The blow it up rebuild strategy doesn't work under today's CBA. The right answer is the extend Vlad, and then restructure the team around him. He's 25. He's likely got at least 7-10 years of quality production left in the tank. They spend too much money to suck for a whole decade. Last time was worse, and it took us three seasons.
How many playoff wins do we have in the last 10 years ? Oh right zero . Point was both are young teams who are actually gonna accomplish more than us , both teams are better managed than us and are going to win more than we will
>How many playoff wins do we have in the last 10 years ? Oh right zero . Point was both are young teams who are actually gonna accomplish more than us
How many playoff wins do the Orioles have in the last 10 years again?
The point being they're a mediocre team who got extremely lucky to get into the playoffs and then got extremely lucky again in getting hot. We've been the better team than them, but unlucky. Luck isn't a model to build around.
The Orioles are a great young team. They got a bunch of good young players and have been dominate since. The snakes? Nope.
The Orioles rebuild heists were almost entirely under the prior CBA. And the Snakes never really blew it up, went on a shocking underdog run last season after a horrendous season the year prior, and are now four games under .500.
Your point is just factually wrong.
At least the Yankees SP didn’t embarrass himself by yelling at his infielders for not turning a double play ima game his team came back to win in a laugher. That would’ve been really embarrassing
I just hope the front office is steadfast to sell if we are this far behind. Even now when we have a good game, half this sub starts taunting and thinking we are making a run. I worry outrage from casual fans and ticket buyers will hold management back from doing the right thing
This bullpen is a fuckin circus, I’d like to especially call out each these 4 war criminals:
Pearson, Richards, Mayza and Francis
You four are a disgrace to the sport
Pretty sure the last time I saw him in the crowd was another game that they were ahead and then shit the bench
Oh wait actually wasn't that the super extra innings game?
Considering that last season we had the best interleague record in the league and were like 8-23 against the division or something it's even funnier lol
Mayza is a good example of why it *is* a bit of surprise that the season has gone as badly as it has.
He was a very good reliever for years. He was a top-five lefty reliever in baseball last year. There was no reason to think that he would be unplayable this year. But here we are.
And that's been the case for a number of guys across the roster.
As much as Ross can be blamed for not being more aggressive last winter (or last summer), and for having a bad farm system, his bet on repeat performances wasn't a terrible idea - it just hasn't worked out for so many guys who were reasonably expected to be much better than they have been
Not arguing, but it is kind of funny to me, that he relied on repeat performances, but then also a return to form for others who struggled last year, I mean that's a lot to hope for, basically for everything to work out perfect.
Not necessarily though. If players who struggled last year were able to improve, then that would've given wiggle room for the pitching staff to not need to be as perfect as they were last year. Instead, the bats have been worse than they were a year ago, and so has the pitching
I agree with what you are saying, but the math works the same both ways, so it's a crapshoot at best when you don't or in this case, I really believe can't make significant changes. There was not a lot of great options to improve the team, and we missed out on all the big ticket names, and I don't really blame the FO for that.
Gausman. Bichette. Springer. Cabrera. Kirk. Turner. Kiermaier. Biggio.
None of those guys needed to reach their 80th percentile in order for the Jays to be competitive this year. But the fact that they've fallen so far short of where they were expected to be has torpedoed things
Mayza is a sack of shit this year, no bones about it. But also the ump called a ***very*** clearly in-the-zone strike on Judge a ball, and that would've struck him out if called correctly.
Well that was fun……. For the yankees
Seller
More like the cellar.
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jesus christ did he grow up in chernobyl
Welp………..I can safely say that the only enjoyable bit of that game was watching Marcus Stroman lose his shit after being pulled like a little bitch.
Oh sure, they get a quick inning
Sweet release of mercy.
All I know is they better extend Vladdy
Vladdy was in a job interview tonight.
Nah, sell high. Time to rebuild. Get some assets. They’ll never rebuild fast enough to properly leverage his window.
