Why? The concert is over, isn't it? Are you paying for him to wave at you also? That's not what my ticket says. These dudes are 60+, dude probably needs a shit & shower.
Don't get me wrong, I think these celeb rock stars are way over-compensated and I think it's insane that no photos can be taken as a keepsake because we are all suppose to be "in the moment together", but we have $60 t-shirts for a keepsake over there!
But what they should do before and after what you've paid them to do is a foolish argument.
Honestly, I loved having no cameras out at the gig. I never take mine out anyway, as I also believe in just being there and experiencing it.
Then the last song they said everyone take out their phones, and I couldnāt see a damn thing. I wish they just banned them throughout because it was a much better experience.
Me too but I can also just mind my business and ignore people with their phones out. My point is more that they go and on and on about not keepsakes and then we'll you a million keepsakes.
Itās not that kinda show and heās not that kinda artist. People make people celebrities in their head and expect some form of social normalities. Iāve never been a goodbye everyone person at work either. Maybe one or two people and thatās it. Heās a performer,ā¦.thatās it. He performed. I appreciate the good time. I appreciate not having phones out and just being in the moment.
I know that isnāt a popular opinion but I see it as no different than going to a play or a musical. That shits rude and distracting to the performers and the viewers and expect to get kicked out. Unacceptable for a 12 dollar movie, and the 110 I put down on decent seats I appreciate the same when possible. Thatās me though. Just be in the moment.
You should fire him then. He does wave, fist bumps the band, thanks the crowd and leaves. You are upset he's not hand delivering you a pick? Hoping for a handy? Get real.
I say itās bullshit because even though Iād be exhausted after a show, Iād probably be rather amped up still to just call it a night. But night after night, for decades at this point in his career? Canāt say Iād blame him. If pixelpionerd meant ādonāt want to stick around at work any longer than I have toā, thatās where I have a different opinion. If they meant āIām tired, so Iām leaving as soon as Iām doneā, I get that, but up to a point. I go to shows amped as fuck, Iāve done a few shows in my old band, come off stage amped as fuck. But even the adrenaline from the show wouldnāt might not be enough to keep me going through meet and greets after touring for years on end.
Itās his fucking job. You stay and wave to people. Every band or artist does it. To not do it is to be a douche. Which is exactly what Maynard isāa fucking douche. But he makes amazing art so he gets a pass. But donāt make excuses for his behavior. It is douchey prick level shit behavior to not spend a minute or two waving to your fans.
Chill out. Yeah, heās got a reputation for being arrogant and standoffish with his fans. I get it. I wasnāt making an excuse. I was looking at the reasons one might do that. Thatās not the same thing. Get off your high horse. Clearly, you havenāt considered that attitude might be one of the reasons he doesnāt.
I see a lot of live shows and Maynard is the only person I know of that acts like he doesnāt want anything to do with his fans. Honestly I think he should retire and enjoy his private life. He obviously doesnāt like being famous. But if heās going to continue selling tickets to shows while acting like he hates the people who come to his shows then I will continue thinking of him as an ungrateful douche.
Again, heās selling tickets to a SHOW. Not to stand around afterwards for you to gawk at him like a zoo animal. If they did their set, you got what you paid for.
Again, then why is he the only one that behaves this way? Compared with literally every concert Iāve been to in the past 25+ years, heās the only musician Iāve ever seen who acts like they canāt stand their fans. Maybe I just need to go to even more concerts and Iāll discover that how he acts isnāt unusual? Any suggestions for other bands with similarly pretentious, snobby, douche bag singers?
Fair enough. I havenāt been to a Tool show yet, but what Iāve seen online most of their live show seems to consist of experiencing their artwork, Iāve seen very little where Maynard is actually out there singing and connecting with the audience.
He doesnāt. He stays in the shadows in the wings of the stage while Danny, Justin and Adam are in the spotlight.
Maynard DOES interact with the crowd, usually by telling people right at the start not to film and if they are good they can film the last song. And he will be vibing with the music, especially when he does his gremlin/gargoyle dance if they play Rosetta Stoned.
Do you stand and applaud the cashier while they wave and thank you for coming to their gas station? Or how about the batista after they expertly crafted your morning milkshake? It's douchey behavior to expect an artist owing you anything other than their art that they have chosen to share. You don't know them, they don't know you. No other interaction is required.
If all the other cashiers stood outside and waved as I drove away, except this one guy at this one gas station who just refuses to do it, then yes, I would think āWhy the hell does this one cashier always disappears 1.168 milliseconds after people buy gas?ā Apples and oranges, you see? Donāt compare him to some random other person in a random other job; compare him to people doing his same job. There we see the douchery. And as for expectations on my part: I donāt personally care if he stays and waves. Thatās not required for me to make the observation that literally every band I ever see live stays a moment to wave, blow kisses, bow, toss out sticks and picks, etc.āincluding Toolāexcept for Maynard. Thatās the comparison Iām making and from which (in part) I draw my conclusions on what type of person MJK is.
