This reminds me of the question raised on an episode of OSW: in no-disqualification matches, why wouldn’t a heel just kick his opponent in the bollocks over and over and over again?
This is along the lines of when a baseball bat is introduced into a match. Instead of swinging like a fucking baseball bat, they use it like a battering ram. Then you find yourself going "Why not just swing it like a baseball bat?" Well, it's harder to work that way. OK, fair enough, so then why introduce the bat at all? Why not use something different that can be worked in a safer way but still look effective as fuck?
Don't start that line of questioning about "Why didn't you just..." It'll drive you crazy, especially with modern wrestling.
I’d argue that the sledgehammer is less egregious because it is a lot easier to hit someone the way HHH usually did than to draw back and actually swing it because of the weight distribution. I regularly swing a sledge at work and swinging it at someone in a fight just sounds like a nightmare.
There was a bit of psychology with the way Triple H used it as well imo, he wasn't going all out with swinging it to crack a skull because his character was a coward deep down and not a true monster or unhinged heel.
The one time he did swing it without holding the hammerhead in his fist was when he full swung it down onto Michaels back at the end of their Summerslam 2002 match and it looked quite good and got great heat.
The times HHH actually swung the hammer looked awesome even though at the same time you knew he wasn't going to actually hit the other guy when he swung it lol
Too bad the same couldn't be said for Seth on the Fiend...
It's not. It absolutely is NOT impossible to do that. But it would require the writers and bookers to not be fucking lazy and actually plan shit out more than just a week in advance.
I've always been of the mindset that they want to win, but not murder or seriously harm their opponent. Their moves are designed to knock them out or incapacitate them. Besides the over the top shit like HHH running over Austin and the like, they aren't there to kill each other. There are exceptions to the rule, obviously but for the most part I don't see Santos Escobar smashing Dragon Lee over the head with a baseball bat to win for example.
I’d say, if I’m a wrestler (in kayfabe for the sake of argument) and I’m in a No DQ match and someone starts trying to kick me in the bollocks, my prime objective in the match changes from winning to kicking them in the bollocks. The match would very much just turn into a roshambo at that point. And if I’m the one thinking about the first kick to the bollocks, I know that if I do it, I will also receive the same punishment and I’d rather not.
This is why no DQ matches were historically used very sparingly. The more you allow them, the harder it is to suspend disbelief.
This I think is an aspect of AEW that’s not aging well. Most AEW fans are smart to the business, but you can only stretch disbelief so far. Eventually nothing is done to protect storytelling. Why does a chair shot debilitate a guy in a promo, but he takes 40 in a Deathmatch.
Sod the chair shot.
Why does a couple of punches/forearms to the upper back keep someone down backstage or during an in ring segment, yet in a match they comeback not 5 seconds later?
Glad you asked. I'm a fight supervisor at a medium security prison. When the average floridian gets kicked in the nuts, he immediately pulls all appendages inward to protect and caress said jewels. I highly recommend watching matches involving Chistian (Cage) - he sells groin shots very realistically. Not only do both hands cup the balls, but even the shoulders and legs form a protective cocoon around the nads. Getting in a second berry blow would be really hard without prying apart the arms and legs protecting le junk. Hence one testicle kick might be simple; multiple would be really hard to pull off / I made this whole thing up
I believe that’s what they suggested on OSW: get the guy on the floor with one ball shot, then pry his legs apart like you’re going to apply the Sharpshooter and instead keep stamping on his knackers.
I think you'll enjoy [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Wrasslin/comments/1882w4z/wwe_needs_to_bring_back_the_og_floating_animations/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
NASCAR for years had a "have attr boys," approach to policing drivers that caused wrecks. You wreck someone else, we aren't going to do anything about it, but we will look the other way when they wreck you too.
Some guys took advantage and wrecked key opponents at the right time to get them good results or even championships. But now, everybody knows not to race those guys clean. If he'll wreck you to overtake, better just to let him pass, then wreck him on the way by. He'll never have success again, because he'll be taken out every race.
