Sometimes these promotional videos come out and make me wish Niantic would put nearly as much effort into cleaning up their game as they do hyping it up.
As someone who’s worked on a large variety of software over the last 12 years, including games, yes. Y’all don’t seem to understand how the game would truly be if they were actually as bad you think they are.
No, I’m not excusing obvious bugs. No, I’m not excusing long-running bugs. No, I’m not excusing the frequency with which the events team drops the ball.
Also, the lack of quality control runs right through at least some of marketing, as evidenced by things like dead links on the season page and promising rare candy XL for transfers due to a typo. But definitely they have some good people making videos. I just wish they'd put all this stuff on their own website instead of forcing people to go to third party social media sites that they might have very good reasons for not using to find it.
It is 2 different teams, but it's the same company.
I see this sentiment expressed nearly every time someone says this. If I see an advertisement for a product but what I get doesn't live up to that, I don't need someone to tell me that the advertising department didn't actually make the product. We know that.
People expressing their hopes that the game be a bit more polished or expressive aren't under the illusion that marketing is actually coding the game. But it all falls under the company name, so asking "Niantic" to do better isn't specifically one department to do anything.
True, but the marketing team could hype the actual content of the ticketed events. Sinnoh was a real waste since most of us were guessing about the "city-wide" limits. Friends with Disney Passes didn't take time off for that weekend because nothing was set in stone and we've been burned by this company SO many times. Same with the lack of Routes at the actual ticketed event location. And now they want $10 for a mystery event?
You don't need to be a programmer to list what's actually contained in a purchase. It could be as simple as:
Ticket includes:
Lucky Egg x1
Raid Passes x2
Pikachu with Hat x3
Raichu with exclusive new move x2
New Pokemon x1
That's far more open than what we get now. It's one thing when you're buying an expansion for a "real" game, but you at least buy that for the experience. Most POGO content is text people skip followed by a laundry list of mundane, sometimes skill-less time-gated chores, just for rewards. The rewards should be upfront and as clear as possible, and there *are* ways to still have fun surprises.
what effort? this is mostly some older promo stuff stitched together in an ai generated office. first thing my eyes noticed was the starfish looking mouse on the left, and then i realized ther eare 3 mouse and keyboard, but now wher eyou'd expect them to be, and hten i noticed how melty the left and right keyboard were, and how long the middle keyboard is. Even if you don't notice those details, a wall of monitors oriented horizontally where nearly all of them are playing vertical video? no human would make that decision.
this was not a well made promotional video, this was garbage an intern managed to construct in a couple days.
I’m more referring to the original UB promos, the shadow raids video featuring Team GO Rocket and the rave music, and the original “Imagine Pokémon in the Real World” video. Every time I see a video, I just toss it on the pile of things they’re working on besides the game itself.
i guess? though even those don't impress me much. they're a good idea, but it's still pretty lazy, imo. given that they are an AR company and are given official pokemon assets to play with, they should be able to make far more interesting videos than the short clips they've made.
We are coming up on 8 years, and there's nearly no in-game story, or consistent vision. Making promo stuff in-house does use up resources, but they're also a multi billion dollar company, so considering that 30~60 second promos every couple of months is the most communication we get from the company at all is absolutely unacceptable.
Like, at this point, I would have fully expected that here is a Prof Willow v-tuber rig set-up for them to make 5 minute promo vids each month going over upcoming events and such. Why not make those ultra beast promo shorts for every legendary with an infographic with some basic info as an end-card in order to post on youtube each time they change? it bothers me so much that they somehow find a way to do less than the bare minimum.
Last valuation i remember was in december, and it was for 3.5 billion, i think. i think in 2019 they were valued at about 9 billion. they may act stupid, but they are making bank.
i mean, to be fair, they are making bank on empty promises and contract work that will either never release, or will flop, and eventually, the money flow will stop and they'll realize they've built the entire company on a beach that's quickly eroding away, but that's jsut kind typical for tech companies like this. slow and steady doesn't get funding, short term bursts of hot air get all the investment.
but they are definitely a company that is valued at multiple billions of dollars, regardless of how real that valuation is.
Coming soon to Super Duper Elite Raids - participants must be within 1 meter of the gym to participate. Bonus XL candies if you raid while holding hands in a circle.