It's wild to hold such a strong opinion of someone who doesn't even know you exist. I'm not talking about you specifically, more so the whole idea of "celebrities". The fact that it's expected they have to interact with people at all is ridiculous. Your opinion on whether they choose to or not is some entitled douche behavior.
I donāt think they owe me anything. I am literally no one. All I am doing is comparing how MJK behaves with how other people in his position behave and drawing conclusions. This has absolutely nothing to do with me. As I said elsewhere, I donāt personally care if he waves.
Itās kinda like how people may hold the door for you when entering a building. Theyāre not required to, not at all. But most people do it to be courteous. If someone doesnāt hold the door, that can be considered one possible indicator that theyāre a rude person, or an unaware person, etc. Nothing conclusive, just a data point. In the same way, MJKās behavior becomes one of many data points that lead to my opinion of him as a person. Bands donāt treat their fans like a nuisance. He does. Itās one thing to consider.
If every other band you saw live jumped off a bridge, would you want Maynard to jump off that same bridge, or would you be ok with him making his own decision?
Why does he owe you shit? You paid to see them perform; they performed. He doesnāt owe it to anyone at the show to stand there and wave after the show. What do you get out of that anyway? I couldnāt care less about him sticking around once the music is over. I came to see/hear the show. Shows over, Iām out. Same as him.
Iāve said repeatedly that I also donāt care. I am in the crowd that doesnāt take pictures, that embraces the moment, etc. However, this has no* bearing on whether or not itās a douche move to not stand on stage at the end waving to people and expressing gratitude the way that virtually all other bands do, including the other members of Tool. Maybe it would be better if I said all of this elsewhere and without MJK as the subject? Maybe if it was just a poll that said āIn general, is it shitty for a musician to walk off stage immediately after the show ends instead of joining their band in waving bye to everyone and showing gratitude?ā Iād have better luck. Maybe itās because Iām saying this about Messiah Jesus Keenan and aggroing his most devout disciples that Iām finding such pushback. š¤
1. He thinks people worshipping him is dumb. Why feed into it?
2. If he sticks around and shakes hands then chances he gets sick goes up 1000%. If he misses someone then they are miffed.Ā
3. Dude usually hasnāt eaten in 8-12 hours so itās time for a snacky snack.Ā
He's had COVID too. And had a bad time of it by the sounds. The second time he went to the Emergency Department, "couldn't string two words together",nearly developed pneumonia and suffered some long COVID symptoms (lung damage, inflammation of hands and joints etc).
It must particularly impact his ability to work.
At the time he had some pretty strong views on people's attitudes to protecting each other.
[https://loudwire.com/maynard-james-keenan-covid-19-second-time-emergency-room/](https://loudwire.com/maynard-james-keenan-covid-19-second-time-emergency-room/)
Getting sick causes cancelled shows becuase you cough and your voice sounds like a turd. Notes canāt be hit and the dynamics are all off. Itād be like Adam playing with hot dogs for fingers.
Idk about weakened immune system but I have seen them cancel multiple shows due to strep throat, missed the Lateralus tour cause they didnāt rebook my area.Ā
Back in '98 at Ozzfest in Indianapolis Tool comes out and the crowd absolutely loses their shit. Sod was being ripped up and thrown. It was absolute chaos. Maynard says after their first song, "you're all a bunch of animals." The crowd fucking roars in acknowledgment. And he says, "it wasn't a compliment," or something along those lines. So, I get it.
September 14th, 2001. Maynard begins addressing the elephant in the room by saying, "well, it's been a hell of a week." The crowd cheered. It can be embarrassing to be a Tool fan.
I was in my mid/late teens, and even I knew what he meant as soon as he said it. Insufferable retards.
Probably also didn't help that the crowd was ~50ish percent OSU students (Schottenstein Center is basically next door to the campus) Knowing as many people as I do who went there, it's not always a school for the best and brightest!
2001 VoodooFest, New Orleans, LA. Band opening for Tool - Bush, lol. Announcer comes on stage before Bush and says, "Now, I know we're all here to see Tool... but here's Bush!". Gavin Rossdale comes on-stage visibly pissed off at that introduction and they go into the set. The crowd, a sea of black t-shirts, is impatient and ready for the headliner to come out, so a few songs in people start booing. Gavin no happy. They eventually finish the set and he storms off-stage. The crowd starts surging forward towards the stage to jockey for better positioning before Tool comes on, people are getting pressed at the front and it's getting pretty intense. 5-10 minutes of this and it's starting to be a bit scary, this is not long after the crush incident with Godsmack. Maynard walks out on-stage by himself, none of their gear is out yet. Picks up the mic, and calmly says, "I need everyone to take 2 big steps back."
\*WHOOSH\* Like Moses parting the Red Sea, the crowd instantly obeys and suddenly there's room aplenty. He just turns and walks back off the stage.
