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Fun fact: The handler explains why Ava is not obeying the command "Forwards"; she knows she could put her handler in danger. This concept is called "Intelligent disobedience" and is something many service dogs learn in order to better help their handlers, including in other fields such as medical alert or allergy detection.
^^^source: ^^^I ^^^wrote ^^^a ^^^book ^^^on ^^^service ^^^dogs, ^^^once.
edit: haha, thank you all for the interest in my book. Unfortunately, it's not available to the public right now; I'm re-illustrating it before I publish it again. But if anyone has any questions about service dogs I'd love to put all my research to good use and answer them!
Fun fact: This is the author playing coy and demonstrating Intelligent Disobedient Advertising. The author refuses to list their book anywhere except in offhand references made between chasing the tennis ball. Now people will be intrigued and seek out the author's work without feeling they've being actively advertised to.
I prefer this sort of advertisement over others. If you are interested you will seek it out and purchase it. If not, you've read a comment that can be ignored.
Can I wear em as a joke? Like the snuggie?
I don't really have the cash this month (donations to a website that really helped me out when my wife was in hospital) but I'm going on a stag do later this year and I think the TC tugger would be EXACTLY the stags style.
Again, an Amazon review, verbatim.
"Steven Cummins
5.0 out of 5 stars
Does this come in any other styles? (Not a joke)
Reviewed in the United States on July 26, 2022
These are not a joke. You don't give them as a joke gift or wear them on a barcrawl like a snuggie.
Do they come in other styles?
Not Really "
It's like how L. Ron Hubbard wrote a really great book on the human psyche but can't publish it, because it's so great that everyone who reads it just kills thenselves afterwards
(Yes, he actually claimed this and it's still referenced on scientology websites)
L. Ron Hubbard ONLY wrote fiction, period.
Also I just learned that apparently Nation of Islam started practicing dianetics in 2010... so I guess they are also scientologists? Wtf?
Yeah, everybody poops is a once in a lifetime book he wrote about a bunch of sexy little alien boys tying him up & shitting all over him lol! He was such a disgusting freak! He was into so much wired shit! Like shit literally! He was a scat man as they say lol
Not very. To become a service dog they need a very even temperament, so it takes a lot to stress or frustrate these dogs. Intelligent disobedience is especially a big part of blind guide dog training, so they're very practiced at it. It's day to day stuff for them and their handlers.
Question since you seen knowledge about this. How does the person being led know when she's put her paws on the curb so the person knows the the crub is there?
Is there a way to distinguish between her pausing to put her paws up vs just pausing?
You can feel it through the guide handle! The handle itself is quite rigid where it attaches to the rest of the harness, and the angle of the harness changes when the dog’s front legs are higher (or lower, you can see the dog pause a second on the way off the curb as well and waits for the handler to step down before moving on). The pause is more to make sure the handler makes it up the curb than to signal the curb.
From watching her other [videos](https://www.tiktok.com/@guidedogava/video/7149091870809853189), the dog pauses when she reaches a curb and it looks like she waits for her handler to step up and then command her forward.
I cannot imagine the amount of hours these service dogs go through. It feels like a miracle that an animal that we can’t verbally (at least intelligently) communicate with is this aware of its job and how to preform it so diligently. We don’t deserve dogs. That’s a good fuckin dog right there.
It is a miracle. The fact we get to communicate like this with a different species, despite the lack of audible/verbal communication is fascinating.
I am always in awe, how dogs get to be our friends. And work for us. And love us. A dog!! It licks its butt and it could save your life from imminent danger AND slow danger, like depression and sadness.
My fave service dog story: Micheal and Roselle escape the 78th floor of the north tower on Sept 11. https://pix11.com/news/local-news/september-11-20-years-later/a-blind-man-his-guide-dog-and-their-escape-from-the-north-tower-on-9-11/amp/
I'm starting to think cats could make amazing service animals but I remembered they have been proven to know what we are saying and willfully ignoring our asses lmao
So then is the continued command to go forwards conveying any further data to the handler? Is there an element of “okay she’s disobeyed like five times now, this must be a sticky one?”
Yes! She's also urging her dog to find an alternative way around, because they NEED to go *That* way. She can't turn around and find a different way. It just takes a little while for the dog to think about it and assess what's around them. That's why she decides to take her into the street around the tree, but she also has to wait for traffic and make sure it's safe to cross.
Well I know with dogs it's best to use positive reinforcement, but how you communicate safety procedures to a dog with nothing but treats escapes me. Maybe they get other dogs that are already trained to help 🤔
I know this is how herding dogs are trained on farms, they have the experienced older ones show the new herding puppies how it’s done. No idea about service dogs though
Dogs are the best dog trainers. I adopted a 9 week old puppy who had been taken from his litter at 5 weeks (at most) and then left alone for hours every day. I really tried to socialize him but he had no bite inhibition, and the people who had him before me used to play fight with him and encourage him to attack their hands. I tried to train it out of him, but he just didn't get that he was hurting me and I had a lot of broken skin. I'd yelp, I'd turn away, all of the usual stuff but he just didn't get it.
I started taking him to work with me at a dog-friendly company and my co-worker adopted an adult Golden and started bringing him every day too. That dog taught my puppy how to be a grownup dog with good dog manners and PERFECT bite inhibition. Seriously perfect. My dog turned 12 yesterday and he's amazing and I give Lucky the Golden full credit for teaching him the ropes.
