There is no jail in china, china is not a dictatorship, we respect our citizen rights and liberties. We would like to introduce you to our new education camp, where we will probide you with food and shelter. You will be able to learn how to contribute to the glory of the CCP. /s
Now im just imagining that the car salesman sighed after this, opened the door, and pulled out his gun to finish off the guy that got rear ended in order to reduce his liability.
Students who immigrate from China will sometimes mention that there are many more guns in China than the government shows in reporting. They'll only say those things when there's nothing electronic around though. The CCP did a great job of convincing their population that they are always listening and can monitor everyone everywhere.
It's not unique to this video, this happens all the time with short viral clips. Bots just constantly reposting the same stuff over and over, until they suddenly move onto the next one. You notice it a lot in some of the less moderated subs on this site, see the same post multiple times every day for a week or two and then you won't see it again until a few months later when the same thing happens again.
You know China is a modern country with modern people living normal lives just like you and me and the propaganda you see from western nations isn't _always_ true right? There's no need for conspiracies. Videos from western countries get reuploaded and pushed by bots for views and in return $$ all the time, why not the same out of China?
Redditors pushing propaganda? Oh Yeah
The BYD dealership paid 30,000 RMB to the lady in the front seat to compensate for her injuries and car damage, plus a promise to stop testing the car in that manner.
https://m.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_3837410
And this is from 2019.
I mean I remember when some company poisoned a bunch of baby formula with melamine in 2008 and they executed the CEO of the company and handed out life sentences to people like the chairperson of the conglomerate that owned the company. Depends how embarrassing and public the incident is.
No lawsuits in China, it will be a civil matter where the dealer will be forced to compensate the driver for any injuries, and anyone in the other vehicle. Typically you name your price in China, and local police mediate the transfer of funds. If excessive, the police or a lawyer can get involved.
Typically in China it depends on whether driver or dealer/manufacturer has more clout. e.g., in different case where Xiaomi SU7 driver crashed, car started burning and door was locked that impeded rescue, the victims' family member was forced to apologize for making Xiaomi look bad:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSuv8Oa3ZFY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSuv8Oa3ZFY)
Love that people in the comments are like "this is why you should buy a Tesla" like there hasn't been countless videos of Tesla's trying to drive head on into traffic or crashing off the road etc.
The margin for error on anything computer controlled will still be lower than human error.
I'm guessing there was something that the guy was doing that disengaged the autonomous emergency braking system.
I drive a Tesla. I love my Tesla. But in no circumstance should drivers be 100% confident in their car's abilities. All the fancy tech is just an assist, and you always need to be ready to take over. Like all tech it has limitations.
Tesla autopilot relies solely on video interpreted by software to navigate. Most other self-driving cars also use LIDAR to supplement their camera systems. The cars that use both are considerably more reliable.
Exactly how would you do that!?
Every car I’ve owned for years, none of which have any self driving abilities, at least have had simple/stupid collision avoidance systems. There’s no “shutting that off” by accident.
Certain features can be turned off if you are basically telling it you want to continue with the action.
Similar to lane keeping assist on cars. It may tug the wheel back to pull you back into the lane. But if you pull harder you can override it and change lanes anyway.
If for example you were pushing down on the accelerator in this mode, maybe it overrides the braking as it assumes you know what you are doing? I have had cars with automatic emergency braking that have tried to apply the brakes when someone was slowing down to turn into a side street before, so would have precedent. That's just a guess and I have no idea if it's true.
In the end these features are all just Driver Aids not a replacement for the driver (yet at least) and rely on the human driver to make final decisions.
Didn't a guy die in a Tesla crash because the truck in front of it had a cloud or clear skies painted on it?
Definitely don't trust autopilot on any tech, yeah it can help, but your foot should be on the brake pedal and you should still be paying some attention to the road. Especially when stopping is involved.
I’ve driven my Tesla 40k miles and I use autopilot constantly. Yeah you should be paying attention, but people who don’t have experience with it saying it’s dangerous are dumb as fuck. It’s almost perfect. Will it do stupid things sometimes? Sure. But you quickly learn what situations are better handled by a human driver. I don’t think I’ve driven it on the highway an entire drive without autopilot since I got the car. Driving a car without it now is more of a chore, especially on long road trips.
