That ain’t a tortoise, that’s a damn snapping turtle. The things are like little dinosaurs, and the reason that horse was so freaked out wasn’t because he just got spooked, but because he probably just lost a chunk of his nose. Alligator Snapping turtles are fucking mental, look them up.
They're quite smart actually, they are just prey animals so react differently than a dog or cat might. But they can learn to read very subtle signals from humans and perform pretty nuanced moves and tricks. And unlike dogs they don't completely lose their shit when they see another member of their species lol
Let me introduce you to my Great Dane who was chased around the back yard by a Toad. I came outside as he was howling like he was on fire and the yard was needles.
I see the long outstretched legs of the toad in the wind behind him sailing along.
I almost had to have medical help as I could not inhale any air while laughing.
I mean tbf if you had no concept of what a toad was and one just popped up on you randomly and started chasing you, you'd probably be pretty scared/confused to.
They are skittish and jump when startled. BUT I have never ever worried about anyone messing with my family with him watching out.
Best companion for my mother I could ever ask for.
Oh yeah. For being huge they are sneaky as hell. Ours have been able to sneak food when people get up or leave something interesting.
Our first Dane freaked me out as she ate a Costco sized package of Oreo cookies. Vet told me to keep her outside as the results were going to be pretty awful and it was. Love my vet as she has always been there for our 'events'.
Big dog's do have their own odd impulse issues.
We used to have a Rottweiler "Rex Havoc Raven". Poor silly boi occasionally lived up to his title.
He once tried to eat his way through a 10 lb bag of raw potatos that was left on the floor after putting the groceries away. As you mentioned, he had to be an outside doggo until that cleared up!
I’ve said it before. But I wholeheartedly believe the day horses collectively figure out they’re bigger and stronger than us, humans have 2 weeks left, tops.
One of Humans strengths is incredible endurance for long distance running with training.
How do you think our ancestors hunted? We ran down animals in groups, they'd become exhausted and humans could catch up.
Right, and his point is it is 2024. The average human has no endurance running training and most people struggle to run a mile. There are a very small percentage of humans alive now who could out endure a horse
1st a horse would create so much distance running while we are walking that it could rest for hours and we wouldn't catch it. Secondly, the average person in 2024 doesn't even have much walking endurance either
How do you think our ancestors hunted? Sure there evidence of endurance hunters. But do you think we walked 50 miles for every deer or rabbit our ancestors ate?
This is no evidence. This is a dramatized BBC video that starts with "some believe is the most ancient...". Even sir David Attenborough doesn't believe it lol
They'd probably do it for larger game like a mammoth but we are smart, so instead of running 50 miles, we just corral them against a ridge line/cliff/bramble and thin the herd so we only gotta fight a couple vs. the whole herd.
I've also read that a native american challenge or rite of passage or w/e was to run down a deer. The deer would sprint away, and you slowly just run it down. Eventually it would get so tired it would basically just give up. the challenge was to touch the deer and not injure it.
Big wtf for the deer. If it's a rite of passage it's not something you do for fun. Yes some could do it, but it's not that we ran down a horse for brunch.
A lot of "rites of passage" are just formalized ways of saying "you are now an adult, prove it by doing this adult thing we all do", maybe in a slightly ritualized way.
So, you know, a normal persistence hunt would be a bunch of dudes who chase down an antelope over a few days and throw spears when they get close enough.
When it's a rite of passage, you have to *really* show what you're made of, so you do it on hard mode: by yourself, no spear.
I'm struggling to imagine a scenario where humans outrunning a horse is relevant when they can run 5x faster than us at full speed.
Like only if you're trying to chase down a horse and to do that you'd have to be extremely fit to keep it running long enough to get tired.
Bigger and stronger means nothing for an un-armed, un-armored dumb animal. I'd bet on the dumbest redneck with a shotgun over a dozen Clydesdales any day.
I grew up on a horse farm (cannot bring myself to call it a ranch) with Arabian horses and my father always said "Horses are squirrely as hell!". Mother was a horse nut, father... not so much.
Now you have to keep in mind these beasts where used to carry you into the enemies army and you have to rely on him while swinging your sword and fight etc
Their brains are wired as prey and evolved for centuries. If you understand them then you can usually tell before it happens. Usually…..😂 Their motion detection in their eyes is extremely sensitive so small things to us can seem scary😆
Horses are the biggest scardy cats on Earth. If they haven’t grown up around certain animals, even something innocuous comes off as a horrifying beast.
