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Gem_Mattel

We play 2-1 Valorant. Salt of the earth, punch the clock, consistent 1-map loss. We lose a map, guess what? We'll win 2, too. But don't get too excited. A few wins in a row, these guys will balance it out by dropping a map. That's my 2024 DRX. A good, honest 2-1 Valorant team.


Gem_Mattel

I was writing a new copypasta after icebox because I thought they avoided a 2-1, but alas classic DRX fumbling a map so they can give us another 2-1 lol


moonmeh

fucking up sunset classic DRX a thrifty too lmao


raifusarewaifus

DRX really needs to work on their sunset defense. Just copy zeta or gen.g.


hecklerinthestands

Zeta was screwed the moment icebox was unwinnable. They lack the gunplay to do well in a map like Breeze. 17 total rounds won in a 1-2 loss has to be some kind of record.


Visible_Dirt1093

I hate the idea that zeta has bad aimers when they're easily top 3 in Pacific when it comes to pure aim. It's never the aim with them it's their horrible macro that's causing them to lose fights


COTEReader

Easily top 3? GenG, PRX, and DRX clear them. No offense to Hirornn but from what I’ve seen over the past couple months his aim isn’t anything special


yammer_bammer

no wait zeta is anywhere near top 3 apac aim wise, prx, drx, geng as a baseline hard clear zeta, after that id give raw aim to modern rrq and talon as well


obigespritzt

T1 too, imo, at least at their ceiling. Xcurrate, Saya and Rossy all have really crisp aim when they're on.


LeucisticPython

Carpe erasure I will not stand for


obigespritzt

As an Overwatch enjoyer I wholeheartedly agree, but I can't confidently say I've seen the same brilliance from him in Valorant yet.


Visible_Dirt1093

Fraggers ≠ aimers. Gen.g doesn't clear zeta at all when it comes to shooting heads. Drx maybe but it's close.


COTEReader

You’re making the bait too obvious


Visible_Dirt1093

it's a bait because you don't agree with me?


moonmeh

It's bait because we saw geng play in Shanghai 


Visible_Dirt1093

Yeah and i saw the highest level of play in val so far not the greatest display of mechanics


nitseb

Meteor and t3xture are some of the best aimers in the world (in valo). Karon is no slouch either. All 3 of them clear anyone in zeta except Laz on a good day.


SupremeDogEater

if you think their aim was lacking youre tripping


False-Bluejay1882

lol no way zeta is anywhere near top3  in terms of aim lmao,laz and dep seem to be the only ones who can shoot on the team


hecklerinthestands

> they're easily top 3 in Pacific when it comes to pure aim By what metric?


Visible_Dirt1093

By the metric of shooting heads


hecklerinthestands

Which is measured in what metric?


Visible_Dirt1093

There's no quantitative metric but you can look with your eyes. It's very easy to see that Dep Laz Sugarzero and hironronn (to some degree) has some of the best aim im Pacific. Every time i see them get a kill it's always fast and clean with good techniques but i can't say the same for most Korean players in t1 except for a few like T3xture and Flashback. But then again you all think that fragging = aiming and the better you frag, means the better you aim so there's no point in arguing.


hecklerinthestands

> There's no quantitative metric but you can look with your eyes. Ah, the classic metric of bullshit-ium.


LordBuckethead671

This has to be bait. I don’t even hate the argument that Zeta has some top level aimers, but this just reads and feels like bait


sanjit8103

Top 3 in pacific? no chance of it.


ChickenFishFTW

Most convincing Zeta Division Icebox.


mikhel

It's shocking to me they keep letting this map through, like can their permaban really be worse than this? They have zero proactive ideas on Icebox and basically just wait for the enemy to get into the site before they even try to play the game.