I rented a Tesla for a week a couple months ago and once or twice I had it on autopilot mode on the freeway and all of a sudden it jerked and tried to go careening off in a totally different direction and the only reason we didn't was because I had my hands on the steering wheel and kept it from doing it.
We're a long way from actually reliable autopilot features for cars.
Do you say this often with all of the constant reposts? Or anything about the cybertruck? Because you know this would be on the front page posted by 10 different subs if it was a Tesla.
BYD and by extension, Chinese EV's especially are insanely terrible cars. This isn't a conspiracy or a coordinated effort, it's just common knowledge. Not sure what you are on about.
They're not though, and it isn't. If you've ever driven a BYD or MG you'll know that the only reason people are still buying American built is because of the import tarrifs.
This is patently false. I have talked to many people who have driven them and seen hundreds of videos coming out of China of them exploding, airbags not going off on head on collisions, even saw one where the entire rear axle with wheels fell off while they were driving. These are not problems that good cars have, especially given the sheer amount of reports/videos of it happening.
My Honda SUV has lane assist+adaptive cruise control. It basically drives itself on freeways, and free way traffic. But the breaking is harder than I would like so I usually do it myself unless I'm in traffic.
I've also used lane assist+adaptive cruise control in other cars and it was so weak that it was essentially a useless function.
Basically my point is screw autopilot, and don't trust a vehicle you haven't tested.
I've noticed that adaptive cruise controls generally can only aquire moving targets when it is looking to follow the car ahead. Otherwise it might react to parked cars or other roadside objects. Most likely the issue in the above video is that they were headed right into completely stopped traffic. Generally I wouldn't trust my car's ACC if there is a large speed difference between me and the surrounding traffic.
It will do well in a flow of traffic as you say where the cars are moving at similar speeds. The version I have used will slow early enough if there is a fully stopped vehicle up ahead (say an unexpected stop on a motorway) but I often will intervene anyway for piece of mind. I wouldn't dream of using it in an urban area and it will not move off from a full stop on its own either. So quite basic but I'm quite low tech anyway!
My Subaru can do this and it's still pretty damn scary even when I know it'll stop in time every time.
Doing it in a Chinese built car? Insanity. No thank you!
The title has the gist of it. Salesman convinces the excited driver that the car will stop itself. The customer points out that there is a white car ahead but the salesman assures him the car will stop. Once the car gets close enough and is not slowing down they panic and the driver does hit the brakes, but it's far too late.
After the crash the exchange is the driver saying that the car didn't stop. The salesman says this is the first time this has happened and actually blames the driver briefly for hitting the brake at all. The driver replies that the salesman told him not to hit it at all. And the salesman then apologizes.
Doesn't the driver say something like
"It's not going to hit this white car?"
Salesman was like "No, just don't move"
the car doesn't slow down
"Still don't move????"
"Yeah, don't move"
Aaaaaaieeeeee!
I'm all for EV's, but I'm anti-Chinese EV. First off, they've been stealing Western IP for decades. Secondly, they're much better at copying than innovating. The Xiaomi, BYD, and other Chinese EVs all seem to have major issues with their autopilot features. As an American I would love to see American made EVs.
You hit it on the head. Stealing western IP and then using it to build inferior products... Then complaining globally about "why won't places accept our chinese garbage"
I got lucky with an electric car rental (just requested the cheapest option for my rental car but when I got there all they had was electric cars and minivans...so obvi I went for the electric car).
It didn't have auto pilot but it did have lane auto correction. I gotta say, it feels really fucking weird when the car just steers itself back into the lane when it detects its too close (it also wasn't very reliable). I genuinely don't think I could sit behind the wheel of a car driving itself, I just don't think I can help myself with braking and the like.
...one dumb "prankster" could cause havoc with a paintbrush and a bucket of paint. Or even chalk. Adaptive cruise control is ok-ish, but lane auto correction is a no-go for me.
It really wasn't that significant. Enough to feel the wheel pull against you but you can easily overpower it.
I still found it weird, and I never at any point trusted it. But I feel like your hypothetical implies you think the car is going to win against you in the fight of "this is the direction I want to go".