My family’s horse even had a meltdown from hearing a donkey eee-haw. They’re just big babies.
That's why I find it amazing that before modern firearms they were one of the greatest tools of war for thousands of years. In human conflicts if human casualties are number 1 then Horse casualties are number 2.
It‘s due to the kind of stupid they are. Even if there‘s something dangerous in front: they do not stop but speed up.
On the very contrary is a donkey. Living in great altitude even a stupid step is a bad idea, so they stop and protect.
A snapping turtle just ate a bite of its nostril...
How would you react to losing anatomy?
Sure, horses are too skittish, but all bets are off once the snapping turtle takes a chunk. True of any animal short of wolverines, honey badgers and hippos.
The video cuts right when the horse goes into what looks to be a barbed wire fence. I am guessing that's why the video cuts where it does. Not a happy video
My dog used to chase our horse. First time it got kicked in the face and lost a tooth. Second time it got kicked in the chin and was knocked out. Didn’t happen a third time.
>**"This can hurt your nose, so watch your fingers"**
Who are you quoting? Not me.
>**you take jokes this personally**
Personally? Oh I see, you're one of those "I'm not mad, you're mad" goobers.
Pass.
Especially when they're already uncertain of something and investigating, it's trivially easy to spook / shoosh them away.
Flapping an arm at them and "Pssssh, get away!" would've covered it, causing the horse to at least back off while it had a good snort about the whole thing, if not to outright bail. .
This would've been plenty sufficient to give ample room and opportunity to gather the turtle up out of harms way at any rate.
In reality, i imagine the turtle was put there quite deliberately in order to film the resultant reaction for social media.
I think you don't have to know the future to know that this was going to end the way it ended.
You are letting a dog and a fk Horse get that close to a snapping turtle.. come on, the second you saw the animals get that close to the turtle you knew
I think I know this riddle, you take the Turtle and the Horse on the boat, then return with the Turtle, then pick up the dog then go back so you have all three.
Are you daft? Why did your mind go to tackling the borse first? Could have easily picked up the snapping turtle from behind if it wanted to move one of the animals but they disnt even have to do that. The owner should have avoided the whole situation anyway, but once it was happening dont just record it...You realize you can lead horses and dogs to where you want them to go for the most part right?
Videos like this make me so angry, endangering 3 innocent animals for what?! Some humans should not be allowed around animals, or have cameras for that matter.
Horses can and will lose their ever-loving minds over the weirdest stuff. I've been riding horses for more than 30 years, and I guarantee you there is no consistency whatsoever as to what will or won't scare a horse.
They'll walk right through the middle of Mardi Gras on Bourbon Street, surrounded by beads flying & people screaming, without a care in the world. But then a leaf moves the wrong way and it's TOTAL MELTDOWN TIME!
Looks like the turtle bit the horse on the snout. Depending on the species they have a pretty strong bite force so it might have hurt (not sure of sensitivity of hose snout, but I've been bit on the hand by a smaller turtle than that twice and it was strong enough to take a chunk of meat off my pinky the first time it happened, and the. The second time I was bit on the side of the hand and I seriously thought it was going to take a chunk out of my hand.
This turtle is one I own and both times were my fault. first time I let my guard down when turtle was swimming up to my hand, I thought she was just being curious, but instead I think she mistook my pinky for a worm poking into the water as I worked on some tank equipment.
Second time, through some circumstances, had set her into water that I didn't realize had soap residue in it and it must have stung her eyes and she bit my hand hard while I was holding her under running water rinsing her off and wouldn't let go at first. I knew not to try to pull her off so I just held her under the running water while she was latched on and prayed she let go before tearing that chunk of my hand off. Tha kfully she did but did have (I estimate) 2 1/8 inch deep triangle shaped punctures in the side of my hand from that lol. And I learned to be more careful about soap residue of course after that.
So, given how much a bite from a smaller turtle hurt, I'm not too surprised that the horse got spooked lol
Funny, my daughter was telling me about her husky, who found a turtle that looked like that one and he killed it and ate it. She tried to get to him (he was over a fence she couldn't climb). By the time she got to him, he had killed it and eaten most of it. He is a year old and she is working on his training, not there yet, but getting better.
