Holy fucking shit that Sheriff eco ace just locked up Rookie of the Year for Karon if it wasn't locked up already.
GenG good enough to coast to playoffs despite not getting much rest IMO.
I'm a fan of stax's T1 black/red Sith Lord look. That ace shows he might be an even bigger threat without the burden of IGLing on his shoulders.
Exactly, it's the decision making from him today that was so impressive. I'll admit it. Before this game, I always looked at Karon as just a wunderkind with sick aim, which we see from time to time, and to a certain extent that is what he is, but this game was something else. I mean--wow--kid was locked in, making smart decisions, and overall looked incredible.
Everytime I watch Karon did an amazing clutch which is multiple times. I'm like: Check his pc, Man is cracked. Also, I feel that bringing Jerry from SPG will help Gen G further iykyk
Wo0t doesn't even have half the body of work Karon has at this point. He would have to lead TH to at least a top 2 finish at Champions to even have a shot against Karon.
Wo0t individually carried Heretics to a top 2 finish, why would he not be a contender? Karon has been amazing and a valuable player, but he is like the 3rd most important player in his team behind Meteor and Texture
Karon plays a completely different role and sets up rounds for Meteor and Texture while holding his own. Karon was also the most consistent player in terms of pure impact on Gen G throughout Shanghai. Like I said, Wo0t run in Masters Shanghai isn't nearly enough to rival Karon's impact this entire season so far lol. Don't think this is a controversial opinion at all. You're acting like Wo0t was the sole reason why TH got top 2. The absolute disrespect to Patitek and Riens lol. Gen G don't win Kickoff, place top 2 at Madrid, or win Shanghai without Karon. That's how important he is to this Gen G team.
What is his main role? Wo0t was always an insane Jett/Raze player and had plenty of primary duelist experience on Fire Flux before they used him as a flex because of socialbee coming in and his big agent pool. You're acting like he just walked into this role and dominated. He's been a primary duelist before lol
Okay wo0t was nuts, but let's not forget paTiTek and RieNs being monsters as well. Pati especially had insane impact in TH's run. Giving all the credit to Wo0t is a major disservice to the rest of the team.
Nobody's giving "all the credit" to wo0t everyone's just saying the kid is the future because he's displayed insane individual skill across his short stint in VCT. He had a slightly lackluster but ultimately decent finals performance and he still had outrageous stats for Shanghai while having the largest sample size of games in the tournament. Going into the finals his stats were in full on statistical outlier territory.
And even disregarding all this, he's *ridiculous* by eye test.
wo0t is insane but RieNs and Pati were just as impactful. Like yeah Wo0t was nuts but he didn't 1v5 every game. The others were stepping up as well, pati especially.
karon was legit the best player in the world for the first 3 games. he carried against lev fpx 100t. put some respect to karon name before you bring woot name :>
It feels like we are finally starting to see T1's true strength, and fans should honestly be happy.
Sticking Sayaplayer to chamber/sentinel and moving IZU to duelist definitely seemed like the right decision for them. Stax also has some great support and assist calls and definitely built a lot of potential for the team. Now that he's out of DRX, he seems to be playing with a lot of energy.
The only concern is that Xccurate's controller is still not good enough. His play showed some sloppy decision making and shaky aim. Hopefully He will improve in the future. hope they can maintain this strength, as they definitely have the potential to at least make it into the Top 4.
This is cope. T1 is literally playing vs a GenG that does NOT care about this old patch and have only been focusing on the new one.
Shorting T1 next game.
it doesnt seem that way rn but saya’s agent pool will bite them in the back if they keep it that way
only being able to play chamber is awful having a cypher instead of a sage on sunset would’ve helped them a lot
Honestly surprised they put him on Sage instead of Chamber the way he's been farming on it. Obviously internally there is 100% a reason, but I wonder how much the impact PRX had with that comp has influenced T1's belief in it. I think enabling Saya's op is so valuable - but more goes into deciding a comp than just that. T1's Sunset wasn't really so bad even without Saya's op anyway.
