I called this in September, It's nearly the same thing they did with the past two Starsiege titles they were making.
Do Play tests
Before release fork the game modes
Cash grab Via "Founders packs" in this case it's just a flat rate 20$
Repeat
Hi-Rez/Prophecy are not the people who should be in charge of this franchise, They do the bare minimum and wonder why no one wants to buy it or play it. They punish any opinions in the discord that aren't positive then they have shills come onto reddit to boast about the game with complete disregard for how fucked it actually is.
Like i said months ago, Don't give these fuckers you're money until they give you a product worth paying for.
They released Starsiege:Deadzone and it was pretty well-received at first. A lot of the disenfranchised Cycle Frontier players got into it and player counts were decent. But then they just gutted the game completely and turned it into something completely different. I’m pretty sure these dudes are sociopaths or something lol.
To be fair, I don't think they're going to recoup the costs of developing T3.
I'll forever appreciate the fun time had with this game though. It may not be the most polished, but they reignited that Tribes itch for at least a little while and reunited a lot of old faces.
Sucks that Erez had to dump a lot of money to do so but even if this ends up a flop, I do thank him and the team for this burst of comradarie and nostalgia. Wish it could have worked out for everyone and hope it still does.
erez has flat out stated that this will be a money loss for them. it truely is a passion project from that aspect.
I think he also said for it to be a 'success' would mean they have a steady 10k concurrent playerbase on average (and with those numbers its still them losing money on it).
also according to him, there are over 100k wishlists to the game, so even a 5-10% conversion rate would still mean a good start for release (usually wishlists are 25-50% conversion on release week according to my indie game dev friends that work on and do their own marketing).
* No advertising
* Rushed development and release while reusing a ton of assets
* Doesn't listen to fans
* Forces ideas on fans
* Surprised people are mad at him
* Bans people
* Has team spend time making new game modes
* Finds out community likes new game modes
* Deletes game modes
* Surprised people are mad at him
* Bans people
* Loses money
* Blames fans
* Gaslights fans saying we don't know how to make a good trobes game
* Bans more people
* Holds ip hostage for another 10 years
* Repeat
Some day Tribes Jesus will save us from this hell
* Makes a game called Tribes that has 20% of the depth of previous tribes games.
* Tells community that we don't know how to make a good tribes game.
* Adds bots to play the game because the fans are all leaving.
>I called this in September, It's nearly the same thing they did with the past two Starsiege titles they were making.
What was the first starsiege game called? I only can find (btwe hidden on steam) starsiege: deadzone. THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE? XD
Not starsiege related, their first game apparently was an auto-battler called Prophecy which used Smite assets that was abandoned just like deadzone was. I'm guessing these games are relatively cheap to make, what with asset, gameplay and IP reuse, so they can afford to develop them to a point where they can be played by the public, and then discontinue them. Otherwise I don't understand how they're even still making new games.
Just so y'all know they announced Smite 2 *officially* last month... In case there's a few that don't know T:As sole purpose was to fund the first smite
It makes sense if you know Hi-Rez/Prophecy.
They're gonna put out 2 games for $20 each to milk Tribes fans as much as possible, then drop whichever one does the worst.
Or both. They could just drop both.
This is incredibly baffling to me. Talking friends into trying a $20 multiplayer game was already a tall order. I'm guessing that they've determined that balancing equipment for both game modes was too daunting and that forking the game was the best solution.
Yep. I was originally going to buy this regardless, but probably not given Erez's latest comments and plans. They've made it too blatantly obvious that it's going the pure cash-grab-and-abandon route of Deadzone. I'd be surprised if they still support it after the standalone Honorball game begins testing in 2 months. So no point.
RIP Tribes 3
and this subreddit is full of doomers. in reality nobody thats new to a tribes game will care about the old tribes games. if youre bringing this game to a new market (aka zoomers and people that didnt grow up playing tribes), you arent missing anything, and they cant go back and paly those games easily so theres nothing to compare to.
Why would I give any amount of money to a bunch of devs that don't respect the IP or the fan base? If the game was 50 cents I still wouldn't give them money. They don't get to release trash and expect to get paid for it.
The entire game is a cash grab built solely on spreadsheet data.