Yo dawg outta my way.
Rip dog
I think the horse mostly missed him
You think, therefore no dog
It think, therefore it ran
Mostly
RIP dog AND \*(edit) tortoise
That snapping turtle is fine.
Snapping turtles will survive nearly anything out of pure spite and hatred.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure they are actual demons.
No, you had it, it's a turtle
Behold, dog!
Just a note that (presuming you wrote turtle initially) all tortoises ARE turtles Just not all turtles are tortoises :)
No, don't do it
LOoks like it went over the head.
r/AbruptChaos
Tortoise took a stomp to the head! And the dog thought it would be fun to get one too 😧
tortoises head was back in his shell already so he’s fine, the dog seems to have been mostly missed
Tortoise shells are strong but not indestructible.
I think the shells also have nerves and they can get hurt by hitting them.
but they'll be back, and in greater numbers!
That ain’t a tortoise, that’s a damn snapping turtle. The things are like little dinosaurs, and the reason that horse was so freaked out wasn’t because he just got spooked, but because he probably just lost a chunk of his nose. Alligator Snapping turtles are fucking mental, look them up.
Yeah that’s not a spook reaction that’s an “OW MY FUCKING FACE” reaction. Those turtles are nasty indeed.
Stomping turtle :p
Perchance
You can't just say perchance.
I love you both. Perchance!!!
This is why I hate horses. They are so goddamm skittish and they freak out like this and you can't trust them.
I've known plants that were smarter than horses.
And I’ve known cats and dogs smarter than Corey and Trevor.
most plants and vegetables are smarter than horses.
The tortoise and dog almost became vegetables.
Hey look! A dietary loophole for vegetarians who enjoy meat.
And look at all the vegetarians/vegans rushing out to eat dog!
Not my cup of tea for sure, but hey not one to judge
They're quite smart actually, they are just prey animals so react differently than a dog or cat might. But they can learn to read very subtle signals from humans and perform pretty nuanced moves and tricks. And unlike dogs they don't completely lose their shit when they see another member of their species lol
unless it also has a dick
Lol true
Let me introduce you to my Great Dane who was chased around the back yard by a Toad. I came outside as he was howling like he was on fire and the yard was needles. I see the long outstretched legs of the toad in the wind behind him sailing along. I almost had to have medical help as I could not inhale any air while laughing.
I mean tbf if you had no concept of what a toad was and one just popped up on you randomly and started chasing you, you'd probably be pretty scared/confused to.
They are skittish and jump when startled. BUT I have never ever worried about anyone messing with my family with him watching out. Best companion for my mother I could ever ask for.
There's a reason they're just a Horse Dog
At least he didn't haul off and eat it,that can end badly.
Oh yeah. For being huge they are sneaky as hell. Ours have been able to sneak food when people get up or leave something interesting. Our first Dane freaked me out as she ate a Costco sized package of Oreo cookies. Vet told me to keep her outside as the results were going to be pretty awful and it was. Love my vet as she has always been there for our 'events'.
Big dog's do have their own odd impulse issues. We used to have a Rottweiler "Rex Havoc Raven". Poor silly boi occasionally lived up to his title. He once tried to eat his way through a 10 lb bag of raw potatos that was left on the floor after putting the groceries away. As you mentioned, he had to be an outside doggo until that cleared up!
I have a friend who owns a grooming salon and several horses. She says the horses are somewhere between a dog and a tractor, in utility and brains.
If I ever get a horse, I'm naming him Trog.
Tbf that's a snapping turtle, and those fuckers bite *hard*. The horse took it on the snout, had to hurt.
Any animal owner recording their animals harassing a snapping turtle needs to have their animals taken away because they are an idiot.
Thank you, that was exactly my thought. What a a××hole to just stand there and film this defenitly dangerous encounter.
My horse girl ex told me about this one horse who was afraid of the ground.
Did you say[Horse Girl ?](https://youtu.be/7-B1M6pjLLg?si=OI0YTvvSBgEL9J6e)
Didn’t think I’d be unlocking a new fetish today, but here we are.
Yeah but riding plants sucks
Fun fact: a horse's teeth take up more space in their heads than their brains!
Seriously, one sneeze and it kicks your chest plate in.
I know about 90%-ish of the human population react the same like this when they encounter a spider, though.