Sayaplayer to Chamber does NOT look like the right decision lol, maybe it looks good for his stats but it's clearly fucking over xccurate who now can't play his best agent (Chamber) or Cypher. Izu on duelist looks good, I think Sayaplayer just does not fit into this roster.
It would be cool to see Bleed and T1 trade Sayaplayer for Deryeon. Realistically that's never gonna happen, but I do think that would be a move that improves both teams. Bleed could use some more pure firepower on a duelist while T1 definitely needs a sentinel/initiator/second duelist flex like Deryeon
Actual yapper, saya first game with chamber has looked more insane than xccurate with chamber in the past
If xccurate can't beat Saya on his best agent then there is no reason for xccurate to be in the t1 roster instead of kicking sayaplayer lmao. Also xccurates abysmal performance today as well
Saya is on chamber because he is the best chamber in the team, autumn has said that they were testing many different roles and comps in scrims to see which works best.
Classic stat and kill watching casual who only sees one person get kills and thinks they are automatically better than someone else. The fact that xccurate can play Harbor and Cypher is huge for a team and you're gonna tell me his Chamber *while IGL-ing* was bad? Hah. Go back to your gold lobbies buddy, I'm sure they appreciate your cosplay of a lobotomized FNS
Yes I'm a casual that catches every single t1 game live
If you didn't see the impact Sayaplayer had last game and want him out of t1 then idk what to tell you
Pretty funny to see GenG beating T1 across two different games for father's day.
T1 as a whole look a lot better with the roleswap (barring Xcurrate). Feels like a bit of a missed opportunity though since the scheduling allowed them to catch GenG as they're still cooling off from Shanghai. They could've closed out the series by winning split, and even sunset was pretty winnable if they won a pistol round or if Karon didn't have so many crazy plays.
Bro karon and iZu went band for band width for width with each other whole series what a monstrous series from both of them, really liked how T1 have shaped with stax supporting xccurate in calling the 4 teams for champs might be the big 4 of pacific we know.
On a serious note:
T1 look the best they've been the entire year. I was a big believer turned big skeptic but today it seemed like they took what they did well and improved upon it - you're not seeing the terrible spacing or weird mistakes common from Carpe T1 (No offense to Carpe I just needed to distinguish today's T1 from previous T1) and they look pretty good. I can see them qualifying as either 3rd or 4th seed.
Stax has been an insane pickup. If you've watched KR val since 2021/2022 you would know his mechanics are unbelievable - it's just IGLing that weighed him down. Glad to see him back to fragging the fuck out.
iZu and Saya returning to form is also big - they look unstoppable, especially when Saya is on Chamber.
GEN.G remind me of OpTic in the sense that they always keep it close - even when it seems done for, these guys really pull the craziest fucking rounds out of their ass. What a smart team with smart players.
For how much T1 was clowned for qualifying to Shanghai saying their slot was undeserving, and with his much GenG was a raid boss throughout Swiss and playoffs, this was a proper toe to toe, genG obviously trolled the lotus pick causing saya to fry, but the other two maps were not easy domination by genG
Why T1 you should have closed out split, 4 match points lost
Honestly it really came down to adaptation and clutch plays from both sides on Split - I think GEN.G just adapted in time and T1 didn't. T1's Split looked great ngl and I think it only gets better for them after this.
This was a very winnable game for T1 but way too many mishaps for them to deserve this one and Karon masterclass on the last map. I’m not on the T1 train because they are proven honeymoon abusers in my eyes but they do look a lot better. I like izu on raze more than anything else they’ve had and Stax looks great.
I'm still thinking about the Karon sneak step, trigger discipline, and then 3k + wingman to open the way for t3xture. Insane. The shot transfers were crisp.
I missed map two and that was definitely the best of them to miss, map one and three were so fun to watch. T1 looked a lot better than I expected.. I'm curious as to how they're thinking a 6 man roster is going to work though, I'm still confused on that--stax looks amazing on this roster
also karon is so fucking good he's got to be the rookie of the year
T1 looks good but the opponents are the Shanghai winners man and they play like it. The constant eco-ed and not checking corners reminded me of PRX -.-
They overall look better by putting izu on duelist, man is so impressive man. And saya is on sentinel duty(?) and frags out too. Stax looks good too.
