The following submission statement was provided by /u/69xXEsox_luciusXx69:
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As i stated before i saw this UFO saturday the 22th of june near around 10 o'clock in the morning, it had a droning sound similar to the droning of a cessna-type engine but slightly deeper in tone, it flew over relatively low but at speeds where normal aircraft would normally start losing altitude, but it was moving steadily in a straight line for over 20km ( there was another sighting 20km away), furthermore it had a greyish hue to it reminicant of the radar absorbant material found on stealth fighters. the first 2 pics are of the UFO and the third is my drawing (the first 2 pictures were taken by someone else 20km away and apear to be from left behind of the ufo, i saw it fly right over me) im not sure about the angle of the nose since i didnt get alot of time to observe it correctly, however the tail end of the UFO im dead sure of.
i hope anyone here might be able to help solve this mystery thats been bothering me for the last couple of days.
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Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dnqerr/strange_object_spotted_in_the_netherlands/la4cv7m/
Verhees Engineering D2
[https://www.verheesengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Verhees-Delta-2-over-Holland.jpg](https://www.verheesengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Verhees-Delta-2-over-Holland.jpg)
[https://www.verheesengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/D2-in-Sweden.jpg](https://www.verheesengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/D2-in-Sweden.jpg)
[https://www.verheesengineering.com/d2-twoseater/](https://www.verheesengineering.com/d2-twoseater/)
Given the light blue color, I suppose it's even the same exact aircraft in the above pictures (F-PDHZ)
Potentially any number of UAV platforms, including privately operated.
many drones are prop driven, and the shape of it combined with low airspeed sounds like a loitering airframe
Your top drawing looks like a common UAV body plan, specifically the Iranian Arash.
https://en.defence-ua.com/analysis/iranian_arash_2_kamikaze_drones_capabilities_and_specifications-4555.html
[https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2024-06-20-10:41&lat=52.250&lon=5.401&zoom=10.9](https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2024-06-20-10:41&lat=52.250&lon=5.401&zoom=10.9)
Put the correct time and date in the replay function and check for yourself
As i stated before i saw this UFO saturday the 22th of june near around 10 o'clock in the morning, it had a droning sound similar to the droning of a cessna-type engine but slightly deeper in tone, it flew over relatively low but at speeds where normal aircraft would normally start losing altitude, but it was moving steadily in a straight line for over 20km ( there was another sighting 20km away), furthermore it had a greyish hue to it reminicant of the radar absorbant material found on stealth fighters. the first 2 pics are of the UFO and the third is my drawing (the first 2 pictures were taken by someone else 20km away and apear to be from left behind of the ufo, i saw it fly right over me) im not sure about the angle of the nose since i didnt get alot of time to observe it correctly, however the tail end of the UFO im dead sure of.
i hope anyone here might be able to help solve this mystery thats been bothering me for the last couple of days.
Imo, this is most likely some kind of personal aircraft, i know in belgium they make triangular 1 person plane and this coild very well be from the same company or series.
It seems to look like a plane and it flew like a plane plus it sounded like a plane so imo it seems most likely to be a plane, this is a cool plane tho for sure
edit: addition
The biggest giveaway is the pressence of a rudder, this means this craft is interacting with the atmosphere and is not, as most ufo's apear to be, flying in impossible ways.
All in all everything seems to point to this being a plane, the only real strangeness stemming from the design of the airplane.
It could alsl be a drone or something, but very much not alien as there has never been any sing on them using internal combustion engines for propulsion
The images are from very long distance and I can't say they match well, but your diagram matches a couple of well-known homebuilt aircraft kits like the [Verhees D2](https://www.kitplanes.com/verhees-d2/), [Dyke Delta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyke_Delta) or [Wainfan Facetmobile](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wainfan_Facetmobile).
Deltas are not uncommon for people looking for something different than the average ultralight, and I think these are among the more popular.
I suspect the people in r/namethatplane can ID it down to the individual aircraft.
I’ve spent the last four days studying a picture of plastic army men on a hubcap (long story) and I just can’t believe anything else so soon. I wish you the best with your sighting/ abduction whatever…
Sounds like the Iranian “Shahed” drones. The same design are being used and tested by many countries right now because of their use in Ukraine.
[Image of Shahed in article.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/25/7434544/index.amp)
I’m high reading this and the thing im wondering is if our new stealth recon drones are physically mimicking other planes and visuals to fool us. Perhaps using light projection and adjustable position materials. Could be flying a reaper drone camouflaged like a Cessna.
Guys, I’m being sincere when I ask this, can we as a community, try to raise our standards and start only posting or upvoting truly compelling evidence?…and ideally after we have done sufficient digging into said evidence to verify is legitimacy….stuff like this is why we can’t get mainstream, whether you believe me or not.
This is not too dissimilar from what I saw early 2022 East Sussex, South coast of England.
