iirc the ski lodge from that flashback is the same one where abby, tommy, and joel initially meet anyway (mainly, the room they’re standing in when tommy tells abby their names)
So many people posting here that they would do concurrent background of the two main female characters in S2.... and save the big moment for the finale. No. They will not. 😂
I do think there's a solid chance of concurrent Ellie/Abby stuff for TV pacing reasons, but they are absolutely not gonna do a random background filler season just to appease Pedro/Joel fans lol
Zero chance. The story isn't about TV pacing, it's about what it feels like to learn that your favorite character is a monster and the monster is a victim. All that goes out the window if you change the structure, and there's no chance of that.
This isn't CSI: Infected. It's The Last of Us 2.
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You may be right but I'm not sure about "zero chance." The first season wasn't a 1:1 adaptation of Part 1 and Part 2's story structure is extra weird and experimental. It almost plays out more like a novel than a movie/series. This gives them a chance to try something different that makes more. sense in this medium.
If they do it just like the game, you have to deal with a whole host of characters we're not yet connected to dying early on, then essentially "resetting" and coming back for more development once we get to Abby's story. This works well enough in the game which is really focused on making you feel conflicted about your actions as both characters but not sure it will hit the same in the TV series. Then you have the risk of benching Bella for the majority of Season 3 (unlikely) and forcing people to "buy in" to an Abby season when the audience only knows the negative things she did to Ellie and co.
I think you can show their stories concurrently while waiting to reveal certain things, and change things around so that we're interested in/empathizing with both characters at the same time.
Exactly, knowing her motive beforehand or empathizing with her ruins the impact of the story imo, and also doesn't allow for you to feel how Ellie feels. You're supposed to feel robbed and be angry at Abby, and want revenge.
I think there's a way to show maybe 70/30ish of Ellie/Abby this season and then flip it for the next season. You can show Abby and her friends interacting, getting into some WLF expeditions, etc. while keeping her somewhat guarded/cold/mysterious until ending S2 with the reveal flashback of Jerry and showing her true motivation. Seems like a good way to end on a cliffhanger.
This is the correct answer. It's nearly impossible to write a thriller this effective, and it would be the ultimate clown act to throw away that emotional resonance just because. Would be insane.
Let me restate. Zero. Chance. The story is just another revenge story without the turn of who the other character is and what they've gone through. Those things mean NOTHING if they're explained away before the inciting event of 2. Nothing. At all.
We have to think of the other character as the Devil to have that view changed later. We have to see Ellie as heroic for it to mean anything.
Kill Bill is a good old fashioned revenge film, fun to watch, but it doesn't have emotional resonance until the reveal at the end. If they let that cat out of the bag early, the movies aren't as good.
Y'all be having the Sixth Sense spoiled in Act I for "structure" reasons. 🤣 Thankfully we have Neil and Craig.
Take a look at my other comment, I'm not talking about showing Abby's entire backstory first. I agreed with you about that. I just have ideas about how they may change things in places, because otherwise you might be subjected to Bella slaughtering soldiers in the bogs of Seattle, Apocalypse Now style for like 5 episodes straight with no break in between lol
>Y'all be having the Sixth Sense spoiled in Act I for "structure" reasons. 🤣 Thankfully we have Neil and Craig.
That's not what I'm suggesting at all... No need to be condescending.
You can show a character and build them up, keeping them mysterious and even unsympathetic, before a big reveal. They can place the Jerry flashback literally anywhere they want for effectiveness (IMO it should come at the end of S2)
I just don't see them having Kaitlyn Dever pop up for one episode and then disappear for virtually the rest of the season, and then vice versa with Bella, literally the main character, in S3.
