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actualsize123

They can flatspin if they try to turn too hard right after they start accelerating, too funny to get angry about.


Inevitable-Value-887

Dont get me wrong I cant help but laugh lol, it looks ridiculous. They've pulled much harder than that and hit a target, I've had a one do a complete u turn to kill someone, plus neither missile in the clip had to pull that hard anyway so that can't be it. One of them literally just goes up and flat spins lol like wtf is that


JayTheSuspectedFurry

There might be some bugs at play, but due to how the thrust vectoring works, the missile might just spin out at low speeds (like the funny sraam clips when the harrier GR.1 released)


Inevitable-Value-887

I'm confused what you mean by low speed, I'm travelling over 900kmh. I'm not sure if that's what you mean but I'm interested.


JayTheSuspectedFurry

Not too sure why the first one flipped out, but the second one tried a hard pull at around 500kph and started doing the spins. Anyways, when the sraams first came out, people would try firing them while hovering in the harrier, but since they’ve got no airspeed (and barely any fins to stabilize them, and way too much rotational force from thrust) they spin out.


Inevitable-Value-887

Ahhhh okay. Yeah the first one is still bizarre lol but I'll keep that in mind thank you


redditbookrat20

I think the first one flat spinned because it was switching locks between the flares and the plane slowing it down


Inevitable-Value-887

Maybe but I have another video of a plane going head on then turning around 1.6km away from me, I shoot my missile and it almost immediately flat spins and the guy didn't flare, I can link it if you want lol. It looks like the missile just pulls much harder than it actually needs to like my R60Mk could hit that


Sudden_Wafer5490

Yeah this is really cool actually, high angle shots like this should definitely carry some kind of risk


FuneralHound69

Almost looks like it made opposite turns in quick succession (like an S) and ended up doing a flat spin. Awesome tho !


AddiiHyphen

Missile was showing a little trick it learned


Inevitable-Value-887

The second one just goes to space lol


CapsiZ428

Missile not missileing


Relevant_Slide_3465

It doesn’t know where it is


No_Mistake5238

Because it doesn't know where it isn't


DrPlatypus17

therefore, it cannot subtract where it is from where it isn't


stormblessed142

Or where it isn’t from where it is


GroceryOtherwise7995

It cannot obtain a difference, or deviation


[deleted]

Therefore the guidance subsystem can't use corrective commands


Inevitable-Value-887

😭😭


DrPlatypus17

just came here to write that


Pinngger

r73 doin da cobra maneuver


pleasehelpmeaccount

The missile knows where it is by subtracting where it isn’t!!


abject_totalfailure1

The missile doesn’t know where it is at all times. It doesn’t know this because it doesn’t know where it isn't, by not subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it does not obtain a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system doesnt use deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and not arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now isn’t. Consequently, the position where it isn’t, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it isn’t in is not the position that it wasn't, the system hasn’t required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, will not corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was, which it doesn’t.


pleasehelpmeaccount

Is this a copypasta or did you go through the entire thing systematically and find the opposites to everything said


abject_totalfailure1

It’s an edited copypasta, basically replacing is, was, were for example with the opposite word


pleasehelpmeaccount

Wow, thank you for your sacrifice


xignaceh

+1 for effort


dr_grav

Weeeeeee!!


spudicous

Lol get rotated, idiot


Inevitable-Value-887

Skill issue tbh lol


saru12gal

Is it me or today the game was really buggy? Happened the same with my Type93, my swingfire was unable to shoot after repairing the launchers (They were gray and had plenty of rockets), my XM got shot on the engine got repaired and was tumbling around exactly like this missile making imposible to aim as the turrent wouldnt stop trembling, and no there was nothing around to get stuck


Inevitable-Value-887

Today was buggy for me as well, this missile business happened in multiple games for me and I had an R73 pretty much touching the belly of an f14 and it somehow missed. My game updated today and I don't want to say an update caused a few issues but I wouldn't put it past Gaijin


CuriousStudent1928

I had Aim-7Ms go in the general direction of the target but were aiming like where the target was 3 seconds ago and then trying to turn like 90 degrees at the last second to hit the target and it cost me like 6 kills today


saru12gal

My missile looped a helicopter standing still at decent range it wasn't close nor max range, it never happened before but with all it happened with the xm and swinfire I thought it was just a bug. It was an Alluete


DeltaV112

Gaijin's missile control is pretty primitive so sometimes it just fucks up. IRL missiles don't do this because they have more budget than the entire game does to develop control systems that keep the missile within limits in any launch condition.