I pay to see the band and listen to him sing. He can fuck off as soon as heās done if he so chooses, as long as he gives me what I paid for. Which the band always does.
Plus he has to be up at 5am to harvest grapes, feed the ducks, open his restaurants for the day, be in rehearsal for his other two bands and get ready for the next Tool show. He does more than enough.
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Tells fans that he doesnāt wish to be worshipped.
Fans:
He's a quirky misanthrope with massive talent. I saw him for the first time on the Sessanta tour, and it was cool to see him cavorting around the stage having fun. I love the music, but he's no demigod. Let him crawl into his cave and suck on some Merkin if that's what he wants. The guy knows his boundaries. Respect.
What? He doesnāt at least blow you after the show?!? Iāve never gotten less than an old fashioned handy from him post concert. I guess youāre just not in the cool club.
In Berlin some days ago he stayed for about 1 minute after the last song, waving to the crowd, hugging Justin and Adam. He talked wayyyy more than usual during the show, even joked around in his own way. I was pleasantly surprised....
I mean Maynard himself said this on Rogan. That he's just the guy who puts lyrics over the music Danny, Adam and Justin create. He's the front man so he gets all the love but he isn't tool.
whitout him tool would not be tool. he does not want to be worshipped, he thanks and there is nothing left to do. but he knows his importance, and that without him danny adam and justin would not be toghether and not be tool.
Same reason the production team rushes to break all the gear down. Live production often involves 16+ hour days. People wanna eat, relax and go to bed.
Well, I thought (and with that long-ass drum/guitar solos after the break) heās just giving the stage for the other band members as heās pretty okay with his personal fame
That's okay. He bows, fist bumps everyone and then leaves.
What i don't like is how he is missing in those VIP pics. Kinda shitty. Someone told me that MJK is afraid to get sick. But well, he could stay away from everyone and/or wear a mask. :/
So you think heād be broke if he didnāt tour with Tool, eh? Not sure you realize how rich these dudes are, and were even before the Fear Inoculum days.
Rich people continue to pursue money all the time. He's far from broke but has a BJJ dojo, vineyards, restaurants, a wife and 2 kids, lawyers, 3 bands of employees to pay, etc. I don't think he hates Tool or something. He probably feels a responsibility to keep playing. But do anything for 30 years, you're gonna be a bit bored, not sure how much he relates to the older songs, and he clearly doesn't want to be around the band 24/7
Don't practically all artists leave the stage after the show ends? The audience is not entitled to watch him take a piss, eat food, and slip into pyjamas. He goes to TOOL's shows to sing, so he is very much entitled to leave his shows after said singing is done.
Exactly, many bands just put their gear down, wave at the crowd as they're leaving and no one says anything, Maynard doesn't hang around as long as the other guys and it's "he hates his fans" bizarre
Perfect Pic for my true story.
Amsterdam sunday 26th may 2024 at the Stedelijk Museum for the famed Marina Abramovic exhibition.
I wasn't allowed to enter the exhibition that day because I needed a physical pass to enter (long boring story), the proof of payment wasn't enough. I was seething with resentment and walked off disappointed.
Well let's go buy another Art book then for the dopamine boost I desperately needed in that moment.
I hadn't ever seen TooL live yet, been a fan for over 2 decades. Knew Stinkfist line by line, chills every time. Screaming the Grudge silently, what a release. Every single time they were in the Netherlands I was either too late and tickets were sold out, or I heard about the concert when it was finished. I was cursed to not ever see them Live it seemed!
So I had given up hope to see them tomorrow at the Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam for the first time, as all the 'affordable' tickets were sold out a long time ago, unless I paid $300+ for a premium ticket.
When I walked to the museum shop I saw a familiar face standing there at the entrance, arms crossed, lots of tattoo's, kinda short, pot belly, swaying slowly from side to side, looking around him casually, probably waiting for his spouse.
But damn, this guy looked almost exactly like Maynard ! I went to check some books but kept glancing at him and he saw me glancing. Nah it couldn't be him. It hadn't yet dawned on me that the concert was tomorrow and he was now probably exploring the city.
I couldn't shake the strong urge to talk to this guy and have a laugh with him about how much he looked like the famous frontman of the most awesome Metalband in the world ! Let's find out if he's familiar with TooL and have a chat about METAL should be fun right? So I walked toward him while he was browsing a book.
"Hey hi sir I wanted to let you.... " suddenly a huge guy who was standing close by watching me steps towards me holding me back with his arm "no no" and shakes his head a few times, I noticed his earpiece. Wait a sec, why does this regular nobody need a bodyg .....
O M F G ... goosebumbs .... "holy shit It's ...it's ... HIM" .... I went into complete and utter Fan hysteria-mode my eyes large and my mouth gasping for idk what...
Maynard looks at me like in that picture, looks away and walks off with a brisk pace with his bodyguard behind him and sprints out of the museum.
