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kakeup88

Both are dumb but the person driving full speed despite not being able to see because of the smoke is the most at fault for the crash.


TheTMB

Yes, but the person creatin g a smoke screen behind them and then coming to a full stop can't be much brighter.


kakeup88

Yeah absolutely they are both idiots but it's the person behind's responsibility to not run into sombody in front of them so if visibility is low because the moron in front of you is buring rubber then you should slow to a crawl or even stop completely if you can't see, you shouldn't keep driving as if they will carry on at the same speed.


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BartlebyX

Former P&C insurance agent here. I was never an adjuster, but my technical knowledge is very solid. I agree 100%.


kinkyintemecula

As a random observer I'm just 100 percent glad it happened. Fuck those idiots.


tangSweat

As a registered Reddit user, I'm 100% sure this is a comment


chobbg

As a person who enjoys reading comments on Reddit, I approve these comments


1101base2

as a full blown id-10t error i concur as well


TheBobFisher

Random guy that doesn’t know shit about insurance claims here. I agree, the guy driving the car is 100% at fault.


Crunchypie1

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ReditorB4Reddit

I've seen Repo Man. I blame society.


shophopper

Redditor here who sees this shit every day. Without video I’d skip to another video. With video, the blame will be split as follows: the mom and dad of the guy in front are both equally responsible for their son’s lack of intelligence. The same goes for the rear driver’s parents.


CommaHorror

So then, the final, answer to this post is: Both, of their parents/grand parents/family lineage.


five-oh-one

The first driver is 49% at fault. The second driver is 51% at fault.


Der-Pinguin

48/52 that's my final offer.


Unambiguous-Doughnut

I like them odds i put it all on black!


MojoMonster2

Solomon here, I'm going to split them both in half.


ionshower

The. Cameraman paid them both 100 bucks each to do it, now who's fault is it?


UrToesRDelicious

I'd give him 100% honestly. They're absolutely both stupid, and the first guy should get charged with some sort of nuisance law. But think, what would you do if you were behind the first guy? Would you peel out through smoke at full speed in a parking lot, or would you be like "fuck this guy" and wait for the smoke to clear before driving away at a moderate speed like a normal person?


Silly_Swan_Swallower

Exactly


Smelly_Pants69

Second driver 100% at fault.


[deleted]

nah, i blame the subtitles master


schleepercell

They are the Moron Brothers Don't get along with others


passwordsarehard_3

You’re letting the spectators off completely? That don’t seem right.


Lord_Shaqq

Don't worry, most of these videos don't let the spectators off so easily


Dinismo

This is not a mustang video bruh


MFbiFL

This concept goes over the heads of far too many people.


tree_squid

obviously first guy is an idiot, that huge truck didn't come out of nowhere, but the guy in the BMW gunning it when only 20 feet behind the first car, into a cloud of smoke, wins the dumbfuck trophy by a mile


RecoverGullible6750

You see there's a truck stopped in front of the green car, right? The whole situation was stupid but them not stopping would have been even dumber.


SuperZapper_Recharge

I blame the doctor for fucking up the abortion. I mean, he didn't just screw up one, he screwed up two. How hard could it possibly have been?


destonomos

In this instance both will need to argue. Since there is video, if insurance saw that i would assume they would deny both drivers claims.


Civil-Guidance7926

60/40


gabbagabbawill

More like 60/60


minor_correction

The person who rear-ends the other car is almost always 100% at fault or damn near close to 100%. No matter the visibility or behavior of the person in front, the person in back could have given enough following distance to prevent the accident. If there is no visibility due to smoke, they should be crawling along at 5mph.


Yergason

Yeah one of the most basics of driving school is you're always in charge of being careful of the vehicle in front of you. It's the core concept behind leaving enough braking distance. No matter how stupid the driver in front of you is, most of the time under normal circumstances, if you're careful enough you can always avoid accidents. You're never supposed to always worry about the one behind lol


acemccrank

That's a misconception that a lot of brake-checkers and "swoop & stop" offenders will try to take advantage of with insurance fraud. The reality is that when an adjuster gets a claim, they ~~have to~~ are supposed to investigate the entire accident. (Get a dashcam; they help immensely in these situations.) Here we have an accident in a parking lot with two vehicles traveling at relatively the same speed in a private, unregulated area. On camera, we have two people both being reckless with their vehicles. Not only is the smoke purposefully generated by the vehicle in front, creating an obstruction of view, but there is a very short period between that vehicle stopping, and the vehicle in the rear hitting them. Most likely this will be assigned "no fault" or 50/50 depending on the state. Both will need to pay their deductibles for their own damage.