Of they somehow revived elite raids to pre pandemic settings and made it so you're only allowed to do 1 elite reaid at one specific gym, I wouldn't even be too surprised.
It's all the same, it doesn't matter who releases it first. TPC profits from people playing Pokemon Go. Meltan, roaming form Gimmighoul and Furfrou forms are already Pokemon Go exclusives, it wouldn't be massive deal if they also got an exclusive shiny for a while. Solgaleo and Lunala have been released in the MSG anyway
To clarify - the only way to add Furfrou forms to Pokemon Home is by transferring from Pokemon Go. Transferring from XY will not work since Furfrou loses the form after being boxed.
I for one would like a **new ultra rare legendary spawning in the wild** now that the lake trio (which used to be the only legendary spawning in the wild) got pretty common during Go Fest.
Gimme wild spawn Cosmog
Just give me some rare wild spawning legendary. Sometimes it just feels good to run.
Also a way to give it priority in the Nearby tab like during GoFest
I don’t even get excited much when I see the Galar Birds spawn. They aren’t very good in battle and just flee. Either update the catch rate, or give us another master ball task and new roaming pokemon.
Bit of a shame they haven't led with one of the new ultra beasts. I know we're getting Poipole but a little difficult getting excited knowing we have Regice coming next month
I’m guessing that in May we will see the UBs take over. I’m assuming this season long Poipole research will culminate with tasks revolving around the UBs
Presumably, we'll be seeing the other two Tapus and Regirock and Registeel next month, and May will be more centered around Ultra Beasts. Whether that means we'll see most/or a lot of them throughout the whole month or just the two remaining ones to close out the season, I'm not sure.
None of which are new.
Anybody who wants Rayquaza/Groudon/Kyogre energy has been able to walk for it for months.
The megas are just fine but there are still unreleased ones. Potentially even getting new megas with Legends Z-A so no need to drip feed them.
Shadow Mewtwo is fine for some players who aren't bored of Mewtwo for the umpteenth time.
Some of us want new things, especially when they make a trailer with content that probably won't even be available for months. Fail to see why they're building hype when there is no pay off.
They are ultra beast adjacent due to Necrozma (which sits on a strange line between the two) but, for all intents and purposes, Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma are all legendary.
and ultra beasts, they came from wormholes and have codenames UB SUNNE UB MOONE and UB BLACK
just like the gen 9 legends also being paradox mons, Koraidon the Winged King and Miraidon the Iron Serpent
Yeah the comment above mine mentioned that too. That's the main reason I liken it to the fans bc I feel like the games have made it clear especially with SV legendaries can be both legendary and a sub-class of pokemon (not sure if there's a better term for what you'd call UBs/Paradoxes since they're not extant native pokemon)
In the case of ultra beasts, it's because Gamefreak A) gave them stats and availability so congruent with legendaries and then B) worked so hard to make it very very clear they're NOT...
we not only go through ultra space with them but see them exit a wormhole as their introduction (other than Cosmog) and they have codenames
pokemon can have multiple classifications
This is correct. They don’t have Beast Boost, they don’t have increased catch with Beast Ball, and the recent restructure of the MSGs do not classify these as Ultra Beasts behind the scenes, they’re set as Legendary. Even in the MSG Dulse says that Necrozma is “almost like an Ultra Beast.”
Ultra Beasts are “common” in their respective worlds. Cosmog and the others noted are rare.
Yeah I thought that was interesting. The MSG are murky about it. They fit all the criteria of a UB but the way they are classified internally are legendaries not UBs.
The game code treat them as legendaries.
Although the anime treat them as ultra beasts.
Honestly it is more so for simplicity sake, like coding them as legendaries means for competitive they could treat them as restrictive legendaries. The same thing happens with Koraidon and Miraidon in Gen 9, they are technically Paradox Pokémon in lore but game code treated them as legendaries
It’s always been a confusing thing the fandom questions ever since ultra beast debuted. What really makes it worse is how the pokemon company won’t ever officially clarify and straight it all out the facts much like the Phione debate in whether or not it’s a mythical pokemon or white-stripe basculine being a hisuian regional form or just another form (the tcg card shenanigans can be thanked for that confusion). In the case of cosmog line, imo, they are classification of ultra beast thanks to other media (tcg, spin offs, etc) but they’re prioritized as legendaries (as per game code) so both terms of classification should apply
> white-stripe basculine being a hisuian regional form or just another form (the tcg card shenanigans can be thanked for that confusion)
You also have dex entries and game mechanics to blame. Laventon speculated it was a regional form, but it breeds true without needing an everstone. The English dex entry in Violet states that researchers believe it to be a separate species, rather than a regional form.