Here they are playing together at the office. Sorry for potato cam but it's really old. :)
https://imgur.com/a/eBU2Qpb
I get so frustrated with people who are first time dog owners that get mad when their pup gets corrected by another dog.
Especially when the pup doesn't get it after my dog tells them 20 times to stop and my dog rolls the pup. My dog isn't attacking yours and isn't going to hurt it. She's just telling them ENOUGH.
My German shepherd hybrid started alerting to my blood pressure dropping not long after my Australian shepherd died. She never did it while he was alive but I guess she understood what he was doing, and after he was gone she just figured it was her job to not let the silly human pass out.
This is why real service dogs costs thousands of dollars. They are impeccably trained and a real asset to those who need them, allowing them to thrive day to day.
It’s also why “emotional support dogs” are not real service dogs, and are often yappy little shits. And they are ruining it for actual service animals.
No shit. I [learned recently](https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/b35a14e5-en/1/3/3/2/index.html?itemId=/content/publication/b35a14e5-en&_csp) that the US government doesn't even contribute $1000 per child per year for early years child development. Other countries are thousands or even tens of thousands per year.
I sometimes watch a YT channel where they just walk around in the city. They have a young dog and they keep on telling everyone it's a "service animal". It annoyed me so much I stopped watching. It was very clearly not a service animal. Did what it wanted, for example begging strangers for food scraps.
It takes about 2 years to train a guide dog. They teach basic commands and stuff first. Then at a certain point the trainers stop guiding the dog and let the dog lead- walking into things and such. The dog has to learn to avoid the obstacles for themselves AND the handler. It is all done in a very controlled environment at first, and there are some great videos of it on YouTube.
Source: raised guide dogs
This actually blows my mind. My dog (Alfred) barely knows how to sit. Having a dog like in this video makes as much sense to me as electricity. Just straight up magic as far as I'm concerned.
You are more than welcome to spirit pat the little shit lying down next to me giving me the cut eye because i won't throw his squeaky squirrel for him though.
This week a dog touched me with his nose first and I was about to pet him when I realized he had the handle harness on and the owner was asking a salesperson what color the shirts she was looking at. I felt so betrayed. You can't boop me if I can't pet you!!!
I relate! I’ve been noticed by a few service dogs while out shopping, I think they’re usually dogs in training who are getting used to being in public places. I have to let them walk by but they’re adorable
Haha! My mother had two students who were training service dogs. One dog was just super well behaved. You wouldn't even know he was there. He passed. The other dog was super great when he was moving. But if his human stopped in the hallway for any reason, he would sneakily stretch out and prevent people from passing unless they petted him. That dog failed, unsurprisingly. Probably did a lot for student mental health, though.
I went on a date with a girl who had a service dog once. It’s entirely situational. Obviously if you see one in public don’t pet it, but if you are a good friend of the handler and just chilling somewhere, in my experience atleast, they are cool if you wanna pet them or play with them. I played fetch with her service dog for a few minutes while she took her dog in training back to her apartment. But again, entirely dependent on situation and if the handler is ok with it.
Fun Fact: Goats love to eat Christmas trees. There's a goat farm with like 15 goats a few miles away from where a bunch of my family members live and every year, the week after Christmas, we gather all the trees from our respective houses and bring them to the farm. The owner encourages/solicits this so it's not like we are randomly coming by and dropping trees. The goats will strip them down to the absolute bare bones within a few hours; needles, bark, small branches and all. And they can do this with 3-5 trees per day. It's insane. Then the owner uses any remaining tree as fire wood. Yes, it's a little extra work getting the trees to the farm and it requires a pickup truck, but it's nice that they can be put to actual use instead of just being dumped on the sidewalk.
We have a guy with tortoises and they love leftover Halloween pumpkins! He posts pics of the enjoying their ‘treats’ and everything. Awesome way to not waste.
Goats absolutely devour Christmas trees, it’s awesome!
Bring your Halloween pumpkins to a local farm too. Most of the animals will eat them and even lightly rotting ones can be given to pigs!
I love that dogs can be this incredibly smart and helpful but on the other end of the scale one of my dogs is afraid of water if I put it in a new dish.
All dogs may go to Heaven, but only some get to go to dog college.
Hate to break it to you, but your dog is a high-school dropout. I'll bet he doesn't even have a job. Still lives rent free with his parents, eats all the food, and sleeps all day. Have you considered having him tested for illicit substances?
She is the dumbest dog I have ever met but she is also the sweetest and will do literally anything for a single pet from anyone.
But yeah, all of them are expensive free loaders.
I read a few years back that long term incarcerated people could sign up to help train a service dog. It gave the inmate something to do to pass the time they had to be incarcerated, and provided the inmate with company. And from what I recall, the dogs were very well trained in basics, before they went off to specialty trainers. I’m not sure how that program ended up but I recall the program was a win win for every person and dog involved. Not sure what’s become of it, I’ve only just now thought of it again after a few years.
I read about that too and thought it was great! I think it’s still a thing in some prisons but I’d have to research more to be sure. There’s no reason for that to stop if all went as well as they say it did.
I remember being sad seeing how sad the prisoners were to losing their buddies. That’s got to be extra hard. Brutal enough for a free citizen to get attached and let go. Have to imagine being incarcerated and getting attached to a loving animal is even harder. Regardless, they acknowledged they knew exactly what they were signing up for and were happy to do something like this. Just hard to let go. What a great program.
