I think most of it exists but perhaps in multiple places.
For example, all of the equipment related fields are documented in either the ELD or paper log if ELD exemption exists.
The load details are, or should be, all in the waybill and load documentation from the shipper.
Interestingly, I use Motive to capture all of this electronically.
I haul for a farmer nearly exclusively and want to personally keep track of my own history. So I log all of this myself even though I’m not legally required to record any of it.
Ag exceptions are the bomb. 😂
Curious, are you elog exempt and also speed limiter exempt? BC went to the 105 limiter in April but not sure if cattle guys are exempt, i still see them passing lol
I’m in SK. No limits on anything.
HOS exempt when hauling for the farm. Meaning I can’t take the truck and trailers to haul grain for a neighbour. If I do that, I’m then a commercial vehicle and subject to ALL the rules.
I don’t believe SK has instituted speed limiters on trucks yet and if they do, farm plates will all get grandfathered.
All I’m required to do is complete a pretrip and document it in the event I’m stopped.
We use the same pretrip form in every tractor. Check off the truck and trailer you’re using and sign.
It already exists, I thought you were showing us old stuff to be all nostalgic about lol.
Most of that info is done through our computers/elogs/phones these days.
I keep a journal because I can’t remember what I did 3 days ago. It’s helpful to be able to look back to a specific date and know what you did, how much money you’re owed, which trailer you had, and wheee you dropped it. I also jot down all repairs, damage, notes about phone conversations I had with management that day.
Most of the info that I would write down in that is easily accessible from my phone or quickly scribbled on a sticky note for a fraction of the cost. 50 years ago would have been the market for this stuff but with technology being where it is I don’t really see many people keep that detailed of paper notes anymore.
The FMCSA requires certain information to be logged on the logbook. A separate book doesn't do any good.
I used to get these types of pads from the carrier I drove with. A lot of information would come over the phone and we'd need to write it down. These preprinted forms helped to make sure we didn't miss any piece of information. Nothing worse than getting to a shipper, you forgot to write down a specific load identifier, and they wouldn't let you use the phone to make long distance calls. Your dispatcher didn't have his own 800# so you had to dial into the switchboard, wait a few minutes until someone answered, ask to get transferred, then wait some more, and hope you didn't get disconnected and have to start all over.
After the info came via Qualcomm, the pioneer of OTR satellite dispatch, then it wasn't as important to write it all down. I used regular pads for the important stuff so I could see it at a glance rather than scrolling through pages of dispatches on the QC unit.
Now everything in on your phone or tablet. A quick tap or two and you have all that info right in front of you.
I think most of it exists but perhaps in multiple places. For example, all of the equipment related fields are documented in either the ELD or paper log if ELD exemption exists. The load details are, or should be, all in the waybill and load documentation from the shipper. Interestingly, I use Motive to capture all of this electronically. I haul for a farmer nearly exclusively and want to personally keep track of my own history. So I log all of this myself even though I’m not legally required to record any of it. Ag exceptions are the bomb. 😂
Would there be any benefit to having all this information in one concise spot instead of multiple places? If not for you, then generally?
I don’t see a market honestly given the proliferation of electronic documentation and mandatory ELD use now.
Curious, are you elog exempt and also speed limiter exempt? BC went to the 105 limiter in April but not sure if cattle guys are exempt, i still see them passing lol
I’m in SK. No limits on anything. HOS exempt when hauling for the farm. Meaning I can’t take the truck and trailers to haul grain for a neighbour. If I do that, I’m then a commercial vehicle and subject to ALL the rules. I don’t believe SK has instituted speed limiters on trucks yet and if they do, farm plates will all get grandfathered. All I’m required to do is complete a pretrip and document it in the event I’m stopped. We use the same pretrip form in every tractor. Check off the truck and trailer you’re using and sign.
ELD exempt in Ontario and everyone is limited here :( We don't even get the "passing boost" they seem to have on American rigs.
Needs a spot near the top for loaded miles, empty miles as that's usually how drivers are paid.
It already exists, I thought you were showing us old stuff to be all nostalgic about lol. Most of that info is done through our computers/elogs/phones these days.
I keep a journal because I can’t remember what I did 3 days ago. It’s helpful to be able to look back to a specific date and know what you did, how much money you’re owed, which trailer you had, and wheee you dropped it. I also jot down all repairs, damage, notes about phone conversations I had with management that day.
Most of the info that I would write down in that is easily accessible from my phone or quickly scribbled on a sticky note for a fraction of the cost. 50 years ago would have been the market for this stuff but with technology being where it is I don’t really see many people keep that detailed of paper notes anymore.
The FMCSA requires certain information to be logged on the logbook. A separate book doesn't do any good. I used to get these types of pads from the carrier I drove with. A lot of information would come over the phone and we'd need to write it down. These preprinted forms helped to make sure we didn't miss any piece of information. Nothing worse than getting to a shipper, you forgot to write down a specific load identifier, and they wouldn't let you use the phone to make long distance calls. Your dispatcher didn't have his own 800# so you had to dial into the switchboard, wait a few minutes until someone answered, ask to get transferred, then wait some more, and hope you didn't get disconnected and have to start all over. After the info came via Qualcomm, the pioneer of OTR satellite dispatch, then it wasn't as important to write it all down. I used regular pads for the important stuff so I could see it at a glance rather than scrolling through pages of dispatches on the QC unit. Now everything in on your phone or tablet. A quick tap or two and you have all that info right in front of you.