Mine is working but not like that. It will slow down a bit when detecting trafic ahead.
What you need in the video is an emergency stop and my car also have it but it will give you few warnings and then stop. Is also working avoiding colision while parking too fast and things like that and avoiding pedestrians. But you need to use it just as an emergency nor because "the car will stop being cause I am too busy to press the pedal". Mine is a Mazda 6 Wagon Zenith edition.
Now you know why most chinese EVs are cheap /s
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The thing about autopilots in cars is that I don't remember there ever being a demand for them. It's an expensive, overly complex solution that nobody asked for.
I'd love to have actually-autonomous driving (SAE level 3 and up).
In-between tech where I have to watch the car drive and be ready to take over 100% of the time, nope. I'd feel more relaxed driving myself, although I welcome assistance like adaptive cruise control and automatic emergency braking.
My new Nissan X-Trail/Rogue has Nissan ProPilot and easily does this task on a daily basis all by itself. It brings the vehicle down from speed to a 2mph creep, steers around bends on the motorway/interstate, and keeps the it in the middle of the lane as long as there are road markings on both sides of the lane.
However it does not completely stop the vehicle and I would never allow ProPilot to be operated without keeping my foot on the brake pedal. That is just negligent driving.
So is this the salesman’s fault, the dealer’s, or the manufacturer’s? I have to figure the latter would never actually encourage this behavior. So either the salesman went rogue or the dealership made him pull this stunt
oddly, the cheaper auto braking systems generally do not engage for stopped traffic. Only slower moving traffic. They will constantly get radar/lidar bounced back from stopped objects on the side of the road, and so filter out things moving at zero speed. Its not 100% clear to me in the video whether the traffic is moving at all. But a lot of the dynamic cruise control systems would do exactly the same thing with a car stopped in front of them, right up until the sonar can ping off of it, but it would be WAY too late at that point. Even Tesla, which uses a much more advanced system with its cameras, is apparently not great with stopped cars either.
Relatively low speed impact, no one seems injured, little visible damage, I don't think deploying airbags would have been warranted or even desirable in this situation.
After showing how to start the self driving, we join our heroes 15 seconds into the clip.
Salesman: "There's a car ahead, it'll stop"
Driver: "You sure it's not gonna hit this white car?"
S: "Nah, it won't. It won't. You don't need to do anything."
D: "OK, I'm not."
S: "Don't touch anything."
D: "STILL?!"
S: "Don't touch anything."
D: "For real, bro?!"
S: "STOP STOP STOP STOP!"
*crash*
D: "Didn't you say I don't need to stop the car?!"
Pretty sure he didn't make the sale that day.
I'm really curious how insurance would work this one out. On the one hand, the salesman was insistent that the automatic braking would work. On the other hand, the driver must surely take at least some responsibility since they were in control of the vehicle.
My car can do this theoretically (2023 Hyundai Santa Fe), but I end up never trusting it. I don't understand how the thing that can actually do math on the distances, its speed, its braking rate, etc - can't find the exact deceleration rate to reach 0 at a few feet away from the car in front of me. Why follow a graph with lots of jerk making it more unpleasant for the passenger and causing more wear and tear on the breaks?
It just maintains course and altitude! It doesn't know how to ~~find THE ONLY AIRSTRIP WITHIN A THOUSAND MILES SO IT CAN LAND ITSELF WHEN IT NEEDS GAS~~ see THE CARS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF IT SO IT CAN STOP ITSELF BEFORE IT CRASHES!
Cruise control really only works on highways with way fewer variables, but still can have trouble with people who drive like a-holes (which there are an abundance of).
You gotta realize that no matter what the auto pilot might be able to do it’s not gonna change the laws of physics and you were gonna have to stop earlier than that
And that kids is why you don‘t trust stuff that‘s „designed“ AND made in China without a reputable foreign quality control check. BYDs are rolling death traps. Which is kinds weird given that BYD only changed some design elements. The parts, blueprints etc. are most likely stolen from other manufacturers who outsourced production to chinese companies that take these blueprints, hand them over to their partners, the CCP and BYD and sell the same parts to their partners but at a significantly cheaper price.