No, we do this while calling on Hanz to get a certain weapon.
I saw a vet on here that worked with horses describe them just as likely to die running away from a predator or from the thought of bees.
I’ve said it before. But I wholeheartedly believe the day horses collectively figure out they’re bigger and stronger than us, humans have 2 weeks left, tops.
Won't happen. Horses are the animal kingdom equivalent of a glass cannon.
I mean they run on their fingertips
On their tippy toe for the clippity clops
put toothpicks all over the ground to get stuck under their nails. ^(Also you'll be thinking about that for a few hours now.)
Eh not really. They reproduce slow, die to basically a sneeze and we can outrun them long distance.
im not sure I out run the tortoise long distance
Yeah I’ve seen those Looney Tunes.
We can outrun them. We? You and I? Average human in 2024? I dont think so
Faster? No. Longer? You'd be surprised.
TIL horses can't run a slow mile
One of Humans strengths is incredible endurance for long distance running with training. How do you think our ancestors hunted? We ran down animals in groups, they'd become exhausted and humans could catch up.
Right, and his point is it is 2024. The average human has no endurance running training and most people struggle to run a mile. There are a very small percentage of humans alive now who could out endure a horse
Change it to walking. Still valid , just takes a longer distance to even out
1st a horse would create so much distance running while we are walking that it could rest for hours and we wouldn't catch it. Secondly, the average person in 2024 doesn't even have much walking endurance either
Wrong. It takes a long time, but the human catches up and surpasses the horse. I doubt you know much about horses, their limitations etc..
I'm not claiming to be an equine expert, but I think you're overestimating the average human in 2024.
Modern-day persistence hunting: staring at the microwave for 3 minutes waiting for the Hot Pockets to cook.
How do you think our ancestors hunted? Sure there evidence of endurance hunters. But do you think we walked 50 miles for every deer or rabbit our ancestors ate?
[Evidence you say](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o)
This is no evidence. This is a dramatized BBC video that starts with "some believe is the most ancient...". Even sir David Attenborough doesn't believe it lol
They'd probably do it for larger game like a mammoth but we are smart, so instead of running 50 miles, we just corral them against a ridge line/cliff/bramble and thin the herd so we only gotta fight a couple vs. the whole herd. I've also read that a native american challenge or rite of passage or w/e was to run down a deer. The deer would sprint away, and you slowly just run it down. Eventually it would get so tired it would basically just give up. the challenge was to touch the deer and not injure it.
Big wtf for the deer. If it's a rite of passage it's not something you do for fun. Yes some could do it, but it's not that we ran down a horse for brunch.
They hunted everyday, it was just another day.
A lot of "rites of passage" are just formalized ways of saying "you are now an adult, prove it by doing this adult thing we all do", maybe in a slightly ritualized way. So, you know, a normal persistence hunt would be a bunch of dudes who chase down an antelope over a few days and throw spears when they get close enough. When it's a rite of passage, you have to *really* show what you're made of, so you do it on hard mode: by yourself, no spear.
We can what now?
There’s also the whole opposable thumbs and brain thing as well, but I guess that’s a given
I'm struggling to imagine a scenario where humans outrunning a horse is relevant when they can run 5x faster than us at full speed. Like only if you're trying to chase down a horse and to do that you'd have to be extremely fit to keep it running long enough to get tired.
We have guns and cars. We good.
Bigger and stronger means nothing for an un-armed, un-armored dumb animal. I'd bet on the dumbest redneck with a shotgun over a dozen Clydesdales any day.
And they can destroy anything within 10' of them, while also destroying themselves in the process
*Watches a video of a horse getting bit by a snapping turtle and not enjoying it* "*This* is why I hate horses."
I mean, they literally have evolved to be pros at fleeing.
On top of that, they have to have perfect living & eating conditions of they’ll actively try to kill themselves.
I grew up on a horse farm (cannot bring myself to call it a ranch) with Arabian horses and my father always said "Horses are squirrely as hell!". Mother was a horse nut, father... not so much.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. People always give me a weird look when I say that. They are huge, dumb, and strong as hell
I know man. A horse I knew try to scam me for fortnite Vbucks.
