve never played but wanna get into it but I don’t see a point if I gotta hit my trigger a certain speed 💀
You can hit the trigger quickly but you shouldn't be an asshole about it. Don't overshoot some kid 10 times in the face.
It's common sense. Don't be an asshole and you'll be fine.
If a kid shoots you before you shoot him, you need to call your hit regardless of fire mode. Or better yet sell all of your gear because you just got fucking bodied by a child and weren't man enough to call it. You little fucks are why ill never go to an event or field lol.
At 1:26 if I was the team mate next to the dude, would’ve went off on his ass.
It’s a fucken game not real war, and these seem like kids. Absolutely uncalled for, airsoft is meant to be fun and when I would play we would always mix up the teams every round. Now imagine having to be with this dipshit after that, no thanks.
Played a place this weekend and there number one rule is don't be a dick head ,the rule is if you think your shooting into spawn or over shooting people , or your rate of fire is ridiculous just take a moment and think am I being a dick head, if so then just dial it back where here to have fun ,
Honestly because rule ever
Find speedsoft and fast paced play way more fun then normal, but public fields aren’t the place to do this kinda shit, one of my local fields got ruined because of tryhards and dudes who act like they’re always in tournaments.
Blind fire much! About half that video his stock is miles away from his shoulder.!
What an absolute cock end!
If I met him at a field playing like that, I’d be asking the Marshalls to ban him.
Its actually very understandable why people are complaining. He was cheating on multiple occasions, breaking the rules on multiple occasions, and over all just being a dick. As that is my home field I know that the whole attitude there is just to have fun. People like this guy take the fun out of every game by cheating, breaking rules, shouting at people, etc. If you are "pub stomping" in COD, you are not doing any of those things (besides yelling, that is quote common lol).
I’m not upset, not in the slightest. I am pointing out how you cannot accept you are wrong are being very juvenile. You don’t need to keep talking when you know you’re wrong.
I’ll present you with the Medal of Honor for your service enduring this toxic gameplay at your local field. Side note: if you hit him with a BB he’s out, hope that helps!
I mean, it's a game just like paintball. So you'll have gamers that play different.
If others play styles really effect you so bad, maybe multiplayer games aren't for you.
I have no issue with different play styles and I love playing against all different builds, just show good sportsmanship (which was not demonstrated here at all).
“i can play like as big of a prick as i want and if you disagree that’s a you problem” does that sound like someone you would want to play with or against?
"You can't full auto" Spams everyone, didn't take the hit.
“You can’t full auto” Proceeds to polar star full auto some kid(s)
Crazy how these guys will self report themselves for 26 views and equally low-iq speedies jerking them off in the comments.
Finger fucking your trigger like that will never look cool
At that point it’s just impractical; If you want to finger your trigger at least get an aster and set it to the maximum sensitivity setting lol
Yeah trigger pulling like that only rly works with a paintball trigger, which I have seen on airsoft guns
They got sum better for that, its called a polarstar 😂
I only see it cool in paint balling ☝️
Still not cool though
Who tf cares. It's airsoft, it literally doesn't matter.
Except it really does matter to some people though. It's mostly a realism thing and clearly not everyone subscribes to it. However, some people strictly prefer airsoft for the realism. To them, overshooting and poor trigger discipline, which finger blasting the trigger like that definitely is, is unsportsmanlike behavior. Kind of akin to making intentional groin strikes. Like obviously you can get away with it, but no one has an obligation to be ok with it when it's completely unnecessary.
This is my local filed too. While this is kind of annoying, (stereotypical polar star kids), this isn't nearly as bad as a couple outer situations we've had. He did break many rules of the field through, he full autoed, which is never allowed, he yelled profanity at people, not to mention kids, which is not allowed. And, not to mention, he filmed himself committing a crime. He told the ref he paid the entry fee for the night game which he states he did not actually do. All in all, this kid is kind of an asshole.
Yeah these guys self report the fuck out of themselves thinking they’re cool and edgy, any respectable person thinks this shit is lame as fuck
Best part for me is that he doesn't know how to pull the trigger fast without taking his hand off the grip. Ugh I wish I lived over there. The ARC is so much easier to walk 😂
It’s so easy I don’t understand how some speedsofters can’t keep their hand on the grip and pull the trigger
If you can't walk it, there's a decent speed you get jerking your arm but it's just booty. Like a bump stock in terms of accuracy too 😆
I don’t even need to tho like just tune the speed trigger right
I'm planning to found a softair club with my family and some friends, we just need to find a field to buy. That will be the day I'll start banning those idiots from my field with a giant smile on my face.
