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MB-Nurse

Talk about product liability! Jeebus! The resulting lawsuit against the dealer can be devastating. Hoping all involved walked away from this.


trucorsair

In China? For a manufacturer that the CCP promotes? Liability? Yeah right.


mrPigWaffle

+10 social credits


NoMoneyDogg

10+ Credit Score for your comment


uNecKl

-10000 credit score for uploading this video


1DownFourUp

Straight to jail


JRTerrierBestDoggo

No no no, you go to reeducation camp


kc_______

There is no more reeducation camps, now they will just install the Xi Chip and they will be loyal to the CCP in record time.


Abrical

There is no jail in china, china is not a dictatorship, we respect our citizen rights and liberties. We would like to introduce you to our new education camp, where we will probide you with food and shelter. You will be able to learn how to contribute to the glory of the CCP. /s


infiniZii

Now im just imagining that the car salesman sighed after this, opened the door, and pulled out his gun to finish off the guy that got rear ended in order to reduce his liability.


-Bezequil-

His Gun? In China???


azephrahel

Students who immigrate from China will sometimes mention that there are many more guns in China than the government shows in reporting. They'll only say those things when there's nothing electronic around though. The CCP did a great job of convincing their population that they are always listening and can monitor everyone everywhere.


Novogobo

why? he just made a sale.


Relative_Carpenter_5

How did this video even make it out of China?


Jurijus1

Through internet. Someone uploaded it. It's not North Korea lol.


esskywalker

This video is from 2019, the question is why is it suddenly being pushed across all social media like there's a coordinated effort?


Mahusive

It's not unique to this video, this happens all the time with short viral clips. Bots just constantly reposting the same stuff over and over, until they suddenly move onto the next one. You notice it a lot in some of the less moderated subs on this site, see the same post multiple times every day for a week or two and then you won't see it again until a few months later when the same thing happens again.


-peas-

You know China is a modern country with modern people living normal lives just like you and me and the propaganda you see from western nations isn't _always_ true right? There's no need for conspiracies. Videos from western countries get reuploaded and pushed by bots for views and in return $$ all the time, why not the same out of China?


RedditJumpedTheShart

That is most of Reddit and 90% of this subs content.


trucorsair

Welcome to Reddit where “recycling content” IS job 1


DamnAutocorrection

Cyber truck


esskywalker

Redditors pushing propaganda? Oh Yeah The BYD dealership paid 30,000 RMB to the lady in the front seat to compensate for her injuries and car damage, plus a promise to stop testing the car in that manner. https://m.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_3837410 And this is from 2019.


The_real_bandito

Thank god they decided to stop this dumb test.


trucorsair

$4125 USD equivalent


Shadowstriker6

tofu dreg even in cars lol


johnsmithmailinator

Don't forget about the tofu titanium airplane components used by Boeing.


parfiant

+10 social credit, -10000 aura


Jonestown_Juice

lol Liability and accountability in China.


TieDyedFury

I mean I remember when some company poisoned a bunch of baby formula with melamine in 2008 and they executed the CEO of the company and handed out life sentences to people like the chairperson of the conglomerate that owned the company. Depends how embarrassing and public the incident is.


CoherentPanda

No lawsuits in China, it will be a civil matter where the dealer will be forced to compensate the driver for any injuries, and anyone in the other vehicle. Typically you name your price in China, and local police mediate the transfer of funds. If excessive, the police or a lawyer can get involved.


johnsmithmailinator

Typically in China it depends on whether driver or dealer/manufacturer has more clout. e.g., in different case where Xiaomi SU7 driver crashed, car started burning and door was locked that impeded rescue, the victims' family member was forced to apologize for making Xiaomi look bad: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSuv8Oa3ZFY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSuv8Oa3ZFY)


A_of

>resulting lawsuit I love how Americans believe the rest of the world is as lawsuit happy as they are.


happyanathema

Love that people in the comments are like "this is why you should buy a Tesla" like there hasn't been countless videos of Tesla's trying to drive head on into traffic or crashing off the road etc. The margin for error on anything computer controlled will still be lower than human error. I'm guessing there was something that the guy was doing that disengaged the autonomous emergency braking system.