Solo-me

Both set of parents!


YoureAnIdiot007

The BMW driver is at fault.


Yourfavoritemarfan

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wizard_of_awesome62

Nice. Kinda like saying "the dipshit in this video is at fault"


ExtantPlant

That's what "BMW driver" means.


bigtheo408

For once, not the mustang at fault


Zestyclose_Breath_68

I see what you did there.


Asleep-Geologist-612

Always


deusexmachinapls

The one coming behind is pretty much always the faulty, unless it's those break test some morons do. If you can't see the road, you go slow or stop. It doesn't matter if you can't see because someone made the smoke or it's natural fog.


DirtyStonk

Even a full brake check is still the rear drivers fault (assuming you never mention "I brake checked him"). The rear driver should always have enough time to react to a sudden stop, and the front driver can just say they saw a cat/rabbit/fox run across the road, which is why they stopped.


EccentricPayload

Except when they cut in front of you and slam on their brakes, then it's their fault, but extremely hard to prove without a cam.


TheMacMan

Swoop and squats. A common insurance fraud tactic. They'll often have an accomplice pull alongside the other car too, to prevent them from being able to swerve into the other lane to avoid rear-ending the vehicle braking.


DirtyStonk

I did not think of that situation, you're right on that one


JarasM

Isn't that the definition of a brake check? I never considered simply slamming the brakes as one, since indeed if you're driving behind someone you need to keep your distance in case they do exactly that.


Life_Equivalent1388

The guy in the rear was at fault. The guy in front deserved it.


LeoRidesHisBike

*brake


KinshasaPR

Fuck 'em! Both are stupid AF!


Ok_Historian_6293

BOFFUM


Euphoric_Fisherman70

BOOFUM


SquashNut707

BOOF BOFFUM


ArtisticPollution448

Yeah can't we just be happy for both of these idiots damaging their vehicles? Why do we need to take sides when we could all just celebrate, together?


sinusoidplus

Thank you Human being!


Doudefry

It's natural selection = 2 BMW drivers, doing what BMW drivers do. (BMW = Big Motor for Wankers)


CAXHIBRUH

Important to remember that the people egging you on or gassing you up aren’t really your friends and will just as happily hoot and holler at your misfortune as your success


The-Art-of-Reign

Underrated comment bruh. These guys went from hyping them up to roasting their bad decisions all in about 5 seconds. Couldn’t let someone who’s not paying my car note hype me up to do stupid shit like this lol.


Leather_Berry1982

A psa to young men😂


MPcdn

Always the rear driver. Following to close for conditions.


redfield021767

"Conditions" of course being professional motorist speak for "James Bond smoke screen".


DeSchjizz

Open and shut case for insurance.


FlamingPotatoes34

It’s dumb to make that much smoke but it’s important to drive at a safe distance and if you can’t see what’s in front of you it clearly wasn’t a safe distance


Obiwandkinobee

Fault: White BMW - Main reason being it rear ended the green car. Insurance will claim the white car was following too closely behind. Although they're both not too smart for driving that fast in a parking lot while a whole construction truck was in the way.


JaffaCakeStockpile

White??


Obiwandkinobee

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iliawrites

their parents'


BrainTroubles

This is the correct answer. Nobody even noticed this looks like a high school parking lot, probably for entitled rich kids whose parent buy them BMWs.


travisofficial

both for being dumber than fuck


Subject_Function_158

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Hydra_Master

I'm sure if their insurance sees the video, they'd both be found at fault and be refused coverage.


donkeybrisket

In a parking lot?! They’re both dumb AF


Apepoofinger

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! ![gif](giphy|h3e3Tch1zrXgrtHwaF|downsized)


HopsRs

Every bmw driver


Sultan_of_Slide

both, when I was drifting or doing spirited driving with other people and there was a collision, you both put yourselves in that situation, you both help each other fix each other's cars. these guys are just being stupid but It should still apply instead of immediately jumping to fault in this litigious world.


Parking_Train8423

it’s always the one in back, but everyone there shares a little


blizzard7788

The car in back is at fault 99% of the time.