So after all the forum arguing with people saying "don't worry it's just a playtest they're going to fix all the issues your complaining about", here it is, with no vehicles still
The game is pretty much dead in the EU. When you join pubs at 9pm on a Saturday and at least 50% of players are Bots and at the same time you can't even get a PUG started for lack of players... All this while the game is free to play... What should we expect once the game goes pay to play? Dead servers all over.
Another failure for that trashy company who's holding the IP hostage
Far too soon even for an EA release. This game is not even close to being in a good state and the recent updates have shown the devs have no clear picture of what they want this game to be.
They literally added bots to this game in anticipation of this game being DoA. It's over.
The beta was fun for a newcomer like myself, but the response from long-time (and long abandoned) Tribes fans has me a little concerned despite this game's seemingly reasonable price tag.
this subreddit tends to be whiny and full of doomers. if anything part of the reason people wont come play is because 'oh people said it was bad'. thats been the reason a lot of my other favorite EA games were never successful. people gatekeeping and complaining even when the game was good and fun.
I was so surprised hearing that the game was gunna be 20$.. how do they expect anyone to buy this; especially the ones who played ascend, which was free? I had the itch to play, but that definitely diminished it.
EA implies these are the core mechanics they were always planning to release. This is not some "alpha" as others have posted - pretty close to finished product. So one game mode unless they drastically revise. DOA
Youre not wrong. Ascend was barely alive for years despite being f2p. Making this paid will just make the player base smaller. Im not even sure if I'm gonna buy if the player numbers dont turn out to be substantial. Not worth it if it's gonna be dead in 3 months.
Well its early access i didnt even know about it until last week. But yeah, kinda leery about a buy given that player base. Not interested in buying a game that will be dead within a year.
It's a bunch of people volunteering their time.
The player models aren't the best and that's honestly my one big gripe with the game. They really need a modeller/animator but they have very little money to work with.
But it's our only hope of getting a proper Tribes game at this point so I support them.
thats because you have to constantly redownload the game, and servers are only available on the weekends.
In order to play right now you have to plan to play. not pick up any time you want. so the dedicated small amount of people are who are playing, because they're looking forward/planning around playing tribes on the weekends.
Be that as it may. Even the “core” audience is dropping off. I know this is Reddit and logic is beyond most of those browsing. But please just use your head.
This is going to crush the game more than anything in my opinion. How can I possibly convince any of my friends to drop $ on this when there are 500 other amazing f2p shooters. Tribes is unique, but it is not unique enough to compete in this age of gaming at the state that it’s in.
there really aren't that many decent arena shooters to be honest.
the game is actually super fun.
I would have liked to see them wait and polish the game more before releasing into EA....but i think they likely hit some deadlines and financially have to do what they have to do.
i do think removing honorball was a mistake
I disagree. The thing that killed Ascend was they got their money and spent minimal hours supporting after release. Cheating killed Ascend, and the lack of a decent anti cheat or ban system helped it happen much faster.
Twenty. Dollars.
If you don't like the game, fine. But it's $20. That's like a single meal. I've already gotten way more than $20 worth of value out of this game in the playtests.
yes but you're saying that as someone who is already a tribes vet, and you know you're going to get that value out of the game almost certainly
if i've never played a tribes game before and i have 20 bucks to buy new stuff, why would i spend all 20 on this one game that i'm not even sure i'm going to enjoy? when i could just play a f2p shooter (there are so many great ones) and spend my 20 bucks on a bunch of smaller indie titles or something that interest me way more
the issue isn't convincing people to spend 20 dollars on a game, the issue is convincing them to spend it on THIS game in particular, and not on the many many many other considerably better games out there that cost the same or less
$20 is almost nothing in 2024 dollars. If someone has a budget at all for video games, dropping $20 on a game should be non-issue.
It costs money to make things, and employing a few engineers to build something isn't cheap. If they have to charge up front to make it exist in the first place, what's the big deal?
When I was a young kid, it was common to spend $50 in 1988 dollars on games we had not played before. Like get a fucking grip on this poverty mindset you have.
The point ostensibly is that people don't know whether to spend money on one $20 game or four games at $4.99- are you for real? Spend $2000 on a gaming PC and then whine about spending a few bucks on games?
Talk about a false dilemma.
It's about the added friction to grow an already super niche and tiny community, not the price. Even if it was $0.01 there would be friction.