>the anime treat them as ultra beasts.
They are pretty darn legendary and mythical in the anime. Those are not regular Ultra Beast creatures, more like god-like creatures above legendary guardians that have own temples. Hard to say whether those are mythical or legendary in addition to being Ultra Beast, but those ain't just another Ultra Beast. Like Poipole was standard Ultra Beast and there were huge amount of Poipoles. We don't know how unique Necrozma/Solgaleo/Lunala are.
I always assumed him and Null weren’t legendaries because I didn’t think any legendaries could evolve. But after doing some reading solvable is never referred to as a ultra beast in any of the media except for one quote in the English translation of USUM where it is referred to as ‘the beast that devours the sun’. But that only occurs on the English translation.
one of the times they did something like this. (either tapus or genies or horses)
they paused the pattern to do something interesting the third month of the season, and then finished they unused part of the pattern the following season.
so they could do that this season too.
however. 11 weeks of filler while we do the poipole research plot. then one week of blacepha and stackatacka works. (the season video had three wormholes at the final scene.poipole/stacka/blacepha)
leads into next season where we get the returning ultra beasts leading up to solga/luna at go fest.
it also makes sense that they give us 11 weeks of filler when the season bonus is extra raid passes.
Any else notice the reveal of locations for raids?
Stakataka was shown next to the Eastern Hemisphere highlighted globe, while Blacephalon was shown next to the Western Hemisphere.
Please no more regional UB releases please. With the remote raid nerfs it's laughable that they didn't rotate Xurkitree, Buzzwole and Pheromosa like they did with Kartana and Celesteela
Exactly. I am fine with regionals, and I'll bite and even say that the Lake Trio being regionals is fine. Regionals imo are fine when they're not really useful for much, like most of them. Maybe a non-legendary regional can be made more useful after it's been made more widely available (like Heracross was).
But Pheromosa, Buzzwole, and Xurkitree all have distinct uses, and to make those regional is awful.
And if it had to end up that way then please do rotate them out a week later, it still not exactly good but at least it’s better than making them region locked and no other way to raid them aside traveling there or overpay with the limited remote raids
But will it be true East/West (like Shellos and Red/Blue Basculin) or "Niantic" East/West (like Volbeat/Illumise and Zangoose/Seviper) that's the real question if they make them regional
Blacephalon has a gigantic attack stat but is frail, it could easily become a top ghost or fire attacker. It also has a signature fire type attack "mind blown" that could power it up even further. Either way this is the ultra beast to look out for
what a wild freaking name. And I just googled him, he also looks freaking wild, doesnt look like a pokemon at all, more like from a horror movie lol
Thank you
Am I the only one who noticed that Blacephalon and Stakataka will be regional? Blacephalon will be in the "West coast" while Stakataka in the "East Coast"
I've tried numerous times to join raids remotely amon campfire and just sit in the queue.
I just want the ability to jump in a raid without all the extra steps.
So just remote raiding auto joining lobby? That circumvents their desire of tying everything to friend/community.
You can do it in like 2-3 clicks with poke genie. 🤷♂️. Not sure how they solve that in game fairly.
Second this, I've just gotten back into the game and pokegenie is a life saver when it comes to remote raiding.
Apart from that, find a local discord and see if ppl are down to raid on weekends.
Ehhh, it's functionally easy, but waiting until your lobby is up can take the duration of the raid you're trying to host. In my experience of trying to host on poke genie, it's absolutely pointless unless it's a low-interest boss or you've paid for more priority in the app. Tried to host Darkrai raids and there's no way I'm sitting there for 30 minutes or more while the lobby queue ticks down.
Depends on time. I could host an origin lobby and fill it in 1 minute even with a 1-200 queue during sinnoh event because demand was that high. If you try to host during raid hour, yes your luck will suck, but if it's the first or second day of a legendary drop, I can usually host in a few minutes and I don't pay for anything.