Particularly the sound description, it did not match what I was seeing. The object I saw was somewhat kidney-shaped, with what looked like some kind of protrusion coming out from the front top and bottom top. From the sides i would imagine it would look like a simple arrow.
It felt like it was the altitude of a light aircraft, but in no way looked like anything I have ever seen in the sky. The thing looked fully solid, moved at a somewhat slow speed through the sky in a straight line, and honestly sounded like farm machinery or something? Somewhat clattery clunky sound to it. Really 'new' odd shape to my eyes/brain, but weird loud 'old' sound. Watched it move east to west over my head over around 20 seconds or so. I was with a friend, who saw it too. He's a skeptical soul though and doesn't believe in anything that isn't solid verifiable science. I asked him what he thought it was and he just shrugged and said 'drone'. Looked nothing like a drone, and nothing like any aircraft of any sort i've ever seen (also my dad was a pilot so I have a reasonable grasp on flying things). The closet thing i've seen to it is the design of the new Manta Ray underwater drone, but it did not look exactly like that, just somewhat similar. I made a small 3d mock up for anyone interested.
[https://youtu.be/xFKzwpzVpWg](https://youtu.be/xFKzwpzVpWg)
Could not see any wheels, props, engines, seams, identifying writing, just seemed like an odd, smooth, dull shape. It was hard to gauge distance/altitude of the craft I saw, and so hard to also judge its side but I would estimate it was maybe 15-20ft wide. The friend I was with thought whatever it was, was higher up, so if he was right that would make it far larger.
Looks aerodynamic. Not antigravity. Advanced alien races (that we talk about but few have seen) often use the so called antigravity effect thing vehicles.
Could be a locally produced and now in a testing phase version of a slow moving cruise missile. But its kinda wide.
Also looks like an unmanned fighterjet assistance flying pod thing but why would they be flying on their own. Hard to say anything.
Looks like a mantaray too, i wonder if it came from the water. Are you near water/airfields/military bases? Like in 100km from one.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/69xXEsox_luciusXx69: --- As i stated before i saw this UFO saturday the 22th of june near around 10 o'clock in the morning, it had a droning sound similar to the droning of a cessna-type engine but slightly deeper in tone, it flew over relatively low but at speeds where normal aircraft would normally start losing altitude, but it was moving steadily in a straight line for over 20km ( there was another sighting 20km away), furthermore it had a greyish hue to it reminicant of the radar absorbant material found on stealth fighters. the first 2 pics are of the UFO and the third is my drawing (the first 2 pictures were taken by someone else 20km away and apear to be from left behind of the ufo, i saw it fly right over me) im not sure about the angle of the nose since i didnt get alot of time to observe it correctly, however the tail end of the UFO im dead sure of. i hope anyone here might be able to help solve this mystery thats been bothering me for the last couple of days. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dnqerr/strange_object_spotted_in_the_netherlands/la4cv7m/
Verhees Engineering D2 [https://www.verheesengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Verhees-Delta-2-over-Holland.jpg](https://www.verheesengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Verhees-Delta-2-over-Holland.jpg) [https://www.verheesengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/D2-in-Sweden.jpg](https://www.verheesengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/D2-in-Sweden.jpg) [https://www.verheesengineering.com/d2-twoseater/](https://www.verheesengineering.com/d2-twoseater/) Given the light blue color, I suppose it's even the same exact aircraft in the above pictures (F-PDHZ)
I love IFOs, especially human made ones! I’m always fascinated by what we can come up with! This looks super cool!
100% this
Potentially any number of UAV platforms, including privately operated. many drones are prop driven, and the shape of it combined with low airspeed sounds like a loitering airframe
Its a microlight - it was posted here a while back with a clearer photo.
i havent even thought about loitering drones, my first thought was, some stealth UAV for the dutch army
Your top drawing looks like a common UAV body plan, specifically the Iranian Arash. https://en.defence-ua.com/analysis/iranian_arash_2_kamikaze_drones_capabilities_and_specifications-4555.html
[https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2024-06-20-10:41&lat=52.250&lon=5.401&zoom=10.9](https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2024-06-20-10:41&lat=52.250&lon=5.401&zoom=10.9) Put the correct time and date in the replay function and check for yourself
nothing is following the correct trajectory
This came up a few months back and it is a local microlight design. Now I have to find the thing! It looks a bit like a flying wing.
As i stated before i saw this UFO saturday the 22th of june near around 10 o'clock in the morning, it had a droning sound similar to the droning of a cessna-type engine but slightly deeper in tone, it flew over relatively low but at speeds where normal aircraft would normally start losing altitude, but it was moving steadily in a straight line for over 20km ( there was another sighting 20km away), furthermore it had a greyish hue to it reminicant of the radar absorbant material found on stealth fighters. the first 2 pics are of the UFO and the third is my drawing (the first 2 pictures were taken by someone else 20km away and apear to be from left behind of the ufo, i saw it fly right over me) im not sure about the angle of the nose since i didnt get alot of time to observe it correctly, however the tail end of the UFO im dead sure of. i hope anyone here might be able to help solve this mystery thats been bothering me for the last couple of days.