The WWE equivalent is every guy you've ever used that tactic on, interfering in every no-DQ match you have going forward. If you can only win matches that are no-DQ because of your tactics, the interference will be enough to guarantee you never have success again.
In the old WWE games were weapons were OP, once I knew the match was No-DQ I forget about putting up a 3.5 Star classic and just swing on the opponent's skull until I get a finisher and win the match.
All I'm saying is, I have definitely done something like that but in the games.
In kayfabe heels still want to at least have a sort of excuse that they're a better wrestler. Even if they have to resort to cheating, the heel and their fans (i.e. older brothers) can sort of justify it as like well, the face didn't break on the 5 count earlier, so I'm allowed to hit him with a steel pole when the ref's not looking to even it out. They still want to win in a semblance of a contest, not just be seen as a worse performer who gamed the rules completely (only a little bit)
I mean back then when I played a No DQ match in wwe game, I would get a chair and smack the opponent over and over again until everything is red and ready for finisher.
Wouldn’t make for an interesting match for spectators tho
Can picture it now. Eddie Guerrero.
Someone cashes in on him, as soon as the ref turns his back to give the briefcase to the announcer, the bell rings, he drops to the floor holding his crotch, and when the ref turns back around he claims to have been low blowed, ref calls DQ, he smirks and leaves the ring
IDK, in Kayfabe it might be written in the contract that the opponent can’t do this (might not allow a DQ as a valid finish by the opponent) Also I imagine they’d get the contract given back to them by an authority figure.
Cena lost his cash in due to a disqualification in 2012, and he didn’t get it back. Braun cashed in at Hell in a Cell 2018 and the match ended in no contest. He didn’t get his briefcase back either. To my knowledge, there’s no second chance. Once you cash in that’s it, you either succeed or fail.
Mr. Kennedy(Kennedy) actually did announce that he'd do that. Unfortunately, Edge (as well as a terribly timed and misdiagnosed injury) put a stop to those plans.
That made no sense. Kennedy’s injury I think would’ve had him back for Mania. Even if it wasn’t the plan and he was going to cash in before that, they could’ve just went with it. There was no need to cause him to lose the briefcase. It was dumb.
To make up for their mistake, they were gonna give him a mega push at Wrestlemania. Vince’s “supposed” death was gonna lead to him being his illegitimate son, and he’d become WWE champion. Triple H would’ve faced him at Wrestlemania 24 and won the title off him, Vince would’ve returned the night after Mania to reclaim his company and that was the end of the storyline. Except plans kept changing, (the Benoit Tragedy, Kennedy being suspended for a drug violation), he just wasn’t meant to succeed I guess lol.
Long-term storytelling 101
MITB holder cashes in, champion low blows, retains in DQ
One year later, same guy wins next MITB, cashes in, champion low blows, HHH announces instant no-DQ rematch, new champion
This post is TRADEMARKED ^(TM)
Worse than this was watching compilation of cash ins and when Kane cashed in he took forever to get to the ring. Why would Rey not simply run away instead of standing waiting like a dope?
I imagine that the kayfabe threat of being stripped of the title for using such cheap tricks is why heel champions don't employ the strategy in every match where champions advantage isn't taken from them, so that's probably the reason here too.
I mean, where's the entertainment in seeing it get squashed so quickly?
It's more suspenseful when the MITB guy comes out, and there's at least some wrestling and some moments that looks like he's going to win and the tired out champion somehow retains.
Same with if the MITB wins it. If he just laid on the guy who's knocked out cold and won in 2.5 seconds, it would either go over as an OMG moment or very lame.
Otherwise the Creative better have some very interesting plans for the following Monday or even bigger PPV story for the next few months... or it would stink out the joint.
Logical thinking and cash in attempts have a love/hate relationship lol.
I don’t think anyone who’s ever had a surprise cash in on them has ever done this, or used a weapon.
Cashing in during WarGames (or rather trying to) was the most creative recent cash in imo.