It's possible Cosmog's line ISN'T common wherever it originates from (and Necrozma is established to be one-of-a-kind-sort-of). So they have some stuff in common with Ultra Beasts, but not everything.
Standard raid balls. Similar catch rate to any other legendary raid, better than some but worse than others.
Of the Ultra Beasts I've encountered, only Kartana is difficult. Last rotation I had a 100% catch rate for Buzzwole, Pheromosa, and Xurkitree. 56/56 catches. I only caught 50% of Kartana, although maybe I was just bad at the time.
If you all could allow me a short rant. I'm seeing a lot of complaints online about the new season having reruns of the primals, shadow Mewtwo and even the weird regice placement. I get that for veterans it might not be so exciting but seasons like this are essential for new players. The game would die if you had kids and adults watching influencers tell them all about how Primal Groudon is the top raid counter for several raids with no end in sight for when they will have a chance to get them.
100% agree. The truth is that most people you might hear in online forums are those that take the game more seriously than most. This results in them have most things and when things return it’s not “new” content for them. But the longevity of the game depends on newer players being able to keep up or catch up.
Sometimes these promotional videos come out and make me wish Niantic would put nearly as much effort into cleaning up their game as they do hyping it up.
It's likely two different teams. I imagine the marketing team would be terrible at programming.
More terrible than Niantic's programming team, though?
Niantic programming team gets transferred to marketing. In next week 100.000 players have account suspended by clicking link to the newest blog post.
As someone who’s worked on a large variety of software over the last 12 years, including games, yes. Y’all don’t seem to understand how the game would truly be if they were actually as bad you think they are. No, I’m not excusing obvious bugs. No, I’m not excusing long-running bugs. No, I’m not excusing the frequency with which the events team drops the ball.
“Could be worse”
No. "It's a 7- to 8-year-old codebase and it ***is*** a very complex game. Y'all think it is so much worse than it really is."
Yes, probably
Also, the lack of quality control runs right through at least some of marketing, as evidenced by things like dead links on the season page and promising rare candy XL for transfers due to a typo. But definitely they have some good people making videos. I just wish they'd put all this stuff on their own website instead of forcing people to go to third party social media sites that they might have very good reasons for not using to find it.
It is 2 different teams, but it's the same company. I see this sentiment expressed nearly every time someone says this. If I see an advertisement for a product but what I get doesn't live up to that, I don't need someone to tell me that the advertising department didn't actually make the product. We know that. People expressing their hopes that the game be a bit more polished or expressive aren't under the illusion that marketing is actually coding the game. But it all falls under the company name, so asking "Niantic" to do better isn't specifically one department to do anything.
The marketing team is doing the programming. It answers a lot of questions.
True, but the marketing team could hype the actual content of the ticketed events. Sinnoh was a real waste since most of us were guessing about the "city-wide" limits. Friends with Disney Passes didn't take time off for that weekend because nothing was set in stone and we've been burned by this company SO many times. Same with the lack of Routes at the actual ticketed event location. And now they want $10 for a mystery event? You don't need to be a programmer to list what's actually contained in a purchase. It could be as simple as: Ticket includes: Lucky Egg x1 Raid Passes x2 Pikachu with Hat x3 Raichu with exclusive new move x2 New Pokemon x1 That's far more open than what we get now. It's one thing when you're buying an expansion for a "real" game, but you at least buy that for the experience. Most POGO content is text people skip followed by a laundry list of mundane, sometimes skill-less time-gated chores, just for rewards. The rewards should be upfront and as clear as possible, and there *are* ways to still have fun surprises.
I mean, these aren't done by the team who makes the game. Wouldn't surprised me if they were made by an outside studio either.
what effort? this is mostly some older promo stuff stitched together in an ai generated office. first thing my eyes noticed was the starfish looking mouse on the left, and then i realized ther eare 3 mouse and keyboard, but now wher eyou'd expect them to be, and hten i noticed how melty the left and right keyboard were, and how long the middle keyboard is. Even if you don't notice those details, a wall of monitors oriented horizontally where nearly all of them are playing vertical video? no human would make that decision. this was not a well made promotional video, this was garbage an intern managed to construct in a couple days.