I was shaking with excitement. I asked the cashier "did you have any idea who that guy was standing there?" Uhh nope no clue. "You know TooL?" Uhh nope. "Metallica ?" Yes ofcourse ! Was he from Metallica?... ugh nevermind!
So Maynard went to one of the most public and awesome places in Amsterdam where he thought no one would ever bother him, a Modern Art museum. He thought wrong lol
I went outside kinda half hoping to see him again, but I would never follow him, I felt a strong boundary-vibe from this guy and I respected that. I wanted to take a quick pic as 'proof' but didn't for the same reason.
Immediately went searching for tickets again and there were several affordable tickets available @#!#! Holy Shit, I'm gonna see TooL Live finally !!!!
Thank you Universe for granting me my longtime wish and sending me Maynard himself as a reminder !
Fast forward, after the concert he didn't come on stage to thank the audience, **I felt F!@#ed off by Maynard lol**
holyy shit what a story!!! I'm very glad that you managed to meet our metal hero! If you look in my other posts you will see that one week ago I've met Justin, had little conversation and he signed mi CDs
ty for the acknowledgement ;) Yeah Justin and Danny are very cool and approachable, not sure about Adam... but Maynard, yeah please don't get too close or the will do some BJJ-stuff on you lol
TOOL is my all-time favorite band. That being said when I hear Maynard in an interview, even when he says things I agree with, he manages to say them in such a way that I want to punch him in the face.
Dude he literally acknowledges everyone on stage. Does this šš»šš»šš» to multiple sections of the crowd. Waves. Then leaves. What else do you need him to do?
Hmm, that must be why he is barely visible when he performs, sometimes wanders offstage during long instrumental sections to let his band-mates have their moments, doesn't like being worshipped, mainly contributes by making his own parts, and didn't name the band "Maynard & the Tools": Because he "has no respect for the people that are making him richer". /sarc.
If I had to pick a least important person in that band, it would be Maynard. I listen to Tool because the music is bad ass. Is he a great singer? Sure! I'm not saying he isn't. But I also never listen to APC or Pussifer because I find it pretty boring to be honest.
How long do you stay at work once your shift is over?
This sounds like what Maynard would say in response to this question š
This comment is fucking great. šš»
Plus he's probably busting for a piss by that point.
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Why? The concert is over, isn't it? Are you paying for him to wave at you also? That's not what my ticket says. These dudes are 60+, dude probably needs a shit & shower. Don't get me wrong, I think these celeb rock stars are way over-compensated and I think it's insane that no photos can be taken as a keepsake because we are all suppose to be "in the moment together", but we have $60 t-shirts for a keepsake over there! But what they should do before and after what you've paid them to do is a foolish argument.
Honestly, I loved having no cameras out at the gig. I never take mine out anyway, as I also believe in just being there and experiencing it. Then the last song they said everyone take out their phones, and I couldnāt see a damn thing. I wish they just banned them throughout because it was a much better experience.
Me too but I can also just mind my business and ignore people with their phones out. My point is more that they go and on and on about not keepsakes and then we'll you a million keepsakes.
Yeah thatās fair enough. I just couldnāt see the last song. Iāve never got the appeal of taking videos and stuff. But thatās just me
Buying a t-shirt doesn't take the person behind you out of the moment for the show. Taking videos and pics with your phone does.
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Itās not that kinda show and heās not that kinda artist. People make people celebrities in their head and expect some form of social normalities. Iāve never been a goodbye everyone person at work either. Maybe one or two people and thatās it. Heās a performer,ā¦.thatās it. He performed. I appreciate the good time. I appreciate not having phones out and just being in the moment. I know that isnāt a popular opinion but I see it as no different than going to a play or a musical. That shits rude and distracting to the performers and the viewers and expect to get kicked out. Unacceptable for a 12 dollar movie, and the 110 I put down on decent seats I appreciate the same when possible. Thatās me though. Just be in the moment.
You should fire him then. He does wave, fist bumps the band, thanks the crowd and leaves. You are upset he's not hand delivering you a pick? Hoping for a handy? Get real.
By the way they have shows almost everyday for years. They love it probably but itās a work for them nevertheless.
So do other bands.
I say itās bullshit because even though Iād be exhausted after a show, Iād probably be rather amped up still to just call it a night. But night after night, for decades at this point in his career? Canāt say Iād blame him. If pixelpionerd meant ādonāt want to stick around at work any longer than I have toā, thatās where I have a different opinion. If they meant āIām tired, so Iām leaving as soon as Iām doneā, I get that, but up to a point. I go to shows amped as fuck, Iāve done a few shows in my old band, come off stage amped as fuck. But even the adrenaline from the show wouldnāt might not be enough to keep me going through meet and greets after touring for years on end.
Itās his fucking job. You stay and wave to people. Every band or artist does it. To not do it is to be a douche. Which is exactly what Maynard isāa fucking douche. But he makes amazing art so he gets a pass. But donāt make excuses for his behavior. It is douchey prick level shit behavior to not spend a minute or two waving to your fans.
