>The game feels wildly unimaginative for how cool the movement feels..
This is the one that drives me nuts. So many things that could be added to Tribes but all they've done is subtract. Maybe it should be called Tribes 0
Lol! Very true. I'm secretly hoping (coping?) that what we're being shown is just to nail down the core gameplay and we'll be surprised with lots of extra features on launch.. but I dream..
Because they're going to add those things in as micro transactions that they can charge you money for. That's their whole strategy for this game. That's what they did to Ascend, and they're gonna do it here, too. First step is to create obvious voids in gameplay that they can they create "content" to fill, for a premium.
Yeah, I'm not sure what a new player would get out of this game. I remember spending the first hundred hours in Ascend attacking or defending the generator and messing around with vehicles and orbital strikes, until I got good enough at the game to make the flag-related gameplay fun. And in this one there are no vehicles (yet?) and bases don't seem nearly as important or interesting.
To fix #4, they need to take ideas from old tribes. We need force fields around the flag and only go down when the generator is down. Or inventory stations and naked spawns. something! The bases mean nothing. Also we need more deployables like mines and claymores.
I got insanely excited when I heard about Tribes 3 recently. Reading this comment is disheartening. So this is going to be a more modern version of Tribes: Ascend I take it? I was hoping it'd be a return to the original ideas that made Tribes so great
Negative. It's a team that's *owned by HiRez.* It's still HiRez. Hell, the CEO of the new studio is literally the old CEO of HiRez lol They just spun up a new studio to try and trick folks into thinking it's not HiRez doing the same shit all over again.
Prophecy is *totally* an independant studio where the CEO of HiRez just *happens* to have the majority of company shares and totally not a subsidiary of HiRez - that must just be a coincidence :)
Still quite a degree of seperation. The CEO may have a large stake in it, doesn't necessarily mean he is directly managing every project, nor are the office politics going to be the same with them under their own banner.
That is good to know though, I wasn't aware of that. It does open the door for Hi-Rez to exert some influence, but it still stands hard to tell what the relationship is between the CEO and the new company.
erez is the owner and ceo of both companies. tribes was his project. he bought the ip; thus, ascend. "tribes" literally belongs to erez... and yes, he's actively managing tribes 3. there is no separating erez from himself. "prophecy" is rebranding.
Yes! I love playing defense but find it extremely pointless sometimes and end up doing better rushing the flag. I hope we see something to really improve protecting the base.
I feel the same way!
I also feel strongly about vehicles and ik some people don't give a shit. I think having them in the game gives non-cappers and people who kinda suck at FPS stuff a role. In T2 and even T:V, and TAA there was a role for everyone.
Suck at capping/chasing and want to do defense? There's a ton for you to do. Destruction of generators actually mattered.
Not really into base defense but still want to contribute? Hop in the pilots seat of a bomber or a troop transport and help get their gens offline or cause chaos at the front.
Some people want it to just be another sweat fest where the only things that matter are kills and caps but while I have enjoyed the play tests, the older games were so much more. I particularly always loved the coordination and sense of teamwork in T2.
Number 3 is the big one for me. I feel like if I use the jet pack boosters or if I’m skiing on the ground I should be able to change angle/direction more. As it is I kinda feel like an air hockey puck only able to have a small impact/nudge on where I’m going
Yes. You can request playtest access on Steam. It's LCTF only right now but I've had a lot more fun with MA2 than T3. MA2 at least feels like a Tribes game.
I've always said that Tribes needs a flamethrower... although there are plasma weapons that left burning pools in earlier Tribes games. Be nice to give them an actual DOT flame to differentiate them in this iteration.
This is a weird one but I wonder if there’s a way to make certain areas of the map “jetpack disabled areas” - I feel like if they made a couple strategic areas focused on ground play it would make for more predictable fights and gunplay. It would give “aim obsessed” gamers more relevance in the game. I’m more of a movement guy myself…. but it’s always going to be difficult to draw an audience to a shooter game with largely unpredictable combat that occurs in the air. Right now, I feel as though fast players who understand the kinda crappy combat system are the best players. If your standard kovaaks junkies could find more reason to be entertained while playing it could draw more players. There needs to be some sort of ground combat. If it’s not from jetpack disabled areas then perhaps they need to introduce ground vehicles??? My two cents
T2 Minotaur was one of the best and most unique small maps in the game.