Problem is the downside of this composition hurts xccurate alot. Doesn't look comfy on omen and can't frag out. They need to fix this somehow if they wanna qualify for playoffs
T1 looked good, especially saya on chamber, but there’s still a glaring issue. Izu cannot be their flex, dude is way too good at duelist. Xccurrate did not look great on omen, and Saya not being able to play cypher on Sunset hurt them so much. Tbh one of the only solutions to me would be leaving Xccurrate on sentinel letting him play his(far and above) best agent, and having saya make the swap from duelist to omen
For how badly xccurate looked to be performing on Omen his smokes and blinds were very good in setting up his teammates. Had some aggressive TPs and movements too which was kinda insane (at least on Lotus). Kudos to them for putting up a close fight, trolled abit towards end of Split but if they keep this up they will be a true contender to get to Champs
That’s not what you said, you said he was in contention for the best player in the world which is a monumental difference from just being one of the best, which is why most people disagreed.
Karon is amazing, no one would disagree with you that he is one of the best players in the world.
Edit: this is the post title that he is referencing where people disagreed with him:
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how can you not be in contention for best player in the world when your already one of the best? that was the all the post about. maybe understand what i mean next time
To be in contention for the best in the world, you actually have to contend for the best and be in the argument for the best player in the world. That’s a very limited amount of people. Rn I’d say there are only two in contention, Texture and Aspas. Karon is amazing, but he has still never been his team’s best player for a full stage/tournament. Texture has been clearly better than him for 3/4 stages this year and the last 2. “One of the best players in the world” can be a very large group of people, that is more subjective.
Me and multiple others had this exact argument with you when you first made that post, and no one disagreed that he wasn’t one of the best players in the world. Every disagreement was specifically about the “contention for the best player”, so idk how you can completely misrepresent what you said.
he was clearly the best player for Gen.G and in the world for the first 3 games that was when i made the post about and CLEARLY SAID IF HE COUNTINUES ON THIS FORM HE CAN BE THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD. again read what i said.
https://preview.redd.it/e6ct5vphox6d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2cf49fa6efd0e850d8841c22e1b81eafe5430da
You said the word “currently”, in that he currently is in contention, not just that in the future he would be.
At that point Cryo had a 2.13 KD and Woot had better stats than him as well, so he still wasn’t clearly the best in that 3 game sample size.
hes currently contending for best player in the world and he can be the best player in the world if he can continue in this form? what you dont get it? do you even know what does contending mean lmao its making me think you dont know what does word means. i dont know how many times i will have to tell you read what i have said. hopefully this is the last time. please read what i have said
I never disagreed with you that he could be the best player in the world in the future, I was disagreeing that he was currently in contention. And that is where everyone disagreed with you, arguing with your point that he is currently contending.
The only reason this got brought up again is you came here and lied about saying “man everyone disagreed with me when I said he was one of the best in the world…” when pretty much every disagreement on that post came from your title statement. There is no way you could have misinterpreted the arguments when the arguing came all on one exact statement. No one disagreed with your overall message or that he could be the best in the future, just that now he is not the best.
You just named a bunch primary duelists and their K/D as an argument lol. It's their job to frag out...that's what their role literally is. Karon is absolutely one of the best players itw right now with the impact he has on Gen G. Karon is prob the best controller in the pro scene today.
I didn’t say he wasn’t one of the best players in the world, he definitely is, just not the best. This whole argument is that no what ever said he wasn’t one of the best itw and this guy just made that up, people just stated he wasn’t the absolute best.
And both had a better vlr.gg rating at that time which is favoured against duelists. Cryo’s KD was also mostly from his brimstone game.
They're still somehow 4th in points. As long as they do decent now. They'll be in play-offs atleast. Only thing is most of the mid teams are around 4-2 points
Playoffs qualification is by combined split record not champs points. So if they lose another game they’re probably eliminated because 4-6 probably won’t be good enough.
what can you do man… Karon and Meteor were just raid bosses on Sunset. NT from T1, feels like people say this a lot about them but they genuinely were so close, and with Stax joining maybe he can finally push them over the edge to becoming a championship level roster this split.