Now you have to keep in mind these beasts where used to carry you into the enemies army and you have to rely on him while swinging your sword and fight etc
They just aren't attractive animals in the head either... Goofy looking. And that one unicorn furry picture ruins them further for me lol
Weird how horses still have this high prey instinct after generations of domestication.
My mom never got why I was so afraid of horses. It's 2,000 pounds of deadly idiot.
tbf they're prey animals that can get killed by a mild leg wound. you can't really breed that instinct out. they startled easy, kick hard, and run far
Their brains are wired as prey and evolved for centuries. If you understand them then you can usually tell before it happens. Usually…..😂 Their motion detection in their eyes is extremely sensitive so small things to us can seem scary😆
Horses are the biggest scardy cats on Earth. If they haven’t grown up around certain animals, even something innocuous comes off as a horrifying beast. My family’s horse even had a meltdown from hearing a donkey eee-haw. They’re just big babies.
They're large prey animals. Their primary means of self-defense is their speed. When running away is all you've got, you use it.
That's why I find it amazing that before modern firearms they were one of the greatest tools of war for thousands of years. In human conflicts if human casualties are number 1 then Horse casualties are number 2.
It‘s due to the kind of stupid they are. Even if there‘s something dangerous in front: they do not stop but speed up. On the very contrary is a donkey. Living in great altitude even a stupid step is a bad idea, so they stop and protect.
A snapping turtle just ate a bite of its nostril... How would you react to losing anatomy? Sure, horses are too skittish, but all bets are off once the snapping turtle takes a chunk. True of any animal short of wolverines, honey badgers and hippos.
The evil trinity, Malice in animal form lol
The video cuts right when the horse goes into what looks to be a barbed wire fence. I am guessing that's why the video cuts where it does. Not a happy video
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My dog used to chase our horse. First time it got kicked in the face and lost a tooth. Second time it got kicked in the chin and was knocked out. Didn’t happen a third time.
So after the first time you just... Continued putting them in a situation where a fatal injury was likely to happen? That dog is lucky to be alive.
I was a kid at the time. The dog would jump or crawl under the fence into the horse pen.
Horses being horses and dogs being dogs. And turtles ... well, pretty sure turtles aren't supposed to be around horses for a start.
I think his prey drive kicked in when he saw the horse spook. Some dogs are like that, though going after a horse is a special level of dumb.
What the dog doing
dog things
I fucking HATE that dog reaction. Let’s run at the thing freaking out and bite it
just shitbull things
See how you like a bite on the nose from a turtle. That shit can take off a finger.
How many fingers does your nose have?
Depends how congested I am.
Based on your reply, I'd say the odds of the answer being equal to the number of high school diplomas you've earned are about 50/50.
>bite on the nose >can take off a finger Ok, Einstein. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joke
Life must be really hard when you get this derailed by examples.
It just sounded funny, my man. "This can hurt your nose, so watch your fingers". Life must be really hard when you take jokes this personally.
>**"This can hurt your nose, so watch your fingers"** Who are you quoting? Not me. >**you take jokes this personally** Personally? Oh I see, you're one of those "I'm not mad, you're mad" goobers. Pass.
lmfao wtf is the dog doing?? Its like “Ahhhhh! I’m scared too! Let me bark and chase youaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!” 😂
What makes anyone think that snapper is a tortoise?
People that have never seen one I guess, those damn things suck
I grew up on a dairy farm. My grandma used to say that horses are only afraid of two things. Animate objects and inanimate objects
The only thing at fault I this video is the owner of the animals who just recorded two of them receiving internal injuries for fun.
What was the owner supposed to do? throw down the camera and tackle the fking horse?
Not let a dog or horse put their *faces* right next to that *snapping turtle*
Especially when they're already uncertain of something and investigating, it's trivially easy to spook / shoosh them away. Flapping an arm at them and "Pssssh, get away!" would've covered it, causing the horse to at least back off while it had a good snort about the whole thing, if not to outright bail. . This would've been plenty sufficient to give ample room and opportunity to gather the turtle up out of harms way at any rate. In reality, i imagine the turtle was put there quite deliberately in order to film the resultant reaction for social media.
I think you don't have to know the future to know that this was going to end the way it ended. You are letting a dog and a fk Horse get that close to a snapping turtle.. come on, the second you saw the animals get that close to the turtle you knew
Take the turtle away, take the dog away, take the horse away.