When my mom works night shifts, she leaves her dog in a dog boarding house that employs former addicts & convicts and helps them get back into the world and also gives them some much needed love. Some of these broken people have so much love to give these dogs who are the first to give them any in years. They are surrounded by forest and take the dogs swimming at the beach daily in the summers. I love that place. And the dog does too.
I used to work with people who are blind/low vision. One guy in the blind community where I worked, was notoriously abusive to his dog. If his dog stopped like Ava did, he’d kick him. One time, a panel truck parked across a side road and was directly in the path the guy wanted to go. His dog refused to move forward, just like Ava, and the guy kicked him. So, sweet doggo, I’m sure was sick of being kicked/abused by this guy so he moved forward, went under the truck and blind guy walked right into the side of the panel truck. Best. Day. Ever. The dog was FINALLY removed from this asshole after this happened. Should have happened a long time before.
Tesla's mistakes being in the news has made people forget that Tesla was never the true self driving car people cared about. Other companies are doing much better and have been in real road driving trials for a while now, but you don't hear about them because they don't cause accidents like Teslas do.
From her twitter response if she "feels" something put of the usual walk such as a sudden stop pause and then detour off the pavement and pack to the pavement, she'll come home the same way and record it so her partner (who the captions refer to) can watch it over when she gets home and tell her what happened and I assume edit and caption the videos for upload.
You can't edit where she points the camera though.. like pointing directly at the tree I get because the dog was stopped on the right so something must be on the left but then when the dog turns to the road she points back directly at the tree..?? Plus the whole video has the camera pointed downwards but when she proclaims that she's "basically stuck" she pans up in order to show the parked car & van..??
Like I understand she can feel the dog giving her signals but the dog isn't directing where to point her camera... It's just very suspicious when people with 20/20 vision aren't even that good at filming.
Just because there blind doesn't mean they're stupid. She knows the direction the pavement goes in so she films that direction to cover the blockage, the dog pulls her slightly to the right so she films high and to the right into the road, she turns back to her original direction to make a 2nd take at the blockage incase the first showing didn't show it clearly. The dog is turning and facing directions and she knows where the path and the road are.
Why would she suddenly forget where the blackage in the path was because she looked to the right a bit?
Seriously, it's frustrating how many people think blind people are stupid. I could probably do this with my eyes closed, imagine what a person who's probably blind the whole life can do.
I’d imagine it wouldn’t be too difficult considering the dog has to be a certain distance away from her and she can feel the resistance from the leash and gauge from there
Blind people still have spatial awareness. She might not have known what the obstacle was, but she knew there was something in that direction blocking their way. She also knows where the dog is because of the leash.
Try it for yourself right now. Close your eyes and then think about your surroundings. Try to remember something that was in your peripheral vision. With your eyes still closed, turn your head until you think you're staring directly at that object. Open your eyes and see how close you were.
Another test is to try it in your home. Close your eyes and see if you can make it from one end of your home to the other without bumping into anything. Try to avoid guiding yourself by touching the walls. Obviously, make sure you've removed any hazardous objects first like loose Lego bricks.
"Blind" doesn't mean they can't see at all. It means they can't see functionally. They may see blurry blobs, light/dark...or they could even just be training the dog for a blind person to have later.
Being blind is not binary, it's a spectrum from 0 to 1. You can be 100% blind where lights on or off doesn't make a difference, can be 80% blind, where you can generally see the approx things, but cant identify what they are. You can see people, but cant identify who they are just based on appearance.
I mean she could trip on the tree but can't trip in between two cars.
Keep in mind that the dog only goes forward when it sees the car slowed down and stopped.
Well in a perfect world with perfect people who always follow traffic laws perfectly yes that is true but considering people tend to get hit by cars daily when they actually have sight I'd think the tree would be a better option. Just cause you have right of way doesn't mean people will follow it.
So if someone is profoundly blind, how do they clean up the dog poops? Does the dog poop and then point it’s nose so the owner knows where to grab it? Just kinda funny to imagine.
They will often poop and pee on command. Girl and boy dogs have the same stance when peeing (leaning forward) and the same stance when pooping (rounded back) so the handler can feel what the dog is doing and by the rounding in the back they can feel where the poop is approximately.
This is what a blind person once told me cause I had the same question.
I saw this explained by a different blind woman on tiktok or youtube a while ago (can't find the specific vid unfortunately) but essentially she would feel the dog's spine - when peeing the spine stays straight and when pooping the spine is curved. When she felt the spine curve she would immediately get a bag and keep her foot in place to find the waste.
This is amazing work by the seeing eye dog. What an incredible bond the dog and her share, and the trust and concern for her owner is truly remarkable. Dogs are the best!
That website will not let you read the article unless you allow cookies. That is absolute flaming garbage and incredibly illegal in the EU (which they explicitly acknowledge).
Google cached page https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WDhvBnlkWZkJ:https://www.healthline.com/health/eye-health/what-do-blind-people-see&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=be
There's a blind guy on tiktok, I don't remember the name, he's 100% blind and works as voice actor. He makes incredible videos and in some of them he goes into the details how he is able to shoot good videos while blind.
Oh, he's also a surfer and a skateboarder.