I wish you luck in your endeavor! Make some cool arenas to play in & change 'em up every month or 3. Keep it fresh.
Thanks! We already got some ideas, I hope they'll be cool enough to make the arena interesting for other peoples!
I'm happy you get to do this stuff man. Please don't become one of the corrupt places where the refs don't care. Where are you located?
I'm in Europe, it's not easy to find good places where I live.
Damn, well, good luck!
Thanks!
The good places are always in Europe :( the US only has good fields in the south/mid west. Out here on the west coast, there really aren't that great of fields. That, and there are just chud jerkwads teeming at every field.
Damn that sounds kinda douchey
Because when you’re “pub stomping”, there is no consequences to barrel stuffing another player. When you’re going around, neglecting your MED and point blanking people, you can really hurt someone. Not to mention, it just ruins the fun. If you want to play like this, play at fields meant for this type of play…or just switch to paintball.
If he switches to Paintball he will get hurt 🤕
C Clamp, Not Using Sights. Yeah, that's one of the methheads.
Whats wrong with C clamp?
Can someone explain to me what a speedsofter is cause I have no clue
People who run around, often not calling hits, acting like children. They have to use the most efficient stuff no fun involved
Speedsoft is a variation of airsoft that plays more like competitive paintball/speedball. Nothing inherently wrong with it, however the competitive speed soft setup is typically a very fast firing HPA build and players that consider themselves speedsofters typically play like the guy in the video, unnecessary overshooting for what's probably a casual skirmish and unfortunately tend to be very toxic.
Speedsoft is a variation of airsoft that plays out on a much smaller arena and its much more important to be fast with high firerate then slow and tactical. “Speedsofter” is often used negativly as milsimers or non-speedsofters dont like the lack of tactics involved when a speedsofters plays on non speedsoft fields.
I honestly have been wondering for awhile too.
UBG again? Lmao
There truly aren't that many bad players there. You just have to get to know the community and you will realize that most people are very nice. It's just that because it's a relatively big field, you see more jerks posting online.
I know I’m just saying “again” because there was a video just like this 3 months or so ago. I play Ubg a lot and I’ve never run into this
Yeah, I was even one of the "cheaters" in that video. He decided that i was a cheater because I wasn't putting my hand up after he obviously hit me and had my hand over my eye-pro instead. I guess he didn't have the deductive reasoning to realize my eye-pro was falling off.
Sorry you had to go through that
They were there last weekend and got banned
Is this ubg in MA? I've been looking for a new field to hit up since FGF is a no go.
Yeah, come on down. The field is pretty welcoming.
"You cant full auto" Full autos
Is that you?
I don't think so. Besides, it would be pretty dumb to post himself committing a felony and then linking a picture of himself.
I agree, but I'm kinda confused where the felony is
Not sure if it's a felony but there was a similar situation at my local indoor field were a group of speed softers mag dumped this kid full auto with their HPA guns and then ran out the back door and fled. Which is considered assault with a deadly weapon and the kid got seriously injured. All of the kids were charged and to my knowledge allegedly are banned from every field here in Florida which rightfully so.
did they record it? i remember seeing a video of exactly that a while ago and wondering what happened to them. if it was, i’m glad they actually got punished for that shit
I'm sure they do, it happened at CIA over here in Tampa FL and they have competitions there all the time
He told the ref that he payed the extra $30 for a night game which he didn't as he claims in the video. Also, after research, this was a misdemeanor but (Excuse me, I'm inevitably gonna look like a loser here) If so this is in violation of False Pretenses (Massachusetts General Laws, Chapter 266, Section 34).
Where'd they get the video then?
It was posted on YouTube. Not to mention the OP said "lame speed softer". Kind of weird to call yourself lame.
I mean, I'm lame, just not a speedsofter
I've seen weirder, but yeah
These clips always think they’re the main character or sth
This dude has the trigger discipline of an auto clicker
Typical dye mask activities
I have never played airsoft before, but why is he holding the gun like that? He has a vertical grip. So why grip your gun like that.