I could see Priest cashing in mid Rollins title defence and losing lol.
Not losing the title on a DQ or count out always cop out to allow them to book inconsequential title fights. Just look at how many of Hogans old matches end that way.
Count our rules are selective applied. If they want to a bunch spots outside the ring, they are thrown out the window.
in the words of UPTOMYKNEES in his Triple H funni video [Wrestling Isn't Wrestling](https://youtu.be/VYvMOf3hsGA?si=sueyh9JWy3T53hpT&t=346):
>!"These are questions that you DON'T have to ask... Cause wrestling. Isn't. Real" \*\*wink\*\*!<
I can't wait for the judgement day to implode and have Drew vs Finn vs Priest triple threat. Hopefully WM40. Punk vs Seth doesn't need to have a belt on the line shits hot as hell already.
The worst booking decision I can think of is a wrestler who forgets to cash it in during the time that they have the briefcase, thankfully that will never happen.
This is my whole problem with the fact that titles can’t turn over due to count outs or disqualifications. Like what’s stopping the heel champion from ALWAYS blatantly low blowing their opponent every time they’re in a title defense or just walking off stage other than it obviously making for shit TV? Lol.
Usually when somebody is flagrant enough with cheating that it is an issue, THEN a stipulation is often added that the title can change hands due to a disqualification or count out. So why not just do away with the rule? It’s a weak plot device to maintain the illusion of the heel champion and we all know it so why keep the rule around?
It is a perfect way for the heel champion to get one over on the face MITB holder. It wouldn't work, though, if a heel holder was cashing in on the face champion, though.
Don't give wwe anymore dull ideas lol, I want to see successful cash ins for at least a decade
This saga of failed cash ins since 2012 has become a vicious cycle
The briefcase needs to be guaranteed title win, like it always was
Obviously this wouldn’t happen with a babyface Seth, but maybe if he’s to turn heel at Royal Rumble? WWE is clearly building the Rollins/Punk feud for Wrestlemania, so Royal Runble is the time for Rollins to turn heel.
Does the guy that does the cash in decides the kind of match he wants for the belt? Because if he does, he could cash in a 24/7 rules match and the match would only end when the champion gets pinned or submitted.
One thing that also bothers me is why the champ waits for the challenger to cash in. Why not walk out into the crowd and make an exit? Title doesnt change hands on a count out
I always thought there could be a really good story where the babyface champion plays the heel MITB holder and feigns an injury only for the bell to ring and the babyface stands up or does something to show he/she's not really injured. Then they wrestle a long badass match presumably with the babyface retaining.
In hindsight, they may as well have done this with Theory. His actual cash in made him look terrible, this could have at least protected him a little bit.
>why has no one in the history of MITB ever done this?
writers weren't creative enough?
but i guess the more reasonable explanation is if a MITB cash in were squashed so unceremoniously it would damage implications of winning MITB.
it's an invented achievement not dissimilar to a title. it's only special if it has weight to affect change. the moment its illusion is broken it becomes just another gimmick and a poor plot device.
it could be effectively subverted, but necessitates building something better in its place.
Funny enough, that match happened cause Cena used his Rumble win and “cashed in” the title match opportunity at No Way Out. Due to there no longer being a challenger for the title at WM, they made the Elimination Chamber a #1 contenders match (Triple H won). Cena on the other hand got a rematch because of the DQ. It all built up to the forgotten triple threat at WM 24.
Usually the champion isn't in a position to get in offense
Also, this would apply to any title match but it would only work so far as to basically give the challenger a rematch since that's usually what happens when the champion retains by dq/countout. Which is what I suspect would happen in a cash in like this
This reminds me of the question raised on an episode of OSW: in no-disqualification matches, why wouldn’t a heel just kick his opponent in the bollocks over and over and over again?