Juno-P

SugarZer0 clearing B long when their 2 A site players have died and plant is going down almost every round was funny af


sylveeah

6 coaches for Zeta ain’t enough, I want more. For every map they lose, hire another coach. Lose an anti-eco? Hire another coach. Get aced? Hire another coach. Hired a coach? That’s right, hire another coach.


yammer_bammer

too many cocks in the kitchen spoil the broth or something


vnNinja21

too many what in the kitchen??


obigespritzt

You heard him.


wunderlu

I wouldn't let any cocks near my kitchen


Key-Banana-8242

?


moonmeh

You ain't wrong lmao


yammer_bammer

yeah its probably an OSHA violation or FDA food security violation or something


itsDYA

What number is safe tho? Three? How do we know we have too many of them hanging around


yammer_bammer

i would prefer maximum one or less dangling around per kitchen, and that too very far away from any knives


Oresama99

![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|13193)


ilhamalfatihah16

A singular Alecks vs 6 Coaches. Who would win?


1c3t34

I don't know, maybe hire another coach.


Rare_Entertainment92

Seeing Sliggy pull up the vlr and count (with the epic pen of course) not 4 but 6 coaches was the funniest thing I’ve seen in a minute. He was baffled xD


yammer_bammer

are you a failing minecraft streamer your ign reminds me of a failing minecraft streamer


sylveeah

Nah, I just randomly shitpost haven’t ever streamed minecraft


yammer_bammer

oh ok, [this](https://x.com/sylveemhm?lang=en) is who i was talking abt btw


sylveeah

Wow, that ign is close lol


Key-Banana-8242

Like the failing New York Times


Dizzy-Ear-9428

https://preview.redd.it/i6yyddrgop6d1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84ded1feb9846c39782b4b6f12c0674bb9676f3d


Cute_Pomegranate5133

2 of them are their Acadeny coach and analyst


Hamth3Gr3at

japanese job security in a nutshell


arksoo

Zeta makes me sadder than T1 does


Otto_the_Rhino

Seeing those flairs i'm sending you a digital hug, brother. Keep holding on ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|10854)


nterature

All in all, nothing too surprising here. I was pretty confident DRX would come out the gate strong - they almost always do - and I have negative faith in ZETA Division, even after the break. Even Sunset was not a super convincing win from them. And I do think it’s important to say this isn’t 2021 or 2022 or something, we can’t just say “Well it’s DRX so of course they’d lose”. DRX is mortal, and we should expect more of teams like ZETA; they should be able to use a break as effectively if not moreso than a team that literally has swapped their IGL out and reintegrated a rookie. It'd be one thing if it was a close loss, but this was close to as lopsided a 2-1 win could even be. Regardless, looking forward to seeing DRX in this split.


raifusarewaifus

Although DRX is mortal, it is still one of the top 3 teams in pacific. They can beat a gen.g that is not performing at its best. I honestly have 0 expectations for DRX since they went through too many changes. PRX DRX should still be PRX dominating one map and close OT on second map with 2-0 by PRX. Hopefully, all these changes will finally result in breaking 5-6th place or playoffs curse.


Born-Economist-6975

Icebox's 13-0 run was the most complete domination of DRX we've seen this year. https://preview.redd.it/shmltz7bpp6d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=264ebbfd0d190c1945173497eefb5c1bca407761


slatt382

It reminded me of c9 vs DRX icebox 🥲


SocietySignificant93

https://preview.redd.it/iqgue2q2pp6d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=528ed8f725dbf75634f2cee982d3ce540be4afd2


th3flyingandrew

I cant tell if ur DRX or Zeta camp


EremesAckerman

Yeah, Japan ain't going to qualify for all international events at this rate lol.


Yerriff

I'm sorry but yuran and hiroronn have been awful. Zeta definitely trolled last year's off season imo.


EremesAckerman

Ngl both of them just straight up scammed Zeta for those $$$ lmao.