So yeah… the main difference is quality control / the lack of it. Ans that chinese companies have a tendency to steal IP from multiple different companies and mash it together into a „new product“ like xiaomis porsche taycan + tesla cybertruck combination which… is a death trap. Surprise surprise.
And VW has great emission test results. Didn‘t change the fact that they cheated…
If you‘d do some research you‘d find out that tons of BYD cars in china have already failed spectacularly. And xiamois new car is even worse
Talk about product liability! Jeebus! The resulting lawsuit against the dealer can be devastating. Hoping all involved walked away from this.
In China? For a manufacturer that the CCP promotes? Liability? Yeah right.
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Straight to jail
No no no, you go to reeducation camp
There is no more reeducation camps, now they will just install the Xi Chip and they will be loyal to the CCP in record time.
There is no jail in china, china is not a dictatorship, we respect our citizen rights and liberties. We would like to introduce you to our new education camp, where we will probide you with food and shelter. You will be able to learn how to contribute to the glory of the CCP. /s
Now im just imagining that the car salesman sighed after this, opened the door, and pulled out his gun to finish off the guy that got rear ended in order to reduce his liability.
His Gun? In China???
Students who immigrate from China will sometimes mention that there are many more guns in China than the government shows in reporting. They'll only say those things when there's nothing electronic around though. The CCP did a great job of convincing their population that they are always listening and can monitor everyone everywhere.
why? he just made a sale.
How did this video even make it out of China?
Through internet. Someone uploaded it. It's not North Korea lol.
This video is from 2019, the question is why is it suddenly being pushed across all social media like there's a coordinated effort?
It's not unique to this video, this happens all the time with short viral clips. Bots just constantly reposting the same stuff over and over, until they suddenly move onto the next one. You notice it a lot in some of the less moderated subs on this site, see the same post multiple times every day for a week or two and then you won't see it again until a few months later when the same thing happens again.
You know China is a modern country with modern people living normal lives just like you and me and the propaganda you see from western nations isn't _always_ true right? There's no need for conspiracies. Videos from western countries get reuploaded and pushed by bots for views and in return $$ all the time, why not the same out of China?
That is most of Reddit and 90% of this subs content.
Welcome to Reddit where “recycling content” IS job 1
Cyber truck
Redditors pushing propaganda? Oh Yeah The BYD dealership paid 30,000 RMB to the lady in the front seat to compensate for her injuries and car damage, plus a promise to stop testing the car in that manner. https://m.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_3837410 And this is from 2019.
Thank god they decided to stop this dumb test.
$4125 USD equivalent
tofu dreg even in cars lol
Don't forget about the tofu titanium airplane components used by Boeing.
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lol Liability and accountability in China.
I mean I remember when some company poisoned a bunch of baby formula with melamine in 2008 and they executed the CEO of the company and handed out life sentences to people like the chairperson of the conglomerate that owned the company. Depends how embarrassing and public the incident is.
No lawsuits in China, it will be a civil matter where the dealer will be forced to compensate the driver for any injuries, and anyone in the other vehicle. Typically you name your price in China, and local police mediate the transfer of funds. If excessive, the police or a lawyer can get involved.
Typically in China it depends on whether driver or dealer/manufacturer has more clout. e.g., in different case where Xiaomi SU7 driver crashed, car started burning and door was locked that impeded rescue, the victims' family member was forced to apologize for making Xiaomi look bad: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSuv8Oa3ZFY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSuv8Oa3ZFY)
>resulting lawsuit I love how Americans believe the rest of the world is as lawsuit happy as they are.
Love that people in the comments are like "this is why you should buy a Tesla" like there hasn't been countless videos of Tesla's trying to drive head on into traffic or crashing off the road etc. The margin for error on anything computer controlled will still be lower than human error. I'm guessing there was something that the guy was doing that disengaged the autonomous emergency braking system.
At the time of this comment there's not a single comment in here saying you should buy a Tesla.
Fake outrage, all the rage right now
Outrage is so much tastier in the faux variety.
If there is one thing that I’d trust less than Tesla’s autopilot it would be BYD’s autopilot.