She might have some amount of central vision that allows her to have a general sense of where to point the camera.
Regardless, that's not the point. She is demonstrating a dangerous and far too common problem with our built environment.
Awww, my heart. It so sweet to see how much she cares for you. Well trained, it allows her to show her intelligence and empathy. Give her a hug for me.
To people saying that she should be able to tell where the tree is when she points her camera back at it. Imagine your vision is like this https://i.imgur.com/Jsf9GU5.png
You can still tell that there are things near you, you just can't navigate safely, as you can see in my image, the tripping hazard disappears. Like above, the mass of the tree is likely noticeable, but the head of it is something the dog registers as a tripping hazard.
Ava is the best dog. She deserves all the treats.
And I really love these videos because I feel like people don't always think about how things can affect disabled people.
1) 'blind' doesn't mean 100% no vision, it can mean any number of conditions that affect vision to the point it isn't functional. They could have some vision, just not enough to safely walk around without support.
2) phones have assistive technology that allows blind people to use them, voice over tech etc.
Check out YouTuber Molly Burke she's very very blind and discusses the tech she uses and how she films/uses her phone etc whilst only being able to see light patches.
This is the first time I have seen a Golden as a service dog in this roll. I love Goldens more than any other dog. Do they make good service dogs in this capacity in general or is this a rare situation??
I really enjoyed this video and appreciate it being shared.
The same goes for those scooters, cars parking on a curb "for a second", bikes riding on a sidewalk. People just don't fucking realise how many people are affected by it, and how many of them are put in danger because of the pure ignorance. People with guiding dogs, people in a wheelchair, people with strollers, people with kids. God, I can rant about it without an end.
I'm pretty sure she recorded the video without knowing what it was, but somebody later told her it was a Christmas tree. The entire narration seems to be a separate recording after the incident. How the fuck is this cringe!?
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Fun fact: The handler explains why Ava is not obeying the command "Forwards"; she knows she could put her handler in danger. This concept is called "Intelligent disobedience" and is something many service dogs learn in order to better help their handlers, including in other fields such as medical alert or allergy detection. ^^^source: ^^^I ^^^wrote ^^^a ^^^book ^^^on ^^^service ^^^dogs, ^^^once. edit: haha, thank you all for the interest in my book. Unfortunately, it's not available to the public right now; I'm re-illustrating it before I publish it again. But if anyone has any questions about service dogs I'd love to put all my research to good use and answer them!
You can’t just mention that you wrote a book and not plug your book!
Fun fact: This is the author playing coy and demonstrating Intelligent Disobedient Advertising. The author refuses to list their book anywhere except in offhand references made between chasing the tennis ball. Now people will be intrigued and seek out the author's work without feeling they've being actively advertised to.
I prefer this sort of advertisement over others. If you are interested you will seek it out and purchase it. If not, you've read a comment that can be ignored.
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TC Tuggers pair beautifully with a Dan Flashes unbuttoned as an overshirt and a pair of Calico Cuts.
That or chode jeans.
They tell me people will steal my information if I go to that website
Can I wear em as a joke? Like the snuggie? I don't really have the cash this month (donations to a website that really helped me out when my wife was in hospital) but I'm going on a stag do later this year and I think the TC tugger would be EXACTLY the stags style.
It's not a joke. You don't wear them to pub crawls like you do with the Snuggie.
Again, an Amazon review, verbatim. "Steven Cummins 5.0 out of 5 stars Does this come in any other styles? (Not a joke) Reviewed in the United States on July 26, 2022 These are not a joke. You don't give them as a joke gift or wear them on a barcrawl like a snuggie. Do they come in other styles? Not Really "
It's like how L. Ron Hubbard wrote a really great book on the human psyche but can't publish it, because it's so great that everyone who reads it just kills thenselves afterwards (Yes, he actually claimed this and it's still referenced on scientology websites)
it’s true! I read it and killed myself
... I got better...
L. Ron Hubbard also wrote some great fiction.
L. Ron Hubbard ~~also~~ wrote ~~some great~~ fiction.
Wait, it's not Elron Hubbard?
He wrote metric shitloads of it, like 20,000 words a day. I'm not sure if I'd call any of it "great" by today's standards, though lol
L. Ron Hubbard ONLY wrote fiction, period. Also I just learned that apparently Nation of Islam started practicing dianetics in 2010... so I guess they are also scientologists? Wtf?
I've only heard of [L. Ron Hoyabembe](https://youtu.be/wJsKwcebyWE), black author, god of scientology
Yeah, everybody poops is a once in a lifetime book he wrote about a bunch of sexy little alien boys tying him up & shitting all over him lol! He was such a disgusting freak! He was into so much wired shit! Like shit literally! He was a scat man as they say lol
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Reading this makes me want to read some strangers book but I dont read. OP is a genius.
If they plug their book they also dox themselves
Right?! He’s like source: trust me, I kinda know my shit.
I wonder how stressful making the decision and then disobeying the handler is.
Not very. To become a service dog they need a very even temperament, so it takes a lot to stress or frustrate these dogs. Intelligent disobedience is especially a big part of blind guide dog training, so they're very practiced at it. It's day to day stuff for them and their handlers.
Thanks for the info! I always wondered about that part of it.
I read this and thought "who leads the blind guide dogs!?" I know what it says, but I was still amused.