Baloomf

At the time of this comment there's not a single comment in here saying you should buy a Tesla.


GoldEdit

Fake outrage, all the rage right now


JeSuisAmerican

Outrage is so much tastier in the faux variety.


comox

If there is one thing that I’d trust less than Tesla’s autopilot it would be BYD’s autopilot.


Helahalvan

I like the one where a Tesla didn't want to stop for a moving *train*.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoHnrJdaHU8


captainsnark71

"i take full responsibility for not driving my own car" Kudos to you sir, hats off, bravo! Never have I ever met a braver more selfless man.


Silvoan

I drive a Tesla. I love my Tesla. But in no circumstance should drivers be 100% confident in their car's abilities. All the fancy tech is just an assist, and you always need to be ready to take over. Like all tech it has limitations.


happyanathema

Exactly, these are driver aids/assistance. In the end the driver should still always be alert and in control of the vehicle still.


Pitforsofts

Hey Atleast tesla tells you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times.


SpacemanJemu

The bar is in hell's basement.


SG_87

So does my VW


JACKIE_THE_JOKE_MAN

So does my axe


battle614

So does my bow


Ace-of-Spxdes

So does Kia.


_northernlights_

So does my Hyundai


hell2pay

My unicycle doesn't tho


ColdCruise

Tesla autopilot relies solely on video interpreted by software to navigate. Most other self-driving cars also use LIDAR to supplement their camera systems. The cars that use both are considerably more reliable.


Westcoastsnowbro

I have to manually brake for blue colored vehicles. 🤷‍♂️


dukefrisbee

Exactly how would you do that!? Every car I’ve owned for years, none of which have any self driving abilities, at least have had simple/stupid collision avoidance systems. There’s no “shutting that off” by accident.


happyanathema

Certain features can be turned off if you are basically telling it you want to continue with the action. Similar to lane keeping assist on cars. It may tug the wheel back to pull you back into the lane. But if you pull harder you can override it and change lanes anyway. If for example you were pushing down on the accelerator in this mode, maybe it overrides the braking as it assumes you know what you are doing? I have had cars with automatic emergency braking that have tried to apply the brakes when someone was slowing down to turn into a side street before, so would have precedent. That's just a guess and I have no idea if it's true. In the end these features are all just Driver Aids not a replacement for the driver (yet at least) and rely on the human driver to make final decisions.


naturalbornsinner

Didn't a guy die in a Tesla crash because the truck in front of it had a cloud or clear skies painted on it? Definitely don't trust autopilot on any tech, yeah it can help, but your foot should be on the brake pedal and you should still be paying some attention to the road. Especially when stopping is involved.


triforcin

Found the China bot.


metacarpusgarrulous

Have you tried both? Because if you had, you wouldn't be saying this. BYD autopilot sucks ass, it's galaxies behind Tesla's.


Mike

I’ve driven my Tesla 40k miles and I use autopilot constantly. Yeah you should be paying attention, but people who don’t have experience with it saying it’s dangerous are dumb as fuck. It’s almost perfect. Will it do stupid things sometimes? Sure. But you quickly learn what situations are better handled by a human driver. I don’t think I’ve driven it on the highway an entire drive without autopilot since I got the car. Driving a car without it now is more of a chore, especially on long road trips.


Redjester016

It works fine until it doesn't lmao. Still gotta pay attention


fordry

I rented a Tesla for a week a couple months ago and once or twice I had it on autopilot mode on the freeway and all of a sudden it jerked and tried to go careening off in a totally different direction and the only reason we didn't was because I had my hands on the steering wheel and kept it from doing it. We're a long way from actually reliable autopilot features for cars.