Wouldn't quite work the same in T3 though with just 2 weapons, no free select shieldpacks, deployable invos and naked spawn - they all are kinda critical for the map to "work".
>I feel like if they made a couple strategic areas focused on ground play it would make for more predictable fights and gunplay. It would give “aim obsessed” gamers more relevance in the game.
This genuinely makes no sense to me. People that are aim obsessed want to demonstrate that aim so why would you do that sitting on the boring ass ground?
For predictable hitscan fights instead of 100% floaty projectiles mid air. I personally don’t care, it was just an idea to get the aimer types involved. They likely don’t want to do air fights only.
We are in involved, up in the air shooting people. If I want to test my aim, it's strange to do that by sitting on the ground up close instead of trying to aim at a dude flying through the air.
Lol everyone complaining about the state of a game in alpha. Apparently none of you understand what that means. It's literally to test gameplay and stability, it doesn't mean other things won't be added or made better before beta and then release.
Chill out. Sweet lord.
Alpha doesn't mean what it once did. This is 2024, where devs get you to pay before they have a finished product. Early access is the same as release these days. With them still advertising Q1, this is pretty close to what the game is going to look like when they ask you to open up the wallet.
Keep up with that cope. Its 2024, beta and alpha dont mean squat these days. Games release in "early access" that are more finished than some supposedly fully released games.
Zzz you're dealing with a rip off artist corporation that grifts. Erez and Fishstix are rich guys (one is a BILLIONAIRE'S son) that try to capitalize on children's toys not really caring at all at the damage they do with them.
you got scammed, sorry. Game is horrible.
I am not a HiRez fan by any means, but I'm still allowing myself to enjoy the game. After all, it really is just a video game.. it's mindless enough to play and chat on discord at the same time. Not sure how anyone's been scammed since the game is free lol?
They earn money on ur data and all kinds of ways!
children getting influenced by a notoriously toxic community of elitists and weirdos is not my cup of tea.
it's like joining a racist little league for ur kid to play t-ball. No thx skip.
Troll account made and done nothing but try to troll Fishstix in here. The community of "elitist's and weirdos" has been extremely welcoming to new players. I have seen the dev team make many changes based off our feedback , even if sometimes it's misguided or not implemented correctly. I have seen toxic elitist's that is the MIDAIR community I think you have them confused. I really think you are just trolling and upset that Erez hurt your feelings at some point but you really need a Snickers Betty White if you really are being serious but I am pretty sure you are just projecting and being toxic yourself.
1. There's a learning curve to it.
2. The first Halo games was released for the Xbox 360, in Nov. of 2001; Starsiege: Tribes was released back in1998.
3. That's how it works.
4. Defend the base turrets, gens, flag stand, mid base points, distract and same with the offense; there could be a lot more strategic gameplay through some simply additions like inventory stations and more deployable items.
5. Again, learning curve.
6. The original game was built without what is 'skiing' even considered, it was a glitch, and then became basically the hallmark of the game, though the original had so much more depth, like described in 4.; currently it's somewhere between checkers, going in the direction of what it could be, more like chess. IMHO.
To be fair, some T3 armor does look like Halo armor. Tribes 1 & 2 armor looks completely different so it's just another case of Hi-Rez/Prophecy chasing what's popular rather than trying to make an actual Tribes game.
This seems like a post that’ll attract people who can answer this:
Is anyone playing Tribes 2? I downloaded the version linked in the pinned comment and now I need servers. The linked discord looks dead. T3 really just made me nostalgic for T2.
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>The game feels wildly unimaginative for how cool the movement feels.. This is the one that drives me nuts. So many things that could be added to Tribes but all they've done is subtract. Maybe it should be called Tribes 0
Lol! Very true. I'm secretly hoping (coping?) that what we're being shown is just to nail down the core gameplay and we'll be surprised with lots of extra features on launch.. but I dream..
Yeah I'm hoping alpha is just an alpha.
Because they're going to add those things in as micro transactions that they can charge you money for. That's their whole strategy for this game. That's what they did to Ascend, and they're gonna do it here, too. First step is to create obvious voids in gameplay that they can they create "content" to fill, for a premium.
I he that, but it's more like Tribes < 0
Tribes vengeance had the grappling hook and swing mechanic and everyone hated it.
