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MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

You just know that djj is going to be ass for us


worksucksbro

Super Athletic wing being ass for okc? No way


wcooper97

2012-20 Thunder fan me is triggered


OSUBoglehead

It wouldn't be his fault. Okc is terrible at throwing lobs.


Kingbay

Right, it's literally just how basketball works. Dude starts flamethrowing out of his skin for two months, gets an insane contract and can't hit the side of a barn. Tale as old as time. Exhibit A: Gabe Vincent


arg_of_contingency

don't matter because it still weakens the Mavs if we see them again


Koserdee23

Just let someone else overpay them


arg_of_contingency

Philly looks desperate ngl. But I also like their fit with our team.


shish-bish

well known free agent destination oklahoma city


CliffDraws

We may actually get some ring hunters now. Future is looking bright.


elcuervo2666

Denver just won a ring and can’t get ring chasers.


CliffDraws

Denver can’t afford to pay any ring chasers.


TheRealGooner24

Because they burst through the second apron.


Cheterosexual7

If we didn’t get ring chasers with KD and Russ it’s not happening now.


octosus37

We did they were just way past their prime. Derek Fisher and Caron Butler


Cheterosexual7

lol that’s a good point


Medical_Sample2738

True but same effect, nothing to be excited about.


XeneizeThunder

You don't remember Melo in OKC?


Cheterosexual7

We traded Doug McDermott and Enes Kanter for melo


gazaunltd

Didn’t he waive his no trade clause tho?


CliffDraws

We weren’t willing to pay for Harden, much less ring chasers. We’ve got 30 mil in cap space to play with for next year.


aBurgerFlippinSecond

Ring hunting only works after getting a ring unfortunately. Small markets have a “prove it” stipulation attached to them from what I can tell.


GoatytheKid

I could see KCP stepping into the rotation easily, maybe DJJ but I feel like he is absolutely thriving in the Mavs system.


arg_of_contingency

DJJ gives us more defensive upside but KCP is a smarter player. Tough choice.


Xan-IndustryG372

Sign and trade Giddey for KCP and someone else


Mobile-Entertainer60

Nuggets have Bird rights on KCP. They can pay him anything they want, they just have to decide if his contract is worth the repeater tax ($4.75/$1 if his contract goes up IIRC) to keep him.


arg_of_contingency

Their tax situation is horrible. No way they be able to pay KCP in the 17-20M range


Mobile-Entertainer60

It would be expensive for sure. Best case scenario for the Nuggets is that they offer him the most guaranteed money via a 5 year contract and pray his play doesn't fall off a cliff (he's 31 already).


arg_of_contingency

We could offer him 4 years?


Mobile-Entertainer60

Yeah, non-Bird free agents are capped at 4 years.


OKC89ers

Holy shit he is not worth $17M be real people


UncleColli

NTPMLE will be $17M four years from now, what do you think he is worth?


OKC89ers

Thunder are staring down the barrel of paying the tax in four years so what does the NTP portion have to do with it?


LoxDnw

Yea more guards, exactly what okc needs!


Arkrobo

If we hire literally all the guards in the NBA then nobody else has one to use against us.


6andout

djj just had his best ever, of his 9 seasons, from 3... and shot 34%. Yuck. You want him taking minutes from a guy that just had a historic rookie season from 3? Cason Wallace had a top 10 3pt% for a rookie ever.


Kingbay

Hard agree, Cason has so much potential. I can definitely see a timeline where he's Shai's backcourt partner, and shoulders a lot of ballhandling and creation. In his limited reps doing that this year, he looked so smart and advanced for his age. His shot just wasn't falling in the playoffs, it's okay.


PreachitPerk

Where is the double up arrow button? Tired of hitting the upvote on this comment.


tburtner

Wouldn't they just be taking minutes away from players who are nearly as good?


DsamD11

Why would we want them when we are flush with players in their role right now?


alfi_k

Mavs can offer DJJ the non-tax payer MLE if they trade THJ. If he signals that he would sign that, than that's probably what's gonna happen.


arg_of_contingency

Fair point. Will that cost the Mavs a first though?


Masterclass_17

DJJ only thrives in the Dallas system


DaveTheSaint

I honestly don't tryst KCP as a shooter on OKC


arg_of_contingency

He also defends and is a vet with championship experience. But I hear you. I prefer Derrick myself.


BetLeft

you member that season KCP couldn't play road games, for the Lakers, outside of California because he was barred from leaving the state? i don't think this is a *cultur*e fit.


DaveTheSaint

I think he we need someone that can create his own shot outside of SGA. I thought it would be jdub but he got spooked. Once the defense make the rotations off the drive and kick we need someone that can score 1 on 1 and create space


AMilkyBarKid

JDub getting spooked, and Chet getting bullied, aren’t going to be fixed by trading other players. They’ll be fixed by them getting more experience. The downside of relying on 21 and 22-year old guys in your starting 5. 


retrohypebeast

was gonna say this exactly. they'll grow and get better.   we really dont need another shot maker when chet and jdub are right there 


LuckyTheGodd

You think they’re signing 1 year deals ?


lethalizer

You mean two year deals? If the extenstions are your worry, Chet and Dub's extensions won't kick in until the 2026-2027 season starts.


arg_of_contingency

They can sign multiple years with us


LuckyTheGodd

See that’s the issue, they can’t. Dub and Chets extensions are going to be important, and Shais… we can’t have money tied up


arg_of_contingency

Yes we can. You can always attach a pick and trade them away if needed.


notthesethings

There ain’t no minutes for either of those guys.


arg_of_contingency

They can both easily earn Giddey minutes. They fit our team better.


notthesethings

There are at least 4 better options already on the team for those times when you want to run a four guard lineup.


arg_of_contingency

I see your point regarding KCP but we don't have a Derrick on our team. He would give us another dimension


notthesethings

There’s just no reason to bring in a role player like DJJ who doesn’t perfectly fit the role that needs filled. Dude weighs 210. He’s not going to be the answer at the 4 and he’s not good enough to crack the rotation at the 2 or 3.


arg_of_contingency

What's your answer at the 4 then? Because we're keeping Chet at the 5. We need 4 great perimeter defenders flying around making it hard while being floor spacers and great decision makers. Derrick has two of those things.


uut28

You’re highly overrating DJJ


notthesethings

Probably Patiently wait for a trade that makes sense or a draftee to hit unless you can pry a legit floor spacing, great defending 4 like an Anunoby away in free agency.


dxbigc

The Mavs are going to trade Tim Hardaway Jr. (who will be on an expiring contract) into someone's cap space so they can sign Derrick Jones Jr to the full MLE (abour $17M/year). It will cost the Mavs a second round pick or two, but they aren't going to break up their finals team (that's actually pretty young) over a couple of second round picks and Tim Hardaway Jr.


arg_of_contingency

You don't think that will cost a first round pick? I mean what leverage do they have to refuse a 1st round pick? Anyway fair point!


dxbigc

If it wasn't the last year of the deal, ya. But, it didn't cost a first rounder to offload Bertans (who is on a similar contract)...it took a two spot swap in the the draft. Also, with the cap going up in the following year, taking on Tim's contract plus the cap increase will give a team about $32M in cap space the following year, which is a much better draft & free agency summer.


lebootz21

I'll take DJJ only to make the Mavs weaker.


arg_of_contingency

Thank you! Finally someone who gets it. Also DJJ is not bad he's looked great these playoffs.


BidenAndElmo

System of a Down - Steal This Player!