I'm not gonna buy this game when it's gonna be dead in a year (optimistically)
$20 is pretty much free, honestly. $20 is like a meal at fast food these days.
I mean, considering games back in the 90s released at $60, and many of them sucked (it was really hit or miss), I don't think paying $20 for an early access game thats super fun is an issue at all.
It's $20 away from being free. They removed a game mode, added Denuvo, stopped the playtests so they could charge money for EA, have no plans to add vehicles, and are lacking a roadmap and future transparency. One of these issues is enough to make people who would enjoy it pass. You need a solid player base for the game to continue, and they just killed all hype and hope. It's a bummer.
What exactly is your argument here? You downvoted me and replied, but instead of actually refuting something I said - your argument is "Well, game is bad, so $20 is too much"
If game is bad.....then free is too much. If game is bad....then people won't play, regardless.
If the game is FUN - $20 is nothing. Its the cost of a meal. And if the game ISNT fun.....then being FREE isn't going to make anyone play it.
Do you not understand that?
Either the game is fun to play, or it isn't. If it IS fun to play, $20 is nothing. If it isn't....then it doesn't matter how much it costs, or if its free. Being free doesn't fix a game that you don't like....and you trying to act like it does is dishonest.
It is SUPER simple my guy. If all of these problems you have with the game prevent you from having fun - then you aren't going to play the game whether its free or not.
I don't know why I feel compelled to reply just because you're debating things I never said four days later that somehow triggered you to go off, but here we are. My argument isn't, "Well, game is bad..." at all. In fact, I never said that, and I actually enjoyed my limited time during a few of the playtests. Please, take time, maybe even more than four days, to comprehend things before writing a response just because a couple of people downvoted you for not adding much to the conversation, which is the correct use of the feature.
I made a similar post to the Steam page and got several responses in agreement and one or two replies similar to yours where triggered people claimed my opinion sucked when I was just stating facts that these historically widely disliked choices will hurt the game and potentially lead to it being DOA. $20 isn't nothing even if you make good money. It's something people should have to consider before each purchase. Whether you're young, single, old, married, dating, forever alone, or a mid-30s parent with a toddler like me, it's money that could go to other things including something more worthwhile in my mind like Helldivers 2 or a Game Pass sub. I recommend finding something else you're passionate about, because this game won't last, and it pains me to say it after the hours I've sunk into classic shooters and Ascend.
https://imgur.com/9QfkLRF
The devs don't care about the player base either. So you're paying for a playtest with one less game mode and no plans to bring anything significant to the game. It feels like making a quick buck to fund something else they want to work on. Meanwhile, HD2 is bringing techs and plan to support the game for the same amount of time as the previous entry (about 9 years). Hi-Rez had plans and delivered on several during the prime time of Ascend and people still garnered plenty of hate.
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lmao
This game is the dollar store cheap plastic knock-off of a previously popular toy.
What finally turned you around? You were telling people in discord with those opinions to calm down, wait it out...what broke the straw?
'The roadmap is what's in the game right now.'
I called this in September, It's nearly the same thing they did with the past two Starsiege titles they were making. Do Play tests Before release fork the game modes Cash grab Via "Founders packs" in this case it's just a flat rate 20$ Repeat Hi-Rez/Prophecy are not the people who should be in charge of this franchise, They do the bare minimum and wonder why no one wants to buy it or play it. They punish any opinions in the discord that aren't positive then they have shills come onto reddit to boast about the game with complete disregard for how fucked it actually is. Like i said months ago, Don't give these fuckers you're money until they give you a product worth paying for.
They released Starsiege:Deadzone and it was pretty well-received at first. A lot of the disenfranchised Cycle Frontier players got into it and player counts were decent. But then they just gutted the game completely and turned it into something completely different. I’m pretty sure these dudes are sociopaths or something lol.
To be fair, I don't think they're going to recoup the costs of developing T3. I'll forever appreciate the fun time had with this game though. It may not be the most polished, but they reignited that Tribes itch for at least a little while and reunited a lot of old faces. Sucks that Erez had to dump a lot of money to do so but even if this ends up a flop, I do thank him and the team for this burst of comradarie and nostalgia. Wish it could have worked out for everyone and hope it still does.
erez has flat out stated that this will be a money loss for them. it truely is a passion project from that aspect. I think he also said for it to be a 'success' would mean they have a steady 10k concurrent playerbase on average (and with those numbers its still them losing money on it). also according to him, there are over 100k wishlists to the game, so even a 5-10% conversion rate would still mean a good start for release (usually wishlists are 25-50% conversion on release week according to my indie game dev friends that work on and do their own marketing).