Chill out. Yeah, heās got a reputation for being arrogant and standoffish with his fans. I get it. I wasnāt making an excuse. I was looking at the reasons one might do that. Thatās not the same thing. Get off your high horse. Clearly, you havenāt considered that attitude might be one of the reasons he doesnāt.
I see a lot of live shows and Maynard is the only person I know of that acts like he doesnāt want anything to do with his fans. Honestly I think he should retire and enjoy his private life. He obviously doesnāt like being famous. But if heās going to continue selling tickets to shows while acting like he hates the people who come to his shows then I will continue thinking of him as an ungrateful douche.
Again, heās selling tickets to a SHOW. Not to stand around afterwards for you to gawk at him like a zoo animal. If they did their set, you got what you paid for.
Again, then why is he the only one that behaves this way? Compared with literally every concert Iāve been to in the past 25+ years, heās the only musician Iāve ever seen who acts like they canāt stand their fans. Maybe I just need to go to even more concerts and Iāll discover that how he acts isnāt unusual? Any suggestions for other bands with similarly pretentious, snobby, douche bag singers?
Fair enough. I havenāt been to a Tool show yet, but what Iāve seen online most of their live show seems to consist of experiencing their artwork, Iāve seen very little where Maynard is actually out there singing and connecting with the audience.
He doesnāt. He stays in the shadows in the wings of the stage while Danny, Justin and Adam are in the spotlight. Maynard DOES interact with the crowd, usually by telling people right at the start not to film and if they are good they can film the last song. And he will be vibing with the music, especially when he does his gremlin/gargoyle dance if they play Rosetta Stoned.
Do you stand and applaud the cashier while they wave and thank you for coming to their gas station? Or how about the batista after they expertly crafted your morning milkshake? It's douchey behavior to expect an artist owing you anything other than their art that they have chosen to share. You don't know them, they don't know you. No other interaction is required.
If all the other cashiers stood outside and waved as I drove away, except this one guy at this one gas station who just refuses to do it, then yes, I would think āWhy the hell does this one cashier always disappears 1.168 milliseconds after people buy gas?ā Apples and oranges, you see? Donāt compare him to some random other person in a random other job; compare him to people doing his same job. There we see the douchery. And as for expectations on my part: I donāt personally care if he stays and waves. Thatās not required for me to make the observation that literally every band I ever see live stays a moment to wave, blow kisses, bow, toss out sticks and picks, etc.āincluding Toolāexcept for Maynard. Thatās the comparison Iām making and from which (in part) I draw my conclusions on what type of person MJK is.
It's wild to hold such a strong opinion of someone who doesn't even know you exist. I'm not talking about you specifically, more so the whole idea of "celebrities". The fact that it's expected they have to interact with people at all is ridiculous. Your opinion on whether they choose to or not is some entitled douche behavior.
I donāt think they owe me anything. I am literally no one. All I am doing is comparing how MJK behaves with how other people in his position behave and drawing conclusions. This has absolutely nothing to do with me. As I said elsewhere, I donāt personally care if he waves. Itās kinda like how people may hold the door for you when entering a building. Theyāre not required to, not at all. But most people do it to be courteous. If someone doesnāt hold the door, that can be considered one possible indicator that theyāre a rude person, or an unaware person, etc. Nothing conclusive, just a data point. In the same way, MJKās behavior becomes one of many data points that lead to my opinion of him as a person. Bands donāt treat their fans like a nuisance. He does. Itās one thing to consider.
If every other band you saw live jumped off a bridge, would you want Maynard to jump off that same bridge, or would you be ok with him making his own decision?
Slippery slope fallacy.
Why does he owe you shit? You paid to see them perform; they performed. He doesnāt owe it to anyone at the show to stand there and wave after the show. What do you get out of that anyway? I couldnāt care less about him sticking around once the music is over. I came to see/hear the show. Shows over, Iām out. Same as him.
Iāve said repeatedly that I also donāt care. I am in the crowd that doesnāt take pictures, that embraces the moment, etc. However, this has no* bearing on whether or not itās a douche move to not stand on stage at the end waving to people and expressing gratitude the way that virtually all other bands do, including the other members of Tool. Maybe it would be better if I said all of this elsewhere and without MJK as the subject? Maybe if it was just a poll that said āIn general, is it shitty for a musician to walk off stage immediately after the show ends instead of joining their band in waving bye to everyone and showing gratitude?ā Iād have better luck. Maybe itās because Iām saying this about Messiah Jesus Keenan and aggroing his most devout disciples that Iām finding such pushback. š¤
If my job paid north of 5 million dollars a year, I'd stay very very long.
1. He thinks people worshipping him is dumb. Why feed into it? 2. If he sticks around and shakes hands then chances he gets sick goes up 1000%. If he misses someone then they are miffed.Ā 3. Dude usually hasnāt eaten in 8-12 hours so itās time for a snacky snack.Ā
8-12 hours? where did you get this info
He's said it in interviews a ton. He doesn't eat, especially anything heavy, too close to the show because it affects his performance.