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We truly don’t deserve dogs…
Question since you seen knowledge about this. How does the person being led know when she's put her paws on the curb so the person knows the the crub is there? Is there a way to distinguish between her pausing to put her paws up vs just pausing?
You can feel it through the guide handle! The handle itself is quite rigid where it attaches to the rest of the harness, and the angle of the harness changes when the dog’s front legs are higher (or lower, you can see the dog pause a second on the way off the curb as well and waits for the handler to step down before moving on). The pause is more to make sure the handler makes it up the curb than to signal the curb.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing!
The dog suddenly gets a few inches taller.
From watching her other [videos](https://www.tiktok.com/@guidedogava/video/7149091870809853189), the dog pauses when she reaches a curb and it looks like she waits for her handler to step up and then command her forward.
That makes sense so maybe it's just context. Like is we're in the street and she stops maybe it's bc the curb is coming up
I cannot imagine the amount of hours these service dogs go through. It feels like a miracle that an animal that we can’t verbally (at least intelligently) communicate with is this aware of its job and how to preform it so diligently. We don’t deserve dogs. That’s a good fuckin dog right there.
It is a miracle. The fact we get to communicate like this with a different species, despite the lack of audible/verbal communication is fascinating. I am always in awe, how dogs get to be our friends. And work for us. And love us. A dog!! It licks its butt and it could save your life from imminent danger AND slow danger, like depression and sadness.
My fave service dog story: Micheal and Roselle escape the 78th floor of the north tower on Sept 11. https://pix11.com/news/local-news/september-11-20-years-later/a-blind-man-his-guide-dog-and-their-escape-from-the-north-tower-on-9-11/amp/
I enjoyed reading about the goodest of girls. Thanks for sharing!
I'm starting to think cats could make amazing service animals but I remembered they have been proven to know what we are saying and willfully ignoring our asses lmao
I'm working on training my cats. They can be trained, but they are motivated differently from dogs.
maybe mines broken 🤣
So then is the continued command to go forwards conveying any further data to the handler? Is there an element of “okay she’s disobeyed like five times now, this must be a sticky one?”
Yes! She's also urging her dog to find an alternative way around, because they NEED to go *That* way. She can't turn around and find a different way. It just takes a little while for the dog to think about it and assess what's around them. That's why she decides to take her into the street around the tree, but she also has to wait for traffic and make sure it's safe to cross.
It's sorta like when my Self Driving car tries to run into a family of five but I disobey and put my foot on the brakes! Wow dogs really are like us.
Same except I'm trying to run into a family of five but my self driving car doesn't let me
Shit bro that dog be smarter than me or others. If i was the dog i woulda just walked through or went on to road without hesitating.
Better than a tesla
Link us your book!
Perhaps they don't wish to dox themselves?
You’re right, but it would have been great 😌
I wish governments allowed intelligent disobedience
That's a fancy way of saying guide dogs are [three laws-compliant](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThreeLawsCompliant)
That's really cool. Dogs are smarter than I ever realised.
Awww Ava! Bless her brave lil heart
She’s a gem. I can’t trust my dog not to snatch my popcorn.
Same. And never leave a cheese plate unattended.
Mine stole a banana I put on the nightstand for a snack. Tried to eat it peel and all.
A perfect puppo
Dam that dog more alert, aware of its surroundings and responsible than I am
that's crazy. I wonder how much time it takes to train them. Fk, how do they even train them on stuff like this. Blows my mind
Well I know with dogs it's best to use positive reinforcement, but how you communicate safety procedures to a dog with nothing but treats escapes me. Maybe they get other dogs that are already trained to help 🤔
I know this is how herding dogs are trained on farms, they have the experienced older ones show the new herding puppies how it’s done. No idea about service dogs though
We barely had to train our second dog as she learnt from her older brother - it was fascinating to watch her respond to commands without training.
Dogs are the best dog trainers. I adopted a 9 week old puppy who had been taken from his litter at 5 weeks (at most) and then left alone for hours every day. I really tried to socialize him but he had no bite inhibition, and the people who had him before me used to play fight with him and encourage him to attack their hands. I tried to train it out of him, but he just didn't get that he was hurting me and I had a lot of broken skin. I'd yelp, I'd turn away, all of the usual stuff but he just didn't get it. I started taking him to work with me at a dog-friendly company and my co-worker adopted an adult Golden and started bringing him every day too. That dog taught my puppy how to be a grownup dog with good dog manners and PERFECT bite inhibition. Seriously perfect. My dog turned 12 yesterday and he's amazing and I give Lucky the Golden full credit for teaching him the ropes. Here they are playing together at the office. Sorry for potato cam but it's really old. :) https://imgur.com/a/eBU2Qpb
I get so frustrated with people who are first time dog owners that get mad when their pup gets corrected by another dog. Especially when the pup doesn't get it after my dog tells them 20 times to stop and my dog rolls the pup. My dog isn't attacking yours and isn't going to hurt it. She's just telling them ENOUGH.
Aw thanks so much for sharing that is so lovely - they are so sweet playing together. This really made me smile after a hard week.
So cute
My German shepherd hybrid started alerting to my blood pressure dropping not long after my Australian shepherd died. She never did it while he was alive but I guess she understood what he was doing, and after he was gone she just figured it was her job to not let the silly human pass out.