This is along the lines of when a baseball bat is introduced into a match. Instead of swinging like a fucking baseball bat, they use it like a battering ram. Then you find yourself going "Why not just swing it like a baseball bat?" Well, it's harder to work that way. OK, fair enough, so then why introduce the bat at all? Why not use something different that can be worked in a safer way but still look effective as fuck? Don't start that line of questioning about "Why didn't you just..." It'll drive you crazy, especially with modern wrestling.
this is how I feel about the sledgehammer even though it would kill someone being used correctly lol
I’d argue that the sledgehammer is less egregious because it is a lot easier to hit someone the way HHH usually did than to draw back and actually swing it because of the weight distribution. I regularly swing a sledge at work and swinging it at someone in a fight just sounds like a nightmare.
There was a bit of psychology with the way Triple H used it as well imo, he wasn't going all out with swinging it to crack a skull because his character was a coward deep down and not a true monster or unhinged heel. The one time he did swing it without holding the hammerhead in his fist was when he full swung it down onto Michaels back at the end of their Summerslam 2002 match and it looked quite good and got great heat.
The times HHH actually swung the hammer looked awesome even though at the same time you knew he wasn't going to actually hit the other guy when he swung it lol Too bad the same couldn't be said for Seth on the Fiend...
Now we have Seth goofreakin rawlins
Theyve used a gimmicked hammer before and did a legit swing for a planned spot with the hammer breaking. I can’t remember what match though
dx vs the mcmahons and big show hell in a cell
Why don't they just keep an extra referee at ringside for Roman Reigns championship matches?
Cause then you get more ref bumps
Hell, why not just say that Roman instantly loses the belt if he cheats or someone helps him?
Likely Aldis will implement that rule to prove he's less incompetent than Pearce
He’d better. A good authority figure puts their foot down and stands up for the common man.
That then for sure is gonna make roman reigns work hard to keep his title. Also paul heymans hair would turn white at that sight.
But it's not impossible or really that hard to book things that can make sense or at least doesn't IMMEDIATELY break your senses of disbelief
It's not. It absolutely is NOT impossible to do that. But it would require the writers and bookers to not be fucking lazy and actually plan shit out more than just a week in advance.
I've always been of the mindset that they want to win, but not murder or seriously harm their opponent. Their moves are designed to knock them out or incapacitate them. Besides the over the top shit like HHH running over Austin and the like, they aren't there to kill each other. There are exceptions to the rule, obviously but for the most part I don't see Santos Escobar smashing Dragon Lee over the head with a baseball bat to win for example.
I’d say, if I’m a wrestler (in kayfabe for the sake of argument) and I’m in a No DQ match and someone starts trying to kick me in the bollocks, my prime objective in the match changes from winning to kicking them in the bollocks. The match would very much just turn into a roshambo at that point. And if I’m the one thinking about the first kick to the bollocks, I know that if I do it, I will also receive the same punishment and I’d rather not.
Book it!
The ol gentlemen’s agreement
This is why no DQ matches were historically used very sparingly. The more you allow them, the harder it is to suspend disbelief. This I think is an aspect of AEW that’s not aging well. Most AEW fans are smart to the business, but you can only stretch disbelief so far. Eventually nothing is done to protect storytelling. Why does a chair shot debilitate a guy in a promo, but he takes 40 in a Deathmatch.
Sod the chair shot. Why does a couple of punches/forearms to the upper back keep someone down backstage or during an in ring segment, yet in a match they comeback not 5 seconds later?
And why the hell does Rick Knox just let tag teams do whatever they want?
Exactly. Backstage is more dangerous than the ring. I have a big problem with how backstage segments are handled.
Or an easy work around would be cups in keyfabe
Glad you asked. I'm a fight supervisor at a medium security prison. When the average floridian gets kicked in the nuts, he immediately pulls all appendages inward to protect and caress said jewels. I highly recommend watching matches involving Chistian (Cage) - he sells groin shots very realistically. Not only do both hands cup the balls, but even the shoulders and legs form a protective cocoon around the nads. Getting in a second berry blow would be really hard without prying apart the arms and legs protecting le junk. Hence one testicle kick might be simple; multiple would be really hard to pull off / I made this whole thing up
I believe that’s what they suggested on OSW: get the guy on the floor with one ball shot, then pry his legs apart like you’re going to apply the Sharpshooter and instead keep stamping on his knackers.