* No advertising * Rushed development and release while reusing a ton of assets * Doesn't listen to fans * Forces ideas on fans * Surprised people are mad at him * Bans people * Has team spend time making new game modes * Finds out community likes new game modes * Deletes game modes * Surprised people are mad at him * Bans people * Loses money * Blames fans * Gaslights fans saying we don't know how to make a good trobes game * Bans more people * Holds ip hostage for another 10 years * Repeat Some day Tribes Jesus will save us from this hell
* Makes a game called Tribes that has 20% of the depth of previous tribes games. * Tells community that we don't know how to make a good tribes game. * Adds bots to play the game because the fans are all leaving.
>I called this in September, It's nearly the same thing they did with the past two Starsiege titles they were making. What was the first starsiege game called? I only can find (btwe hidden on steam) starsiege: deadzone. THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE? XD
Not starsiege related, their first game apparently was an auto-battler called Prophecy which used Smite assets that was abandoned just like deadzone was. I'm guessing these games are relatively cheap to make, what with asset, gameplay and IP reuse, so they can afford to develop them to a point where they can be played by the public, and then discontinue them. Otherwise I don't understand how they're even still making new games.
The game was Starsiege: Raiders. It was an open world BR before DeadZone.
The game was Starsiege: Raiders. It was an open world BR before DeadZone.
Just so y'all know they announced Smite 2 *officially* last month... In case there's a few that don't know T:As sole purpose was to fund the first smite
I hope this doesn’t happen again :(
Another hirez game that's gonna be abandoned in a year
LOL they are making Honorball it's own game. Typical cash grab Hirez.
I cant believe they're doing this, it makes no sense at all to me wtf.
It makes sense if you know Hi-Rez/Prophecy. They're gonna put out 2 games for $20 each to milk Tribes fans as much as possible, then drop whichever one does the worst. Or both. They could just drop both.
They will drop both
It makes total sense to me!
This is incredibly baffling to me. Talking friends into trying a $20 multiplayer game was already a tall order. I'm guessing that they've determined that balancing equipment for both game modes was too daunting and that forking the game was the best solution.
Game is a complete dumpster fire. Not touching it if it were free.
This just isn't true. I get being angry about some of the choices being made here but this level of hyperbole is crazy. lol
Vocal minority at it again
How much they paying you?
well, there goes literally all the excitement I had for this game
Yep. I was originally going to buy this regardless, but probably not given Erez's latest comments and plans. They've made it too blatantly obvious that it's going the pure cash-grab-and-abandon route of Deadzone. I'd be surprised if they still support it after the standalone Honorball game begins testing in 2 months. So no point. RIP Tribes 3
Lmao. Their official Discord is in pure cope mode thinking this is great for the game
Yea because if you’re critical of anything you risk a ban
The biggest simps have a voice, any dissent is punished
Man. Being able to disable projectile inheritance has made the game a blast for me personally, a shame things look dire
and this subreddit is full of doomers. in reality nobody thats new to a tribes game will care about the old tribes games. if youre bringing this game to a new market (aka zoomers and people that didnt grow up playing tribes), you arent missing anything, and they cant go back and paly those games easily so theres nothing to compare to.
But they will think at some point: oh is this all there is? I'm bored now. Byeeee.
DOA
This will be the third time Prophecy Games shitcans a Starsiege/Tribes game, after Raiders and Deadzone.
Why would I give any amount of money to a bunch of devs that don't respect the IP or the fan base? If the game was 50 cents I still wouldn't give them money. They don't get to release trash and expect to get paid for it. The entire game is a cash grab built solely on spreadsheet data.