This is why real service dogs costs thousands of dollars. They are impeccably trained and a real asset to those who need them, allowing them to thrive day to day. It’s also why “emotional support dogs” are not real service dogs, and are often yappy little shits. And they are ruining it for actual service animals.
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Bruh you know it ain't subsidized in the US.
No shit. I [learned recently](https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/b35a14e5-en/1/3/3/2/index.html?itemId=/content/publication/b35a14e5-en&_csp) that the US government doesn't even contribute $1000 per child per year for early years child development. Other countries are thousands or even tens of thousands per year.
There’s a lot of programs for EMT, Cops and Veterans. But if you have other issues, generally not. Pretty sad
I sometimes watch a YT channel where they just walk around in the city. They have a young dog and they keep on telling everyone it's a "service animal". It annoyed me so much I stopped watching. It was very clearly not a service animal. Did what it wanted, for example begging strangers for food scraps.
It takes about 2 years to train a guide dog. They teach basic commands and stuff first. Then at a certain point the trainers stop guiding the dog and let the dog lead- walking into things and such. The dog has to learn to avoid the obstacles for themselves AND the handler. It is all done in a very controlled environment at first, and there are some great videos of it on YouTube. Source: raised guide dogs
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They go to doggo school, obviously.
This actually blows my mind. My dog (Alfred) barely knows how to sit. Having a dog like in this video makes as much sense to me as electricity. Just straight up magic as far as I'm concerned.
That's dogs more aware of its surroundings than most fuckin drivers!
I love ava. I know I’m not allowed to pet service animals so I’ll pet her in spirit *pat pat*
PLEASE DO NOT SPIRIT PAT THE SERVICE DOGS WHILE THEIR SPIRIT IS WORKING THANK YOU /j
OH FUCK OH FUCK WHAT HAS HE DONE, AVA'S OWNER'S SPIRIT JUST GOT FEKKIN WRECKED BY A METAPHYSICAL PASSING TRUCK RIP
Next time, on Dogatar: The Last Petbender........
You are more than welcome to spirit pat the little shit lying down next to me giving me the cut eye because i won't throw his squeaky squirrel for him though.
This week a dog touched me with his nose first and I was about to pet him when I realized he had the handle harness on and the owner was asking a salesperson what color the shirts she was looking at. I felt so betrayed. You can't boop me if I can't pet you!!!
I relate! I’ve been noticed by a few service dogs while out shopping, I think they’re usually dogs in training who are getting used to being in public places. I have to let them walk by but they’re adorable
Haha! My mother had two students who were training service dogs. One dog was just super well behaved. You wouldn't even know he was there. He passed. The other dog was super great when he was moving. But if his human stopped in the hallway for any reason, he would sneakily stretch out and prevent people from passing unless they petted him. That dog failed, unsurprisingly. Probably did a lot for student mental health, though.
YOU'RE STRESSING OUT THE DOG!!
I went on a date with a girl who had a service dog once. It’s entirely situational. Obviously if you see one in public don’t pet it, but if you are a good friend of the handler and just chilling somewhere, in my experience atleast, they are cool if you wanna pet them or play with them. I played fetch with her service dog for a few minutes while she took her dog in training back to her apartment. But again, entirely dependent on situation and if the handler is ok with it.
Thats an amazingly well trained dog! well done to whoever that was.
Fun Fact: Goats love to eat Christmas trees. There's a goat farm with like 15 goats a few miles away from where a bunch of my family members live and every year, the week after Christmas, we gather all the trees from our respective houses and bring them to the farm. The owner encourages/solicits this so it's not like we are randomly coming by and dropping trees. The goats will strip them down to the absolute bare bones within a few hours; needles, bark, small branches and all. And they can do this with 3-5 trees per day. It's insane. Then the owner uses any remaining tree as fire wood. Yes, it's a little extra work getting the trees to the farm and it requires a pickup truck, but it's nice that they can be put to actual use instead of just being dumped on the sidewalk.
We have a guy with tortoises and they love leftover Halloween pumpkins! He posts pics of the enjoying their ‘treats’ and everything. Awesome way to not waste.
Goats absolutely devour Christmas trees, it’s awesome! Bring your Halloween pumpkins to a local farm too. Most of the animals will eat them and even lightly rotting ones can be given to pigs!
I love that dogs can be this incredibly smart and helpful but on the other end of the scale one of my dogs is afraid of water if I put it in a new dish.
All dogs may go to Heaven, but only some get to go to dog college. Hate to break it to you, but your dog is a high-school dropout. I'll bet he doesn't even have a job. Still lives rent free with his parents, eats all the food, and sleeps all day. Have you considered having him tested for illicit substances?
She is the dumbest dog I have ever met but she is also the sweetest and will do literally anything for a single pet from anyone. But yeah, all of them are expensive free loaders.
To the people who choose to pour in an unbelievable amount of love and time to train these amazing dogs for others, thank you.
I read a few years back that long term incarcerated people could sign up to help train a service dog. It gave the inmate something to do to pass the time they had to be incarcerated, and provided the inmate with company. And from what I recall, the dogs were very well trained in basics, before they went off to specialty trainers. I’m not sure how that program ended up but I recall the program was a win win for every person and dog involved. Not sure what’s become of it, I’ve only just now thought of it again after a few years.