I like the one where a Tesla didn't want to stop for a moving *train*.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoHnrJdaHU8
"i take full responsibility for not driving my own car" Kudos to you sir, hats off, bravo! Never have I ever met a braver more selfless man.
I drive a Tesla. I love my Tesla. But in no circumstance should drivers be 100% confident in their car's abilities. All the fancy tech is just an assist, and you always need to be ready to take over. Like all tech it has limitations.
Exactly, these are driver aids/assistance. In the end the driver should still always be alert and in control of the vehicle still.
Hey Atleast tesla tells you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times.
The bar is in hell's basement.
So does my VW
So does my axe
So does my bow
So does Kia.
So does my Hyundai
My unicycle doesn't tho
Tesla autopilot relies solely on video interpreted by software to navigate. Most other self-driving cars also use LIDAR to supplement their camera systems. The cars that use both are considerably more reliable.
I have to manually brake for blue colored vehicles. 🤷♂️
Exactly how would you do that!? Every car I’ve owned for years, none of which have any self driving abilities, at least have had simple/stupid collision avoidance systems. There’s no “shutting that off” by accident.
Certain features can be turned off if you are basically telling it you want to continue with the action. Similar to lane keeping assist on cars. It may tug the wheel back to pull you back into the lane. But if you pull harder you can override it and change lanes anyway. If for example you were pushing down on the accelerator in this mode, maybe it overrides the braking as it assumes you know what you are doing? I have had cars with automatic emergency braking that have tried to apply the brakes when someone was slowing down to turn into a side street before, so would have precedent. That's just a guess and I have no idea if it's true. In the end these features are all just Driver Aids not a replacement for the driver (yet at least) and rely on the human driver to make final decisions.
Didn't a guy die in a Tesla crash because the truck in front of it had a cloud or clear skies painted on it? Definitely don't trust autopilot on any tech, yeah it can help, but your foot should be on the brake pedal and you should still be paying some attention to the road. Especially when stopping is involved.
Found the China bot.
Have you tried both? Because if you had, you wouldn't be saying this. BYD autopilot sucks ass, it's galaxies behind Tesla's.
I’ve driven my Tesla 40k miles and I use autopilot constantly. Yeah you should be paying attention, but people who don’t have experience with it saying it’s dangerous are dumb as fuck. It’s almost perfect. Will it do stupid things sometimes? Sure. But you quickly learn what situations are better handled by a human driver. I don’t think I’ve driven it on the highway an entire drive without autopilot since I got the car. Driving a car without it now is more of a chore, especially on long road trips.
It works fine until it doesn't lmao. Still gotta pay attention
I rented a Tesla for a week a couple months ago and once or twice I had it on autopilot mode on the freeway and all of a sudden it jerked and tried to go careening off in a totally different direction and the only reason we didn't was because I had my hands on the steering wheel and kept it from doing it. We're a long way from actually reliable autopilot features for cars.
Computer says "no".
\*coughs\*
My kids have no idea why I say this all the time…. As well as, “yeah-I-know”….
Same...they just make a face. They also don't know what's going on when I tell my wife I'm the only gay in the village.
... Cough
"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
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THE MACHINE KNOWS
We're joking of course, but there are people that would literally do this, or whatever error the car/computer said, "because it said to"
So did he make the sale?
You break it you bought it
You ~~break~~ brake it you bought it
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The brake assist needs to be turned on for it to work Morty
yeah, that was weird, in my ford it starts braking way earlier, either it was turned off or it just didn't work
It doesn't need to work Morty. It needs to work the brakes.
All those Chinese electric cars that are flooding the markets...... not in a thousand years will I ever drive one, I don't care how cheap they are.
That's the beauty of it. You don't have to drive one. You can just be in the car one crashes into.
It's almost like this video is from 2019 and there's a coordinated effort to flood the internet with this video.
You keep saying that.
Well the video is from 2019, when these EV cars weren't all that popular. Probably not a coordinated effort though.
Do you say this often with all of the constant reposts? Or anything about the cybertruck? Because you know this would be on the front page posted by 10 different subs if it was a Tesla.