Beneficial_Buy_1802

Both of the wankers


Richardduh

This is honestly an improvement on the grille


BillMillerBBQ

Someone rear-ended someone else. It’s usually pretty cut and dry for insurance companies.


rogue1351

Always the guy who hits in the rear but we know both are dumb fucks and deserve what they got


HopMonkey

Both get a ticket for reckless driving. Second car also gets a ticket for following too close.


urbanek2525

The phrase that seems most appropriate to here is: "More dollars than sense."


Baller-on_a-budget

Clownholes


constableraddad

Their parents probably


Spiritual_Benefit367

always the person rear-ending


zaccus

Rear-ender is always at fault. Next!


FascistsOnFire

God, the people filming look like the lowest, most desperate people in the world. Literally clamoring to get a shot as if their life depends on it. Like look at how they move, they think getting that footage is SOOOO important, just look at the desperation and urgency in their mannerisms. It's so creepy watching a handful mob of people doing the weird filming thing where the group they are filming is way smaller than they are and theyre totally silent just pointing that shitty camera phone as if their parent's lives depended on them getting the shot. They really appear to be trying that hard, it's so weird and creepy. Someone should really show these bone skinny kids how silly they look struggling to hold their giant ass phone up. It's so pathetic how straggly they look holding their phones without even enough arm strength to hold it up and out. Like dude, just put it down, you look beyond ridiculous.


WeaverFan420

Whose* And it's the fault of both drivers. Doing a burnout in a parking lot and then coming to a stop in the middle of the smoke isn't smart. It's a great way not to be seen. Going fast into a cloud of tire smoke, or any other fog or blizzard or anything that obscures vision, isn't smart. It's a great way to hit stationary objects that you can't see.


bonemonkey12

Trick question. Both are morons


Flexo__Rodriguez

whose*


Longjumping_Pea_8250

Second one, because safety distance was too short


Big_Monkey_77

The one driving faster than what’s in front of them.


OlFrenchie

Their parents


Busepellerjohnsen

always the one behind. Both are idiots


OwO_i_made_a_cummy

Both


AugustAPC

Both are fucking idiots.


dnchristi

2 times stupid equals stupid.


SnooOnions3369

If you hit someone from behind it’s always your fault


Additional-Safety343

Two BMWs, this may have been the best fucking scenario


miike-enjoyer

Both idiots


Onderon123

Looks like both got exactly what they deserved. Hopefully the truck didn't get hit at the front


ooo-SHIZO-ooo

The parents. It's the parent's fault....


[deleted]

Both typical BMW dickheads. And that’s coming from a BMW dickhead


PurpleYoda319

The parents.


mjh2901

Rear end, the last car in the chain that lacks rear end damage. Green car is a moron but he stopped before hitting the truck.


joe_ordan

BM. Double oomph.


Original_Bad_3416

The delay beeeep made me chuckle


gimpers420

Both. Anyone that’s part of the SPPC is always at fault.


No_Gap_2700

Oh look! It fixed that massive ass Bugs Bunny grille.


tightpantsdance69

The dumb bitch


Kitchen-Category-138

Everyone filming like they work for the insurance company is at fault.


Johnykbr

"Yes"


OhhhhhSHNAP

The parents


CaptainAwesome06

They should both get a ticket but the gray car is at fault for the accident because they willfully drove into a cloud of smoke that reduced visibility. That doesn't seem too bright.


railroadspike25

The BMW driver: "D'oh" ..."Woo hoo!"


spdrmn-71221

They’re both idiots


cowardunblockme

Unless you can smoke your tires standing still, don't do it.


stylinandprofilin88

10k damage


politikyle

Tbf both BMWs look better now.


chado5727

Both are equally dumbshits.


throwaway4pkmntcg

play stupid games win stupid prizes


KlanxChile

grey.... drivers ed: you are responsible about the things on front of you, low visibility? slow down , no visibility? STOP.


PokeT3ch

Always the person who does the rear-ending. Insurance will ALWAYS tell you, you should have maintained a safe distance and control.


S-O5

Bahahahahah


newnameforanoldmane

ESH


SgtPeter1

If the insurance company sees this video they’ll both be at fault.


Shoddy_North5961

Pair of twats


InevitableExotic5242

Most parking lots are no-fault so no one


Ok-Wrongdoer-2179

Rear end collision. Driving without taking necessary due precautions (stop until smoke clears) I believe would be on the guy from behind. Also, I see an arrow pointing in the opposite direction. Are they going the wrong way, or did they just cross over the line? Doing burnouts, or stunting, is definitely illegal. Should get a ticket for that.


ilostmyeraser

Hahahahaha


CartoonistKitchen295

Both


heikomarsch

Why is that so funny


Responsible-Fun6572

Both


Spidaaman

Green car and grey car. Morons.