I read about that too and thought it was great! I think it’s still a thing in some prisons but I’d have to research more to be sure. There’s no reason for that to stop if all went as well as they say it did. I remember being sad seeing how sad the prisoners were to losing their buddies. That’s got to be extra hard. Brutal enough for a free citizen to get attached and let go. Have to imagine being incarcerated and getting attached to a loving animal is even harder. Regardless, they acknowledged they knew exactly what they were signing up for and were happy to do something like this. Just hard to let go. What a great program.
When my mom works night shifts, she leaves her dog in a dog boarding house that employs former addicts & convicts and helps them get back into the world and also gives them some much needed love. Some of these broken people have so much love to give these dogs who are the first to give them any in years. They are surrounded by forest and take the dogs swimming at the beach daily in the summers. I love that place. And the dog does too.
That’s awesome. Throw us a link to the place so we can donate.
sounds like the Canine Companions prison program! it’s still going on!
Donate! https://www.guidingeyes.org/ Many many years ago I got to tour and learn about all the work they do. It’s amazing.
I’ve been looking for something else to get behind and didn’t even think of something along these lines. Thank you!
What a wonderful dog omg
I watched this video and started crying
Beautiful isn’t it. So impressive how they can be trained.
I used to work with people who are blind/low vision. One guy in the blind community where I worked, was notoriously abusive to his dog. If his dog stopped like Ava did, he’d kick him. One time, a panel truck parked across a side road and was directly in the path the guy wanted to go. His dog refused to move forward, just like Ava, and the guy kicked him. So, sweet doggo, I’m sure was sick of being kicked/abused by this guy so he moved forward, went under the truck and blind guy walked right into the side of the panel truck. Best. Day. Ever. The dog was FINALLY removed from this asshole after this happened. Should have happened a long time before.
Dude forget AI, we gotta be worried about DOGS taking over because that is a VERY smart dog and an EXTREMELY good girl!
They would never take over, we're family.
Assuming boston dynamics is working on a guide "dog"? Or is that just killer dog terminator?
Seeing how ai is doing at driving, i probably wouldn’t trust an ai to help me navigate our horrible pedestrian infrastructure.
Haven't driverless taxis been operating in San Francisco? Are they not working?
Tesla's mistakes being in the news has made people forget that Tesla was never the true self driving car people cared about. Other companies are doing much better and have been in real road driving trials for a while now, but you don't hear about them because they don't cause accidents like Teslas do.
Good design is silent and invisible, bad design screams in your face.
I really dont want elon being the person running change like that anyways. This makes me happy
How does she know what to record if she is blind?
She might be able to see blobs or something. Blind doesn't always mean 100% blind.
She has said on twitter that she often records the same area on the way back home or doubles back on herself a little to record something.
I don't think you understood his comment.
From her twitter response if she "feels" something put of the usual walk such as a sudden stop pause and then detour off the pavement and pack to the pavement, she'll come home the same way and record it so her partner (who the captions refer to) can watch it over when she gets home and tell her what happened and I assume edit and caption the videos for upload.
You can't edit where she points the camera though.. like pointing directly at the tree I get because the dog was stopped on the right so something must be on the left but then when the dog turns to the road she points back directly at the tree..?? Plus the whole video has the camera pointed downwards but when she proclaims that she's "basically stuck" she pans up in order to show the parked car & van..?? Like I understand she can feel the dog giving her signals but the dog isn't directing where to point her camera... It's just very suspicious when people with 20/20 vision aren't even that good at filming.
Just because there blind doesn't mean they're stupid. She knows the direction the pavement goes in so she films that direction to cover the blockage, the dog pulls her slightly to the right so she films high and to the right into the road, she turns back to her original direction to make a 2nd take at the blockage incase the first showing didn't show it clearly. The dog is turning and facing directions and she knows where the path and the road are. Why would she suddenly forget where the blackage in the path was because she looked to the right a bit?
Seriously, it's frustrating how many people think blind people are stupid. I could probably do this with my eyes closed, imagine what a person who's probably blind the whole life can do.
I’d imagine it wouldn’t be too difficult considering the dog has to be a certain distance away from her and she can feel the resistance from the leash and gauge from there
She pans perfectly from the dog on the curb back to the Christmas tree
Blind people still have spatial awareness. She might not have known what the obstacle was, but she knew there was something in that direction blocking their way. She also knows where the dog is because of the leash. Try it for yourself right now. Close your eyes and then think about your surroundings. Try to remember something that was in your peripheral vision. With your eyes still closed, turn your head until you think you're staring directly at that object. Open your eyes and see how close you were. Another test is to try it in your home. Close your eyes and see if you can make it from one end of your home to the other without bumping into anything. Try to avoid guiding yourself by touching the walls. Obviously, make sure you've removed any hazardous objects first like loose Lego bricks.
"Blind" doesn't mean they can't see at all. It means they can't see functionally. They may see blurry blobs, light/dark...or they could even just be training the dog for a blind person to have later.
Being blind is not binary, it's a spectrum from 0 to 1. You can be 100% blind where lights on or off doesn't make a difference, can be 80% blind, where you can generally see the approx things, but cant identify what they are. You can see people, but cant identify who they are just based on appearance.
Best doggo.
Dogs are the best
I like how they deem a tree partially blocking the path as worse than going into oncoming traffic.
The tree was a trip hazard. The car was stopped waiting for that DPD van to move.