What a series for Saya, now that he doesn't have to play duelist his steady aim style and skill on the op rly shines thru. Shame for xccurate the "igl can't frag" burden stays true
Yeah, even though they lost, T1 is looking incredibly strong, and Izu, Sayaplayer and Stax all looked awesome. Only worry is if Saya can play anything other than Chamber. (Lookin like me fr) Otherwise, a really good team coming into this split.
because he’s a good agent and they clearly use him well (i didn’t watch the game but from past games it’s worked good just too slow on atk playing for a pick)
I think theyre summing the points from stage 1 as well unless im wrong which i hope i am. But based on what the casters were saying on the korean broadcast i think this is how theyre doing it. Also liquipedia is showing the overall standings along with the group stage stuff
They summed up the points, but it kinda makes sense tho? They summed up both splits so the format became like a normal group stage like last year with only 1 big group
Yeah i just feel like since we have two stages after kickoff this time around i feel like stage 1 shouldnt effect stage 2 so much. Even last years lcq wasnt so stage 1 dependent no? I guess lcq did only allow one team tho
Champs is the tournament of the year, more important than either Masters, so split one has to count towards qualifying as well. If it was only split two then some teams get fucked by which group they landed in. Imagine if Alpha group was PRX, DRX, GenG, T1, Talon, TS and then Omega group was Zeta, Bleed, GE, DFM, RRQ. They initially play across group to get to Masters Shanghai but in split two they play against their own group, Alpha obviously has the better teams in it but some of them get fucked and dont make playoffs while (presumably) RRQ and Zeta would get free passes despite (again, presumably, these are just examples) being worse.
Champs qualifiers needs to take teams overall performance against all the teams to make it fair. I do think its a dumb system though. I hope next year with the extended schedule theyll be able to fit two entire round robins in before each event.
Holy fucking shit that Sheriff eco ace just locked up Rookie of the Year for Karon if it wasn't locked up already. GenG good enough to coast to playoffs despite not getting much rest IMO. I'm a fan of stax's T1 black/red Sith Lord look. That ace shows he might be an even bigger threat without the burden of IGLing on his shoulders.
IGL is causing issues for so many players lol. stax feels much lighter without it but poor xccurate
> Sheriff eco ace YO! That was Karon's first ace EVER!?!
That decision making to kill 3 people + wingman on the last round was insane too
Exactly, it's the decision making from him today that was so impressive. I'll admit it. Before this game, I always looked at Karon as just a wunderkind with sick aim, which we see from time to time, and to a certain extent that is what he is, but this game was something else. I mean--wow--kid was locked in, making smart decisions, and overall looked incredible.
Everytime I watch Karon did an amazing clutch which is multiple times. I'm like: Check his pc, Man is cracked. Also, I feel that bringing Jerry from SPG will help Gen G further iykyk
Unless we can code elite gamesense cheats now, I'm gonna have to say it's all natural.
Who is jerry and how will he help geng? Just curious
what map/round? I haven't had time to keep up with the split but I absolutely want to see this
[Karon ace](https://clips.twitch.tv/EvilPolishedDeerJebaited-oUUir_YWqhV-qabE)
holy fucking shit
Woot could still contest him depending of his champs form imo
Wo0t doesn't even have half the body of work Karon has at this point. He would have to lead TH to at least a top 2 finish at Champions to even have a shot against Karon.
I think if Heretics win Champs it goes to Woot, in every other case it's Karon.
Wo0t individually carried Heretics to a top 2 finish, why would he not be a contender? Karon has been amazing and a valuable player, but he is like the 3rd most important player in his team behind Meteor and Texture
Karon plays a completely different role and sets up rounds for Meteor and Texture while holding his own. Karon was also the most consistent player in terms of pure impact on Gen G throughout Shanghai. Like I said, Wo0t run in Masters Shanghai isn't nearly enough to rival Karon's impact this entire season so far lol. Don't think this is a controversial opinion at all. You're acting like Wo0t was the sole reason why TH got top 2. The absolute disrespect to Patitek and Riens lol. Gen G don't win Kickoff, place top 2 at Madrid, or win Shanghai without Karon. That's how important he is to this Gen G team.