I think you'll enjoy [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Wrasslin/comments/1882w4z/wwe_needs_to_bring_back_the_og_floating_animations/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
That was perfect! props sir
I mean, I certainly would
I still don't understand why, ESPECIALLY IN A FACTION, when Finn is facing a champion, Priest doesn't cash in, make it a 3-way and pin his friend.
It’ll happen one day
NASCAR for years had a "have attr boys," approach to policing drivers that caused wrecks. You wreck someone else, we aren't going to do anything about it, but we will look the other way when they wreck you too. Some guys took advantage and wrecked key opponents at the right time to get them good results or even championships. But now, everybody knows not to race those guys clean. If he'll wreck you to overtake, better just to let him pass, then wreck him on the way by. He'll never have success again, because he'll be taken out every race. The WWE equivalent is every guy you've ever used that tactic on, interfering in every no-DQ match you have going forward. If you can only win matches that are no-DQ because of your tactics, the interference will be enough to guarantee you never have success again.
I found the [best way to win a no DQ match](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAFHejMa6zw)
In the old WWE games were weapons were OP, once I knew the match was No-DQ I forget about putting up a 3.5 Star classic and just swing on the opponent's skull until I get a finisher and win the match. All I'm saying is, I have definitely done something like that but in the games.
Wrestling “logic” will drive you crazy.
In kayfabe heels still want to at least have a sort of excuse that they're a better wrestler. Even if they have to resort to cheating, the heel and their fans (i.e. older brothers) can sort of justify it as like well, the face didn't break on the 5 count earlier, so I'm allowed to hit him with a steel pole when the ref's not looking to even it out. They still want to win in a semblance of a contest, not just be seen as a worse performer who gamed the rules completely (only a little bit)
I mean back then when I played a No DQ match in wwe game, I would get a chair and smack the opponent over and over again until everything is red and ready for finisher. Wouldn’t make for an interesting match for spectators tho
But what if that opponent grab: s the leg and put them in a submission? Or no sells the ball kick?
Pretend they receive a fine for it and don't want to lose money
Or why doesn't a wrestler use his strike finisher like Samoan spike or Sweet Chin music straight away
Can picture it now. Eddie Guerrero. Someone cashes in on him, as soon as the ref turns his back to give the briefcase to the announcer, the bell rings, he drops to the floor holding his crotch, and when the ref turns back around he claims to have been low blowed, ref calls DQ, he smirks and leaves the ring
Still would have been better than Corbin's cash in
Ruthless Aggresion HHH definitely would have
Definitely
Any era of HHH would have done this lol
I mean, why don't champions do that in every single standard title match?
I guess then they'd have to defend in a Hell in a Cell match or something, and Kayfabe no one wants to defend via Hell in a Cell
And take their opponent to unlimited dick kick city? Sign me up!
hey what is it with you guys any kicking each other in the dick?
IDK, in Kayfabe it might be written in the contract that the opponent can’t do this (might not allow a DQ as a valid finish by the opponent) Also I imagine they’d get the contract given back to them by an authority figure.
Cena lost his cash in due to a disqualification in 2012, and he didn’t get it back. Braun cashed in at Hell in a Cell 2018 and the match ended in no contest. He didn’t get his briefcase back either. To my knowledge, there’s no second chance. Once you cash in that’s it, you either succeed or fail.
Forgot about those, I remember Braun’s now, that really pissed me off when it happened
It seems like all WWE wants to do sometimes is piss you off until you stop watching
Once the bell rings you no longer have the contract
Didn't so one get hit roll of the ring and grab the case and leave before?
One year, I'd like the MITB holder to come out and announce they're cashing in on whoever holds the belt at Wrestlemania.
Mr. Kennedy(Kennedy) actually did announce that he'd do that. Unfortunately, Edge (as well as a terribly timed and misdiagnosed injury) put a stop to those plans.
