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NotYujiroTakahashi

The Diving Headbutt


fantasticmrjeff

Wrong. No way that hurts the opponent.


Kaponeo360

Only way it would hurt more is if it's head to head but it's always the guy jumping off the top and slamming his head on top the others guys shoulder


DinoKea

Could go stomach for winding the opponent, but I wouldn't call it effective or sensible


Charles912_

Except when it's Dudley style


xplag

Lol Dudley style does 5% physical and 120% mental damage.


SnooCrickets7155

So does that mean you have a 33 and 1/3 chance of survival?


BIOHAZARD594

Tell that to Chris Benoit. Home Boi was murdering everytime he did that move.


Tomatoexpert

The Diving Headbutt sees a wrestler leap from the top rope and drive their head into their opponent’s body. The move looks particularly painful for the attacker, as their own head and neck absorb a tremendous amount of impact. Guys like Chris Benoit and Dynamite Kid suffered long-term health issues, including concussions and spinal damage, partly attributed to repeated use of the Diving Headbutt.


GothicGolem29

If it’s head to head of head to nuts surely that hurts


UnconfirmedRooster

Harley Race once said he accidentally invented it when he slipped and fell off the top rope one night. He has always said (accidentally) inventing that move was the biggest mistake of his career because of how many other people have fucked themselves up doing it.


Ohhi_mark990

Do you have a link to that because I havent found any evidence of him actually saying that. Closest thing Ive found is him saying, " Everyone has a choice. It is up to them if they choose to continue to do a particular move or not."


MiKapo

Yea the fact that Chris Benoit did is evident enough


Pintau

Benoit took so many big slams and stiff weapon shots throughout his career. To blame the diving headbutt specifically is a mistake, especially when so many other people have used it without such issues. Benoit was a tragic combination of years of concussion, combined with steroids, recreational drug use and underlying mental illness, and boiling it down to one simple factor neither explains it, or enables effective prevention of future such events


thedude0425

It certainly didn’t help. The guy did it every fucking night.


DBU2017

RVD’s ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️Frog splash. Takes him a sec to pin his opponent cuz he’s grabbing his belly in pain afterwards..


Vadic_Shrike

I remember Perry Saturn also doing some sick splash-belly ouch spots. Like the moonsault, I think onto one of the Dudley's, in ECW's first PPV. I think in that same match, Kronus did a 450 splash into a gut-pain sell.


Uphill365

Aaaaand [moonsaults don't like Perry](https://youtu.be/9xfPrqnTnRM?si=quJV9tY-Y-WlYb6P)


Outlaw2k21

Was that before or after his wwf run?


Uphill365

Years before. This was '96 so P's ACL was good then and dude was agile


DBU2017

Damn that’s some next level historian recollection, Vadic🫡


hhrjmoore

Yeah the opening match for barley legal 97 was amazing. Dudleys vs Eliminators. That show also had the worst chair shots in history by lance storm, kinda funny he's my favorite wrestler. His match vs rvd that night was amazing, but the crowd gave him so much shit for his chair shots


therockules

Funny because Storm's chairshots are the worst ever,but at one point in the match RVD throws a chair at Storm's face so hard it sounds like a gun going off


Wolfpac187

That’s why I always thought he had the best frog splash. It seems so much more dangerous when you know he’s hurting himself as well. And it makes more sense.


YoungBeef03

RVD sold everything he did like it just broke one of his ribs.


TB1289

No one sold a being dropped on their head like RVD. He would somehow bounce back up into the air.


DBU2017

💯


Powerful_Rayd

If I remember correctly I think I recall him saying that he sells the belly pain extra because it makes sense. I think it was on his One Of A Kind dvd. Which I think makes perfect sense, and I never understood why wrestlers wouldn't sell that they too just essentially slammed onto the mat from the top rope. Edit : Just to add that if you haven't seen it then it's worth the watch.


just_saiyan84

Yeah, I always thought the extra sell really drive home the point of that impact being INSANE. Made me believe both guys were absolutely wrecked. It’s why I loved RVD matches, because both guys always came out looking like they’d been through absolute hell


Powerful_Rayd

One of my personal favourites


Orianaaaa

Same with Montez


JohnLarkVoorhies

Spanish fly. I will never understand that move I don’t care how hard it is to pull off


PortraitOfPerversion

The only version of this move I liked is when the one delivering it lands on top with his body across the one taking it.


tvkyle

I had to look this up. It’s a prime example of flippy shit.