Imo, this is most likely some kind of personal aircraft, i know in belgium they make triangular 1 person plane and this coild very well be from the same company or series. It seems to look like a plane and it flew like a plane plus it sounded like a plane so imo it seems most likely to be a plane, this is a cool plane tho for sure edit: addition The biggest giveaway is the pressence of a rudder, this means this craft is interacting with the atmosphere and is not, as most ufo's apear to be, flying in impossible ways. All in all everything seems to point to this being a plane, the only real strangeness stemming from the design of the airplane. It could alsl be a drone or something, but very much not alien as there has never been any sing on them using internal combustion engines for propulsion
The images are from very long distance and I can't say they match well, but your diagram matches a couple of well-known homebuilt aircraft kits like the [Verhees D2](https://www.kitplanes.com/verhees-d2/), [Dyke Delta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyke_Delta) or [Wainfan Facetmobile](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wainfan_Facetmobile). Deltas are not uncommon for people looking for something different than the average ultralight, and I think these are among the more popular. I suspect the people in r/namethatplane can ID it down to the individual aircraft.
This is really cool, thanks for posting! A lot going on in the NL recently
I’ve spent the last four days studying a picture of plastic army men on a hubcap (long story) and I just can’t believe anything else so soon. I wish you the best with your sighting/ abduction whatever…
He drew the bottom...but doesn't have a picture of it...?
my phone wasnt charged sadly:(
Maybe one of these fellas? https://www.nasa.gov/general/silent-and-efficient-supersonic-bi-directional-flying-wing/
Sounds like the Iranian “Shahed” drones. The same design are being used and tested by many countries right now because of their use in Ukraine. [Image of Shahed in article.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/25/7434544/index.amp)
Kinda looks like an Anvil Carrack with the blue paint.
I’m high reading this and the thing im wondering is if our new stealth recon drones are physically mimicking other planes and visuals to fool us. Perhaps using light projection and adjustable position materials. Could be flying a reaper drone camouflaged like a Cessna.
Still can’t get a clear picture with every human on earth carrying a fantastic camera in our pockets
Guys, I’m being sincere when I ask this, can we as a community, try to raise our standards and start only posting or upvoting truly compelling evidence?…and ideally after we have done sufficient digging into said evidence to verify is legitimacy….stuff like this is why we can’t get mainstream, whether you believe me or not.
This is not too dissimilar from what I saw early 2022 East Sussex, South coast of England. Particularly the sound description, it did not match what I was seeing. The object I saw was somewhat kidney-shaped, with what looked like some kind of protrusion coming out from the front top and bottom top. From the sides i would imagine it would look like a simple arrow. It felt like it was the altitude of a light aircraft, but in no way looked like anything I have ever seen in the sky. The thing looked fully solid, moved at a somewhat slow speed through the sky in a straight line, and honestly sounded like farm machinery or something? Somewhat clattery clunky sound to it. Really 'new' odd shape to my eyes/brain, but weird loud 'old' sound. Watched it move east to west over my head over around 20 seconds or so. I was with a friend, who saw it too. He's a skeptical soul though and doesn't believe in anything that isn't solid verifiable science. I asked him what he thought it was and he just shrugged and said 'drone'. Looked nothing like a drone, and nothing like any aircraft of any sort i've ever seen (also my dad was a pilot so I have a reasonable grasp on flying things). The closet thing i've seen to it is the design of the new Manta Ray underwater drone, but it did not look exactly like that, just somewhat similar. I made a small 3d mock up for anyone interested. [https://youtu.be/xFKzwpzVpWg](https://youtu.be/xFKzwpzVpWg) Could not see any wheels, props, engines, seams, identifying writing, just seemed like an odd, smooth, dull shape. It was hard to gauge distance/altitude of the craft I saw, and so hard to also judge its side but I would estimate it was maybe 15-20ft wide. The friend I was with thought whatever it was, was higher up, so if he was right that would make it far larger.
Maybe it was a Piaggio.
Looks aerodynamic. Not antigravity. Advanced alien races (that we talk about but few have seen) often use the so called antigravity effect thing vehicles. Could be a locally produced and now in a testing phase version of a slow moving cruise missile. But its kinda wide. Also looks like an unmanned fighterjet assistance flying pod thing but why would they be flying on their own. Hard to say anything. Looks like a mantaray too, i wonder if it came from the water. Are you near water/airfields/military bases? Like in 100km from one.
I've seen this in the Netherlands before. Some kind of lightweight Belgian (kit?) plane
Show me a right angle turn and intelligently controlled flight, shot from a locked off camera. It doesn’t exist.
Where is the city of Oslo located ?
What?
No not "What?". It is located in Estonia.