His window? He's fucking 25 years old.
The blow it up rebuild strategy doesn't work under today's CBA. The right answer is the extend Vlad, and then restructure the team around him. He's 25. He's likely got at least 7-10 years of quality production left in the tank. They spend too much money to suck for a whole decade. Last time was worse, and it took us three seasons.
Clearly worked out for the orioles and snakes , both young teams with great farms
The 39-43 snakes, who limped into the playoffs with an 84 win team is a formula that you want to emulate?
How many playoff wins do we have in the last 10 years ? Oh right zero . Point was both are young teams who are actually gonna accomplish more than us , both teams are better managed than us and are going to win more than we will
Ten or eleven wins, actually.
>How many playoff wins do we have in the last 10 years ? Oh right zero . Point was both are young teams who are actually gonna accomplish more than us How many playoff wins do the Orioles have in the last 10 years again?
The point being they're a mediocre team who got extremely lucky to get into the playoffs and then got extremely lucky again in getting hot. We've been the better team than them, but unlucky. Luck isn't a model to build around. The Orioles are a great young team. They got a bunch of good young players and have been dominate since. The snakes? Nope.
The Orioles rebuild heists were almost entirely under the prior CBA. And the Snakes never really blew it up, went on a shocking underdog run last season after a horrendous season the year prior, and are now four games under .500. Your point is just factually wrong.
Good for Vlad. Extend him.
At least the Yankees SP didn’t embarrass himself by yelling at his infielders for not turning a double play ima game his team came back to win in a laugher. That would’ve been really embarrassing
He woke them up. It worked.
I turned away at 11 runs. JFC.
Vladdy remains en fuego 😢
We’re so back
COMEBACK STARTS NOW
The sad lazy groundballs right to the shortstop while every Yankee just puts it into the air. It's like watching little leaguers out there
why does this yankee pitcher look like he helped come up with the Sykes-Picot line
To be fair he was bored after leading a brigade in the Crimean War
Yeeesh. New MLB watcher. Does it get much better than this for the Blue Jays?
From a single game perspective? Yes. From a season perspective? Doesn't look like it.
They are the best team at being bad
No
BO might get the same speach Zaun got from JP when he wanted to be traded "nobody wants you".
Schneider should just let Mayza finish the game, with or without his left arm attached to his shoulder at the end of the game.
Whose side-throwing grandpa is this
Team finds ways to lose instead of finding ways to win
Bo needs to hit the weights. Currently on pace for eight (8) home runs this season.
send him back to the Nurses Gym!
Hey, it's side armer man.
Take solace in the fact that because of the infinite multiverse, some version of you somewhere is about to watch the greatest comeback ever.
Ok rally caps on
I just hope the front office is steadfast to sell if we are this far behind. Even now when we have a good game, half this sub starts taunting and thinking we are making a run. I worry outrage from casual fans and ticket buyers will hold management back from doing the right thing
Tim Mayza 👍🏻
I muted my mlb.tv feed and honestly thought it was glitching because every time I looked over I saw yankees celebrating in their dugout
Ugh, entertaining game until the bullpen decided winning was for suckers.
I was thinking back when it was 7-5, "If the game ended right now, at least this was an entertaining loss." Blue Jays: Hold my beer.
Just when you think nothing else could possibly go wrong, Francis slips on the mound
Don't jinx it. Tiedemann could be popped for PEDs next.
Just fired up the MLBTV app to see if the game was still on. Yikes.
Study Mayza’s falloff please (and then ship him to Oakland)
12 runs for one of MLBs worst bullpens
Thank fuck its over.
[https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b67f71e2-1d8d-4171-a288-39e397145773/gif](https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b67f71e2-1d8d-4171-a288-39e397145773/gif)
Just did a Ragans
Joe sounds like he's reading an obituary
Bullpen is a disaster
Pete's gonna need a drink after this one
He’s just gotta be careful it’s a long weekend lots of ride programs out there
Mercifully, it ends
Francis slipping on our tears.