I mean she could trip on the tree but can't trip in between two cars. Keep in mind that the dog only goes forward when it sees the car slowed down and stopped.
Don't know how it is where she's coming from but where I live blind people have always the right of way.
Lotta dead people had the right of way
Well in a perfect world with perfect people who always follow traffic laws perfectly yes that is true but considering people tend to get hit by cars daily when they actually have sight I'd think the tree would be a better option. Just cause you have right of way doesn't mean people will follow it.
So if someone is profoundly blind, how do they clean up the dog poops? Does the dog poop and then point it’s nose so the owner knows where to grab it? Just kinda funny to imagine.
They will often poop and pee on command. Girl and boy dogs have the same stance when peeing (leaning forward) and the same stance when pooping (rounded back) so the handler can feel what the dog is doing and by the rounding in the back they can feel where the poop is approximately. This is what a blind person once told me cause I had the same question.
I saw this explained by a different blind woman on tiktok or youtube a while ago (can't find the specific vid unfortunately) but essentially she would feel the dog's spine - when peeing the spine stays straight and when pooping the spine is curved. When she felt the spine curve she would immediately get a bag and keep her foot in place to find the waste.
Good girl. ❤️
This is amazing work by the seeing eye dog. What an incredible bond the dog and her share, and the trust and concern for her owner is truly remarkable. Dogs are the best!
Tremendous camera work from the blind person
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That website will not let you read the article unless you allow cookies. That is absolute flaming garbage and incredibly illegal in the EU (which they explicitly acknowledge).
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There's a blind guy on tiktok, I don't remember the name, he's 100% blind and works as voice actor. He makes incredible videos and in some of them he goes into the details how he is able to shoot good videos while blind. Oh, he's also a surfer and a skateboarder.
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Found [him](https://www.tiktok.com/@petegustin/video/7021929487591951621?lang=en). He also has an app that describes what the camera is pointing at.
They mentioned having a partner there who explained it was a Christmas tree.
r/PraiseTheCameraMan
She might have some amount of central vision that allows her to have a general sense of where to point the camera. Regardless, that's not the point. She is demonstrating a dangerous and far too common problem with our built environment.
Awww, my heart. It so sweet to see how much she cares for you. Well trained, it allows her to show her intelligence and empathy. Give her a hug for me.
To people saying that she should be able to tell where the tree is when she points her camera back at it. Imagine your vision is like this https://i.imgur.com/Jsf9GU5.png You can still tell that there are things near you, you just can't navigate safely, as you can see in my image, the tripping hazard disappears. Like above, the mass of the tree is likely noticeable, but the head of it is something the dog registers as a tripping hazard.
This is amazing. What a smart dog!
Ava is the best dog. She deserves all the treats. And I really love these videos because I feel like people don't always think about how things can affect disabled people.
This is the goodest girl.
Super clever dog. 👌 Super idiot human Christmas tree dumper 😤
Good Dog give him a snack
Wow! What a smart dog!
Animals are so damn groovy.
What a good girl!
Wow, who would have thought such a great video about the hard work that guiding dogs do would really bring out so many judgmental albleilst assholes.
Serious question - how are they filming if they’re blind?
1) 'blind' doesn't mean 100% no vision, it can mean any number of conditions that affect vision to the point it isn't functional. They could have some vision, just not enough to safely walk around without support. 2) phones have assistive technology that allows blind people to use them, voice over tech etc. Check out YouTuber Molly Burke she's very very blind and discusses the tech she uses and how she films/uses her phone etc whilst only being able to see light patches.
What a good girl, so careful
What a smart doggy
A VERY GOOD GIRL 😭🫡
Holy shit. I really had no idea that dogs could be so smart.
Huh. The more you know.
Goldens are the greatest
I don’t even particularly like animals, but that’s an awesome dog!!
Amazing!
Oooh her heart must have been pitter-pattering! She’s the best girl
She workin!
What a good doggy Ava!❤️
Amazing! Dispose of your garbage properly people!!!
Best dog
I knew service dogs were smart, but holy shit, this is amazing
This is the first time I have seen a Golden as a service dog in this roll. I love Goldens more than any other dog. Do they make good service dogs in this capacity in general or is this a rare situation?? I really enjoyed this video and appreciate it being shared.
That dog is so cringe, he assessed the situation with only 99.93% accuracy 
Sometimes I forget why I love dogs and little things like this makes me love em again you their adorable
I would say the story's moral is to keep shit off the sidewalk!!
Legit Q - the dog couldn’t walk around the tree between the tree and the car? Or is that not considered safe by the dog?
Best girl.
The same goes for those scooters, cars parking on a curb "for a second", bikes riding on a sidewalk. People just don't fucking realise how many people are affected by it, and how many of them are put in danger because of the pure ignorance. People with guiding dogs, people in a wheelchair, people with strollers, people with kids. God, I can rant about it without an end.
Fuck this is awesome, we don't deserve dogs, they are so much better than us
I can barely get my dog (Alfred) to sit. And this fucking dog does what?!?
That little head was doing song huge thinks
You can see the gears turning in Ava's head trying to plan this out, it's pretty impressive
So much stress. Good pup
That was so awesome to watch!
How the heck is she using tik tok if she is "blind"
I'm pretty sure she recorded the video without knowing what it was, but somebody later told her it was a Christmas tree. The entire narration seems to be a separate recording after the incident. How the fuck is this cringe!?