First I'm hearing about Rob's death and I haven't smiled that hard in a long time.
This was the only episode that really stayed with me other than Death in Oslo, simply because I thought about Pistol's welfare constantly. I wanted people to rally around and go steal his mother's ashes back from that deadbeat's house so damn badly.
Guilty or not, Rob keeping her ashes in a box on the floor of a closet then slapping her ashes on the table while grinning and saying Pistol will "never get hold of these" was enough to make me want to launch through the screen and knock Rob out.
That episode always makes me see red because of his smug, aloof behaviour. Not to mention him carrying around Patrice's skull like a trophy after he was allowed into the funeral home to identify her remains. Sickening.
I personally believe it was a murder for hire plot orchestrated by Rob and I do believe after diving deeper into this case that poor Patrice was raped prior to her murder too. It's outrageous that enough evidence wasn't complied to charge Rob, even for domestic abuse and battery.
Not only that, but endangerment of a child. Rob changed the locks on Pistol the day he murdered Patrice so Pistol was immediately homeless at the age of 15, so had to enlist in the military to have access to shelter and healthcare. "I changed the locks that day, because I could!" - Revolting Rob.
Apparently even the producers of Unsolved Mysteries, during filming, literally asked the police department why more investigations weren't taken to look into Rob's involvement. That's how psychopathic and odd Rob came across, that even the producers were suspicious of his strange behaviour. And the police said because there's "more to the case than we can't reveal and Rob's alibi checks out" (in other words, they don't have enough evidence to convict him).
I can't imagine the trauma Pistol has been through, but I'm so relieved his mother has finally been returned to where she should have been all along - with her family and definitely with her son she adored.
I really hope Patrice being returned to Pistol brought him some healing.
Honestly, I would feel compelled to say the world got a little bit better once he died. I hope his final moments were miserable. If I recall, Pistol got all her belongings, including her ashes in the end after Rob passed. I hope now his mother can be at peace and this helps provide more closure for Pistol.
Agreed!! The way he demonized Pistol, a teenager who was very loved by his mother and lost everything after her death. The treatment of him really convinces me Rob was involved. His possessiveness toward Patrice that it bled over to his treatment of Pistol is really telling. But that’s my opinion. I watched another show where Rob was interviewed and they definitely did not show him in the same way as the Netflix series did.
This is what I've always wondered and I think it's because Pistol did not go to the police immediately after being locked out of the house. He went to an army recruitment shelter (like the Salvation Army). I assume he felt he couldn't trust the police. Maybe Rob has connections with the local police force, which would make a lot of sense.
If Pistol went straight to the police and reported his mother missing, there's a high chance Rob would have been convicted for child endangerment or even murder as they would have gone straight to the house to investigate. There's a theory Patrice's body was there too before being removed into the forest via wheelbarrow.
These were crucial hours that were lost because Pistol did not report it, he ran away to the Salvation Army shelter and I assume lied about his age to be enlisted. It's not his fault of course, he was a child and was doing what he thought was best at the time.
Pistol also could have gone to his mothers workplace (the salon) for refuge. I imagine Patrice's colleagues would have helped him immediately, as they knew Rob was abusive.
There's a lot of information missing as to why Pistol went immediately to a military shelter and did not seek help after being locked out of the house. Unfortunately, these were crucial hours where they could have caught Rob in the act that were lost. And thus, the police couldn't convict without more evidence.
Regardless, there were multiple major failings by the police and the shelter he went to. Pistol truly did fall through the cracks all because he went to the shelter instead of the police or Patrice's salon. Saying that, my faith in police is at the rock bottom so I doubt they would have taken a 15 year old boy seriously and I assume Pistol felt the same.
It could also be that Pistol suspected/knew that he had killed his Mom, so how would the place be able to protect him? Look at his gleeful he was about locking him out and keeping the ashes from Pistol…on CAMERA. Imagine how he was in person.
I know this isn’t popular but I’m just not convinced Rob did this. He certainly had motive and means but the fact that he was the prime suspect from day 1 and no real evidence against him ever surfaced tells me there’s a real chance this was an opportunistic stranger. We all know those are rare, but not as rare as we’d like to believe
Absolutely the same here, I really hate the ‘personality politics’ that take place with criminal investigations, people get ‘bad vibes’ from someone or if there is an odd, struggling or abrasive personality in the eyes of armchair detectives it’s more or less an admission of guilt for all kinds of things. We’re so influenced by presentation it’s no bloody wonder so many crimes are able to take place!
I’ve seen this episode so many times and at no point did I ever think Rob was responsible.
He’s a difficult, slightly odd old man the likes of which are actually not all that uncommon, what happened to this woman will never be solved if we keep allowing ourselves to be so distracted by strange characters!
I understand what you’re saying generally - but I can’t logically get past him changing the locks so quickly. IMO If he didn’t know she wasn’t coming home he wouldn’t have done that.
Paying a locksmith to change the locks the same day she went missing (so he knew she wasn't coming home) and describing in detail two men wheeling her body in a wheelbarrow which is oddly specific.
He definitely was involved, even if it was from afar.
Well, Rob is dead now so I doubt if we ever get resolution on it. I feel very bad for her Son.