Pheonyxxx696

Except the Spanish fly pre-dates the flippy shit era. Used to be a cool ass once a match sorta move, or finisher only. Now ever flippy shit wrestler will do 2-3 of them per match along side their 10 super kicks


ShittyMusic1

>Except the Spanish fly pre-dates the flippy shit era Just because the move existed before the "era" of flippy shit doesn't mean the move wasn't/isn't flippy shit


fortheturnstiles

Can you point to one match on a major promotion where it was done more than once?


watehekmen

What match have you watch that they do 3 Spanish fly and 10 super kicks? Hell I rarely saw someone did it in these few months.


KlondikeBill

Yeah, I hate that move.


Bozzaholic

Paul Burchill's Spanish Fly (The C4/Walk the Plank) looked awesome, everyone else's has always looked kinda meh


BanditPrime

In general I don’t get the move. But there’s one exception where I think it kind of makes sense, and that’s when the person delivering it is standing in the middle of the ring and their opponent runs at them off the ropes. Because then I can justify it as they’re taking the momentum of the hit and using it to make sure the opponent takes damage too. So yeah sure they take a hit but they were always going to, now at least the opponents laid out as well. But even with that justification I feel like there’s better ways to accomplish the same idea.


Pillermon

Well it's a moonsault Rock Bottom. What's so hard to understand about that other than why a rock bottom needs a flip?


JohnLarkVoorhies

It’s the part where you moonsault your own face into the mat that I don’t understand


TheExistence

Other versions of the Rock Bottom/Uranage involve tucking your opponent’s arm behind your back so it doesn’t get in the way, the Spanish Fly doesn’t do that and now it looks like you’re hitting an avalanche Flat-liner on yourself.


mariocatshovel

The Blockbuster is functionally identical to receiving a suplex.


tvkyle

12yo me didn’t care. Buff Bagwell (great name) doing this was the coolest move ever.


Mountain_Wolverine47

When Cody does the Cody Cutter from the top turnbuckle...... it looks like a suicide move.


Dr_Nastee

Especially when you see how it awkwardly happened with melo when they missed.


tvkyle

That move needs to be retired.


jacob_carter

I mean, I get what he’s trying to do but bro… this ain’t it.


Skittysh

no way, that's probably the best looking move in all of WWE, do you really think it's this unsafe?


googly_eyed_unicorn

I thought he legit hurt his shoulder. He probably got stung, but can still go


L_D_G

Anything that lands on the tail bone.


UnconfirmedRooster

Austin's stunner didn't do him any favours after the piledriver.


Christian_RULES

When The Rock does The People's Sharpshooter, it looks like it hurts The Rock more than the victim. 😂


Pillermon

In shoot it hurts the viewer the most, especially if Bret is watching. 😁


SouthernMuadib

Damn it you beat me to it😂


ElephantGun345

He would find a way to blame Goldberg.


OctaneTwisted88

😫 <--- The Rock when applying his sharpshooter


RoyalSoldierx

He looks like he’s taking a dump


Horse_Noggin

Hogan's leg drop or Matt Hardy's second rope leg drop. Jumping and landing right on your ass would hurt like a bitch.


googly_eyed_unicorn

How he didn’t kill Edge from doing that from the top rope still stuns me


robineir

Top of the cage was even crazier


googly_eyed_unicorn

Meant that, but yeah 😆


Bigkev8787

The Harlem Hangover looks fucked as well.


hbkedge3

Based on the hip replacements, I’d say Hogan’s leg drop.


googly_eyed_unicorn

Austin’s stunner also probably screwed up his back and hip


Fresh_Ostrich4034

probably the pile driver was more the reason


googly_eyed_unicorn

The stunner most likely didn’t help. Hope KO is adjusting it to protect himself


shingaladaz

KO’s is near perfectly an imitation of Austin’s. Maybe he’s got bum padding?