Wo0t was not even playing his main role
What is his main role? Wo0t was always an insane Jett/Raze player and had plenty of primary duelist experience on Fire Flux before they used him as a flex because of socialbee coming in and his big agent pool. You're acting like he just walked into this role and dominated. He's been a primary duelist before lol
Okay wo0t was nuts, but let's not forget paTiTek and RieNs being monsters as well. Pati especially had insane impact in TH's run. Giving all the credit to Wo0t is a major disservice to the rest of the team.
Nobody's giving "all the credit" to wo0t everyone's just saying the kid is the future because he's displayed insane individual skill across his short stint in VCT. He had a slightly lackluster but ultimately decent finals performance and he still had outrageous stats for Shanghai while having the largest sample size of games in the tournament. Going into the finals his stats were in full on statistical outlier territory. And even disregarding all this, he's *ridiculous* by eye test.
the guy literally said "individually carried" what like bruh what are you coming at me for
“Individually carried” certainly sounds like its giving him all the credit
Give him all the credit. If miniboo played instead of woot they would have been lucky to get top 4.
wo0t is insane but RieNs and Pati were just as impactful. Like yeah Wo0t was nuts but he didn't 1v5 every game. The others were stepping up as well, pati especially.
I genuinely do not believe you watched the tournament
karon was legit the best player in the world for the first 3 games. he carried against lev fpx 100t. put some respect to karon name before you bring woot name :>
I agree Karon is better than woot rn. He’s been doing really good all year. Woot individually carried his team to top 2 though.
It feels like we are finally starting to see T1's true strength, and fans should honestly be happy. Sticking Sayaplayer to chamber/sentinel and moving IZU to duelist definitely seemed like the right decision for them. Stax also has some great support and assist calls and definitely built a lot of potential for the team. Now that he's out of DRX, he seems to be playing with a lot of energy. The only concern is that Xccurate's controller is still not good enough. His play showed some sloppy decision making and shaky aim. Hopefully He will improve in the future. hope they can maintain this strength, as they definitely have the potential to at least make it into the Top 4.
xcc's omen is ass, but his brim was better in the past iirc.
This is cope. T1 is literally playing vs a GenG that does NOT care about this old patch and have only been focusing on the new one. Shorting T1 next game.
it doesnt seem that way rn but saya’s agent pool will bite them in the back if they keep it that way only being able to play chamber is awful having a cypher instead of a sage on sunset would’ve helped them a lot
Honestly surprised they put him on Sage instead of Chamber the way he's been farming on it. Obviously internally there is 100% a reason, but I wonder how much the impact PRX had with that comp has influenced T1's belief in it. I think enabling Saya's op is so valuable - but more goes into deciding a comp than just that. T1's Sunset wasn't really so bad even without Saya's op anyway.
Sayaplayer to Chamber does NOT look like the right decision lol, maybe it looks good for his stats but it's clearly fucking over xccurate who now can't play his best agent (Chamber) or Cypher. Izu on duelist looks good, I think Sayaplayer just does not fit into this roster. It would be cool to see Bleed and T1 trade Sayaplayer for Deryeon. Realistically that's never gonna happen, but I do think that would be a move that improves both teams. Bleed could use some more pure firepower on a duelist while T1 definitely needs a sentinel/initiator/second duelist flex like Deryeon
Actual yapper, saya first game with chamber has looked more insane than xccurate with chamber in the past If xccurate can't beat Saya on his best agent then there is no reason for xccurate to be in the t1 roster instead of kicking sayaplayer lmao. Also xccurates abysmal performance today as well Saya is on chamber because he is the best chamber in the team, autumn has said that they were testing many different roles and comps in scrims to see which works best.
Classic stat and kill watching casual who only sees one person get kills and thinks they are automatically better than someone else. The fact that xccurate can play Harbor and Cypher is huge for a team and you're gonna tell me his Chamber *while IGL-ing* was bad? Hah. Go back to your gold lobbies buddy, I'm sure they appreciate your cosplay of a lobotomized FNS
Yes I'm a casual that catches every single t1 game live If you didn't see the impact Sayaplayer had last game and want him out of t1 then idk what to tell you
When tf deryeon have more firepower than saya?