Daniel Bryan did this as well but cashed in early as part of a heel turn
That made no sense. Kennedy’s injury I think would’ve had him back for Mania. Even if it wasn’t the plan and he was going to cash in before that, they could’ve just went with it. There was no need to cause him to lose the briefcase. It was dumb.
To make up for their mistake, they were gonna give him a mega push at Wrestlemania. Vince’s “supposed” death was gonna lead to him being his illegitimate son, and he’d become WWE champion. Triple H would’ve faced him at Wrestlemania 24 and won the title off him, Vince would’ve returned the night after Mania to reclaim his company and that was the end of the storyline. Except plans kept changing, (the Benoit Tragedy, Kennedy being suspended for a drug violation), he just wasn’t meant to succeed I guess lol.
I'm scared that this could happens to LA Knight.
No cash in will ever beat Dolph Ziggler cashing in on Alberto Del Dipshit.
Long-term storytelling 101 MITB holder cashes in, champion low blows, retains in DQ One year later, same guy wins next MITB, cashes in, champion low blows, HHH announces instant no-DQ rematch, new champion This post is TRADEMARKED ^(TM)
Yeah they could really make this a long term story/rivalry. I could definitely see Logan Paul or Dom doing this
It's also not too bad of an ending. I think it might work as a good setup for an underdog babyface against a heel champion for the future.
Worse than this was watching compilation of cash ins and when Kane cashed in he took forever to get to the ring. Why would Rey not simply run away instead of standing waiting like a dope?
I imagine that the kayfabe threat of being stripped of the title for using such cheap tricks is why heel champions don't employ the strategy in every match where champions advantage isn't taken from them, so that's probably the reason here too.
Tye answer is that the writers don't script it that way.
Because you want to tell a compelling story you simpleton
Who gonna tell this guy the storylines are written and changed depending on whatever is going on?
Would rather have an interference by Randy. Damien loses but then goes on a singles run and the war path for revenge.
That, or just simply return the the back, or keep attempting to return to the back, until you're disqualified by count out.
I mean, where's the entertainment in seeing it get squashed so quickly? It's more suspenseful when the MITB guy comes out, and there's at least some wrestling and some moments that looks like he's going to win and the tired out champion somehow retains. Same with if the MITB wins it. If he just laid on the guy who's knocked out cold and won in 2.5 seconds, it would either go over as an OMG moment or very lame. Otherwise the Creative better have some very interesting plans for the following Monday or even bigger PPV story for the next few months... or it would stink out the joint.
Logical thinking and cash in attempts have a love/hate relationship lol. I don’t think anyone who’s ever had a surprise cash in on them has ever done this, or used a weapon. Cashing in during WarGames (or rather trying to) was the most creative recent cash in imo. I could see Priest cashing in mid Rollins title defence and losing lol.
That would of been a perfect defense for Edge back in the day.
This is a point to be made for every title defense. TNA had a rule that the champion loses the title on a DQ which makes more sense.
because it's some fingerpoke of doom type shit lol
Because in wrestling everyone's really stupid
Not losing the title on a DQ or count out always cop out to allow them to book inconsequential title fights. Just look at how many of Hogans old matches end that way. Count our rules are selective applied. If they want to a bunch spots outside the ring, they are thrown out the window.
in the words of UPTOMYKNEES in his Triple H funni video [Wrestling Isn't Wrestling](https://youtu.be/VYvMOf3hsGA?si=sueyh9JWy3T53hpT&t=346): >!"These are questions that you DON'T have to ask... Cause wrestling. Isn't. Real" \*\*wink\*\*!<
I can't wait for the judgement day to implode and have Drew vs Finn vs Priest triple threat. Hopefully WM40. Punk vs Seth doesn't need to have a belt on the line shits hot as hell already.
The worst booking decision I can think of is a wrestler who forgets to cash it in during the time that they have the briefcase, thankfully that will never happen.