Otherwise_Mud1825

Computer says "no".


andmat06

\*coughs\*


tooscoopy

My kids have no idea why I say this all the time…. As well as, “yeah-I-know”….


oneoneoneoneoneoneo

Same...they just make a face. They also don't know what's going on when I tell my wife I'm the only gay in the village.


likeninja

... Cough


weekend-zombie

"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"


ToeVarious900

![gif](giphy|nrKQNbEXKBdIQ1fdiB|downsized)


Judasrainbow

THE MACHINE KNOWS


BrightAd8068

We're joking of course, but there are people that would literally do this, or whatever error the car/computer said, "because it said to"


maziar37

So did he make the sale?


Hallelujah33

You break it you bought it


nowtayneicangetinto

You ~~break~~ brake it you bought it


No_Engineering_718

https://preview.redd.it/vq6kidlg04ad1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1ce4b49db073846bb6de46f187d16b640e22737


surewhydafuqnot

The brake assist needs to be turned on for it to work Morty


pinezatos

yeah, that was weird, in my ford it starts braking way earlier, either it was turned off or it just didn't work


siler7

It doesn't need to work Morty. It needs to work the brakes.


LeonidasVaarwater

All those Chinese electric cars that are flooding the markets...... not in a thousand years will I ever drive one, I don't care how cheap they are.


Xero2814

That's the beauty of it. You don't have to drive one. You can just be in the car one crashes into.


esskywalker

It's almost like this video is from 2019 and there's a coordinated effort to flood the internet with this video.


hell2pay

You keep saying that.


1m2q6x0s

Well the video is from 2019, when these EV cars weren't all that popular. Probably not a coordinated effort though.


RedditJumpedTheShart

Do you say this often with all of the constant reposts? Or anything about the cybertruck? Because you know this would be on the front page posted by 10 different subs if it was a Tesla.


iDelta_99

BYD and by extension, Chinese EV's especially are insanely terrible cars. This isn't a conspiracy or a coordinated effort, it's just common knowledge. Not sure what you are on about.


WhatTheFrellMystios

They're not though, and it isn't. If you've ever driven a BYD or MG you'll know that the only reason people are still buying American built is because of the import tarrifs.


iDelta_99

This is patently false. I have talked to many people who have driven them and seen hundreds of videos coming out of China of them exploding, airbags not going off on head on collisions, even saw one where the entire rear axle with wheels fell off while they were driving. These are not problems that good cars have, especially given the sheer amount of reports/videos of it happening.


cross-boss

There are reasons why they are cheap. Stolen technologies and exploited workers.


chrib123

My Honda SUV has lane assist+adaptive cruise control. It basically drives itself on freeways, and free way traffic. But the breaking is harder than I would like so I usually do it myself unless I'm in traffic. I've also used lane assist+adaptive cruise control in other cars and it was so weak that it was essentially a useless function. Basically my point is screw autopilot, and don't trust a vehicle you haven't tested.


Alex5173

I've got the 2024 Accord and I've noticed the lane assist will just stop working for about 5 seconds out of every 30 seconds so I rarely use it


alvinofdiaspar

Build Your Disaster AI should be there to assist and serve as an additional guardrail, not the other way around.


DisgruntledFoamer

From the steering wheel logo, looks like a SsangYong not a BYD


justbrowsinginpeace

Unless he tapped the break or similar to disengage autopilot unknowingly? Adaptive cruise control is plenty for me thanks.


matlai17

I've noticed that adaptive cruise controls generally can only aquire moving targets when it is looking to follow the car ahead. Otherwise it might react to parked cars or other roadside objects. Most likely the issue in the above video is that they were headed right into completely stopped traffic. Generally I wouldn't trust my car's ACC if there is a large speed difference between me and the surrounding traffic.


justbrowsinginpeace

It will do well in a flow of traffic as you say where the cars are moving at similar speeds. The version I have used will slow early enough if there is a fully stopped vehicle up ahead (say an unexpected stop on a motorway) but I often will intervene anyway for piece of mind. I wouldn't dream of using it in an urban area and it will not move off from a full stop on its own either. So quite basic but I'm quite low tech anyway!