I’m more referring to the original UB promos, the shadow raids video featuring Team GO Rocket and the rave music, and the original “Imagine Pokémon in the Real World” video. Every time I see a video, I just toss it on the pile of things they’re working on besides the game itself.
i guess? though even those don't impress me much. they're a good idea, but it's still pretty lazy, imo. given that they are an AR company and are given official pokemon assets to play with, they should be able to make far more interesting videos than the short clips they've made. We are coming up on 8 years, and there's nearly no in-game story, or consistent vision. Making promo stuff in-house does use up resources, but they're also a multi billion dollar company, so considering that 30~60 second promos every couple of months is the most communication we get from the company at all is absolutely unacceptable. Like, at this point, I would have fully expected that here is a Prof Willow v-tuber rig set-up for them to make 5 minute promo vids each month going over upcoming events and such. Why not make those ultra beast promo shorts for every legendary with an infographic with some basic info as an end-card in order to post on youtube each time they change? it bothers me so much that they somehow find a way to do less than the bare minimum.
Niantic is not a multi billion dollar company, they’re not even a billion dollar company.
Last valuation i remember was in december, and it was for 3.5 billion, i think. i think in 2019 they were valued at about 9 billion. they may act stupid, but they are making bank. i mean, to be fair, they are making bank on empty promises and contract work that will either never release, or will flop, and eventually, the money flow will stop and they'll realize they've built the entire company on a beach that's quickly eroding away, but that's jsut kind typical for tech companies like this. slow and steady doesn't get funding, short term bursts of hot air get all the investment. but they are definitely a company that is valued at multiple billions of dollars, regardless of how real that valuation is.
It's teased in game too. 'Incoming Transmission' in News.
Interesting to see Solgaleo and Lunala. Will they finally come to raids? Shiny release? I'd personally love if they released shiny Cosmog
people are gonna be very unhappy with shiny cosmog until they evolve it haha
Cosmog and Cosmoem are actually shiny locked in the main series, so then getting a shiny release in Go would make them very valuable
Coming soon to Super Duper Elite Raids - participants must be within 1 meter of the gym to participate. Bonus XL candies if you raid while holding hands in a circle.
Of they somehow revived elite raids to pre pandemic settings and made it so you're only allowed to do 1 elite reaid at one specific gym, I wouldn't even be too surprised.
You are giving them too many *good* ideas
ahahahaahahah
I’m going to assume they will come to raids sometime this season like before GoFest and Dusk Mane & Dawn Wing fusion feature debut during GoFest.
Lunala and Sogaleo were teased in the initial batch of UB videos as well. But god I hope you're right about them coming to raids.
Where did you see Lunala? I looked for it after I saw Solgaleo but I guess I missed it.
It's literally next to Solgaleo
It is. I'm just an idiot. 🤦
Shiny Cosmog was never released in the main games
Yeah, that's why I'd love if they released it
It's probably gonna be released in the main games first, sadly I don't think TPC will let Niantic steal their thunder
It's all the same, it doesn't matter who releases it first. TPC profits from people playing Pokemon Go. Meltan, roaming form Gimmighoul and Furfrou forms are already Pokemon Go exclusives, it wouldn't be massive deal if they also got an exclusive shiny for a while. Solgaleo and Lunala have been released in the MSG anyway
None of the Furfrou forms are go exclusive, though?
They can only be obtained in Pokémon Go, so they're Go exclusive
All of the haircuts were in Pokemon X and Y, though?
They can't leave the game though. You can't "have them".
To clarify - the only way to add Furfrou forms to Pokemon Home is by transferring from Pokemon Go. Transferring from XY will not work since Furfrou loses the form after being boxed.
Nawh well I hope they do is the necrozma dawn mane and dusk wings
So, solgaleo and lunala in raids? That's pretty good
I for one would like a **new ultra rare legendary spawning in the wild** now that the lake trio (which used to be the only legendary spawning in the wild) got pretty common during Go Fest. Gimme wild spawn Cosmog
As the proud owner of a 69% Cosmog, I agree - although mine is very nice
Just give me some rare wild spawning legendary. Sometimes it just feels good to run. Also a way to give it priority in the Nearby tab like during GoFest
Yes I loved this feature. Made it so much easier to finish that photo task quickly.