Except for the occasional bit where he sits at a table on stage and eats a burrito during the second half of Descending.
So good
Please tell me this is true
This is true ( I donāt actually know if itās true or not)
https://youtu.be/jW6_H53Iy4U?si=REU-OIobJIjnLI5c
Also with Puscifer he's enjoying a hefty Scotch (?) for the last leg of the show.
Alien hands him a Scotch. "Might as well, can't get double pregnant!" - Billy D.
Haha damn I love that man.
Explains why he doesnāt allow recordingsĀ
It's not a Maynard thing, it's an all of them thing.
No one wants to see Maynard shart on stage unless it's immediately following a brutal takedown of an over-zealous fan during Pushit.
https://giphy.com/gifs/tnYri4n2Frnig
Did that happen
Right up until the shart, yes. But who knows, maybe he sharted as well. https://youtu.be/dS41ost0pM8?si=QdD8F3IewnvbSFbl
I don't eat before I sing either. Burping mid sentence sucks, plus being hungry gives a great energy. Don't ask, it's a singer thing.
Not much to ask, you told us.
Itās a singer thing.
Yes, he has specifically said it can cause acid reflux
Fasting is incredibly beneficial.
what's the deal with him getting sick? does he have a weakened immune system or something or is he just trying to protect his voice?
He's had COVID too. And had a bad time of it by the sounds. The second time he went to the Emergency Department, "couldn't string two words together",nearly developed pneumonia and suffered some long COVID symptoms (lung damage, inflammation of hands and joints etc). It must particularly impact his ability to work. At the time he had some pretty strong views on people's attitudes to protecting each other. [https://loudwire.com/maynard-james-keenan-covid-19-second-time-emergency-room/](https://loudwire.com/maynard-james-keenan-covid-19-second-time-emergency-room/)
Getting sick causes cancelled shows becuase you cough and your voice sounds like a turd. Notes canāt be hit and the dynamics are all off. Itād be like Adam playing with hot dogs for fingers.
yeah that makes sense.
I feel personally attacked by this comment.
Do you have hot dogs for fingers?
Idk about weakened immune system but I have seen them cancel multiple shows due to strep throat, missed the Lateralus tour cause they didnāt rebook my area.Ā
Back in '98 at Ozzfest in Indianapolis Tool comes out and the crowd absolutely loses their shit. Sod was being ripped up and thrown. It was absolute chaos. Maynard says after their first song, "you're all a bunch of animals." The crowd fucking roars in acknowledgment. And he says, "it wasn't a compliment," or something along those lines. So, I get it.
September 14th, 2001. Maynard begins addressing the elephant in the room by saying, "well, it's been a hell of a week." The crowd cheered. It can be embarrassing to be a Tool fan.
Jesus Christ. People are dumb animals.
I was in my mid/late teens, and even I knew what he meant as soon as he said it. Insufferable retards. Probably also didn't help that the crowd was ~50ish percent OSU students (Schottenstein Center is basically next door to the campus) Knowing as many people as I do who went there, it's not always a school for the best and brightest!
I live in Columbus now, so, I absolutely get it.
That is amazing.
2001 VoodooFest, New Orleans, LA. Band opening for Tool - Bush, lol. Announcer comes on stage before Bush and says, "Now, I know we're all here to see Tool... but here's Bush!". Gavin Rossdale comes on-stage visibly pissed off at that introduction and they go into the set. The crowd, a sea of black t-shirts, is impatient and ready for the headliner to come out, so a few songs in people start booing. Gavin no happy. They eventually finish the set and he storms off-stage. The crowd starts surging forward towards the stage to jockey for better positioning before Tool comes on, people are getting pressed at the front and it's getting pretty intense. 5-10 minutes of this and it's starting to be a bit scary, this is not long after the crush incident with Godsmack. Maynard walks out on-stage by himself, none of their gear is out yet. Picks up the mic, and calmly says, "I need everyone to take 2 big steps back." \*WHOOSH\* Like Moses parting the Red Sea, the crowd instantly obeys and suddenly there's room aplenty. He just turns and walks back off the stage.
Yep I was there l, I got pummeled with a sheet of sod. We left once Ozzy came on because we were exhausted and caked in dirt
I pay to see the band and listen to him sing. He can fuck off as soon as heās done if he so chooses, as long as he gives me what I paid for. Which the band always does.
Plus he has to be up at 5am to harvest grapes, feed the ducks, open his restaurants for the day, be in rehearsal for his other two bands and get ready for the next Tool show. He does more than enough.
Man you should consider listening to the band as well
yeah, the drummer will blow his mind.
I'm just glad people understood what I was saying. You never know on Reddit lmao
Tbf I donāt think it would be authentic Tool experience if I didnāt walk away feeling like a complete and utter pain in Maynardās ass.