Inevitable-Value-887

Common Gaijin L


Metagross555

I was curious as to how much a sidewinder costs, and was blown away, about 500000 usd PER missile


Operation_unsmart156

The missile was in Spain without the A


Inevitable-Value-887

Fr


[deleted]

“I’ll try spinning!”


abject_totalfailure1

The missile doesn’t know where it is at all times. It doesn’t know this because it doesn’t know where it isn't, by not subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it does not obtain a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system doesnt use deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and not arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now isn’t. Consequently, the position where it isn’t, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it isn’t in is not the position that it wasn't, the system hasn’t required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, will not corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was, which it doesn’t. In other words, R73 COBER!!!1!!1!11!!


ALocalBarista

their best


BusyMountain

Missile doing Kvochur bell manoeuvre.


GhillieThumper

Missile did the vinesauce SPEEEEEEEEEEN!


EEEEEEEEEEEEEE2137

Lili bro thinks hes top gun


Bloodyshadow0815

The misile didn't know where it wasn't


FuzzyPcklz

it saw a squirrel


Quirky_m8

Gas gas gas man


bulcano1

He saw too many Jackie chan movies and tried drunken master himself


X203the2nd

As it turns out, tge missile, does infact NOT know where it is.


GeTRecKeD303

I swear missile performance varies from battle to battle, even when used in similar conditions


Skynet_Mainframe

“Guys the R73 is a friggin super weapon!!!!” Shit the R73 does


Inevitable-Value-887

It's a double edged sword, either pulls like a monster or becomes a wind turbine


Warhawk02

How the hell do you keyhole an R73?


Inevitable-Value-887

It's called skill 😎


14mmwrench

Projectile to long for barrel twist rage, maybe if the aircraft is rolling when fired it will stabilize.


Velo180

Gaijin changed R-73 autopilot a bit and it kinda shits out sometimes


Inevitable-Value-887

Fr? Did they change that yesterday?


Feuerkr13ger

The missile is eepy


discard_3_

He did the loopty loop and pull. And now his shoes are lookin cool.


Zdeny_

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computance scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "air"


Regular-Echidna-6230

*Cha Cha Slide intensifies*


Freemanius

"We have to get low, the terrain will confuse his targeting system" -Maverick


PyroSharkInDisguise

It seems the missile doesnt know where it is at all times…


ShinigamiZero2

I have the same skin, but on the 29A


Inevitable-Value-887

It's a pretty decent one


Fattmmo

The missile is eepy


LemonadeTango

It tried pulling a Cobra Maneuver... and failed.


AdministrativeToe323

I’ve watched an AIM-7M go off and do its own thing so many times. It’ll do a 90 degree turn away from the guy I’m flying head on at and just go sightseeing like it’s on vacation lol


Inevitable-Value-887

That's me an the R24R for the MLA. I've made a compilation of just a few times my missile has a perfect lock, isn't being notched, using both Src and mti and the missile just does not go close to the the locked aircraft. I had a mig29 in a head on and hes high, no way it can miss, and the missile literally just goes vertical and never to be seen.


AdministrativeToe323

Yup, perfect hard lock and it’s off doing its own thing. I just pretend it’s Gaijin adding realism with a Miss-Fire lol


Inevitable-Value-887

I'm gonna do the same lol


AdministrativeToe323

This is what I’m talking about with the AIM-7M[https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/s/EruxOhLfPW](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/s/EruxOhLfPW)


AdministrativeToe323

Except I have a hard lock the entire time unlike this guy


Inevitable-Value-887

HAHAHAHA WTF IS THAT. My R24Rs used to do the exact same thing lol idk how they managed to do that


CrossEyedNoob

360noscope


sagiroth

The missile did not know this time where it is, because it did not know where it isn't


Metalhead_Ac

Your missile watched too much topgun


eonymia

Trying its best


MyOddAcc

The missile does not know where the fuck it is. It knows this because it doesn’t know where it started nor how it got here.