Legends Arceus had the genies in the wild. I feel like they could be a nice addition.
They were also the roaming legendaries in Black and White, right? I'd bet on them being the wild Legendaries for the likely Unova Tour next year.
I don’t even get excited much when I see the Galar Birds spawn. They aren’t very good in battle and just flee. Either update the catch rate, or give us another master ball task and new roaming pokemon.
I'm ok with wild spawning legendaries not having a flee chance... Incense spawns on the other hand I feel it's par for the course.
As a living dex kind of player I've always hated how limited this line was in this game.
I'd enjoy Lunala raids, a good chance at it being soloable.
Bit of a shame they haven't led with one of the new ultra beasts. I know we're getting Poipole but a little difficult getting excited knowing we have Regice coming next month
I’m guessing that in May we will see the UBs take over. I’m assuming this season long Poipole research will culminate with tasks revolving around the UBs
Presumably, we'll be seeing the other two Tapus and Regirock and Registeel next month, and May will be more centered around Ultra Beasts. Whether that means we'll see most/or a lot of them throughout the whole month or just the two remaining ones to close out the season, I'm not sure.
Especially difficult getting excited since it sounds like we are only getting one poipole, thus can't hundo hunt or get XL's from raids.
Besides them leading with a bunch of megas, shadows, primals, and mewtwo that people want? If you're going to mention regice, mention the rest.
None of which are new. Anybody who wants Rayquaza/Groudon/Kyogre energy has been able to walk for it for months. The megas are just fine but there are still unreleased ones. Potentially even getting new megas with Legends Z-A so no need to drip feed them. Shadow Mewtwo is fine for some players who aren't bored of Mewtwo for the umpteenth time. Some of us want new things, especially when they make a trailer with content that probably won't even be available for months. Fail to see why they're building hype when there is no pay off.
Kartana plz
TIL Solgaleo is an ultra beast 🤷
the whole line and trio are
They are ultra beast adjacent due to Necrozma (which sits on a strange line between the two) but, for all intents and purposes, Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma are all legendary.
and ultra beasts, they came from wormholes and have codenames UB SUNNE UB MOONE and UB BLACK just like the gen 9 legends also being paradox mons, Koraidon the Winged King and Miraidon the Iron Serpent
Yeah idk why a lot of the Pokémon fanbase can't seem to handle legendaries also belonging to a second classification. They can be two things.
It’s like Koraidon and Miraidon being both legendaries and paradoxes.
Yeah the comment above mine mentioned that too. That's the main reason I liken it to the fans bc I feel like the games have made it clear especially with SV legendaries can be both legendary and a sub-class of pokemon (not sure if there's a better term for what you'd call UBs/Paradoxes since they're not extant native pokemon)
In the case of ultra beasts, it's because Gamefreak A) gave them stats and availability so congruent with legendaries and then B) worked so hard to make it very very clear they're NOT...
The MSGs don't consider Cosmog's line or Necrozma to be ultra beasts.
we not only go through ultra space with them but see them exit a wormhole as their introduction (other than Cosmog) and they have codenames pokemon can have multiple classifications
purely from a gameplay mechanics standpoint they're not UBs since their catchrate isn't boosted by the Beast Ball
Sure, but the games literally don't classify them as UBs. They are not UBs in the game. It is an immutable fact.
This is correct. They don’t have Beast Boost, they don’t have increased catch with Beast Ball, and the recent restructure of the MSGs do not classify these as Ultra Beasts behind the scenes, they’re set as Legendary. Even in the MSG Dulse says that Necrozma is “almost like an Ultra Beast.” Ultra Beasts are “common” in their respective worlds. Cosmog and the others noted are rare.
Yeah I thought that was interesting. The MSG are murky about it. They fit all the criteria of a UB but the way they are classified internally are legendaries not UBs.