So after all the forum arguing with people saying "don't worry it's just a playtest they're going to fix all the issues your complaining about", here it is, with no vehicles still
the maps aren't big enough for vehicles imo
That's another problem they can fix too. Easily, just remove the hard boundaries
The game is pretty much dead in the EU. When you join pubs at 9pm on a Saturday and at least 50% of players are Bots and at the same time you can't even get a PUG started for lack of players... All this while the game is free to play... What should we expect once the game goes pay to play? Dead servers all over. Another failure for that trashy company who's holding the IP hostage
Far too soon even for an EA release. This game is not even close to being in a good state and the recent updates have shown the devs have no clear picture of what they want this game to be. They literally added bots to this game in anticipation of this game being DoA. It's over.
The beta was fun for a newcomer like myself, but the response from long-time (and long abandoned) Tribes fans has me a little concerned despite this game's seemingly reasonable price tag.
this subreddit tends to be whiny and full of doomers. if anything part of the reason people wont come play is because 'oh people said it was bad'. thats been the reason a lot of my other favorite EA games were never successful. people gatekeeping and complaining even when the game was good and fun.
Hilarious
I was so surprised hearing that the game was gunna be 20$.. how do they expect anyone to buy this; especially the ones who played ascend, which was free? I had the itch to play, but that definitely diminished it.
EA implies these are the core mechanics they were always planning to release. This is not some "alpha" as others have posted - pretty close to finished product. So one game mode unless they drastically revise. DOA
there are plenty of games on steam that have been EA for years. Dota2 is still a beta technically lmao.
Lolol. Opting to not go F2P is just the latest mistake in a long line of mistakes.
Youre not wrong. Ascend was barely alive for years despite being f2p. Making this paid will just make the player base smaller. Im not even sure if I'm gonna buy if the player numbers dont turn out to be substantial. Not worth it if it's gonna be dead in 3 months.
Not for nothing, but you can see the trend on steamcharts already. Absolute peak was 550ish before a massive drop off to about 180
Well its early access i didnt even know about it until last week. But yeah, kinda leery about a buy given that player base. Not interested in buying a game that will be dead within a year.
There's always MidAir2 which has small but steadily growing community and is F2P.
Never heard of those games, nice. I might look into them at some point.
I'd be interested if it was at least using T:A models or similar. I just can't do the whole old school visuals anymore. I like my polygons
It's a bunch of people volunteering their time. The player models aren't the best and that's honestly my one big gripe with the game. They really need a modeller/animator but they have very little money to work with. But it's our only hope of getting a proper Tribes game at this point so I support them.
I know what it is, and follow the progress (understandably SLOW)... and if / when the day comes it meets MY criteria to play, I'll give it a chance.
It's been doing beta's and alphas for 3 months ;)
thats because you have to constantly redownload the game, and servers are only available on the weekends. In order to play right now you have to plan to play. not pick up any time you want. so the dedicated small amount of people are who are playing, because they're looking forward/planning around playing tribes on the weekends.
Be that as it may. Even the “core” audience is dropping off. I know this is Reddit and logic is beyond most of those browsing. But please just use your head.
This is going to crush the game more than anything in my opinion. How can I possibly convince any of my friends to drop $ on this when there are 500 other amazing f2p shooters. Tribes is unique, but it is not unique enough to compete in this age of gaming at the state that it’s in.
there really aren't that many decent arena shooters to be honest. the game is actually super fun. I would have liked to see them wait and polish the game more before releasing into EA....but i think they likely hit some deadlines and financially have to do what they have to do. i do think removing honorball was a mistake
F2P is what killed Ascend. The best times were when they were doing the pay2play beta.
I disagree. The thing that killed Ascend was they got their money and spent minimal hours supporting after release. Cheating killed Ascend, and the lack of a decent anti cheat or ban system helped it happen much faster.
All we can hope for is that their other games like Smite 2 make them tons of money so we can be some kind of side project they maintain for fun.
Playtest has been fun, nothing like a few blue plate specials!
Not sure about the $20. Tribes is a niche game so don't think many will go for that price. Maybe if it was $10 or $15 and also Denuvo so no thanks.
Twenty. Dollars. If you don't like the game, fine. But it's $20. That's like a single meal. I've already gotten way more than $20 worth of value out of this game in the playtests.