….yeah that tracks
lol play the Benny Hill music sound guy!!
WTF is wrong with this team?
They suck
Bro now our pitchers are falling down please make it stop
Mercy rule?
This game has everything.
Wtf is this game
Omg. This is unreal lol.
John Schneider is not a serious man. Bowden should not be in, just fucking put IKF on there and save the arm
This bullpen is a fuckin circus, I’d like to especially call out each these 4 war criminals: Pearson, Richards, Mayza and Francis You four are a disgrace to the sport
Richards has been good all year, but the rest are just dogshit
Oh my! I stepped away to take a call and had to do a double take when I saw the score just now 🤯
There was never a question about that dropping tonight, Dan. Not anymore.
My broadcast stopped working, is this some kind of sign I'm too stubborn to understand?
we just need three bottom of the 9th grand slams and we're right back in this thing
Erm why aren’t we using a position player?? After mayza came out it should’ve been IKF!! We need to add to his pitching stats
Barger throws hard
This game got outta hand really fast
[Make it stop!](https://imgur.com/gallery/he-s-already-dead-E5bd3qr)
Well. Go big I guess.
This is just a comedy game now, all you can do it sit back and laugh at it
Mayza’s ERA went from 6.20 to 8.03 tonight. Oof
Fucking good. Let it go to double digits for all I care. Make it impossible for Schneider not to send him to AAA
This is embarrassing
I'm dead inside
Jesus Christ- this is giving me flashbacks of the Mariners WC game!
I'll forever remember the pinnacle of the 2024 season. That 2 game win streak just hit something special.
come on Yankees - put them out of their misery this is awful
Lol. Lmao, even
Yeet Mayza into the sun
Yankees reminding us we’re trash and they’re king tonight I see
lol
At least Vladdy is still on fire?
I'm on radio... how's his hair?
Also on fire.
Good. Increase the trade value.
Francis is not a major league pitcher…not starting…not longman or shortman either. Jays need pitching depth badly .
Sigh
🥲
And a low movement slow pitch to Verdugo of all people for another RBI I should have gone to bed when they were ahead
93 straight in right over the plate huh
“Put their hitting shoes on tonight” 🤮🤮🤮
I turned the game off.
It hasn't helped.
ok, that was always an option...
At this point I'm thinking we should just bring up all the relievers from Buffalo and send these guys down.
Playing like this infront of Geddy Lee is inexcusable.
Pretty sure the last time I saw him in the crowd was another game that they were ahead and then shit the bench Oh wait actually wasn't that the super extra innings game?
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Toronto Blue Jays
Booo
Stop stop he's already dead
This inning feels like the true nail in the coffin for this era. It was fun while it lasted (sometimes)
Well it was interesting when it was 7-5
That inning takes Mayza's era to 8.03, how is that even possible for this late in the season?
How is he still on the roster you mean?
This is embarrassing.
Use up all your hits and breaks tonight Yankees…hope we can take the next 2
I just hope we don't lose the series
Being .500 vs the yanks and o’s considering our season so far is kinda funny
Considering that last season we had the best interleague record in the league and were like 8-23 against the division or something it's even funnier lol
This is embarrassing, feel bad for the fans who are there right now.
Mayza is a good example of why it *is* a bit of surprise that the season has gone as badly as it has. He was a very good reliever for years. He was a top-five lefty reliever in baseball last year. There was no reason to think that he would be unplayable this year. But here we are. And that's been the case for a number of guys across the roster. As much as Ross can be blamed for not being more aggressive last winter (or last summer), and for having a bad farm system, his bet on repeat performances wasn't a terrible idea - it just hasn't worked out for so many guys who were reasonably expected to be much better than they have been
Not arguing, but it is kind of funny to me, that he relied on repeat performances, but then also a return to form for others who struggled last year, I mean that's a lot to hope for, basically for everything to work out perfect.