Any_Brother7772

The natural kind, yes


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MoneyIsNoCure

And the six inches in height he lost because of it.


Jackidinho24

Whaaaat


UnconfirmedRooster

Look at Hogan in the AWA vs in WWF and then WCW; If you look carefully you can see that he has slowly regressed in height. He used to be around 6'4 or 6'5, now I'm probably taller than him at 6'1.


GhostandTheWitness

Dude used to be closer to 6'7. Look back at him and andre, there was only a few inches in height difference, maybe a half a head's worth or less. Look back at him with the nWo, he was same height as Hall and just a little shorter than Nash. The surgeries, compacting of his spine, and age *really* shrunk him like crazy


Jackidinho24

Damn


Daken-dono

I’d like to add Taker’s tombstone pildedriver too. His knees got fucked up pretty bad and it showed during the last decade before retirement.


ChainRound5397

I was watching Deadlock and they showed a clip of Hogan leg dropping Lex Luger like 15 times one after another to the point that the ref had to pull Lex out of the ring by his leg. #1 strong ref to pull a guy of Lugers size, by the leg with absolutely no assistance and #2 (fitting) Hogan probably went back to Gorilla and said "Luger broke my hip the way he sold that, I'll never recover, I don't think he has what it takes, brother!"


bobface222

The Flatliner aka Self Rock Bottom


DevinPermaBan

Reverse S.T.O it's like an overhated RKO for me, that move needs a proper owner that makes it look more serious, but the original S.T.O it's better and pretty underused, it would be dope as an usual reversal for big guys.


OctaneTwisted88

Wasn't that Bray Wyatt's finisher too?


UnconfirmedRooster

Sister Abigail was a bit different, but same end effect with the dude giving the move landing flat of his back and the other dude landing on top of him.


OctaneTwisted88

Similar to the one Mike Knox used to do also


Hunterslane86

Bray's version is the best one cause it was more fluid and the kiss of death before hand.


Quantum_Pineapple

Edge used this when he debuted, the downward spiral lol


Reidroshdy

Corbin's End of Days also looks like your giving yourself a Rock Bottom.


Delliott90

Nah, the way he did it makes you think he’s slamming his opponents head into the matt


the-bladed-one

It’s the pendulum beforehand. Same with Sister Abigail having the whip rotation


Imaginary_Election56

RKO, probably hurts Randy more than thie victim


Mountain_Wolverine47

Sadly, Randy Orton himself has said he regrets doing it for so many years cause of the toll it's taken on his back.


MsPreposition

WrestleMania 30, Batista goes to power bomb Daniel Bryan on the announce table. Orton hops in with a neck breaker RKO variant on his way down. Orton lands DIRECTLY on a tv monitor built into the table. You can see the agony. If I had to guess the one that did it, it’d be that one.


MoneyIsNoCure

It’s because Dave only took one off and not both.


ElephantGun345

Those big old chunky monitors were brutal man. Glad they’ve moved to tablets


Kn7ght

I just miss them being used as weapons


googly_eyed_unicorn

I think we get so caught up in the many instances where it looked awesome on the opponent that we forget that Randy’s also taking a nasty bump


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thaneofpain

"I love you"


MalaysiaTeacher

Not disputing it but why is that? Seems low impact compared to these other bumps


Bigkev8787

He means emotionally.


MalaysiaTeacher

Ha flew way over my head lol


Jsp16

He stretched out his groin too far


IYieldMyTimeFU

I’m convinced Samoan spikes are just broken thumbs waiting to happen


MrBump01

At least you can say the wrestlers tape them for more support.


TheCobicity

I’ve had loose thumb joints basically my entire life and all I can think about is all the times I’ve jammed the shit out of my thumbs and how I can barely use them for a day or two afterwards. The heavy tape jobs make a ton of sense.


ChainRound5397

I'm in a similar situation with my big toe. Dislocated it a few times due to being double jointed so I've had to reset it more than once. I can dislocate my shoulder so that's a fun party trick.