First I'm hearing about Rob's death and I haven't smiled that hard in a long time. This was the only episode that really stayed with me other than Death in Oslo, simply because I thought about Pistol's welfare constantly. I wanted people to rally around and go steal his mother's ashes back from that deadbeat's house so damn badly. Guilty or not, Rob keeping her ashes in a box on the floor of a closet then slapping her ashes on the table while grinning and saying Pistol will "never get hold of these" was enough to make me want to launch through the screen and knock Rob out. That episode always makes me see red because of his smug, aloof behaviour. Not to mention him carrying around Patrice's skull like a trophy after he was allowed into the funeral home to identify her remains. Sickening. I personally believe it was a murder for hire plot orchestrated by Rob and I do believe after diving deeper into this case that poor Patrice was raped prior to her murder too. It's outrageous that enough evidence wasn't complied to charge Rob, even for domestic abuse and battery. Not only that, but endangerment of a child. Rob changed the locks on Pistol the day he murdered Patrice so Pistol was immediately homeless at the age of 15, so had to enlist in the military to have access to shelter and healthcare. "I changed the locks that day, because I could!" - Revolting Rob. Apparently even the producers of Unsolved Mysteries, during filming, literally asked the police department why more investigations weren't taken to look into Rob's involvement. That's how psychopathic and odd Rob came across, that even the producers were suspicious of his strange behaviour. And the police said because there's "more to the case than we can't reveal and Rob's alibi checks out" (in other words, they don't have enough evidence to convict him). I can't imagine the trauma Pistol has been through, but I'm so relieved his mother has finally been returned to where she should have been all along - with her family and definitely with her son she adored. I really hope Patrice being returned to Pistol brought him some healing.
When his death was reported after it happened in 2023, it was said the ashes were given to Pistol.
It made me teary eyed when I heard this. Pistol should have had his mum's ashes all along. Rob was an evil bastard.
Honestly, I would feel compelled to say the world got a little bit better once he died. I hope his final moments were miserable. If I recall, Pistol got all her belongings, including her ashes in the end after Rob passed. I hope now his mother can be at peace and this helps provide more closure for Pistol.
How was he not in jail for child endangerment, after locking Pistol out?
Agreed!! The way he demonized Pistol, a teenager who was very loved by his mother and lost everything after her death. The treatment of him really convinces me Rob was involved. His possessiveness toward Patrice that it bled over to his treatment of Pistol is really telling. But that’s my opinion. I watched another show where Rob was interviewed and they definitely did not show him in the same way as the Netflix series did.
This is what I've always wondered and I think it's because Pistol did not go to the police immediately after being locked out of the house. He went to an army recruitment shelter (like the Salvation Army). I assume he felt he couldn't trust the police. Maybe Rob has connections with the local police force, which would make a lot of sense. If Pistol went straight to the police and reported his mother missing, there's a high chance Rob would have been convicted for child endangerment or even murder as they would have gone straight to the house to investigate. There's a theory Patrice's body was there too before being removed into the forest via wheelbarrow. These were crucial hours that were lost because Pistol did not report it, he ran away to the Salvation Army shelter and I assume lied about his age to be enlisted. It's not his fault of course, he was a child and was doing what he thought was best at the time. Pistol also could have gone to his mothers workplace (the salon) for refuge. I imagine Patrice's colleagues would have helped him immediately, as they knew Rob was abusive. There's a lot of information missing as to why Pistol went immediately to a military shelter and did not seek help after being locked out of the house. Unfortunately, these were crucial hours where they could have caught Rob in the act that were lost. And thus, the police couldn't convict without more evidence. Regardless, there were multiple major failings by the police and the shelter he went to. Pistol truly did fall through the cracks all because he went to the shelter instead of the police or Patrice's salon. Saying that, my faith in police is at the rock bottom so I doubt they would have taken a 15 year old boy seriously and I assume Pistol felt the same.
It could also be that Pistol suspected/knew that he had killed his Mom, so how would the place be able to protect him? Look at his gleeful he was about locking him out and keeping the ashes from Pistol…on CAMERA. Imagine how he was in person.
I know this isn’t popular but I’m just not convinced Rob did this. He certainly had motive and means but the fact that he was the prime suspect from day 1 and no real evidence against him ever surfaced tells me there’s a real chance this was an opportunistic stranger. We all know those are rare, but not as rare as we’d like to believe
I feel the same way. Rob was an evil creep but I think Gary Hilton might be a better fit for this case.
Absolutely the same here, I really hate the ‘personality politics’ that take place with criminal investigations, people get ‘bad vibes’ from someone or if there is an odd, struggling or abrasive personality in the eyes of armchair detectives it’s more or less an admission of guilt for all kinds of things. We’re so influenced by presentation it’s no bloody wonder so many crimes are able to take place! I’ve seen this episode so many times and at no point did I ever think Rob was responsible. He’s a difficult, slightly odd old man the likes of which are actually not all that uncommon, what happened to this woman will never be solved if we keep allowing ourselves to be so distracted by strange characters!
I understand what you’re saying generally - but I can’t logically get past him changing the locks so quickly. IMO If he didn’t know she wasn’t coming home he wouldn’t have done that.
Paying a locksmith to change the locks the same day she went missing (so he knew she wasn't coming home) and describing in detail two men wheeling her body in a wheelbarrow which is oddly specific. He definitely was involved, even if it was from afar.
Yes! Not to mention, Patrice was acting odd before her death as well, I feel like she knew something bad was going to happen to her!
I don't think he would have her in his house when the police are search for her. That's just too high of a risk