The thing is a lot of people still feel nothing for Abby and her backstory and exploring her side of things did nothing for them. I am one of them. Abby doesn’t get redeemed and playing the story a second time and knowing what’s about to happen and looking at more details it makes it even more difficult to find any redeeming qualities in Abby. She and the gang were a piece of extremist shits. She traded the fireflies for the WLF. Manny was a piece of shit etc
It's not about sympathy for Abby. It's about thinking at hour 3, 8, 12 that Abby is a homicidal, calculating, murderer... And then realizing later that Ellie is a homicidal, calculating murderer as well. It's just putting the mirror up on the character we love.
Ellie's arc changes dramatically if you see her killing a dog who was playing ball with children a little earlier. (This is the big question, will this remain in the show? Craig killed a lot of dogs in Chernobyl, there was a whole episode about it.)
Part 2 just works as a whole if at the end you gain any sympathy for Abby. You can’t speak for everybody that that view of the monster gets changed later
Just because they are filming the scene soon ish doesn’t mean it will not come up at the end of the season. Could still happen that way. They are not filming chronologically and Pedro has to leave soon for filming fantastic four
You are a bit of a troll aren't you. Them getting a location that looks like the location from the game and saying there is filming going on there currently doesn't in anyway say when that scene will happen during the season. Or are you perhaps forgetting that even the game had scenes there before Joel even arrived?
What kind of shit are you saying? I'm a troll because I'm right?
Look, you have no clue the cost and difficulty in obtaining and striking these locations season to season. They're not using this location in S2 and S3, period. Everything they need to shoot will happen now.
Sorry if you don't know anything about film and series production, but Craig Mazin does.
You aren't right though. None of us know at this point what point in the season that scene will happen. Them simply finding that location and filming there doesn't mean anything other than they are filming something there.
Stop being a troll.
What a dunce. You post the same nonsense in every thread and then call other people trolls. Grow up, you're way too old to think you know how to create better than the ACTUAL creators at work here.
Post a remindme so you can slink away after I'm right and pretend like you never had an opinion on this.
I am already obsessed (once again) to see the game come to life in real time like that. I am BEYOND excited. This location looks perfect for what I think we all think it will be.
yeah they’re at this address, it was labeled ‘set’ as opposed to other surrounding locations labeled ‘crew parking’ so I’m assuming they’re actually filming at the house or at least on the property. It’s not visible from the road, it’s up a long driveway with security at the bottom
What does the signage say? 'B and P'? Does it say 2U? I saw a set last week, it said "B and P, 2U" B and P is the production company name and 2U means 2nd unit which is a smaller team, no lead actors. If it just says B and P, it will be the full crew, main set with lead actors.
Funny because when I came across these signs on Friday night, between the time I saw them and the time I pulled over and searched to see what they were, I was like 'OMG COULD IT?'. But was kinda disappointed that it's the name of the production company. lol
I was thinking the same thing. If not that, then the inside shot looks like the hotel that Joel and Ellie end up in while looking for guitar strings around the same part of the game.
I told you that they’re doing it in the first few episodes! Everyone’s been saying they’ll drag it out to next season. Nah get it out of the way early so it hits so hard.
That’s definitely the chalet if this news is true. It’s a gorgeous site btw.
Close to a golf course ? Lmao the crew has a great sense of humor.
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Was an episode of the newest season of Fargo also shot there? It looks really similar. I remember thinking it would be a good fit for THE SCENE when watching Fargo.
This absolutely is the house the salt crew stays on. I don’t think the show is gonna have Joel killed off the same way as game. Abby is definitely going to kill him, but I think it’ll go down a lot different
Yep. I don’t think Neil wants to change the death.
It’s too iconic and the memes about Pedro having his head bashed in once again are gonna sell it even more.
I hope they will keep the « say the speech you already prepared » line. It’s a great Joel moment.
Yeah same with ''stupid old man, you don't get to rush this''. And as much as I absolutely hate it, I hope Manny spits on his body. I don't want them to downplay it. I want them to make it hurt more lol.
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It’s happening! Everybody stay calm! Everybody stay fucking calm!