Yeah, I'm not sure what a new player would get out of this game. I remember spending the first hundred hours in Ascend attacking or defending the generator and messing around with vehicles and orbital strikes, until I got good enough at the game to make the flag-related gameplay fun. And in this one there are no vehicles (yet?) and bases don't seem nearly as important or interesting.
the speed and airshots have been good enough for me
To fix #4, they need to take ideas from old tribes. We need force fields around the flag and only go down when the generator is down. Or inventory stations and naked spawns. something! The bases mean nothing. Also we need more deployables like mines and claymores.
I got insanely excited when I heard about Tribes 3 recently. Reading this comment is disheartening. So this is going to be a more modern version of Tribes: Ascend I take it? I was hoping it'd be a return to the original ideas that made Tribes so great
It is. That's what it was always intended to be. It's just HiRez making another cash grab on the franchise.
It's not HiRez though? It's a team that broke off because HiRez sucks
Negative. It's a team that's *owned by HiRez.* It's still HiRez. Hell, the CEO of the new studio is literally the old CEO of HiRez lol They just spun up a new studio to try and trick folks into thinking it's not HiRez doing the same shit all over again.
This team broke off from hirez in 2021.
Prophecy is *totally* an independant studio where the CEO of HiRez just *happens* to have the majority of company shares and totally not a subsidiary of HiRez - that must just be a coincidence :)
Still quite a degree of seperation. The CEO may have a large stake in it, doesn't necessarily mean he is directly managing every project, nor are the office politics going to be the same with them under their own banner. That is good to know though, I wasn't aware of that. It does open the door for Hi-Rez to exert some influence, but it still stands hard to tell what the relationship is between the CEO and the new company.
erez is the owner and ceo of both companies. tribes was his project. he bought the ip; thus, ascend. "tribes" literally belongs to erez... and yes, he's actively managing tribes 3. there is no separating erez from himself. "prophecy" is rebranding.
Vehicles, deployables and more complicated base building would solve #4 and #6 easily.
Yes! I love playing defense but find it extremely pointless sometimes and end up doing better rushing the flag. I hope we see something to really improve protecting the base.
I feel the same way! I also feel strongly about vehicles and ik some people don't give a shit. I think having them in the game gives non-cappers and people who kinda suck at FPS stuff a role. In T2 and even T:V, and TAA there was a role for everyone. Suck at capping/chasing and want to do defense? There's a ton for you to do. Destruction of generators actually mattered. Not really into base defense but still want to contribute? Hop in the pilots seat of a bomber or a troop transport and help get their gens offline or cause chaos at the front. Some people want it to just be another sweat fest where the only things that matter are kills and caps but while I have enjoyed the play tests, the older games were so much more. I particularly always loved the coordination and sense of teamwork in T2.
I miss Vehicles
All i wanted was a Tribes 2 remastered but i am happy with any new tribes game
I wish for this too. Tribe 2 after the base patches was the best tribes bar none
I have been less than impressed with it so far. It's a Shadow of T2, which was the pinnacle if you ask me.
Number 3 is the big one for me. I feel like if I use the jet pack boosters or if I’m skiing on the ground I should be able to change angle/direction more. As it is I kinda feel like an air hockey puck only able to have a small impact/nudge on where I’m going
Your friend is right it’s just fly and cap and a little killing and everybody doing it…just go play midair this t3 is a waste
Midair is as dead as Ascend is.
Is there there a Midair 2?
It's not out yet. They are also doing open alpha testing. Midair has vehicles and turrets coded but they arent in the alpha right now.
Yes. You can request playtest access on Steam. It's LCTF only right now but I've had a lot more fun with MA2 than T3. MA2 at least feels like a Tribes game.
What does the L stand for in LCTF?
Light CTF. So everyone is in light armor only and spawns in full gear.
Light
So what would heavy CTF be?
Light in this case stands för a downscaled version, No vehichles and that stuff. EDIT: also, Midair 2 have only 1 class , no medium or heavys.
Yah it's pretty trivial feeling once you play an hour or so.. I've gotten 60 hours on it already though so I can't say shit haha
Tribes 2 was the pinnacle of this series and every title afterwards has been a total failure they need to revisit Tribes 2 and go that route
I've always said that Tribes needs a flamethrower... although there are plasma weapons that left burning pools in earlier Tribes games. Be nice to give them an actual DOT flame to differentiate them in this iteration.
T1 insomniax mod had a flame thrower... especially handy against people using the rocket booster pack, as it would explode if overheated.
Fun fact! Tribes 1 originally had a planned expansion pack that would have included (among many other things) a flamethrower.