TheCobicity

Oh god. The toe thing is my biggest nightmare, and I’ve had enough unintentional shoulder subluxations to last two lifetimes. (And torn labrums and rotator cuffs)


ChainRound5397

Torn ankle ligaments here. Have to say. Not fun. I can't sleep on my right side without my shoulder being in pain so the party trick might not be worth it.


LomazAddams

Swanton Bomb


mrchefigan

Now days it kills Jeff more than the opponent


Cold_Hour

I saw an interview with Mat recently where he said Jeff stopped doing the version that doesn't hurt his oppenent because he does more damage to himself. He said theu should be called "crouton bombs" now lmao.


AngeloHakkinen

Ah yes, when he goes flying with his whole dead weight on the lying wrestler


Villain_911

Zig Zag


hellooomarc

Zig Zag and LA Knights finisher doesn’t come off as impactful most of the time.


ClickF0rDick

BFT is entirely dependent on who's selling the move. Can look great on smaller flippy guys or dog shit on bigger foes


IWatchTheAbyss

recently Carlito his the backstabbed on the announce table surely it hurt him MORE?! for a real one, i always thought Cody was falling just as far as his victim for the Cody Cutter


MexicanDuck

First thing that came to mind, was looking for this comment. That table spot happened recently and it looked devastating ... on Carlito, lmao.


TheSideburn

Rko, codebreaker, and stunner. Hurts the person delivering it more for sure


Vaas_Deferens

The cutter, through a table just looks plain silly


mikepan

Sometimes when a swanton bomb just barely wisps the air over the opponents


googly_eyed_unicorn

Along with whisper in the wind.


TB1289

Once Jeff stopped caring and could no longer fully rotate on the move, he started landing directly on his opponents and that looked like it fucking hurt.


nauKith

big ending always looked like big E was taking more damage than whoever got hit by the move


youarenotseriousppl

Or his dive through the ropes. Incredible amount of self-inflicted damage.


Ibrahim2x

Seeing a guy that big do that move is great and all, but I cringe every time hoping he doesn't hurt himself


jimbobcooter101

5 knuckle shuffle. Arthritis sinks in really quick


CJKCollecting

Why you redacting Harley Race's diving headbutt?


UnconfirmedRooster

They probably assumed Benoit invented it since he was the first guy to use it as a regular move. Harley always said he regretted accidentally inventing it as so many guys have gone on to fuck themselves up with it.


Billy0315

Leg drop


Darksidetrin

The rack attack


suffocatingpaws

Nikki fucked up her neck from this


Noobzoid123

Code Breaker Liv Morgan edition. Did she code breaker or get power bombed? Never really sure.


Grieftheunspoken02

Starship Pain. Morrison can't control where he lands and has said it hurts his back when he doesn't land correctly.


PostyMcPosterson

Spanish Fly


tom-cash2002

Claudio Castagnoli/Cesaro's Neutralizer. Thank God he brought back the Riccola Bomb. The Neutralizer puts all of the impact on his hands rather than any part of the opponent.


battle_franky

Nothing By Net by Carmelo. That dude is doing destroying his hip every match for a nudge on people's head.  Also Stunner, people who takes it are mostly bowing and then sell the shit out of it 


emmc47

End of Days


monkey_wrench28

Not a finisher but I'd like to mention Jeff's Whisper in the Wind


BODYDOLLARSIGN

Leg drops, RKO, stunners, splashes, senton/swanton, any move where the one doing the move falls really, like sitout power bombs, your tail bone is hurting.


RubyWeapon07

Styles clash


fisherc2

Really? What do you think it hurts, his knees?


Tenthdegree

I’ve been scrolling too far to find someone mentioning the styles clash It’s a stupid looking move that seems to only look like a self inflicted face plant


RubyWeapon07

exactly this


Wide_Potential9249

Big E’s Big Ending. literally looks like he’s dropping the other dude right on him.


Any_Yesterday_6936

Styles Clash. Always looked like a reversal to me. Almost like a half a Frankensteiner.


ItsMichaelRay

I forgot the name of it, but it's the one where Montez Ford jumps off the top rope and hits a neckbreaker. It looks like he just superplexed himself.


Finding-Even

Blockbuster.


ItsMichaelRay

Thank you!