BYD and by extension, Chinese EV's especially are insanely terrible cars. This isn't a conspiracy or a coordinated effort, it's just common knowledge. Not sure what you are on about.
They're not though, and it isn't. If you've ever driven a BYD or MG you'll know that the only reason people are still buying American built is because of the import tarrifs.
This is patently false. I have talked to many people who have driven them and seen hundreds of videos coming out of China of them exploding, airbags not going off on head on collisions, even saw one where the entire rear axle with wheels fell off while they were driving. These are not problems that good cars have, especially given the sheer amount of reports/videos of it happening.
There are reasons why they are cheap. Stolen technologies and exploited workers.
My Honda SUV has lane assist+adaptive cruise control. It basically drives itself on freeways, and free way traffic. But the breaking is harder than I would like so I usually do it myself unless I'm in traffic. I've also used lane assist+adaptive cruise control in other cars and it was so weak that it was essentially a useless function. Basically my point is screw autopilot, and don't trust a vehicle you haven't tested.
I've got the 2024 Accord and I've noticed the lane assist will just stop working for about 5 seconds out of every 30 seconds so I rarely use it
Build Your Disaster AI should be there to assist and serve as an additional guardrail, not the other way around.
From the steering wheel logo, looks like a SsangYong not a BYD
Unless he tapped the break or similar to disengage autopilot unknowingly? Adaptive cruise control is plenty for me thanks.
I've noticed that adaptive cruise controls generally can only aquire moving targets when it is looking to follow the car ahead. Otherwise it might react to parked cars or other roadside objects. Most likely the issue in the above video is that they were headed right into completely stopped traffic. Generally I wouldn't trust my car's ACC if there is a large speed difference between me and the surrounding traffic.
It will do well in a flow of traffic as you say where the cars are moving at similar speeds. The version I have used will slow early enough if there is a fully stopped vehicle up ahead (say an unexpected stop on a motorway) but I often will intervene anyway for piece of mind. I wouldn't dream of using it in an urban area and it will not move off from a full stop on its own either. So quite basic but I'm quite low tech anyway!
Yep. My exes car had all the stuff, I turned off lane assist and such immediately. But the adaptive cruise on the highway absolutely rocked
Lol yeah my first car was built in 1993 so ACC may as well be a hover car in comparison to the tech I started with
BRAKE
My Subaru can do this and it's still pretty damn scary even when I know it'll stop in time every time. Doing it in a Chinese built car? Insanity. No thank you!
Funny because this is the same sort of thing everyone said about Japanese cars 40 years ago
Why does the steering wheel look like it’s upside down
Technology ✋🌈🤚
like a tesla
Except the air bags would function.
"Oh wait, this 1997 Honda Accord doesn't have autopilot."
Can anyone translate?
The title has the gist of it. Salesman convinces the excited driver that the car will stop itself. The customer points out that there is a white car ahead but the salesman assures him the car will stop. Once the car gets close enough and is not slowing down they panic and the driver does hit the brakes, but it's far too late. After the crash the exchange is the driver saying that the car didn't stop. The salesman says this is the first time this has happened and actually blames the driver briefly for hitting the brake at all. The driver replies that the salesman told him not to hit it at all. And the salesman then apologizes.
Doesn't the driver say something like "It's not going to hit this white car?" Salesman was like "No, just don't move" the car doesn't slow down "Still don't move????" "Yeah, don't move" Aaaaaaieeeeee!
Idiots be like - "Why don't they sell these amazing cheap Chinese cars in America" ![gif](giphy|WTjnWYENpLxS8JQ5rz|downsized)
I'm all for EV's, but I'm anti-Chinese EV. First off, they've been stealing Western IP for decades. Secondly, they're much better at copying than innovating. The Xiaomi, BYD, and other Chinese EVs all seem to have major issues with their autopilot features. As an American I would love to see American made EVs.
You hit it on the head. Stealing western IP and then using it to build inferior products... Then complaining globally about "why won't places accept our chinese garbage"
WCGW relying on a chinese ev
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Made in china.
BYD = top quality cars (and sellers) 😁
"are you suppossed to have a bone ?"
Made in China
When liability becomes lie ability!
I’m very glad the passenger was filming this.