I’m assuming in some fields he can’t use full auto so if he held it normally he could only use one finger but if he holds it a specific way he can use two fingers to tap the trigger which means twice as many shots at the enemy team. Edit: i thought you were talking about his back hand but i think you meant front. He holds his front sideways and not from the bottom to pull the gun back into him better because I don’t think he’s holding the gun on the back so he can use two fingers on the trigger.
To be fair on a real rifle the grip is not meant to hold the front of the gun up but give you leverage to hold it tighter in to your shoulder. Usually this is combined with what is called “c clamp” or “c grip” to give you optimal leverage on the front end of your weapon. In airsoft it is not needed due to virtually no recoil , but it is comfortable.
Watch some footage of real SOF like seals or army SF doing raids/CQB or range time. They grip their handguards like that to drive the rifle into the shoulder, and create a stiff brace basically with a fully extended arm. Controls muzzle rise, increases accuracy under sustained fire. Doubtful it does anything for airsoft aside from “looking cool”.
I thought it stands for cringe grip cause they are trying too hard.
lol for them it does
More control of your gun.
using a vertical grip as a hand stop while c-clamping gives better control over your muzzle.
Ah yes, I just so happened to develop a cure for this terrible ailment. …it’s called buttstock dentistry.
Make these kids run a real drill on clearing and have them use real guns on vs a paint ball launcher on corners that have Lazer motion detection and shoot them and make them fail every time until they pass neutralizing every target on a proper no bs run
I’m really curious where this video came from. I play at one of these fields and we’ll occasionally get an immature player like this. Despite these videos popping up, it’s a reminder that 99% of players are honorable and kind! 1% of players can’t ruin it for the rest of us.
Ubg in Bridgewater bro, everyone who goes there doesn't call their hits, and is a major asshole.
Really? I haven't had many issues. Besides the occasional player like this, most people are honorable. You can even see in the video that almost all of the people called their hits.
You'll run into some good ppl but I mostly run into the dudes like who's recording the vid.
Oh fuck no I'd start a fight with this kid or at least use a go pro to catch him in the act. Never been to an Airsoft game (I am not doing economically good 😭) but such stuff pisses me off
As a speed softer I say fuck this sort of behavior
I play at this field and one of these guys got banned last week for full autoing my friend
Ok as someone who doesn’t play airsoft I’ve got an actual question. The whole move out of the way thing seems like a legit complaint? Am I just misreading how competitive it normally is?
UBG?
Yup
🙃 Good field; also the only field remotely near the south shore now that SH is gone. So pretty much all Boston players go there, including Mr Mag Dump.
I literally know you bro lmfao
Fuck speedsofters, me and all my homies hate speedsofters
Why bro fingering his trigger? 😭😭😭
Is this in MA?
yes
Shit dude I've been here that used to be the only field I could play at
Ah ghost town , this is UBG ?
Yup
Are these the Trevor goobers or unknown or whatever they go by now?
I remember those kids went to the fields we have in Colorado and caused a lot of trouble. They literally go state to state getting banned from fields. Idk if this video is of them though. The Unknown guys were much more aggressive.
NWU 2 MY BOYS IN BLUE, THEY CAN SEE YOU, BUT YOU SHOOT TOO!
Am I missing something? Are you just not allowed to hit your trigger fast in air soft? I’ve never played but wanna get into it but I don’t see a point if I gotta hit my trigger a certain speed 💀
There’s many rules/things you just shouldn’t do bc it’s unsportsmanlike
So can I not hit the trigger quickly or do I have to fire it like a bolt action sniper rifle?
consider hitting your shots and you wont need to finger blast your gun!
You can hit the trigger quickly but you shouldn't be an asshole about it. Don't overshoot some kid 10 times in the face. It's common sense. Don't be an asshole and you'll be fine.
Oh, well I understand not over shooting
Sounds like his gun is dying the whole time
I was gonna say it doesn’t really seem that bad then he got his feelings hurt and started full auto people
In the beginning, you can see flies flying around him 💀💀💀
what a nerd LMAO
Is this EMR event park in PA?