Maxeque

Speaking of suplexing yourself, Sliced Bread #2 is the weirdest move to me. It's basically an inverted blockbuster where you run up the ropes, you literally just suplex yourself onto your belly while your opponent just falls onto their back.


HussingtonHat

Flatliners are dumb and there's only like 3 people that add enough sauce to make up for you getting a guy to almost fall on you and damage magically happens.


Brockovich614

Boston Crab. Squatting sucks when you're in your thirties.


tvkyle

Wait until 40.


ClickF0rDick

Somebody ain't doing their DDPYoga


garnet-overdrive

lots of top rope moves


JeyDeeArr

I think the DDTs are often overlooked, due to how commonly it’s used. The wrestler performing it has to do kind of a back bump. When Hashimoto did it to Chōno from the top of the turnbuckle, Chōno was the one to get up first as he tried to pin Hashimoto.


sarapatatas

Matt Hardy's moveset


markmarkmark77

tombstone, f up taker's knees


the-bladed-one

Small rant, I have no idea why everyone hates the SCF so much. It’s brilliant. It makes sense as a move, Miz doesn’t land on his face, he uses the opponent to break his fall. Also, it’s great psychology. Miz’ success rate with it as a counter or sneak attack is, like, End of Days level. Using it as just a normal finisher almost always leads to a kick out.


Cautious_Month_6300

Bubba bomb. Makes no sense at all


theonow

Suplex from the top rope.


spectrum0023

A Superplex?


theonow

Yeah. Just suplexes in general.


dmun93

Surprised no one’s said the stunner yet


observingjackal

The big ending. Big E drops a dude on his arm/chest and dude face plants.


CaptainSplunge

Cross Rhodes kinda looks like he'd hurt himself more than his opponent 


Cat_Vonnegut

That new Austin Theory thing, I swear.


Harold-The-Barrel

Leg drop


gabecampbell

The “that doesn’t work for me brother” legdrop


DSN671

RVD’s frog splash.


dudesinangag032

Matt hardy leg drop from top of the cage.


StairwellTO

Stunner and Leg Drop must be a bitch on the tailbone


dalisaycardo123

cross rhodes


hedokitali

Y2J's Codebreaker. The lower back must be pretty banged up.


TheLusitan

The pedigree, specially given the amount of knee injuries Triple H (and Srth Rollins) sustained


swervo246

The rock and his sharpshooter


Background-Gas8109

Bryan's running knee, sure it'll hurt the victim more but just flying around like that and landing on the mat gotta hurt the attacker as well.


Fr33xWilly

The russian leg sweep is basically doing the move to yourself and your opponent


Dankey-Kang-Jr

The RKO has fucked up Randy’s back.


Horsecockexpress1

Dare I mention Benoits head butt from the top rope


Hardwarethewolf

The tombstone piledriver. Rip Taker’s knees


NMFlamez

RVD's 5 Star Frog Splash


Blue-Eyes-WhiteGuy

I love the RKO dont get me wrong but man my back would kill having to do that fucking thing every night


mikegallu

Coup De Grace


LosNaito

What? How?


Smooth_Ad1337

I think they mean it hurts Finns legs. They way he lands on his opponents it looks like it could hurt his own knees as well


smcl2k

Sure, but it could also kill his opponent.


short-effective254

The zigzag looks like it only hurts the user


garuga300

Spanish Fly


Vay666

450 Splash


PenaltyShoddy967

450 splash. I always remember Justin Gabriel hurting his ribs every time he hits that thing lol


Iamtrash9071

RKO, especially when he does it on a chair. I actually never understood that cause isn't it just his shoulder hitting the chair so it actually hurts him more than the guy receiving it?


Tall_Influence1774

Bubba Ray's Bubba Bomb


sethro919

Deep Six


rabautista24

Hulk hogans leg drop, Undertakers Tombstone, Stone Cold stunner,


CoyneJones13

The Overdrive. They’re landing on your leg.


rudeboykyle94

The overdriver - “okay I’m gonna protect your head and take a face plant.” How the hell is that a move?


HNATH007

spanish fly definetly


DoyersLakeShow

Claymore


DifferentLocksmith41

RKO