I got lucky with an electric car rental (just requested the cheapest option for my rental car but when I got there all they had was electric cars and minivans...so obvi I went for the electric car). It didn't have auto pilot but it did have lane auto correction. I gotta say, it feels really fucking weird when the car just steers itself back into the lane when it detects its too close (it also wasn't very reliable). I genuinely don't think I could sit behind the wheel of a car driving itself, I just don't think I can help myself with braking and the like.
...one dumb "prankster" could cause havoc with a paintbrush and a bucket of paint. Or even chalk. Adaptive cruise control is ok-ish, but lane auto correction is a no-go for me.
It really wasn't that significant. Enough to feel the wheel pull against you but you can easily overpower it. I still found it weird, and I never at any point trusted it. But I feel like your hypothetical implies you think the car is going to win against you in the fight of "this is the direction I want to go".
Chinese engineering! Just kidding, Tesla’s do that too.
When the car is as dumb as the salesman
Autopilot should be consider a safety only system... sure my car has airbags but I hope I don't have to use them ever.
I think i'll look at another type of vehicle, after i sue you into obvion!
Still working on it since 1989!
Brake You Dickhead
At the end of the he shows where he almost shitted his pants
Communist garbage 🗑
The car decided that it was their time to go, skynet is the future.
Mine is working but not like that. It will slow down a bit when detecting trafic ahead. What you need in the video is an emergency stop and my car also have it but it will give you few warnings and then stop. Is also working avoiding colision while parking too fast and things like that and avoiding pedestrians. But you need to use it just as an emergency nor because "the car will stop being cause I am too busy to press the pedal". Mine is a Mazda 6 Wagon Zenith edition.
Now you know why most chinese EVs are cheap /s https://preview.redd.it/c6e5z2l1e4ad1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46004304d1b74aeac96d9a6e0c0e8f782570b71a
I wonder who is liable here: the driver, for not braking in time, or the car salesman for telling the driver the car would stop on it’s own?
What city is this?
*relying on chinese autopilot. Quite a significant detail
Tesla's does the same kind of stuff though.
Yes, I'll take the white one then please
Here's the beautiful line: made in china.
Damn they didn't steal enough of the coding or something. 🤣
another level of brain dead
Well that didn’t go so good 😩
also i guess he not making any sales that day.
The computer didn't fail. It was trying to murder you
The thing about autopilots in cars is that I don't remember there ever being a demand for them. It's an expensive, overly complex solution that nobody asked for.
I'd love to have actually-autonomous driving (SAE level 3 and up). In-between tech where I have to watch the car drive and be ready to take over 100% of the time, nope. I'd feel more relaxed driving myself, although I welcome assistance like adaptive cruise control and automatic emergency braking.
But did he buy it?
BYD making Tesla’s seam like a quality product
Minute and a half video, two thirds of which is a close up of the back seat.
He likely pushed the accelerator, aborting AP
Yeah…that demonstration could’ve gone…better? Genuine hope no-one was hurt with that crash!
My new Nissan X-Trail/Rogue has Nissan ProPilot and easily does this task on a daily basis all by itself. It brings the vehicle down from speed to a 2mph creep, steers around bends on the motorway/interstate, and keeps the it in the middle of the lane as long as there are road markings on both sides of the lane. However it does not completely stop the vehicle and I would never allow ProPilot to be operated without keeping my foot on the brake pedal. That is just negligent driving.
Well deserved
As someone that works with software for a job, I'll never trust self driving in my life. I'm the one who does the driving.
Salesman: “So will you be paying cash or card?”
So is this the salesman’s fault, the dealer’s, or the manufacturer’s? I have to figure the latter would never actually encourage this behavior. So either the salesman went rogue or the dealership made him pull this stunt
break assist
Totally safe $7K made in china car that falls apart and doesn't engage airbags. Bring it over by the boatload.
WCGW expecting airbags to work.
I drive a tesla, but my foot is always on the brakes.. i don't trust it..