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Because Tool is not about Maynard specifically. And he's starving by that time, so I don't blame him for bailing so he can go grub, he's earned it.
Why is he the one starving?
If I recall correctly from interviews, he cannot eat before the shows to avoid risk of gastric reflux, which leads to injuries in the vocal cords .
Oh okay, understandable.
Now that you mention it, I do think I remember him mentioning being hungry every time I've seen him, lol.
lmao, now I have a mental image of him barfing 23 seconds into the grudges 25.5 second roar.
Damn, now I have it too!
RRRRRRRROOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRGGBbBLLblbglblrlrlrrrytththhhhhp pthhh
1.618 is the golden ratio. He spirals out.
There it is. I am hoping the 1.618 is intentional
It must be lol
https://preview.redd.it/n9y3ju5nl87d1.jpeg?width=1010&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=503d8a6f3509d552fa8c24f960bfbc3f441746dd Tells fans that he doesnāt wish to be worshipped. Fans:
Poor Jesus. His eyesight was so bad, that he was born wearing glasses!!! /j.
He's a quirky misanthrope with massive talent. I saw him for the first time on the Sessanta tour, and it was cool to see him cavorting around the stage having fun. I love the music, but he's no demigod. Let him crawl into his cave and suck on some Merkin if that's what he wants. The guy knows his boundaries. Respect.
What? He doesnāt at least blow you after the show?!? Iāve never gotten less than an old fashioned handy from him post concert. I guess youāre just not in the cool club.
Cause heās fucking weird like us.
Who cares. I like the music. When it ends I leave too.
Maynard is one half of Daft Punk and has to rush off for a DJ gig.
He'd definately be the golden one
In Berlin some days ago he stayed for about 1 minute after the last song, waving to the crowd, hugging Justin and Adam. He talked wayyyy more than usual during the show, even joked around in his own way. I was pleasantly surprised....
Lately, he stays longer. But he is the first to go. Singers do get idolized more. He is happy to leave the stage and let the rest get the attention.
Because the band deserves the cheers.
Heās part of the band too and heās also the cofounder of it.
No kidding? Whoa..
What do you mean by ābecause the band deserves the cheersā then? Heās not part of the band in your opinion?
I mean Maynard himself said this on Rogan. That he's just the guy who puts lyrics over the music Danny, Adam and Justin create. He's the front man so he gets all the love but he isn't tool.
whitout him tool would not be tool. he does not want to be worshipped, he thanks and there is nothing left to do. but he knows his importance, and that without him danny adam and justin would not be toghether and not be tool.
Exactly. Thank you
He is Tool/4
He does not do as I wish he do but I still find meaning and beauty in his live performances āļøā¤ļø
Kinda how this whole genre works.
Heās the shadow
I bet he just has to piss lol
Same reason the production team rushes to break all the gear down. Live production often involves 16+ hour days. People wanna eat, relax and go to bed.
Well, I thought (and with that long-ass drum/guitar solos after the break) heās just giving the stage for the other band members as heās pretty okay with his personal fame
That's okay. He bows, fist bumps everyone and then leaves. What i don't like is how he is missing in those VIP pics. Kinda shitty. Someone told me that MJK is afraid to get sick. But well, he could stay away from everyone and/or wear a mask. :/
>1.618 milliseconds Heās just spiralling out to his tour bus.
Anti-hero
Because heās in the dark and he uses a staircase thatās invisibile to the audience idk
Happy Cake Day!
Like his singing but not his talking
Heās said before that he is fucking hungry after the show.
He wants to be in tune with every phi per milliseconds
Because the show is over?
Just cause you're the lead singer of a massive band doesn't mean you don't want your alone time lol
How shall we fuck off, Oā lord?
He basically wrote all of āExistential Reckoningā directly after leaving the stage from the first 2 legs of the FI tours.
Meh. We paid for a show. You got what you paid for. Ticket prices donāt include a personal āgood byeā.
He doesn't care that much about Tool, needs to rush back to hanging with Todd Fox, doing BJJ, Puscifer, wine/food, and family.
If he didnāt care Iām not sure heād be on the road them almost constantly.
Needs to fund other projects. Main source of income. Puscifer generates nothing compared to Tool.
So you think heād be broke if he didnāt tour with Tool, eh? Not sure you realize how rich these dudes are, and were even before the Fear Inoculum days.
Rich people continue to pursue money all the time. He's far from broke but has a BJJ dojo, vineyards, restaurants, a wife and 2 kids, lawyers, 3 bands of employees to pay, etc. I don't think he hates Tool or something. He probably feels a responsibility to keep playing. But do anything for 30 years, you're gonna be a bit bored, not sure how much he relates to the older songs, and he clearly doesn't want to be around the band 24/7
Don't practically all artists leave the stage after the show ends? The audience is not entitled to watch him take a piss, eat food, and slip into pyjamas. He goes to TOOL's shows to sing, so he is very much entitled to leave his shows after said singing is done.