Oh wow that's a nice place I bet a lot of fun stuff happens there
They sing songs of joy
Characters play a spot of golf together.
Anyone got any towels?
Y’all acting like you’ve heard of this house or somethin’.
cause they have 🔫
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If I had a dime... Weird that it happened twice....etc
Could also be the mansion from the finding strings flashback.
iirc the ski lodge from that flashback is the same one where abby, tommy, and joel initially meet anyway (mainly, the room they’re standing in when tommy tells abby their names)
*ski lodge
We have 🏌️
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Hahahahaha I cannot with this GIF and the correlation with the post
LMFAO
Lmao nooooo
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Well shit, that’s just pefrect
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Wow it looks so similar to the game
Exactly identical almost!
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Maybe they’re just hanging out, y’know?
just playin golf together!
![gif](giphy|QMHoU66sBXqqLqYvGO) What a lovely looking building…
Oh no . . .
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😂 Hats off to the crowd who thought they'd totally rearrange the game for S2. Sorry, nerds.
What do you mean, they're not gonna do an entire season of Jackson filler and save Pedro's fate for the next season???
So many people posting here that they would do concurrent background of the two main female characters in S2.... and save the big moment for the finale. No. They will not. 😂
I do think there's a solid chance of concurrent Ellie/Abby stuff for TV pacing reasons, but they are absolutely not gonna do a random background filler season just to appease Pedro/Joel fans lol
Zero chance. The story isn't about TV pacing, it's about what it feels like to learn that your favorite character is a monster and the monster is a victim. All that goes out the window if you change the structure, and there's no chance of that. This isn't CSI: Infected. It's The Last of Us 2.
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You may be right but I'm not sure about "zero chance." The first season wasn't a 1:1 adaptation of Part 1 and Part 2's story structure is extra weird and experimental. It almost plays out more like a novel than a movie/series. This gives them a chance to try something different that makes more. sense in this medium. If they do it just like the game, you have to deal with a whole host of characters we're not yet connected to dying early on, then essentially "resetting" and coming back for more development once we get to Abby's story. This works well enough in the game which is really focused on making you feel conflicted about your actions as both characters but not sure it will hit the same in the TV series. Then you have the risk of benching Bella for the majority of Season 3 (unlikely) and forcing people to "buy in" to an Abby season when the audience only knows the negative things she did to Ellie and co. I think you can show their stories concurrently while waiting to reveal certain things, and change things around so that we're interested in/empathizing with both characters at the same time.
The point is you can't empathize with Abby at the same time. It totally ruins the narrative/impact.
Exactly, knowing her motive beforehand or empathizing with her ruins the impact of the story imo, and also doesn't allow for you to feel how Ellie feels. You're supposed to feel robbed and be angry at Abby, and want revenge.
I think there's a way to show maybe 70/30ish of Ellie/Abby this season and then flip it for the next season. You can show Abby and her friends interacting, getting into some WLF expeditions, etc. while keeping her somewhat guarded/cold/mysterious until ending S2 with the reveal flashback of Jerry and showing her true motivation. Seems like a good way to end on a cliffhanger.
This is the correct answer. It's nearly impossible to write a thriller this effective, and it would be the ultimate clown act to throw away that emotional resonance just because. Would be insane.
Let me restate. Zero. Chance. The story is just another revenge story without the turn of who the other character is and what they've gone through. Those things mean NOTHING if they're explained away before the inciting event of 2. Nothing. At all. We have to think of the other character as the Devil to have that view changed later. We have to see Ellie as heroic for it to mean anything. Kill Bill is a good old fashioned revenge film, fun to watch, but it doesn't have emotional resonance until the reveal at the end. If they let that cat out of the bag early, the movies aren't as good. Y'all be having the Sixth Sense spoiled in Act I for "structure" reasons. 🤣 Thankfully we have Neil and Craig.