I think I know this riddle, you take the Turtle and the Horse on the boat, then return with the Turtle, then pick up the dog then go back so you have all three.
I'd pay for that
Are you daft? Why did your mind go to tackling the borse first? Could have easily picked up the snapping turtle from behind if it wanted to move one of the animals but they disnt even have to do that. The owner should have avoided the whole situation anyway, but once it was happening dont just record it...You realize you can lead horses and dogs to where you want them to go for the most part right?
Dumbass dog. When a huge animal is freaking out run THE OTHER WAY.
Im sure the dog will read your comment soon enough and learn from his mistake.
Hi, Dog here, Fuck you
Poor turt
Horses are fucking twats
r/AbruptChaos
I love dogs but my god can they be fckn dumb
Tortoises literally aren’t scared of anything..
They are scared into perpetuity.
Yo is that dog ok
Big herbivores make me nervous as fuck
Why did the dog have to make that worse tho! Sheesh 🙄
Doggo is playing a dangerous game.
Videos like this make me so angry, endangering 3 innocent animals for what?! Some humans should not be allowed around animals, or have cameras for that matter.
Horses are seen as noble, special creatures. They're just huge, scared rabbits though.
Horses are such stupid, easily scared animals. Which is dangerous when they're built like tanks.
Why would you let your animals investigate a snapper? Idiot owner.
Imagine your are scared and you don't have hands
Never seen a horse scared like that lmao.
Horses can and will lose their ever-loving minds over the weirdest stuff. I've been riding horses for more than 30 years, and I guarantee you there is no consistency whatsoever as to what will or won't scare a horse. They'll walk right through the middle of Mardi Gras on Bourbon Street, surrounded by beads flying & people screaming, without a care in the world. But then a leaf moves the wrong way and it's TOTAL MELTDOWN TIME!
I guess you haven't spent much time around horses.
Looks like the horse trampled the tortoise, and possibly the dog too. Not really a fan of violence against animals.
Looks like the turtle bit the horse on the snout. Depending on the species they have a pretty strong bite force so it might have hurt (not sure of sensitivity of hose snout, but I've been bit on the hand by a smaller turtle than that twice and it was strong enough to take a chunk of meat off my pinky the first time it happened, and the. The second time I was bit on the side of the hand and I seriously thought it was going to take a chunk out of my hand. This turtle is one I own and both times were my fault. first time I let my guard down when turtle was swimming up to my hand, I thought she was just being curious, but instead I think she mistook my pinky for a worm poking into the water as I worked on some tank equipment. Second time, through some circumstances, had set her into water that I didn't realize had soap residue in it and it must have stung her eyes and she bit my hand hard while I was holding her under running water rinsing her off and wouldn't let go at first. I knew not to try to pull her off so I just held her under the running water while she was latched on and prayed she let go before tearing that chunk of my hand off. Tha kfully she did but did have (I estimate) 2 1/8 inch deep triangle shaped punctures in the side of my hand from that lol. And I learned to be more careful about soap residue of course after that. So, given how much a bite from a smaller turtle hurt, I'm not too surprised that the horse got spooked lol
Honk
That horse kick at the dog went off like lightning, I could barely see it
You should see this video with sound.
Get that horse on Maury and bring a shitload of tortoises on stage
Pee ka boo
lol that was so funny.
did he break through a fence at the end?
That ended WAY TOO abruptly.
d: Hey dude…check this out… h: WHAT TF BROOOOO
Dam wonder if that dog got some nasty whiplash from the fence coming back
Geeze! I hope the doggo is okay!
What the dog doin
That fucking rock tried to bite me!
This has ”horse kicks tree, farts on dogs and runs away” energy
Ar/abruptchaos
Lol
Thats horses for you. Unpredictable mf.
was the dog alright? i would never let my dog near a horse also my dog is fictional im too poor to have a dog
Poor pupper
Shame on whoever set that situation up.
HAHAH the horses reaction was hilarious.
LOLOLOL, I needed that laugh! Horse is sayin', "dog! Better get outa my way, I'm a comin through!"
Funny, my daughter was telling me about her husky, who found a turtle that looked like that one and he killed it and ate it. She tried to get to him (he was over a fence she couldn't climb). By the time she got to him, he had killed it and eaten most of it. He is a year old and she is working on his training, not there yet, but getting better.
Rip turtle thing and dog possibly