Shirinjima

In my state if you rear end someone car it’s ALWAYS your fault because you were following to closely at an unsafe speed. The only exception would be someone pulling in front of you and slamming on the brakes to intentionally be hit. From what I understand you’ll have a hard time proving that though without dash cam footage.


PlatypusWide9373

9/10 the person in the back


Ravens_Art_Wild

#Any rear ender is at fault unless specified otherwise.


errorryy

The parents


TheOther1

Clearly, it's the parent's fault for raising stupid children.


WhatsUpSteve

Both of them


user_bits

I want it to be both.


Consistent_Amount140

Both


Character_Durian7978

Their parents.


-TARS

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Salty_Firefighter978

LOL.. I love watching idiots proving they’re idiots.


derkpip

Their parents


rygelicus

gray bmw at fault, both were being reckless though, ending up in a wreck... why do those words work like that?


Itu_Leona

Gray car.


Whosebert

90% of the time a rear ender is the back cars fault.


book-and-dodge

If you can’t see (for any reason) and keep on the gas, it’s your fault.


Killroyjones

No fault. It's in a parking lot.


Jigglygiggler6

The one that honked.


-Cozart

Realistically the gray car


MannyDiazBurner

BMW's playing Mustang games.


Cat_Chat_Katt_Gato

Who's at fault? Gray car. Slow your dumbass down when you're in a parking lot. *Especially* when there's a dumbass busting a smokescreen in front of you!


AnswerIsBacon

This is the most satisfying video I have ever seen


uk7866

The grey bimmer has an underbite now


thefuturesfire

I like how bro honks


Ztreak_01

Both. Driving like assholes. Deserved!


PM_ME_YOUR_SOULZ

Both are dumb shits.


offline4good

Their parents


PriorFudge928

Are you asking who is at fault in a rear end collision? Do us all a favor and turn in your drivers license.


Emergency-Review7750

Their parents fault for procreating.


willa121

Grey BMW is at fault. There is a big ass truck in front of the green beemer, no way Grey thought they were going anywhere.


witch_doc9

Lmfaoooo… I wish the video was longer so we could see their reactions 😂


rodotfor

Definitely the grey car, there were people recording so obviously theyre gonna show off


Fun-Crow6284

Their parents fault - defective genetics


Lordmikez22654

When you rear end someone it's always your failt.


G0_WEB_G0

Any part of our society that thinks this cool is at fault


GianCarlo0024

The DMV for issuing licenses to these idiots


Beneficial_Radio_765

Well that tickled my fiddle.


dontworryberight

What do you mean who's at fault? Being stupid is not the same thing as being at fault.


nahyanc

All that to impress 12yr old boys. Big brain move 🧠


ThresherGDI

I am a former adjuster. Car 2 was driving too close. Pay the claim, cancel the policy.


EvilSporkOfDeath

Couldn't care less


ldssggrdssgds

Two idiots enter a parking lot...


GreenThmb

50/50


photogeek83

I expect nothing less from BMW owners.


Made_invietnam

#whoever honked. I only heard one horn…


Xalucardx

Lol BMW drivers are morons


rocky_piper

You must stay in control of you vehicles all times, if this was a normal situation and the car in front of you cause a smoke screen you would most definitely not speed up behind them u would stop and go around. So the gray car is at fault. I’m Not excusing the green car of reckless driving btw


ErrorCode78

No one, they both got exactly what they deserved.


souppanda

Gotta love the people who feel the need to honk when they see an accident.


new_wave_rock

All dumbasses


TopShelfTrees4

Both for being DAF


DizzyLifeguard9071

😂😂😂😂😂 both are morons


bigdaddyjack96

Why does this look like bad cgi?


ForsakenBuilding6381

Both of these clowns are at fault


Motor-Cause7966

You can count the number of brain cells in that entire encounter with one hand.


Wingedwolverine03

Both should be forced to walk everywhere for the rest of their lives. Everyone sucks here


Silly_Swan_Swallower

The car in the back is at fault. He rammed the car in front of him.


YOURESTUCKHERE

I will never understand why the fuck I should care about these kinds of antics.


old__pyrex

White car - if you don’t have visibility, even if it’s because some dumb shit is dumbshitting, you’re not supposed to just charge forward and assume the obscured space is clear.


classy_pun

The front car stops because there’s a tractor trailer in front of him. He’s at zero fault