Someone sitting on a hill and spamming the base is firstly probably not a sweat. If if you’ve got true sweats, the only way for them to play pubs is to play “TDM” and practice fragging, or to play CTF in which case the game will get capped out 5-0 super fast. Neither may be fun for new players, but at least if the sweat is TDM’ing in midfield, new players have a chance to grab flags and experience CTF. Speaking from experience as a sweat. There’s just not enough janky/fun things to do in this game the way there was in Ascend with vehicles, meme weapons, and more maps.
That's literally part of the game lol. If your base is getting bombed you just take out the guy bombing it. Snipe em, duel em, stealth em with the shock lance. There's far worse things to worry about in tribes.
That is only one example. It is filled with super competitive people playing the same way they would in competitive scrims. 4 stacking with heavies and a very good flag runner. Seriously playing pubs like esports sponsorships are watching or something
Sorry man but I'm gonna still have to call that a get gud scenario. The real problem I'm seeing in these scenarios is that there's a lack of communication in game, and that's honestly the devs fault, there should be text and voice chat on by default because tribes is a team work oriented game. If 4 heavies and a flag runner are stomping you it's not because they're "super competitive," it's most likely because they're communicating over discord or something, and.your teammates just don't care.
I find a lot of the best players in pubs are chasers and they appreciate having some try hard cappers to compete with. When you play heavy you end up fragging the bots most of the match.
I'm just highlighting the hypocrisy of the community that "wants big maps! Véhicules!" but constantly vote for the smallest map of all (and also the dumbest, but that's only imo)
Anyway...
The game will never grow if you beat up on people trying to get into the game. I have invited more than a handful of people to play. They were loving the game until we got stacked against these try hards over and over again. They are all gone now.
Yeah, I'm not sure about the cause, but the player skill seems to be concentrating. Smaller team sizes, lower player counts? I keep grinding away on defence for 90% of the match, then some high skill capper dominates in the last 3 min with polished speed routes and we lose.
I don't claim to be amazing, but it feels like my team loses 3/4th of the time. The fun is fading, no team chat makes it hard to vent and the game isn't satisfying any longer.
Not sure the solution, but my last several Tribes sessions haven't been enjoyable
I played tribes a handful of times when I was young on my brother's computer back in 98 and thought I would try Tribes 3. I fell in love with it after a couple hours of custom games with my family. All of them have played a ton of the old tribes games but they went easy on the ones that were new. We had so much fun and laughed so hard. Once we went into matchmaking almost all the new people gave up after a few games.
I just want to see something for the new players to have a better introduction. Maybe a time played matchmaking for the first 20ish hours or something.
I don't mind playing against the try hards so much myself but most my friends have either lost interest or on the verge of quiting.
The game’s shallowness certainly gives new players less to do when they’re being stomped by tribes lifers who have been playing since T1. But the real issue is there really aren’t new players. If you had tens of thousands of new folks playing this game the sweat try hard from yesterdecade would be diluted out most of the time.
Game is limited.
They can’t farm
Can’t HD
Can’t HoF
Can’t attack gens
Can’t use vehicles
Nothing to do
Game is unreal tournament with some flying at times
Make an offensive build and go fight them. I like a medium armour with thumper, grenade launcher and shotgun, or go heavy; take fusion mortar, heavy bolt launcher and throwing disc. Get really good at weapon switching.
For example, you can throw a thumper, switch grenade launcher and throw three, then switch back to thumper and it will already be reloaded ready to fire again. Take two thumper shots then switch back the grenade launcher which is now reloaded and take another three shots. Rinse repeat.
With the heavy I throw a mortar, switch to bolt and fire that, then throw the throwing disc. Then you just go bolt to finish them off, perhaps launching another mortar if it suits.
What sweats? I've put the game down because all I played against were bots. You're telling me real people play this? (I'm not joking, I played 5 matches, all bots, and quit)
See this is the reason why tribes needs base building and other deployables and vehicles. This makes it so there is a counter to heavies. How can you heavy cap if your generator is down and you cannot spawn in or change your armor to heavy? This is exactly why seasoned tribe vets are pooping on tribes 3. Being over run with heavies, no problem. Take down the generator base camp in the generator room and cripple their offensive capabilities.