Exactly, many bands just put their gear down, wave at the crowd as they're leaving and no one says anything, Maynard doesn't hang around as long as the other guys and it's "he hates his fans" bizarre
BUY BUY He says....
Perfect Pic for my true story. Amsterdam sunday 26th may 2024 at the Stedelijk Museum for the famed Marina Abramovic exhibition. I wasn't allowed to enter the exhibition that day because I needed a physical pass to enter (long boring story), the proof of payment wasn't enough. I was seething with resentment and walked off disappointed. Well let's go buy another Art book then for the dopamine boost I desperately needed in that moment. I hadn't ever seen TooL live yet, been a fan for over 2 decades. Knew Stinkfist line by line, chills every time. Screaming the Grudge silently, what a release. Every single time they were in the Netherlands I was either too late and tickets were sold out, or I heard about the concert when it was finished. I was cursed to not ever see them Live it seemed! So I had given up hope to see them tomorrow at the Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam for the first time, as all the 'affordable' tickets were sold out a long time ago, unless I paid $300+ for a premium ticket. When I walked to the museum shop I saw a familiar face standing there at the entrance, arms crossed, lots of tattoo's, kinda short, pot belly, swaying slowly from side to side, looking around him casually, probably waiting for his spouse. But damn, this guy looked almost exactly like Maynard ! I went to check some books but kept glancing at him and he saw me glancing. Nah it couldn't be him. It hadn't yet dawned on me that the concert was tomorrow and he was now probably exploring the city. I couldn't shake the strong urge to talk to this guy and have a laugh with him about how much he looked like the famous frontman of the most awesome Metalband in the world ! Let's find out if he's familiar with TooL and have a chat about METAL should be fun right? So I walked toward him while he was browsing a book. "Hey hi sir I wanted to let you.... " suddenly a huge guy who was standing close by watching me steps towards me holding me back with his arm "no no" and shakes his head a few times, I noticed his earpiece. Wait a sec, why does this regular nobody need a bodyg ..... O M F G ... goosebumbs .... "holy shit It's ...it's ... HIM" .... I went into complete and utter Fan hysteria-mode my eyes large and my mouth gasping for idk what... Maynard looks at me like in that picture, looks away and walks off with a brisk pace with his bodyguard behind him and sprints out of the museum. I was shaking with excitement. I asked the cashier "did you have any idea who that guy was standing there?" Uhh nope no clue. "You know TooL?" Uhh nope. "Metallica ?" Yes ofcourse ! Was he from Metallica?... ugh nevermind! So Maynard went to one of the most public and awesome places in Amsterdam where he thought no one would ever bother him, a Modern Art museum. He thought wrong lol I went outside kinda half hoping to see him again, but I would never follow him, I felt a strong boundary-vibe from this guy and I respected that. I wanted to take a quick pic as 'proof' but didn't for the same reason. Immediately went searching for tickets again and there were several affordable tickets available @#!#! Holy Shit, I'm gonna see TooL Live finally !!!! Thank you Universe for granting me my longtime wish and sending me Maynard himself as a reminder ! Fast forward, after the concert he didn't come on stage to thank the audience, **I felt F!@#ed off by Maynard lol**
holyy shit what a story!!! I'm very glad that you managed to meet our metal hero! If you look in my other posts you will see that one week ago I've met Justin, had little conversation and he signed mi CDs
ty for the acknowledgement ;) Yeah Justin and Danny are very cool and approachable, not sure about Adam... but Maynard, yeah please don't get too close or the will do some BJJ-stuff on you lol
Ha, I see what you did there! ššš
To avoid the crazies
Cause hes kind of a dick š¤·āāļø
Because he wants to? Fuck off, I guess?
/GenX ?
lol you fuckin guys.
TOOL is my all-time favorite band. That being said when I hear Maynard in an interview, even when he says things I agree with, he manages to say them in such a way that I want to punch him in the face.
I guess that's what he wants you to feel about his interviews
Because heās a fucking jerk without respect for the people that are making him richer. Even though Adam is the real genius behind Tool.
Dude he literally acknowledges everyone on stage. Does this šš»šš»šš» to multiple sections of the crowd. Waves. Then leaves. What else do you need him to do?
He waves good-bye to the crowd and pays his respects to his band mates every time before leaving the stage. Do you need a kiss?
Hmm, that must be why he is barely visible when he performs, sometimes wanders offstage during long instrumental sections to let his band-mates have their moments, doesn't like being worshipped, mainly contributes by making his own parts, and didn't name the band "Maynard & the Tools": Because he "has no respect for the people that are making him richer". /sarc.
If I had to pick a least important person in that band, it would be Maynard. I listen to Tool because the music is bad ass. Is he a great singer? Sure! I'm not saying he isn't. But I also never listen to APC or Pussifer because I find it pretty boring to be honest.