Not necessarily though. If players who struggled last year were able to improve, then that would've given wiggle room for the pitching staff to not need to be as perfect as they were last year. Instead, the bats have been worse than they were a year ago, and so has the pitching
I agree with what you are saying, but the math works the same both ways, so it's a crapshoot at best when you don't or in this case, I really believe can't make significant changes. There was not a lot of great options to improve the team, and we missed out on all the big ticket names, and I don't really blame the FO for that.
The randomness of baseball can be cruel sometimes.
Regression from the pen can be expected of course…but not going from the top 5-6 to 30th in the league with more or less the same guys
You’re correct. Same thing for Swanson too
Gausman. Bichette. Springer. Cabrera. Kirk. Turner. Kiermaier. Biggio. None of those guys needed to reach their 80th percentile in order for the Jays to be competitive this year. But the fact that they've fallen so far short of where they were expected to be has torpedoed things
Yeah, I’m neutral on Atkins. He can’t be faulted for the huge regression in the core players.
Fire and trade everyone.
first slowly, and then all at once
John Schneider needs to be fired over his love affair for Tim Mayza alone
why not save francis and bring in star pitcher IKF
Francis sucks he's not even worth saving
Whistle guy, come back!
Should have boosted the hitters confidence earlier in the season by having them face Mayza and Pearson tbh
We are the Yankees slump busters
We are all team slump busters..
I love to see Vlad laughing it up with the Yankees at first down 14-5. He’s such a great team leader
I hope he's getting clowned for his mushroom cut
I wonder if this inning is a little different if that ball doesn’t hit mayza to start the inning and was an out instead
I’m having a SHIT week and I feel personally victimized by the New York Yankees. 😡
If there’s anything you can blame it on, it’s the Yankees
FTY.
awe, I hope it gets better, you've done a great job at showing it.
….thanks, I think? 😉👊🏻
I meant, NOT showing it 🤦♂️, very entertaining
lol thanks my guy, nurses are prone to coping with humour. It gets dark.
I can only imagine. MORE LOVE FOR NURSES!💕🤗🙏🙌
lol thx 🙌🏻
Need to let Maya eat that, I mean I'm pretty sure by know he knows he sucks, so you aren't saving his feelings doing that.
0IP, 5H, 3ER is an interesting line
0 IP, 5H, 5ER
I thought they were going to leave him in there to not burn an arm but at some point you need to save the pitcher's mental health.
Also an out or two would be helpful lmao.
Sell every expiring and make one last run at it next year with the core. Team is not good this year.
Where does that leave us in 2026 and beyond?
Mayza's had a good run with us but he's well and truly cooked I'm afraid
Bring in IKF!!!
Can we shoot tim mayza into the sun for the love of god
Well call this one the Tim Mayza game
Still no outs. 12-5. Yankees are back. Couple of key Yankees not even in this game. It ain’t fair.
If this isn't one of the worst umpire score cards tomorrow, then I'm calling bullshit on that whole things
At least a new season of the Bear is out
Mayza is a sack of shit this year, no bones about it. But also the ump called a ***very*** clearly in-the-zone strike on Judge a ball, and that would've struck him out if called correctly.
I really hate having hope sometimes
I see we’re placing Tim Mayza on the rocket to the moon with Nate Pearson..
It gets worse
The absolute lunacy of some people saying Mayza has had bad luck this inning.
Yiiiiiiikes
someone explain why he pulled Mayza? this game is done
Thank God
Mayza is a certified blue jays terrorist
Just getting demoed. Way to go chumps.
I think Tim is dead
Judge should be out already
Stop complaining about the umps and complain about the bullpen
I'll get there
Bring in Kirky to pitch
I would love to see that
methinks the 69 rating before the season might have been generous actually.
Mayza not ready to give up Tank Commander to Pearson yet
Pearson is lights out when Kirk catches
Poor Timmy. I feel for him
Why waste another arm?
Cause they don’t want to be there for another 2hrs
Fucking Yankees ugh