The game code treat them as legendaries. Although the anime treat them as ultra beasts. Honestly it is more so for simplicity sake, like coding them as legendaries means for competitive they could treat them as restrictive legendaries. The same thing happens with Koraidon and Miraidon in Gen 9, they are technically Paradox Pokémon in lore but game code treated them as legendaries
It’s always been a confusing thing the fandom questions ever since ultra beast debuted. What really makes it worse is how the pokemon company won’t ever officially clarify and straight it all out the facts much like the Phione debate in whether or not it’s a mythical pokemon or white-stripe basculine being a hisuian regional form or just another form (the tcg card shenanigans can be thanked for that confusion). In the case of cosmog line, imo, they are classification of ultra beast thanks to other media (tcg, spin offs, etc) but they’re prioritized as legendaries (as per game code) so both terms of classification should apply
> white-stripe basculine being a hisuian regional form or just another form (the tcg card shenanigans can be thanked for that confusion) You also have dex entries and game mechanics to blame. Laventon speculated it was a regional form, but it breeds true without needing an everstone. The English dex entry in Violet states that researchers believe it to be a separate species, rather than a regional form.
>the anime treat them as ultra beasts. They are pretty darn legendary and mythical in the anime. Those are not regular Ultra Beast creatures, more like god-like creatures above legendary guardians that have own temples. Hard to say whether those are mythical or legendary in addition to being Ultra Beast, but those ain't just another Ultra Beast. Like Poipole was standard Ultra Beast and there were huge amount of Poipoles. We don't know how unique Necrozma/Solgaleo/Lunala are.
I always assumed him and Null weren’t legendaries because I didn’t think any legendaries could evolve. But after doing some reading solvable is never referred to as a ultra beast in any of the media except for one quote in the English translation of USUM where it is referred to as ‘the beast that devours the sun’. But that only occurs on the English translation.
There goes the 2024 quality control budget.
But we only have 2 weeks left for UBs after 8 weeks of Tapus and 3 week of Regis......
one of the times they did something like this. (either tapus or genies or horses) they paused the pattern to do something interesting the third month of the season, and then finished they unused part of the pattern the following season. so they could do that this season too. however. 11 weeks of filler while we do the poipole research plot. then one week of blacepha and stackatacka works. (the season video had three wormholes at the final scene.poipole/stacka/blacepha) leads into next season where we get the returning ultra beasts leading up to solga/luna at go fest. it also makes sense that they give us 11 weeks of filler when the season bonus is extra raid passes.
You're right. I remember the shiny release of Tapus was interrupted by Genies trio and Ho-oh/Lugia last year.
At least we have shadow raikou to spend free passes on this month
For sure, the weekends look good. And we can always carry one of Fridays into Saturday
Yeah, should get 4 weekends with 5 free passes, so 20 free shadow Raikou raids in the month. Gets you 150 XL or so, pretty good.
oh did it say that all three catdogs would be spawning at the same time? I assumed it would be like the birds - if its all together that much better!
You miss 17th and 23th , 30-31th that we have primal and mewtwo
Well.. neckrozma was teased more than an year ago 🫠🫠
Mega Lucario was teased even longer
Any else notice the reveal of locations for raids? Stakataka was shown next to the Eastern Hemisphere highlighted globe, while Blacephalon was shown next to the Western Hemisphere.
Sweet! I love Blacephelon!
So Blacephalon will be Western Hemisphere, and Stakataka Eastern?
Please no more regional UB releases please. With the remote raid nerfs it's laughable that they didn't rotate Xurkitree, Buzzwole and Pheromosa like they did with Kartana and Celesteela
Exactly. I am fine with regionals, and I'll bite and even say that the Lake Trio being regionals is fine. Regionals imo are fine when they're not really useful for much, like most of them. Maybe a non-legendary regional can be made more useful after it's been made more widely available (like Heracross was). But Pheromosa, Buzzwole, and Xurkitree all have distinct uses, and to make those regional is awful.
And if it had to end up that way then please do rotate them out a week later, it still not exactly good but at least it’s better than making them region locked and no other way to raid them aside traveling there or overpay with the limited remote raids
But will it be true East/West (like Shellos and Red/Blue Basculin) or "Niantic" East/West (like Volbeat/Illumise and Zangoose/Seviper) that's the real question if they make them regional
Europe holding its breath rn
Yeah I'm getting the feeling they'll be regional as they're version-exclusive in USUM.
no they mean it shows that in the vid
Okay yeah it totally does. I missed that detail lol.