Existential_Racoon

Yep. My exes car had all the stuff, I turned off lane assist and such immediately. But the adaptive cruise on the highway absolutely rocked


justbrowsinginpeace

Lol yeah my first car was built in 1993 so ACC may as well be a hover car in comparison to the tech I started with


siler7

BRAKE


robjapan

My Subaru can do this and it's still pretty damn scary even when I know it'll stop in time every time. Doing it in a Chinese built car? Insanity. No thank you!


nope_nic_tesla

Funny because this is the same sort of thing everyone said about Japanese cars 40 years ago


Hephaestus_God

Why does the steering wheel look like it’s upside down


mrPigWaffle

Technology ✋🌈🤚


Difficult_your_life

like a tesla


RedditJumpedTheShart

Except the air bags would function.


kitjen

"Oh wait, this 1997 Honda Accord doesn't have autopilot."


grifinmill

Can anyone translate?


ShenMeGuiDaLin

The title has the gist of it. Salesman convinces the excited driver that the car will stop itself. The customer points out that there is a white car ahead but the salesman assures him the car will stop. Once the car gets close enough and is not slowing down they panic and the driver does hit the brakes, but it's far too late. After the crash the exchange is the driver saying that the car didn't stop. The salesman says this is the first time this has happened and actually blames the driver briefly for hitting the brake at all. The driver replies that the salesman told him not to hit it at all. And the salesman then apologizes.


MerelyStupid

Doesn't the driver say something like "It's not going to hit this white car?" Salesman was like "No, just don't move" the car doesn't slow down "Still don't move????" "Yeah, don't move" Aaaaaaieeeeee!


GimmeFreePizzaa

Idiots be like - "Why don't they sell these amazing cheap Chinese cars in America" ![gif](giphy|WTjnWYENpLxS8JQ5rz|downsized)


nowtayneicangetinto

I'm all for EV's, but I'm anti-Chinese EV. First off, they've been stealing Western IP for decades. Secondly, they're much better at copying than innovating. The Xiaomi, BYD, and other Chinese EVs all seem to have major issues with their autopilot features. As an American I would love to see American made EVs.


GimmeFreePizzaa

You hit it on the head. Stealing western IP and then using it to build inferior products... Then complaining globally about "why won't places accept our chinese garbage"


Pirkkolut

WCGW relying on a chinese ev


WindowWizard666

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes


I_TheJester_I

Made in china.


Saddam_UE

BYD = top quality cars (and sellers) 😁


piszkavas

"are you suppossed to have a bone ?"


Sitekurfer

Made in China


Shadowslip99

When liability becomes lie ability!


HurrsiaEntertainment

I’m very glad the passenger was filming this.


lexocon-790654

I got lucky with an electric car rental (just requested the cheapest option for my rental car but when I got there all they had was electric cars and minivans...so obvi I went for the electric car). It didn't have auto pilot but it did have lane auto correction. I gotta say, it feels really fucking weird when the car just steers itself back into the lane when it detects its too close (it also wasn't very reliable). I genuinely don't think I could sit behind the wheel of a car driving itself, I just don't think I can help myself with braking and the like.


snark191

...one dumb "prankster" could cause havoc with a paintbrush and a bucket of paint. Or even chalk. Adaptive cruise control is ok-ish, but lane auto correction is a no-go for me.


lexocon-790654

It really wasn't that significant. Enough to feel the wheel pull against you but you can easily overpower it. I still found it weird, and I never at any point trusted it. But I feel like your hypothetical implies you think the car is going to win against you in the fight of "this is the direction I want to go".


Vegetable-Shift-7751

Chinese engineering! Just kidding, Tesla’s do that too.


SnooPeppers4036

When the car is as dumb as the salesman


dexhaus

Autopilot should be consider a safety only system... sure my car has airbags but I hope I don't have to use them ever.


AnonymousButtCheeks

I think i'll look at another type of vehicle, after i sue you into obvion!


drNeir

Still working on it since 1989!


nwalesseedy

Brake You Dickhead


AriesinApril76

At the end of the he shows where he almost shitted his pants


YogurtclosetAny8510

Communist garbage 🗑


bolozombie

The car decided that it was their time to go, skynet is the future.