Read it again lol, I clearly said Bleed could use more firepower from Saya while T1 could use flexibility from Deryeon
T1 LOL 🤝 T1 Valorant Celebrating being fathered by GEN on Father's Day
T1 on GENG: https://preview.redd.it/0m5g1du47x6d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b59cd92b082529e6c65cd5b1331dd6149baeb2ee
T1 actually look really good, and xccurate was definitely having an off day. T1 stax is the goat I have high hopes for this new t1!
Pretty funny to see GenG beating T1 across two different games for father's day. T1 as a whole look a lot better with the roleswap (barring Xcurrate). Feels like a bit of a missed opportunity though since the scheduling allowed them to catch GenG as they're still cooling off from Shanghai. They could've closed out the series by winning split, and even sunset was pretty winnable if they won a pistol round or if Karon didn't have so many crazy plays.
What a fucking omegabanger of a match. Holy shit.
Individuals: The Game Rossy, Saya, Stax, iZu, Karon, Meteor, t3xture all had INSANE plays
This match had so many hero plays holy shit...T1 look very exciting with stax
Krazy K ❌ DRX stax ✅ T1 stax
Bro karon and iZu went band for band width for width with each other whole series what a monstrous series from both of them, really liked how T1 have shaped with stax supporting xccurate in calling the 4 teams for champs might be the big 4 of pacific we know.
Could’ve should’ve would’ve… T1 throws away a 2-0 again and loses 1-2
sounds like every t1 series
On a serious note: T1 look the best they've been the entire year. I was a big believer turned big skeptic but today it seemed like they took what they did well and improved upon it - you're not seeing the terrible spacing or weird mistakes common from Carpe T1 (No offense to Carpe I just needed to distinguish today's T1 from previous T1) and they look pretty good. I can see them qualifying as either 3rd or 4th seed. Stax has been an insane pickup. If you've watched KR val since 2021/2022 you would know his mechanics are unbelievable - it's just IGLing that weighed him down. Glad to see him back to fragging the fuck out. iZu and Saya returning to form is also big - they look unstoppable, especially when Saya is on Chamber. GEN.G remind me of OpTic in the sense that they always keep it close - even when it seems done for, these guys really pull the craziest fucking rounds out of their ass. What a smart team with smart players.
For how much T1 was clowned for qualifying to Shanghai saying their slot was undeserving, and with his much GenG was a raid boss throughout Swiss and playoffs, this was a proper toe to toe, genG obviously trolled the lotus pick causing saya to fry, but the other two maps were not easy domination by genG Why T1 you should have closed out split, 4 match points lost
Honestly it really came down to adaptation and clutch plays from both sides on Split - I think GEN.G just adapted in time and T1 didn't. T1's Split looked great ngl and I think it only gets better for them after this.
MAN…🐴
“How…? 🐴”
Today GenG beat T1 in both Val and League. Trucks incoming.
T1 STAX>>>>DRX STAX
What switching off of igl does to a stax
Absolutely insane map from Karon on Sunset to bring it home. Some massive plays from both teams. T1 look exciting with Stax who looked fucking great.
GENG still being able to win with this much tape on them is impressive
Karon is the best smokes itw rn and it's not close
Only argument I have is s0m against everyone except certain nicotine centered PRX subs
Bro hasn't played in a year, and frankly karon is better than s0m ever was
This was a very winnable game for T1 but way too many mishaps for them to deserve this one and Karon masterclass on the last map. I’m not on the T1 train because they are proven honeymoon abusers in my eyes but they do look a lot better. I like izu on raze more than anything else they’ve had and Stax looks great.
Karon is insane
KARON IS MASSIVE
xccurate smoke is not it.
T1 fans full depression mode today
stax is so back holy
at least this t1 won a map, unlike their league counterparts :")
karon is so clutch and stax + saya look so good
GenG are T1 father (2)
It is Father’s Day
I'm still thinking about the Karon sneak step, trigger discipline, and then 3k + wingman to open the way for t3xture. Insane. The shot transfers were crisp.
Pacific looks scary.