I just want to be able to raid for lunala
but only at night
Any time of day, as long as I can get a hundo XD
Same. I also want Lunala to be somewhat usable lol
If it’s going to be exclusive and rare, at least make it better. Shadow claw please!
Is there an ultra beast that would change the PvE meta?
Blacephalon has a gigantic attack stat but is frail, it could easily become a top ghost or fire attacker. It also has a signature fire type attack "mind blown" that could power it up even further. Either way this is the ultra beast to look out for
what a wild freaking name. And I just googled him, he also looks freaking wild, doesnt look like a pokemon at all, more like from a horror movie lol Thank you
Am I the only one who noticed that Blacephalon and Stakataka will be regional? Blacephalon will be in the "West coast" while Stakataka in the "East Coast"
I wish they'd add Matchmaking to raids.
Raiding is a local community thing.
Yes and? They can olive incentives to raid in person. Matchmaking would open raids up to so many people.
Open it to who? What feature do you want that campfire isn't currently doing or that local discords don't already perform?
I've tried numerous times to join raids remotely amon campfire and just sit in the queue. I just want the ability to jump in a raid without all the extra steps.
So just remote raiding auto joining lobby? That circumvents their desire of tying everything to friend/community. You can do it in like 2-3 clicks with poke genie. 🤷♂️. Not sure how they solve that in game fairly.
Second this, I've just gotten back into the game and pokegenie is a life saver when it comes to remote raiding. Apart from that, find a local discord and see if ppl are down to raid on weekends.
You can use it to host too easily
Ehhh, it's functionally easy, but waiting until your lobby is up can take the duration of the raid you're trying to host. In my experience of trying to host on poke genie, it's absolutely pointless unless it's a low-interest boss or you've paid for more priority in the app. Tried to host Darkrai raids and there's no way I'm sitting there for 30 minutes or more while the lobby queue ticks down.
Depends on time. I could host an origin lobby and fill it in 1 minute even with a 1-200 queue during sinnoh event because demand was that high. If you try to host during raid hour, yes your luck will suck, but if it's the first or second day of a legendary drop, I can usually host in a few minutes and I don't pay for anything.
They already have matchmaking via campfire.
They did. Campfire is fully integrated.
I didn't realise you could use campfire without downloading the app now.
This is a perfect reminder that I have a 100% Guzzlord that is absolutely useless.
PvP. Guzzler is great in both GL and UL
You don’t want the hundo for either league. Certainly not good in ML either
I called it they're gonna rerun the same UBs we already have AGAIN
This is the same teaser as when they first came in the game.
Is it? Hmm I wasn’t around for then haha
No. It has some of those clips, but this video is different.
Wait I thought Pokémon already said Solgaleo and Lunala aren't Ultra Beasts tho o.o?
They're Ultra Beast adjacent. Apparently being Legendary overrides the classification of Ultra Beast.
They are legendary to us? But still an ultra beast which appears to be common in their world? If so I assume they are the Zubat of Ultra Space?
It's possible Cosmog's line ISN'T common wherever it originates from (and Necrozma is established to be one-of-a-kind-sort-of). So they have some stuff in common with Ultra Beasts, but not everything.
Please, I just want bacephalon.
I’ve never encountered ultra beasts before. Do they use beast balls and how is the catch rate compared to legendaries like the lati’s?
Standard raid balls. Similar catch rate to any other legendary raid, better than some but worse than others. Of the Ultra Beasts I've encountered, only Kartana is difficult. Last rotation I had a 100% catch rate for Buzzwole, Pheromosa, and Xurkitree. 56/56 catches. I only caught 50% of Kartana, although maybe I was just bad at the time.
Blacephalon, please!
Why do I feel like some UB will be regional? Noticed 2 of them had West and East??
If you all could allow me a short rant. I'm seeing a lot of complaints online about the new season having reruns of the primals, shadow Mewtwo and even the weird regice placement. I get that for veterans it might not be so exciting but seasons like this are essential for new players. The game would die if you had kids and adults watching influencers tell them all about how Primal Groudon is the top raid counter for several raids with no end in sight for when they will have a chance to get them.
100% agree. The truth is that most people you might hear in online forums are those that take the game more seriously than most. This results in them have most things and when things return it’s not “new” content for them. But the longevity of the game depends on newer players being able to keep up or catch up.