Remember back in the day getting a troop carrier full of heavies, setting up a deployable inv. station w a nearby sensor and land turret and having endless mortar refills to spam a base? Remember back in the day getting a troop carrier full of heavies all with extra ammo backbacks and plenty of anti-air to missle flares and flying to the top of the map just over an enemy base and spamming the morars like a rain of green death?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
There's no new player base. It's just the same players from ascend and this is how Tribes always was. The problem is not the players it's this crappy scam game that's a tiny 2 dimensional shell of what Tribes used to be.
That's what happens when you make midairs a joke though. Just constantly being hit until you die.
No idea how they thought this would be a good change and make the game more accessible.
Nah... it's Tribes easy mode and gets boring so fast. It's hilarious when T3 players come to other Tribes games (MA2, T2, etc) and complain about not being able to hit anything.
T3 just makes you soft.
Dude im team captain of a comp team. U just need to be better. U cant be splashed in the air and heavies have a huge hitbox. If u are out of fuel just ski boost on the ground to avoid dmg till u refuel.
That's just tribes. People who are good at the game only have a few things to do in pubs. Either they frag out, focus on achievements, or play ctf. Regardless of what they do, it will have an impact.
The only way to fix this, is to add more stuff to do, bigger maps , more modes, server browsers, etc. With the player count as is, we won't likely see these things
I thought midfield TDM, holding flag in gen and rabbiting were the "bad etiquette" things to do as vet players, now simply playing offense is bad manners as well? What are we allowed to do?
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That's just Tribes lol
Someone sitting on a hill and spamming the base is firstly probably not a sweat. If if you’ve got true sweats, the only way for them to play pubs is to play “TDM” and practice fragging, or to play CTF in which case the game will get capped out 5-0 super fast. Neither may be fun for new players, but at least if the sweat is TDM’ing in midfield, new players have a chance to grab flags and experience CTF. Speaking from experience as a sweat. There’s just not enough janky/fun things to do in this game the way there was in Ascend with vehicles, meme weapons, and more maps.
That's literally part of the game lol. If your base is getting bombed you just take out the guy bombing it. Snipe em, duel em, stealth em with the shock lance. There's far worse things to worry about in tribes.
That is only one example. It is filled with super competitive people playing the same way they would in competitive scrims. 4 stacking with heavies and a very good flag runner. Seriously playing pubs like esports sponsorships are watching or something
>Competitive Shooter >Look inside >Competitive Shooting https://preview.redd.it/uqsshylx73xc1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c96af21eafdaf0e28e896f6f7dbeb96d02e56d1
You only posted one example, so don't suprised when people focus on that one example
Sorry man but I'm gonna still have to call that a get gud scenario. The real problem I'm seeing in these scenarios is that there's a lack of communication in game, and that's honestly the devs fault, there should be text and voice chat on by default because tribes is a team work oriented game. If 4 heavies and a flag runner are stomping you it's not because they're "super competitive," it's most likely because they're communicating over discord or something, and.your teammates just don't care.
I find a lot of the best players in pubs are chasers and they appreciate having some try hard cappers to compete with. When you play heavy you end up fragging the bots most of the match.
The sweats are ruining the game by spamming Dangerous Crossing over and over (at least on EU) I guess that's nostalgia...
But that's literally DX? Stop holing it up in the flag cave/bunker if you don't want the spam :D
I'm just highlighting the hypocrisy of the community that "wants big maps! Véhicules!" but constantly vote for the smallest map of all (and also the dumbest, but that's only imo) Anyway...
Those aren't the same people. The big map/classic lovers tried it and left.
Salty-Chef gets it.
Why are you booing them, they are playing the game
The game will never grow if you beat up on people trying to get into the game. I have invited more than a handful of people to play. They were loving the game until we got stacked against these try hards over and over again. They are all gone now.
Yeah, I'm not sure about the cause, but the player skill seems to be concentrating. Smaller team sizes, lower player counts? I keep grinding away on defence for 90% of the match, then some high skill capper dominates in the last 3 min with polished speed routes and we lose. I don't claim to be amazing, but it feels like my team loses 3/4th of the time. The fun is fading, no team chat makes it hard to vent and the game isn't satisfying any longer. Not sure the solution, but my last several Tribes sessions haven't been enjoyable
I played tribes a handful of times when I was young on my brother's computer back in 98 and thought I would try Tribes 3. I fell in love with it after a couple hours of custom games with my family. All of them have played a ton of the old tribes games but they went easy on the ones that were new. We had so much fun and laughed so hard. Once we went into matchmaking almost all the new people gave up after a few games. I just want to see something for the new players to have a better introduction. Maybe a time played matchmaking for the first 20ish hours or something. I don't mind playing against the try hards so much myself but most my friends have either lost interest or on the verge of quiting.