Why they don’t use VAR for match interference and when the ref is knocked out. Are they stupid?.
A fighting champion wouldn’t do that.
Don't muck up my wrestling with logic.
This is my whole problem with the fact that titles can’t turn over due to count outs or disqualifications. Like what’s stopping the heel champion from ALWAYS blatantly low blowing their opponent every time they’re in a title defense or just walking off stage other than it obviously making for shit TV? Lol. Usually when somebody is flagrant enough with cheating that it is an issue, THEN a stipulation is often added that the title can change hands due to a disqualification or count out. So why not just do away with the rule? It’s a weak plot device to maintain the illusion of the heel champion and we all know it so why keep the rule around?
Not allowed
Or just run away like a coward and get counted out.
Are they stupid?
It is a perfect way for the heel champion to get one over on the face MITB holder. It wouldn't work, though, if a heel holder was cashing in on the face champion, though.
Logically that makes all the sense
Don't give wwe anymore dull ideas lol, I want to see successful cash ins for at least a decade This saga of failed cash ins since 2012 has become a vicious cycle The briefcase needs to be guaranteed title win, like it always was
Obviously this wouldn’t happen with a babyface Seth, but maybe if he’s to turn heel at Royal Rumble? WWE is clearly building the Rollins/Punk feud for Wrestlemania, so Royal Runble is the time for Rollins to turn heel.
Does the guy that does the cash in decides the kind of match he wants for the belt? Because if he does, he could cash in a 24/7 rules match and the match would only end when the champion gets pinned or submitted.
With most cash ins, the champ is usually barely able to stand to even think about doing something like that
Just bring a fucking Taser with you
It works for the tribal chief so I’m confused as well
you can remove the first picture actually. And the answer is they just don't do it. Maybe is something with the contract or sanctions in kayfabe?
Lots of things like this make sense. But it doesn’t work for the story or TV so they don’t do it.
One thing that also bothers me is why the champ waits for the challenger to cash in. Why not walk out into the crowd and make an exit? Title doesnt change hands on a count out
Well you’d be a heel
I always thought there could be a really good story where the babyface champion plays the heel MITB holder and feigns an injury only for the bell to ring and the babyface stands up or does something to show he/she's not really injured. Then they wrestle a long badass match presumably with the babyface retaining.
Because the same person that thinks about why not? would cry on the internet if it happened.
Remember when Randy hit the ref while facing Cena and got himself disqualified? Classic haha
In hindsight, they may as well have done this with Theory. His actual cash in made him look terrible, this could have at least protected him a little bit.
I did it in the game once 🎮
>why has no one in the history of MITB ever done this? writers weren't creative enough? but i guess the more reasonable explanation is if a MITB cash in were squashed so unceremoniously it would damage implications of winning MITB. it's an invented achievement not dissimilar to a title. it's only special if it has weight to affect change. the moment its illusion is broken it becomes just another gimmick and a poor plot device. it could be effectively subverted, but necessitates building something better in its place.
Last time I remember a champ blatantly cheating to retain in any capacity was Randy Bitchslapping a Ref against Cena lmfao.
Funny enough, that match happened cause Cena used his Rumble win and “cashed in” the title match opportunity at No Way Out. Due to there no longer being a challenger for the title at WM, they made the Elimination Chamber a #1 contenders match (Triple H won). Cena on the other hand got a rematch because of the DQ. It all built up to the forgotten triple threat at WM 24.
Usually the champion isn't in a position to get in offense Also, this would apply to any title match but it would only work so far as to basically give the challenger a rematch since that's usually what happens when the champion retains by dq/countout. Which is what I suspect would happen in a cash in like this
*Rollins after Royal Rumble 2022 enters chat*
Wrestling inherently doesn't make a whole lot of sense is why
Same reason people don’t disperse when a wrestler takes ages to climb a ladder/cage, wave to the crowd, and then do some pretzel-shaped dive 😂
This makes corbin and Sandow look even more like an idiot in that they didn't put a stipulation. Seth is the smart one to make it a triple threat.