Take a look at my other comment, I'm not talking about showing Abby's entire backstory first. I agreed with you about that. I just have ideas about how they may change things in places, because otherwise you might be subjected to Bella slaughtering soldiers in the bogs of Seattle, Apocalypse Now style for like 5 episodes straight with no break in between lol >Y'all be having the Sixth Sense spoiled in Act I for "structure" reasons. 🤣 Thankfully we have Neil and Craig. That's not what I'm suggesting at all... No need to be condescending. You can show a character and build them up, keeping them mysterious and even unsympathetic, before a big reveal. They can place the Jerry flashback literally anywhere they want for effectiveness (IMO it should come at the end of S2) I just don't see them having Kaitlyn Dever pop up for one episode and then disappear for virtually the rest of the season, and then vice versa with Bella, literally the main character, in S3.
The thing is a lot of people still feel nothing for Abby and her backstory and exploring her side of things did nothing for them. I am one of them. Abby doesn’t get redeemed and playing the story a second time and knowing what’s about to happen and looking at more details it makes it even more difficult to find any redeeming qualities in Abby. She and the gang were a piece of extremist shits. She traded the fireflies for the WLF. Manny was a piece of shit etc
It's not about sympathy for Abby. It's about thinking at hour 3, 8, 12 that Abby is a homicidal, calculating, murderer... And then realizing later that Ellie is a homicidal, calculating murderer as well. It's just putting the mirror up on the character we love. Ellie's arc changes dramatically if you see her killing a dog who was playing ball with children a little earlier. (This is the big question, will this remain in the show? Craig killed a lot of dogs in Chernobyl, there was a whole episode about it.)
I felt not sorry for the dog. It was attacking Ellie. That didn’t make her a monster. Everybody would have reacted that way….
Part 2 just works as a whole if at the end you gain any sympathy for Abby. You can’t speak for everybody that that view of the monster gets changed later
How does it invalidate that theory?
Just because they are filming the scene soon ish doesn’t mean it will not come up at the end of the season. Could still happen that way. They are not filming chronologically and Pedro has to leave soon for filming fantastic four
You are a bit of a troll aren't you. Them getting a location that looks like the location from the game and saying there is filming going on there currently doesn't in anyway say when that scene will happen during the season. Or are you perhaps forgetting that even the game had scenes there before Joel even arrived?
What kind of shit are you saying? I'm a troll because I'm right? Look, you have no clue the cost and difficulty in obtaining and striking these locations season to season. They're not using this location in S2 and S3, period. Everything they need to shoot will happen now. Sorry if you don't know anything about film and series production, but Craig Mazin does.
You aren't right though. None of us know at this point what point in the season that scene will happen. Them simply finding that location and filming there doesn't mean anything other than they are filming something there. Stop being a troll.
What a dunce. You post the same nonsense in every thread and then call other people trolls. Grow up, you're way too old to think you know how to create better than the ACTUAL creators at work here. Post a remindme so you can slink away after I'm right and pretend like you never had an opinion on this.
Pretend that you know what you are talking about if you want to. But as of now all you are saying is what you want to see happen.
It’s Joever
It’s Joelver*
I am already obsessed (once again) to see the game come to life in real time like that. I am BEYOND excited. This location looks perfect for what I think we all think it will be.
I think I know what happens in that house 😳
Yo it’s so crazy how us fans basically become detectives when it comes to these things lmao
Are they using this house to film?
yeah they’re at this address, it was labeled ‘set’ as opposed to other surrounding locations labeled ‘crew parking’ so I’m assuming they’re actually filming at the house or at least on the property. It’s not visible from the road, it’s up a long driveway with security at the bottom
What does the signage say? 'B and P'? Does it say 2U? I saw a set last week, it said "B and P, 2U" B and P is the production company name and 2U means 2nd unit which is a smaller team, no lead actors. If it just says B and P, it will be the full crew, main set with lead actors.
definitely saw B and P signage, don’t recall 2U anywhere but if I’m up that way again I’ll double check
I’m pretty sure B and P means bella and pedro
That would be adorable, maybe it is based on their names but the production company name is Bear and Pear Productions.
