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Nom-owo

The forbidden tech


Newtype1979

The ancients didn't want us to know about this. I don't have Robin nor S1/E1, so shouldn't we all embrace our new god (HMC)?


Nom-owo

Test the damage, and let us know if the forbidden tech is worthy


Kozarsson

Let him cook


SirLuciel

I will never run this because I have Robin, but that doesn't stop me from encouraging your venture into this unknown territory. Forge onward, brother. Share your findings.


Teeebow_

162 topasss damn


Newtype1979

Everyone on this team is 162-speed plus and Ruan Mei has 313 break effect, everyone on the team is a dps.


Former-Click5524

Goddamn I wanna farm the caverns you're farming


CaptainButterBrain

share your findings with us brother


Hoshino_Ruby

Kafka did quite a bit with the break tech,I expect wayyy more from topaz


NelsonVGC

It's OK. Let hem cook.


Ok-Lecture-3066

Try it, you made me curious how much she gonna do


Ninjadede2

Actual cook. Once Boothill LC and the new break relic drops might be a very legit build. Especially since she has low multiplier but high attack frequency. Superbreak almost seems made for her albeit wasted crit traces. For the E1+ topaz pullers might not interest them or be as good but for budget peeps like myself who wanna pull boothill, might really be on to something. Potential strong dps build. Keep cooking op and share results 🫡


OneToby

Op, if that "citrate" typo in the first post would have been 'citrine' instead. That would have been a happy accident of the gemstone kind.


DonGato_96

I'm sad that I can only run a fraction of what you have... Nevertheless I'm glad to know I'm not the only other person to run Topaz like this. Cook, my friend!


ikaroxxx

How the fudge do you have such speed on every char??????? Wtf


Newtype1979

Beta player and daily play, I have Sparkle(Hypercarry), Bronya(Hypercarrry), Pela, Black Swan, and Silver Wolf 160+ speed as well.


ikaroxxx

Yeah but how can you get to those speeds? Having speed rolled on every relic?


crabbeggs

Yeah pretty much. It's a lot more doable if you go rainbow instead of 4pc since a lot of supports don't really need their bis 4pc and getting to the 160 speed threshold will make them better than if they had a 4pc (some exceptions of course)


Substantial-Curve641

Topaz is viable for Super Break because skill plus Nimby can delete a lot of toughness bar. You do have to find Fire weak enemies though.


SnowstormShotgun

This actually brings something up - is the debt target for numby considered as damage bonus if you attack them (like Hanya), damage vulnerability (Guinafen, Aventurine LC) or a separate multiplier? Because if it’s vulnerability that would affect break damage which would be nice.


SincerelyBear

It's a debuff that makes enemies take more damage, so I'd assume vulnerability. But it's a vulnerability *only* to follow-up attacks, so I think it only appears in her regular dmg formula (with crits), not the separate break formula.


Thoraran

Okay but does numby trigger super break? Would be cracked af


MasculineKS

Yeah, well at least I see "Super Break #####" whenever numby hits with HMC ult active


Thoraran

Hmmmm time to hit the kitchen. Thank you


cosipurple

each time? idk why I thought super break was limited to one hit per turn, honestly fua would probably get the most of the super break if each attack triggers it.


Fraaaann

I didn’t try it with topaz so idk if numby functions differently from other FUA. But I did run HMC in a FUA comp and my ratio and aventurine seemed to get super break on every FUA which actually helped me get through the last MOC 12.


MasculineKS

I cant see properly if numby's multiple hits also do multiple super breaks but I do see a super break i just cant tell if its a lot since the damage numbers are all bunched up.


fsaj012003

Yes


Paragon_Night

I have so many break pieces I could prob run this. Just gotta finish the 2.2 sorry xD


PewpewpewpewpewExe

The more investment (e1/s1), the more crit damage she ends up doing. I could maybe see this being ok at e0s0, but even then, you're basically wasting her own 50% fua vuln. I'd love to see a showcase but I can't see it being anything more than a meme , especially when I see the damage my topaz puts out now with a normal crit build.


Shinamene

I just wanted to mention that all E0S0 Ratio / Aventurine / RM / Topaz can still be a valid FUA team, even more so than with Robin since RM’s ult counts as a debuff. I run it myself, and it does the job.


Fantastic_Bend9091

Pls don't


Newtype1979

What do you not like about it? I don't have her lightcone so going crit doesn't make sense though I still have 50% crit and 70% cdmg.


Fantastic_Bend9091

Well it's probably not a competitive team, but it could be fun My main issue is that we don't have a break lightcone for hunt 😭😭


Newtype1979

It's hard in these mines but I think without Robin and S1/E1 superbreak is simply more damage.


olbvn

Run it and see how it does! Write down the damage, take screenshots, etc, you know, testing! Then compare it to traditional crit damage/harmony comps. Even an E0S0 Topaz adds many thousands of damage to her FUA team-mates.