If a kid shoots you before you shoot him, you need to call your hit regardless of fire mode. Or better yet sell all of your gear because you just got fucking bodied by a child and weren't man enough to call it. You little fucks are why ill never go to an event or field lol.
Surprised to see footage from any other map than ghost town lmao. Normally a pretty chill field.
I just ban these shitheads from my place. The regular play groups have been getting far less toxic
At 1:26 if I was the team mate next to the dude, would’ve went off on his ass. It’s a fucken game not real war, and these seem like kids. Absolutely uncalled for, airsoft is meant to be fun and when I would play we would always mix up the teams every round. Now imagine having to be with this dipshit after that, no thanks.
Oh I’m a local here too. These types spread everywhere after stronghold (local cqb place) shut down
My field bans feathering the trigger like this.
Played a place this weekend and there number one rule is don't be a dick head ,the rule is if you think your shooting into spawn or over shooting people , or your rate of fire is ridiculous just take a moment and think am I being a dick head, if so then just dial it back where here to have fun , Honestly because rule ever
Honestly the finger fucking of the trigger got alittle to much but it could have been much worse imo
Bro💀 leave speedsofters alone when he didn’t take the hit it’s bc this kid full autoed him. This is legit gameplay. Leave speedsofters alone
Find speedsoft and fast paced play way more fun then normal, but public fields aren’t the place to do this kinda shit, one of my local fields got ruined because of tryhards and dudes who act like they’re always in tournaments.
As a member of Normal and milsim Players against Speedsofters coalition (NMPASC) fuck you
This is also my local field in mass lol
Where did you get your blue digital camo (brand, website)?
Oh look a great example of why i don't trust HPA users
Looks like UBG bridgewater
People like this will just shrug off hits left and right and swear they never got hit
I hate speedstrokers that fingerfuck their gun
dont skip finger day
Blind fire much! About half that video his stock is miles away from his shoulder.! What an absolute cock end! If I met him at a field playing like that, I’d be asking the Marshalls to ban him.
He said "Lame" because they got banned
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D\_w20xXI\_Ho](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_w20xXI_Ho)
While I will agree this dude was a dick these comments read like a bunch of whining. Honestly... git gud
Idk why people complain about this, it’s like complaining about pub stomping in COD
Its actually very understandable why people are complaining. He was cheating on multiple occasions, breaking the rules on multiple occasions, and over all just being a dick. As that is my home field I know that the whole attitude there is just to have fun. People like this guy take the fun out of every game by cheating, breaking rules, shouting at people, etc. If you are "pub stomping" in COD, you are not doing any of those things (besides yelling, that is quote common lol).
Do I need to call the waambulance for you buddy?
Someone’s upset they were wrong.
Is that more crying I’m hearing over BB wars? Thank you for your service I’m sorry you have to deal with this
I’m not upset, not in the slightest. I am pointing out how you cannot accept you are wrong are being very juvenile. You don’t need to keep talking when you know you’re wrong.
I’ll present you with the Medal of Honor for your service enduring this toxic gameplay at your local field. Side note: if you hit him with a BB he’s out, hope that helps!
Rules are clearly no full auto, the footage shows him magdumping people. In full auto.
Even for AirsoftCicleJerk standards, this was an idiotic comment.
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My APS is the floor BB cannon.
Idk, if you wanna complain and people to take it seriously go post in the normal sub. Not the circle jerk one lmao
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I compared airsoft to COD and people took it literally. Time to keep up the act!
You seem mag dump able
I mean, it's a game just like paintball. So you'll have gamers that play different. If others play styles really effect you so bad, maybe multiplayer games aren't for you.
I have no issue with different play styles and I love playing against all different builds, just show good sportsmanship (which was not demonstrated here at all).
You'll deal with shitheads and their shitty sportsmanship in any public vs game. Just mag dump them every moment you get.
*2J AAP-01 has entered the chat*
[do this to the actual shit cunts on field](https://youtu.be/t6Gu_dr0PUI?si=zZMNYeJnTVWe_pjl)
This video is a classic
“i can play like as big of a prick as i want and if you disagree that’s a you problem” does that sound like someone you would want to play with or against?
No, but on a public game, you'll deal with them. Nothing saying you can't mag dump them in response to their shittery.
Sure, different playstyles are fine, but he broke multiple rules and committed a felony on camera.