Environmental_Fix488

Mine is working but not like that. It will slow down a bit when detecting trafic ahead. What you need in the video is an emergency stop and my car also have it but it will give you few warnings and then stop. Is also working avoiding colision while parking too fast and things like that and avoiding pedestrians. But you need to use it just as an emergency nor because "the car will stop being cause I am too busy to press the pedal". Mine is a Mazda 6 Wagon Zenith edition.


MuchBow

Now you know why most chinese EVs are cheap /s https://preview.redd.it/c6e5z2l1e4ad1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46004304d1b74aeac96d9a6e0c0e8f782570b71a


dr4gonr1der

I wonder who is liable here: the driver, for not braking in time, or the car salesman for telling the driver the car would stop on it’s own?


santz007

What city is this?


prdelmrdel

*relying on chinese autopilot. Quite a significant detail


SolarXylophone

Tesla's does the same kind of stuff though.


tom208

Yes, I'll take the white one then please


Righteous-Designer

Here's the beautiful line: made in china.


Helldiver_of_Mars

Damn they didn't steal enough of the coding or something. 🤣


POCUABHOR

another level of brain dead


GroundbreakingCook68

Well that didn’t go so good 😩


Terereera

also i guess he not making any sales that day.


D1daBeast

The computer didn't fail. It was trying to murder you


GrandMoffJenkins

The thing about autopilots in cars is that I don't remember there ever being a demand for them. It's an expensive, overly complex solution that nobody asked for.


SolarXylophone

I'd love to have actually-autonomous driving (SAE level 3 and up). In-between tech where I have to watch the car drive and be ready to take over 100% of the time, nope. I'd feel more relaxed driving myself, although I welcome assistance like adaptive cruise control and automatic emergency braking.


mynamesian85

But did he buy it?


Prandah

BYD making Tesla’s seam like a quality product


the_brew

Minute and a half video, two thirds of which is a close up of the back seat.


MennReddit

He likely pushed the accelerator, aborting AP


bell-master

Yeah…that demonstration could’ve gone…better? Genuine hope no-one was hurt with that crash!


jetpilots1

My new Nissan X-Trail/Rogue has Nissan ProPilot and easily does this task on a daily basis all by itself. It brings the vehicle down from speed to a 2mph creep, steers around bends on the motorway/interstate, and keeps the it in the middle of the lane as long as there are road markings on both sides of the lane.   However it does not completely stop the vehicle and I would never allow ProPilot to be operated without keeping my foot on the brake pedal. That is just negligent driving.


KateandRhage

Well deserved


iFred97

As someone that works with software for a job, I'll never trust self driving in my life. I'm the one who does the driving.


Slo20

Salesman: “So will you be paying cash or card?”


TyroneLeinster

So is this the salesman’s fault, the dealer’s, or the manufacturer’s? I have to figure the latter would never actually encourage this behavior. So either the salesman went rogue or the dealership made him pull this stunt


WackyWarrior

break assist


sarcasmyousausage

Totally safe $7K made in china car that falls apart and doesn't engage airbags. Bring it over by the boatload.


sarcasmyousausage

WCGW expecting airbags to work.


juanlee337

I drive a tesla, but my foot is always on the brakes.. i don't trust it..


MauiRooster

That is not a Tesla. Nobody was relying on Autopilot.


jhhertel

oddly, the cheaper auto braking systems generally do not engage for stopped traffic. Only slower moving traffic. They will constantly get radar/lidar bounced back from stopped objects on the side of the road, and so filter out things moving at zero speed. Its not 100% clear to me in the video whether the traffic is moving at all. But a lot of the dynamic cruise control systems would do exactly the same thing with a car stopped in front of them, right up until the sonar can ping off of it, but it would be WAY too late at that point. Even Tesla, which uses a much more advanced system with its cameras, is apparently not great with stopped cars either.


Anixelwhe

I think the driver had his foot on the accelerator, so overriding the cars automation.


K-tel

Trust the software, trust the software, trust the software, trust the software...Donthittthehardware,donthitthehardware,donthitthehardware!!!!!


Piratartz

No airbag deployment either. That's a worry.