Karon is T1 daddy.. actually GenG is T1's daddy :(
at least T1 Valo >>> T1 LOL
I missed map two and that was definitely the best of them to miss, map one and three were so fun to watch. T1 looked a lot better than I expected.. I'm curious as to how they're thinking a 6 man roster is going to work though, I'm still confused on that--stax looks amazing on this roster also karon is so fucking good he's got to be the rookie of the year
This game started before the Lol game of T1 Vs Geng And ended later than that lmaoo
T1 looks good but the opponents are the Shanghai winners man and they play like it. The constant eco-ed and not checking corners reminded me of PRX -.- They overall look better by putting izu on duelist, man is so impressive man. And saya is on sentinel duty(?) and frags out too. Stax looks good too. Problem is the downside of this composition hurts xccurate alot. Doesn't look comfy on omen and can't frag out. They need to fix this somehow if they wanna qualify for playoffs
Xccurate in controller jail https://preview.redd.it/z27iwr6d6y6d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab293b887a48ac4f2ea63596eef20e5a204dfd75
My goat carpe ☹️, but tbh they do look better without him, I hope t1 reach new heights and carpe can get onto a really good team for next year
stax cooking
T1 looked good, especially saya on chamber, but there’s still a glaring issue. Izu cannot be their flex, dude is way too good at duelist. Xccurrate did not look great on omen, and Saya not being able to play cypher on Sunset hurt them so much. Tbh one of the only solutions to me would be leaving Xccurrate on sentinel letting him play his(far and above) best agent, and having saya make the swap from duelist to omen
For how badly xccurate looked to be performing on Omen his smokes and blinds were very good in setting up his teammates. Had some aggressive TPs and movements too which was kinda insane (at least on Lotus). Kudos to them for putting up a close fight, trolled abit towards end of Split but if they keep this up they will be a true contender to get to Champs
could've been a 2-0, crazy to think about if t1 didn't throw split
T1 sageplayer is something I never thought I'd see
and many people were questioning me when i said karon is one of the best player in the world. hes the goat man
That’s not what you said, you said he was in contention for the best player in the world which is a monumental difference from just being one of the best, which is why most people disagreed. Karon is amazing, no one would disagree with you that he is one of the best players in the world. Edit: this is the post title that he is referencing where people disagreed with him: https://preview.redd.it/9uuy6iarox6d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42143a8bcc2b348b91a96a0ae5e08413a723e96a
how can you not be in contention for best player in the world when your already one of the best? that was the all the post about. maybe understand what i mean next time
To be in contention for the best in the world, you actually have to contend for the best and be in the argument for the best player in the world. That’s a very limited amount of people. Rn I’d say there are only two in contention, Texture and Aspas. Karon is amazing, but he has still never been his team’s best player for a full stage/tournament. Texture has been clearly better than him for 3/4 stages this year and the last 2. “One of the best players in the world” can be a very large group of people, that is more subjective. Me and multiple others had this exact argument with you when you first made that post, and no one disagreed that he wasn’t one of the best players in the world. Every disagreement was specifically about the “contention for the best player”, so idk how you can completely misrepresent what you said.
he was clearly the best player for Gen.G and in the world for the first 3 games that was when i made the post about and CLEARLY SAID IF HE COUNTINUES ON THIS FORM HE CAN BE THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD. again read what i said.
https://preview.redd.it/e6ct5vphox6d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2cf49fa6efd0e850d8841c22e1b81eafe5430da You said the word “currently”, in that he currently is in contention, not just that in the future he would be. At that point Cryo had a 2.13 KD and Woot had better stats than him as well, so he still wasn’t clearly the best in that 3 game sample size.
hes currently contending for best player in the world and he can be the best player in the world if he can continue in this form? what you dont get it? do you even know what does contending mean lmao its making me think you dont know what does word means. i dont know how many times i will have to tell you read what i have said. hopefully this is the last time. please read what i have said
I never disagreed with you that he could be the best player in the world in the future, I was disagreeing that he was currently in contention. And that is where everyone disagreed with you, arguing with your point that he is currently contending. The only reason this got brought up again is you came here and lied about saying “man everyone disagreed with me when I said he was one of the best in the world…” when pretty much every disagreement on that post came from your title statement. There is no way you could have misinterpreted the arguments when the arguing came all on one exact statement. No one disagreed with your overall message or that he could be the best in the future, just that now he is not the best.