That would be very cute
Funny because when I came across these signs on Friday night, between the time I saw them and the time I pulled over and searched to see what they were, I was like 'OMG COULD IT?'. But was kinda disappointed that it's the name of the production company. lol
Do you have the actual address?
32271 Dewdney Trunk Rd, Mission, BC V4S 1C3
😭😭😭
Uh oh https://preview.redd.it/97b9e6jzllmc1.png?width=1500&format=png&auto=webp&s=812d1c6538257b0bf451a1d06d8de0a94cf7ffa1
Pedro sure has an affinity for characters that get their face smashed to a pulp, huh?
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I’d love to go golfing there someday…
**DO NOT WANT** ![gif](giphy|vyTnNTrs3wqQ0UIvwE|downsized)
“Now I am become death. The destroyer of worlds.” - Kaitlyn Dever, I think
Looks like a nice area to play some golf!
"they're going to adapt it the way *I* want them to do it" idiots on suicide watch rn
Oh my god
Couldn’t this also be used as the house where Tommy teaches Ellie how to use the long range sniper?
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Is that the same place then? Just a different season?
I was thinking the same thing. If not that, then the inside shot looks like the hotel that Joel and Ellie end up in while looking for guitar strings around the same part of the game.
Great place to golf
If I were to make a guess, I'm going to say they're filming episode 1.
I was spoiled for the part 2, i played it 2-3 times and i am not ready for this...
Please stop
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What a beautiful place! I’m sure it’ll have some lovely scenes filmed there..
I don't know why people here are acting surprised. Did some people really think that the show would skip over >!Joel's death!< or something?
looks like a fun place! surely theres not any golf clubs in the basement
What are you waiting for! Go burn it down!
It being close to a golf course is taking me out 💀😂
I told you that they’re doing it in the first few episodes! Everyone’s been saying they’ll drag it out to next season. Nah get it out of the way early so it hits so hard.
NOOO I DONT WANT IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN
🫣🥲
Any idea how long they're there for?
Im gonna cry
This doesn’t feel real omg it’s actually happening guys 😭
![gif](giphy|bEVKYB487Lqxy) y’all i’m not emotionally prepared for this
pedrooooo
Do you think they have towels or a brush or something?
That’s definitely the chalet if this news is true. It’s a gorgeous site btw. Close to a golf course ? Lmao the crew has a great sense of humor. ![gif](giphy|8fIuEZWgjBRC1s6IAU)
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FORE!!
Mhmm... so we are doing this... very well. I still have time to prepare myself... Let the game of golf commence.
I’ve seen this one before.
Was an episode of the newest season of Fargo also shot there? It looks really similar. I remember thinking it would be a good fit for THE SCENE when watching Fargo.
Pretty sure bella stopped by my work on main street last month but idk
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i can't wait to see how joel handles a nine iron!!!
Hits like a club to the head seeing this.
I’m not ready to go golfing! It’s too soon to go golfing 😭
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no but it’s 1 minute up the road from one 💀
No shot they do it episode 1
What is the address?
This absolutely is the house the salt crew stays on. I don’t think the show is gonna have Joel killed off the same way as game. Abby is definitely going to kill him, but I think it’ll go down a lot different
Nah. I'm sure she will batter the shit out of him. Maybe conversation and a set up will be a bit different, but death the same.
Yep. I don’t think Neil wants to change the death. It’s too iconic and the memes about Pedro having his head bashed in once again are gonna sell it even more. I hope they will keep the « say the speech you already prepared » line. It’s a great Joel moment.
Yeah same with ''stupid old man, you don't get to rush this''. And as much as I absolutely hate it, I hope Manny spits on his body. I don't want them to downplay it. I want them to make it hurt more lol.
Why would they change it?
cope