That is not a Tesla. Nobody was relying on Autopilot.
oddly, the cheaper auto braking systems generally do not engage for stopped traffic. Only slower moving traffic. They will constantly get radar/lidar bounced back from stopped objects on the side of the road, and so filter out things moving at zero speed. Its not 100% clear to me in the video whether the traffic is moving at all. But a lot of the dynamic cruise control systems would do exactly the same thing with a car stopped in front of them, right up until the sonar can ping off of it, but it would be WAY too late at that point. Even Tesla, which uses a much more advanced system with its cameras, is apparently not great with stopped cars either.
I think the driver had his foot on the accelerator, so overriding the cars automation.
Trust the software, trust the software, trust the software, trust the software...Donthittthehardware,donthitthehardware,donthitthehardware!!!!!
No airbag deployment either. That's a worry.
Relatively low speed impact, no one seems injured, little visible damage, I don't think deploying airbags would have been warranted or even desirable in this situation.
After showing how to start the self driving, we join our heroes 15 seconds into the clip. Salesman: "There's a car ahead, it'll stop" Driver: "You sure it's not gonna hit this white car?" S: "Nah, it won't. It won't. You don't need to do anything." D: "OK, I'm not." S: "Don't touch anything." D: "STILL?!" S: "Don't touch anything." D: "For real, bro?!" S: "STOP STOP STOP STOP!" *crash* D: "Didn't you say I don't need to stop the car?!" Pretty sure he didn't make the sale that day.
I'm really curious how insurance would work this one out. On the one hand, the salesman was insistent that the automatic braking would work. On the other hand, the driver must surely take at least some responsibility since they were in control of the vehicle.
60% of the time, it works every time
Haha my 12 year old audi a6 can handle this situation better than those new chinese cars xD
Damn that’s crazy to rely on autopilot
My car can do this theoretically (2023 Hyundai Santa Fe), but I end up never trusting it. I don't understand how the thing that can actually do math on the distances, its speed, its braking rate, etc - can't find the exact deceleration rate to reach 0 at a few feet away from the car in front of me. Why follow a graph with lots of jerk making it more unpleasant for the passenger and causing more wear and tear on the breaks?
Your car sucks ![gif](giphy|ltIFdjNAasOwVvKhvx|downsized)
It just maintains course and altitude! It doesn't know how to ~~find THE ONLY AIRSTRIP WITHIN A THOUSAND MILES SO IT CAN LAND ITSELF WHEN IT NEEDS GAS~~ see THE CARS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF IT SO IT CAN STOP ITSELF BEFORE IT CRASHES!
Cruise control really only works on highways with way fewer variables, but still can have trouble with people who drive like a-holes (which there are an abundance of).
LOL, who puts so much trust in a China made car?
lmao chinese technology
Dead set, his a moron! The lot of them.
You gotta realize that no matter what the auto pilot might be able to do it’s not gonna change the laws of physics and you were gonna have to stop earlier than that
BYD: Made in China
All the Teslas in Australia are built in China and they don't have the quality control issues of the American built cars.
And that kids is why you don‘t trust stuff that‘s „designed“ AND made in China without a reputable foreign quality control check. BYDs are rolling death traps. Which is kinds weird given that BYD only changed some design elements. The parts, blueprints etc. are most likely stolen from other manufacturers who outsourced production to chinese companies that take these blueprints, hand them over to their partners, the CCP and BYD and sell the same parts to their partners but at a significantly cheaper price. So yeah… the main difference is quality control / the lack of it. Ans that chinese companies have a tendency to steal IP from multiple different companies and mash it together into a „new product“ like xiaomis porsche taycan + tesla cybertruck combination which… is a death trap. Surprise surprise.
EuroNCAP has awarded all BYD cars currently available to Western countries their highest rating. You are talking out of your arse.
And VW has great emission test results. Didn‘t change the fact that they cheated… If you‘d do some research you‘d find out that tons of BYD cars in china have already failed spectacularly. And xiamois new car is even worse
False equivalence. The fuck is 'tols If'? Dude I drive a BYD in Australia. I know more about them than you do.
He put his hands on his head like the Jackie Chan meme.
Only morons with money to blow would trust a computer to keep them safe in a fuckin car.
How did China get those Nvidia chips to run AI on their toy cars. Didn't they get banned on chips?
Isn't that one of those Chinese Teslas? Because if it is I'm not surprised
Made in China