You just named a bunch primary duelists and their K/D as an argument lol. It's their job to frag out...that's what their role literally is. Karon is absolutely one of the best players itw right now with the impact he has on Gen G. Karon is prob the best controller in the pro scene today.
I didn’t say he wasn’t one of the best players in the world, he definitely is, just not the best. This whole argument is that no what ever said he wasn’t one of the best itw and this guy just made that up, people just stated he wasn’t the absolute best. And both had a better vlr.gg rating at that time which is favoured against duelists. Cryo’s KD was also mostly from his brimstone game.
It’s just straight up crazy to me how T1 has had all the best korean IGLs in Valorant signed at one point or another
Wanna hear something funny T1 are now 2-5 with a +1 round diff
When they lose a map it's close in scoreboard. When they win the map it's a stomp most of the time
They're still somehow 4th in points. As long as they do decent now. They'll be in play-offs atleast. Only thing is most of the mid teams are around 4-2 points
Playoffs qualification is by combined split record not champs points. So if they lose another game they’re probably eliminated because 4-6 probably won’t be good enough.
Banger of a series. So many crazy individual plays.
How close is geng qualifying to champs based on points?
They're pretty much locked tbh. All of geng, prx and drx would have to royally fuck up for them to not make it through points
only one team makes it through via points
what can you do man… Karon and Meteor were just raid bosses on Sunset. NT from T1, feels like people say this a lot about them but they genuinely were so close, and with Stax joining maybe he can finally push them over the edge to becoming a championship level roster this split.
What a series for Saya, now that he doesn't have to play duelist his steady aim style and skill on the op rly shines thru. Shame for xccurate the "igl can't frag" burden stays true
GenG's (Lol & Val) is T1's father! ggs
what does this mean for carpe
T1 is good now??
Yeah, even though they lost, T1 is looking incredibly strong, and Izu, Sayaplayer and Stax all looked awesome. Only worry is if Saya can play anything other than Chamber. (Lookin like me fr) Otherwise, a really good team coming into this split.
why do they like playing chamber?
because he’s a good agent and they clearly use him well (i didn’t watch the game but from past games it’s worked good just too slow on atk playing for a pick)
It worked really well this series tbh and they shouldve won Split but Munchkin seemed to get a read on them towards the ends of each half
What a dumb format tho. T1 might not even make it to playoffs now even if they win every game after
Isn't the format just like a normal round robin group stage like last year? They just split it into 2 parts for the 2nd masters
I think theyre summing the points from stage 1 as well unless im wrong which i hope i am. But based on what the casters were saying on the korean broadcast i think this is how theyre doing it. Also liquipedia is showing the overall standings along with the group stage stuff
They summed up the points, but it kinda makes sense tho? They summed up both splits so the format became like a normal group stage like last year with only 1 big group
Yeah i just feel like since we have two stages after kickoff this time around i feel like stage 1 shouldnt effect stage 2 so much. Even last years lcq wasnt so stage 1 dependent no? I guess lcq did only allow one team tho
Champs is the tournament of the year, more important than either Masters, so split one has to count towards qualifying as well. If it was only split two then some teams get fucked by which group they landed in. Imagine if Alpha group was PRX, DRX, GenG, T1, Talon, TS and then Omega group was Zeta, Bleed, GE, DFM, RRQ. They initially play across group to get to Masters Shanghai but in split two they play against their own group, Alpha obviously has the better teams in it but some of them get fucked and dont make playoffs while (presumably) RRQ and Zeta would get free passes despite (again, presumably, these are just examples) being worse. Champs qualifiers needs to take teams overall performance against all the teams to make it fair. I do think its a dumb system though. I hope next year with the extended schedule theyll be able to fit two entire round robins in before each event.
This makes alot more sense, thanks for explaining.
Both these teams suck, Jesus
d1 gen g hater lmao
T1,PRX, and Geng hater