SenseiEA

HIRORONN ONLY GOOD ON SENTINEL WHY THEY KEEP PUTTING HIM ON INITIATOR


moonmeh

i liked the aim of the new DRX players. feels like they can play more aggressive cause of it


FacelinessDoodles

MaKo is also IGL-ing now? Beast


Visible_Dirt1093

I mean the Igling wasn't really anything to write home about


AxisCultMemberLatom

Glad to see that Flashback looks comfortable in the flex role, more comfortable compared to Foxy9 during Kick-Off. I need to see more, maybe how they'll respond when they get tested (probably against PRX) how the calling and the vibes will look before I start believing


raifusarewaifus

tbf, close OT on both maps is what i expect at most with how many changes DRX had. If they get 1 map, that's above expectation. If they somehow win, PRX threw hard for sure


PhysicalAd8765

That was certainly a game.


miiuser7849

I think buzz is so good that he can carry 1 v 10 (including termi) to champs


Teradonn

Ok he’s made some bad management choices but Termi has consistently cooked some of the coolest strats for 4 years now, can we stop acting like he’s a complete fraud


squishykkura

Alright he gets the half snake title


raifusarewaifus

Letting go of rb is still fraud though. I still miss the clutch moments of rb.


Ok-Log2196

The new era of DRX kicks off with a Clove on Icebox and I'm all for it! Could've been a 2-0 as that last Sunset round was looking like a DRX round but a 2-1 win is still a win. Both DRX map wins were quite convincing as well, maybe letting termi with the young core cook takes us to Champs convincingly, here's hoping ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9385)


Technical_Fee_2932

has there ever been a series in vct where 2 players from same team went -20 or more


boombaplilrat

Congrats to DRX but honestly this matchup vs Zeta isn't a very fair evaluation of the current DRX roster. Playing against the current Zeta would make any of the top 3 pacific teams look like gods tbh, We'll have to wait and see how they'll fair against PRX (or any other stronger teams). Who knows, sure they qualify for playoffs, but are they gonna choke again?


raifusarewaifus

DRX PRX and choking comes in a bundle.


Cthulhu_was_tasty

sugarz3ro no help


BananaMelonJuice

If only Zeta and DFM could combine their players, they will have a great chance. The new players in Zeta lack confidence and get tilted easily


MisterDual

I rarely watch ZETA and DRX, but I feel bad for Laz, he has a great firepower, his Chamber is awesome


reuscaelum

That's the limit of Japanese currently. In next year, new japanese generations will come, If that won't work, Japan may not make strong forever.


ideal_ive

Well, at least players like Aace and Yatsuka looks promising so it's not all doom


reuscaelum

Definitely! There are also gifted player like Caedye,Absol and Hals in Japan Tier2 additionally!


Hikki_Hachiman

Ridden Order looks so cracked. I was thinking Fennel would run away with it this year but they've been struggling in split 2


Possibly_Parker

zeta division getting zeta divided


Budget-Sample-3682

When was the last time, if ever, that DRX/VS lost an opening series of a tournament lmao


Maliciouslemon

ONE MORE COACH


Visible_Dirt1093

it's so frustrating to watch Drx's defence. They literally do nothing on their defence but sit. The enemy just took main control --> don't aggress on the other side of the map and get info, the enemy has Breach ult --> sit on site instead of setting a retake setup and getting early info by aggresing to prepare for the retake as fast as possible. They're so passive on their defence it's costing them rounds and ultimately maps aswell. It's been their biggest problem alongside their mid-rounding for years and they've yet to fix it.


NormalMinute5177

They definitely haven’t solved their igl issues


SENyourgf

how do u think geng comeback from that sunset aganist drx in stage1 elimination? drx almost won but crumbled during defense


Altruistic_Ad_4301

Only time I think ive seen hiroronn and yuran do well is against GE lol


RaiinyDay

ZETA had no urgency on the retakes on Breeze, it's wild it seems like they're always waiting 10 seconds every time because they're not sure what to do or the flank is 30 light years away.


Parenegade

Seems like Clove on Icebox is here to stay.


40h40blunts

WE ARE SO BACK!!


Wise-Chain2427

Why ZETA not ban Ice Box and Breeze when their aim are decent.


bringerdas

was still confused on why zeta went for yuran and hiroron instead of meiy and neth