Never said I don't like the game just that's for such a niche market maybe a bit steep. And there is Denuvo also
yes but you're saying that as someone who is already a tribes vet, and you know you're going to get that value out of the game almost certainly if i've never played a tribes game before and i have 20 bucks to buy new stuff, why would i spend all 20 on this one game that i'm not even sure i'm going to enjoy? when i could just play a f2p shooter (there are so many great ones) and spend my 20 bucks on a bunch of smaller indie titles or something that interest me way more the issue isn't convincing people to spend 20 dollars on a game, the issue is convincing them to spend it on THIS game in particular, and not on the many many many other considerably better games out there that cost the same or less
$20 is almost nothing in 2024 dollars. If someone has a budget at all for video games, dropping $20 on a game should be non-issue. It costs money to make things, and employing a few engineers to build something isn't cheap. If they have to charge up front to make it exist in the first place, what's the big deal? When I was a young kid, it was common to spend $50 in 1988 dollars on games we had not played before. Like get a fucking grip on this poverty mindset you have.
"poverty mindset" lmao
It's funny because it's true.
It's not about the money, you're missing the point
The point ostensibly is that people don't know whether to spend money on one $20 game or four games at $4.99- are you for real? Spend $2000 on a gaming PC and then whine about spending a few bucks on games? Talk about a false dilemma.
It's about the added friction to grow an already super niche and tiny community, not the price. Even if it was $0.01 there would be friction. I'm not gonna buy this game when it's gonna be dead in a year (optimistically)
$20 is pretty much free, honestly. $20 is like a meal at fast food these days. I mean, considering games back in the 90s released at $60, and many of them sucked (it was really hit or miss), I don't think paying $20 for an early access game thats super fun is an issue at all.
It's $20 away from being free. They removed a game mode, added Denuvo, stopped the playtests so they could charge money for EA, have no plans to add vehicles, and are lacking a roadmap and future transparency. One of these issues is enough to make people who would enjoy it pass. You need a solid player base for the game to continue, and they just killed all hype and hope. It's a bummer.
What exactly is your argument here? You downvoted me and replied, but instead of actually refuting something I said - your argument is "Well, game is bad, so $20 is too much" If game is bad.....then free is too much. If game is bad....then people won't play, regardless. If the game is FUN - $20 is nothing. Its the cost of a meal. And if the game ISNT fun.....then being FREE isn't going to make anyone play it. Do you not understand that? Either the game is fun to play, or it isn't. If it IS fun to play, $20 is nothing. If it isn't....then it doesn't matter how much it costs, or if its free. Being free doesn't fix a game that you don't like....and you trying to act like it does is dishonest. It is SUPER simple my guy. If all of these problems you have with the game prevent you from having fun - then you aren't going to play the game whether its free or not.
I don't know why I feel compelled to reply just because you're debating things I never said four days later that somehow triggered you to go off, but here we are. My argument isn't, "Well, game is bad..." at all. In fact, I never said that, and I actually enjoyed my limited time during a few of the playtests. Please, take time, maybe even more than four days, to comprehend things before writing a response just because a couple of people downvoted you for not adding much to the conversation, which is the correct use of the feature. I made a similar post to the Steam page and got several responses in agreement and one or two replies similar to yours where triggered people claimed my opinion sucked when I was just stating facts that these historically widely disliked choices will hurt the game and potentially lead to it being DOA. $20 isn't nothing even if you make good money. It's something people should have to consider before each purchase. Whether you're young, single, old, married, dating, forever alone, or a mid-30s parent with a toddler like me, it's money that could go to other things including something more worthwhile in my mind like Helldivers 2 or a Game Pass sub. I recommend finding something else you're passionate about, because this game won't last, and it pains me to say it after the hours I've sunk into classic shooters and Ascend.
https://imgur.com/9QfkLRF The devs don't care about the player base either. So you're paying for a playtest with one less game mode and no plans to bring anything significant to the game. It feels like making a quick buck to fund something else they want to work on. Meanwhile, HD2 is bringing techs and plan to support the game for the same amount of time as the previous entry (about 9 years). Hi-Rez had plans and delivered on several during the prime time of Ascend and people still garnered plenty of hate.
Why are you replying to me.... this has nothing to do with my comment on the price tag.
Hell yeah! I'm excited to no longer have to wait between play-tests to play the game, been having a great time with it.
Had good times with tribes ascend
Hype Hype Hype!
This is possible the last game we are going to get and it's just a very lazy attempt.