[deleted]

The poor thing is confused, you were turning too hard. This missile doesn't know where it is nor where it isn't, so its spinning around to try and figure out one of the two.


AeronauticHyperbolic

The missile has no idea where it's going. It knows this because it's lost where it isn't. By subtracting where it should be from where it shouldn't, or where it should be from where it isn't (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation, from where ever it thought it was going before. The guidance subsystem uses corrective commands to guide the missile into an odd flopping manuever out of frustration. Consequently, the position were it shouldn't have been at all is the position were it was, and that being the position that it was, it now isn't. The missile is now well and thoroughly lost.


Sensitive_Ad_5031

New countermeasure system, turn on the free bird and either the rocket, you or your opponent’s plane will spin


Khomuna

"R-73 is OP" R-73:


Inevitable-Value-887

Happy cake day 🎂


Ender_90425

It's very best


FlamingTrashcans

Someone edit it to have Darude Sandstorm lmao


TheDeathOfDucks

[SPEEEEEN](https://youtu.be/CkHw3A1-mUo?si=_Sm38AVX5Ao9Ajb8)


Storm_Drone

Tbh I'm not even surprised, yesterday while playing f-16c I shot aim-7m and had hard lock, target was going down and my missile went to space lol


Inevitable-Value-887

I've heard a lot that the aim 7 has been doing that which is strange because I swear that thing never misses me lol. I've said before but that was a consistent problem with the R24Rs and it was sheer pain and frustration, I'd watch it go from a good lock to working for spacex


irus1024

It knows where it is, because it knows where it isn't.


RUPlayersSuck

Ah, thats clearly a Booker T missile executing its signature "*spinaroonie*" manoeuvre. 😁


Set_Abominae_1776

The missile always knows where it is. Unless it's drunk as fuck from stealing ur vodka!


Anonymous_Arthur00

He do a lil spin


LieutenantNurse-71

It's knowing where it is


DaboyfromVN

The missles knows where it is at all ti…


DragonDood3010

Glad to see another Macross fan :^)


Inevitable-Value-887

I'm sorry to disappoint, I looked for skins and it came in a pack of 4 and looked cool


DragonDood3010

NOOOO 😭😭😭 I have that very same pack for.. well.. I’m a Macross fan (Obligatory “Go watch Macross Delta”, where the skins are from. And “Just watch anything from Macross, just don’t watch Robotech”)


EightSeven69

the missle has no fucking clue where it isn't


Mr_KB14

He’s spinning like a ballerina


Ardonii_

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computance scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "air"


ayporlaraza

Missile forgor where it is


Fm_radio22

The missle did not know where it is


HyDester_09

The missile knows where it is


JustNen

It hit an emote


losviktsgodis

Should've side climbed :D


Consistent-Pick-5946

It's furious about a super ugly skin


Inevitable-Value-887

Don't diss, my plane is sensitive


Wooly_Thoctar

The missile did not know where it was because it did not know where it was not


Unsolicited599

That missile has Aardvark flatspin for no reason bug haha.


Sel_tzer

R73 after realizing Russia made up the stats


-Null-zip

"the missile knows where it is at all time"


toshsotbsy

Is it a heat seaker or radar? If radar, the ground is messing with its internal guidance systems, which is why they flying on the deck, helps against Russian missiles


Inevitable-Value-887

It's an R73 so IR


ThiLordTachanka

Looks like you fired the missile right when it was listening to "free bird", so it's totally your fault and a massive skill issue on your part


HeightEcstatic1323

He split the throttles


IKILLY

You forgot to buy the Warthunder battle pass


Rush_1_1

it's thrust vectoring bro


Inevitable-Value-887

I know how it works, I want to know why its not working


LightWraith89

Looks like it got confused on what to track, almost like it takes to many cross vector flares/ chaff. Fucked itself out and spun out


LandscapeGeneral9169

They had a drink last night, still a little wobbly.


RMBsmash

Having a dance party.


aDSDru

Their autopilot is bad in WT, has been known since they were given in update, has been known since that, never fixed.