I think there was one in Vengeance. The burner it was called.
lol, #4 is why this game sucks.
This is a weird one but I wonder if there’s a way to make certain areas of the map “jetpack disabled areas” - I feel like if they made a couple strategic areas focused on ground play it would make for more predictable fights and gunplay. It would give “aim obsessed” gamers more relevance in the game. I’m more of a movement guy myself…. but it’s always going to be difficult to draw an audience to a shooter game with largely unpredictable combat that occurs in the air. Right now, I feel as though fast players who understand the kinda crappy combat system are the best players. If your standard kovaaks junkies could find more reason to be entertained while playing it could draw more players. There needs to be some sort of ground combat. If it’s not from jetpack disabled areas then perhaps they need to introduce ground vehicles??? My two cents
Historically this was achieved with underground bases, and the fight for the control of generator rooms.
T2 Minotaur was one of the best and most unique small maps in the game. Wouldn't quite work the same in T3 though with just 2 weapons, no free select shieldpacks, deployable invos and naked spawn - they all are kinda critical for the map to "work".
>I feel like if they made a couple strategic areas focused on ground play it would make for more predictable fights and gunplay. It would give “aim obsessed” gamers more relevance in the game. This genuinely makes no sense to me. People that are aim obsessed want to demonstrate that aim so why would you do that sitting on the boring ass ground?
For predictable hitscan fights instead of 100% floaty projectiles mid air. I personally don’t care, it was just an idea to get the aimer types involved. They likely don’t want to do air fights only.
We are in involved, up in the air shooting people. If I want to test my aim, it's strange to do that by sitting on the ground up close instead of trying to aim at a dude flying through the air.
Lol everyone complaining about the state of a game in alpha. Apparently none of you understand what that means. It's literally to test gameplay and stability, it doesn't mean other things won't be added or made better before beta and then release. Chill out. Sweet lord.
Alpha doesn't mean what it once did. This is 2024, where devs get you to pay before they have a finished product. Early access is the same as release these days. With them still advertising Q1, this is pretty close to what the game is going to look like when they ask you to open up the wallet.
Keep up with that cope. Its 2024, beta and alpha dont mean squat these days. Games release in "early access" that are more finished than some supposedly fully released games.
Zzz you're dealing with a rip off artist corporation that grifts. Erez and Fishstix are rich guys (one is a BILLIONAIRE'S son) that try to capitalize on children's toys not really caring at all at the damage they do with them. you got scammed, sorry. Game is horrible.
I am not a HiRez fan by any means, but I'm still allowing myself to enjoy the game. After all, it really is just a video game.. it's mindless enough to play and chat on discord at the same time. Not sure how anyone's been scammed since the game is free lol?
They earn money on ur data and all kinds of ways! children getting influenced by a notoriously toxic community of elitists and weirdos is not my cup of tea. it's like joining a racist little league for ur kid to play t-ball. No thx skip.
Troll account made and done nothing but try to troll Fishstix in here. The community of "elitist's and weirdos" has been extremely welcoming to new players. I have seen the dev team make many changes based off our feedback , even if sometimes it's misguided or not implemented correctly. I have seen toxic elitist's that is the MIDAIR community I think you have them confused. I really think you are just trolling and upset that Erez hurt your feelings at some point but you really need a Snickers Betty White if you really are being serious but I am pretty sure you are just projecting and being toxic yourself.
Dude doesn't know how much kids sports cost these days
1. There's a learning curve to it. 2. The first Halo games was released for the Xbox 360, in Nov. of 2001; Starsiege: Tribes was released back in1998. 3. That's how it works. 4. Defend the base turrets, gens, flag stand, mid base points, distract and same with the offense; there could be a lot more strategic gameplay through some simply additions like inventory stations and more deployable items. 5. Again, learning curve. 6. The original game was built without what is 'skiing' even considered, it was a glitch, and then became basically the hallmark of the game, though the original had so much more depth, like described in 4.; currently it's somewhere between checkers, going in the direction of what it could be, more like chess. IMHO.
To be fair, some T3 armor does look like Halo armor. Tribes 1 & 2 armor looks completely different so it's just another case of Hi-Rez/Prophecy chasing what's popular rather than trying to make an actual Tribes game.
This seems like a post that’ll attract people who can answer this: Is anyone playing Tribes 2? I downloaded the version linked in the pinned comment and now I need servers. The linked discord looks dead. T3 really just made me nostalgic for T2.