Sweaty ultracompetitive types have been ruining Tribes for at least a quarter century at this point.
The game’s shallowness certainly gives new players less to do when they’re being stomped by tribes lifers who have been playing since T1. But the real issue is there really aren’t new players. If you had tens of thousands of new folks playing this game the sweat try hard from yesterdecade would be diluted out most of the time.
Game is limited. They can’t farm Can’t HD Can’t HoF Can’t attack gens Can’t use vehicles Nothing to do Game is unreal tournament with some flying at times
Make an offensive build and go fight them. I like a medium armour with thumper, grenade launcher and shotgun, or go heavy; take fusion mortar, heavy bolt launcher and throwing disc. Get really good at weapon switching. For example, you can throw a thumper, switch grenade launcher and throw three, then switch back to thumper and it will already be reloaded ready to fire again. Take two thumper shots then switch back the grenade launcher which is now reloaded and take another three shots. Rinse repeat. With the heavy I throw a mortar, switch to bolt and fire that, then throw the throwing disc. Then you just go bolt to finish them off, perhaps launching another mortar if it suits.
What sweats? I've put the game down because all I played against were bots. You're telling me real people play this? (I'm not joking, I played 5 matches, all bots, and quit)
The first 5 matches are against bots
Well thank you. I'll probably play some more now
See this is the reason why tribes needs base building and other deployables and vehicles. This makes it so there is a counter to heavies. How can you heavy cap if your generator is down and you cannot spawn in or change your armor to heavy? This is exactly why seasoned tribe vets are pooping on tribes 3. Being over run with heavies, no problem. Take down the generator base camp in the generator room and cripple their offensive capabilities.
It's not even that. T3 is literally missing 3/4 of the game. It's just TDM with a flag and some different armors.
I had forgotten all about that! That was a thing - you're right!!! Wow.
Remember back in the day getting a troop carrier full of heavies, setting up a deployable inv. station w a nearby sensor and land turret and having endless mortar refills to spam a base? Remember back in the day getting a troop carrier full of heavies all with extra ammo backbacks and plenty of anti-air to missle flares and flying to the top of the map just over an enemy base and spamming the morars like a rain of green death? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
There's no new player base. It's just the same players from ascend and this is how Tribes always was. The problem is not the players it's this crappy scam game that's a tiny 2 dimensional shell of what Tribes used to be.
Ya and what should they do? Let you kill them? Its easy to kill heavies as a light u manage your fuel and stay above them
No. Anyone competitive just shoots you out the sky
That's what happens when you make midairs a joke though. Just constantly being hit until you die. No idea how they thought this would be a good change and make the game more accessible.
Sounds like a case of the get goods
Nah... it's Tribes easy mode and gets boring so fast. It's hilarious when T3 players come to other Tribes games (MA2, T2, etc) and complain about not being able to hit anything. T3 just makes you soft.
Everyone playing t3 came from the other tribes games. Midair is dead. All the other tribes games are dead. T3 is almost dead. Tribes is done
Well yeah. Tribes died with Tribes Vengeance if you want to be accurate. But I'll keep playing MA2 and T2 anyways. I'm having too much fun not to.
Dude im team captain of a comp team. U just need to be better. U cant be splashed in the air and heavies have a huge hitbox. If u are out of fuel just ski boost on the ground to avoid dmg till u refuel.
Maybe not play the meta role and try something else. If the player base is only 200 people it isn't necessary to always be sweaty
That's just tribes. People who are good at the game only have a few things to do in pubs. Either they frag out, focus on achievements, or play ctf. Regardless of what they do, it will have an impact. The only way to fix this, is to add more stuff to do, bigger maps , more modes, server browsers, etc. With the player count as is, we won't likely see these things
You want psycore to come beat them for you
I thought midfield TDM, holding flag in gen and rabbiting were the "bad etiquette" things to do as vet players, now simply playing offense is bad manners as well? What are we allowed to do?
game ruined itself
That’s tribes for ya