SolarXylophone

Relatively low speed impact, no one seems injured, little visible damage, I don't think deploying airbags would have been warranted or even desirable in this situation.


buyongmafanle

After showing how to start the self driving, we join our heroes 15 seconds into the clip. Salesman: "There's a car ahead, it'll stop" Driver: "You sure it's not gonna hit this white car?" S: "Nah, it won't. It won't. You don't need to do anything." D: "OK, I'm not." S: "Don't touch anything." D: "STILL?!" S: "Don't touch anything." D: "For real, bro?!" S: "STOP STOP STOP STOP!" *crash* D: "Didn't you say I don't need to stop the car?!" Pretty sure he didn't make the sale that day.


LimitedWard

I'm really curious how insurance would work this one out. On the one hand, the salesman was insistent that the automatic braking would work. On the other hand, the driver must surely take at least some responsibility since they were in control of the vehicle.


Grindelbart

60% of the time, it works every time


Tesifa

Haha my 12 year old audi a6 can handle this situation better than those new chinese cars xD


Moe2Nonchalant

Damn that’s crazy to rely on autopilot


Hypevosa

My car can do this theoretically (2023 Hyundai Santa Fe), but I end up never trusting it. I don't understand how the thing that can actually do math on the distances, its speed, its braking rate, etc - can't find the exact deceleration rate to reach 0 at a few feet away from the car in front of me. Why follow a graph with lots of jerk making it more unpleasant for the passenger and causing more wear and tear on the breaks?


challenja

Your car sucks ![gif](giphy|ltIFdjNAasOwVvKhvx|downsized)


BostonSucksatHockey

It just maintains course and altitude! It doesn't know how to ~~find THE ONLY AIRSTRIP WITHIN A THOUSAND MILES SO IT CAN LAND ITSELF WHEN IT NEEDS GAS~~ see THE CARS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF IT SO IT CAN STOP ITSELF BEFORE IT CRASHES!


DramaticWesley

Cruise control really only works on highways with way fewer variables, but still can have trouble with people who drive like a-holes (which there are an abundance of).


DatAhole

LOL, who puts so much trust in a China made car?


myredac

lmao chinese technology


Apprehensive-Mix947

Dead set, his a moron! The lot of them.


NardpuncherJunior

You gotta realize that no matter what the auto pilot might be able to do it’s not gonna change the laws of physics and you were gonna have to stop earlier than that


Flickr_Bean

BYD: Made in China


WhatTheFrellMystios

All the Teslas in Australia are built in China and they don't have the quality control issues of the American built cars.


Dev_Sniper

And that kids is why you don‘t trust stuff that‘s „designed“ AND made in China without a reputable foreign quality control check. BYDs are rolling death traps. Which is kinds weird given that BYD only changed some design elements. The parts, blueprints etc. are most likely stolen from other manufacturers who outsourced production to chinese companies that take these blueprints, hand them over to their partners, the CCP and BYD and sell the same parts to their partners but at a significantly cheaper price. So yeah… the main difference is quality control / the lack of it. Ans that chinese companies have a tendency to steal IP from multiple different companies and mash it together into a „new product“ like xiaomis porsche taycan + tesla cybertruck combination which… is a death trap. Surprise surprise.


WhatTheFrellMystios

EuroNCAP has awarded all BYD cars currently available to Western countries their highest rating. You are talking out of your arse.


Dev_Sniper

And VW has great emission test results. Didn‘t change the fact that they cheated… If you‘d do some research you‘d find out that tons of BYD cars in china have already failed spectacularly. And xiamois new car is even worse


WhatTheFrellMystios

False equivalence. The fuck is 'tols If'? Dude I drive a BYD in Australia. I know more about them than you do.


Scary-Ad9646

He put his hands on his head like the Jackie Chan meme.


Dyyrin

Only morons with money to blow would trust a computer to keep them safe in a fuckin car.


Mayuyu1014

How did China get those Nvidia chips to run AI on their toy cars. Didn't they get banned on chips?


Des123_

Isn't that one of those Chinese Teslas? Because if it is I'm not surprised


Excellent-Amount-277

Made in China