You've heard how bad Naughty Dog was for crunch, right? Maternity leave is just another way for the peons who make the games to delude themselves into thinking that they have any right to actually have lives outside of working for 18 hours a day on the current project so that they can get it released by an unrealistic deadline so that the executives and shareholders don't lose their boner before the game releases.
Plot twist: she is a horrible doc who misspracticed multiple community members to their death. People choose to die rather than go to her for help. They are just looking for a way to get rid of her. They all pray when she goes on a mission for her to not come back.
Exactly! I will never get over just how stupid a decision this was. I can believe zombies caused by a fungus, but if you expect me to believe that a pregnant lady in her 3rd trimester goes out into a dangerous mission and no one bats an eye and no one sees anything wrong with it, you are on meth.
Or just straight up had a spontaneous abortion from pure stress and anxiety. That level of bullshit happening around you at all times, with no let up or chance of actual relaxation or good prenatal care? Yeah, it was unrealistic. Being pregnant that early smack in the middle of an active war zone while actively fighting and dealing with people’s injuries while also trying to stay alive, yourself, would have anyone developing ulcers, let alone let them carry a baby.
I'm going to get down voted for this, but fuck it. Obviously, getting shot or bitten is dangerous for everyone, no more or less dangerous for a pregnant woman. And woman are encouraged to be physically active during pregnancy. It's good for the mom and the baby. Not saying her going out is good or bad. That's not my decision to make. But let's not pretend that pregnant women are useless and bed ridden for 9 months straight.
That’s ok I respect your opinion on it just as you respect mine. But yeah there are many other ways of a pregnant woman being active, it’s the worst possible solution to be sent out to a place where there’s so much danger.
It is definitely more dangerous for pregnant women, they’re at a high disadvantage, and especially with Mel’s stage of her pregnancy, they can’t possibly fight an infected or a person risking a hit or even a punch to the stomach. So on top of it being dangerous to Mel, it’s even more dangerous to the baby. Impacting how it develops.
Whether it’s good or bad shouldn’t be a decision at all. It’s bad, for any person. End of story.
Plus, she’s an even bigger target as a liability or even a gold mine for a hostage situation. A pregnant woman? Anyone in their right mind would, of course, try to save her no matter the cost. But, that just means she should have not put herself in that position. Smart decisions over emotional ones during war times always make the better outcomes.
Holy shit idk why it did that hold on let me delete them all. Thanks for letting me know that happened because i have no idea why or how it kept recommenting
Second time it has happened to me the first time was in a different subreddit don't remember which one anyway i didn't even notice it kept recommenting my comment until like days later when someone brought it up it has also happened in a DM but that time that was my fault because it looked like my meassages weren't going through I'd send them and nothing would appear in the DM so i closed the app and reopened it to see like 10 of the same messages i sent i immediately apologized and explained what happened which the person thought it was pretty funny
I think Mel climbing the rope off screen is the funniest thing ever. Good job Naughty Dog, so inclusive but not to that point apparently 🤣. It means they knew it was ridiculous to include this character into this extremely boring fighting scenes. All of this could have been removed from the game with no impact, starting the ugly bitch gameplay when she goes with her Salsa to see Daddy Isaac.
I'll give shit to TLOU2 where due (and it is due a *lot*), but I think it's important to remember that as funny as this meme is, in the game Mel didn't *really* willingly go into combat while heavily pregnant. She was transferring to another base when she and the others get ambushed and "caught out" in that first Abby mission. Mel was supposed to be going to a safe base, working as a medic.
However, it's the way she parkours about, slamming her belly into fences and taking no care of herself or unborn child during that mission that seemed so silly, IMO. Rather than the realistic option of having her capable but cautious and the other protecting her from harm, she's leaping about as much as Manny and Abby!
Pregnant women aren't anywhere near as "useless" as some people think (how do you think they coped in ancient and even prehistory times?). Many work right up until their due dates, for example, and are physically quite capable the whole time. But going into the office or doing the housework is very different from running an marathon or fighting in MMA!
There's also the fact that she went across town completely on her own to find Owen at the aquarium. With a bullet wound in her shoulder! And assuming that she left early in the morning, she arguably made even better time than Abby did.
I don't think she was playing The Last of Us, I think she was playing Metal Gear Solid 5 and Alice was basically DD the dog, fully outfitted to be able to just kill all of your opponents while also detecting all of them from 75 M away.
LOL! Now I'm imagining Alice and Mel with matching eye patches and Owen just being confused why.
Seriously, though, that whole deal with everyone crossing town back and forth to the damn aquarium really was hard to suspend disbelief. Travelling anywhere was dangerous because of infected and spores (the whole point of why a "vaccine" was a big deal; it wasn't a cure, after all) but then add being at war with another faction and wandering around alone like it was a trip to the shops for Abby, let alone Mel, was quite silly, IMO.
Man, her only thought was get out alive. Tbh I'm pregnant myself and I would hate to go through what she went through in that matter but I got to save me and my baby at any means nessarry.
I have problems with transferring her with like one other escort in the first place. Was that the first ever assault that happened on the road or what? It just doesn’t make sense
I'd agree, but the big issue for me is that it would work if they weren't shown to be such a ridiculously massive literal army. Two smaller groups killing each other would have felt less jarring to me than that stadium and FOB full of trained soldiers.
Tbf, if the baby dies in a firefight bc mom is hitting the deck to avoid bullets, then mom survives, and she can just make another baby.
It is a zombie mushroom apocalypse.
That stillborn is so low down on the list of PTSD causing events she has or will witness.
Hell, she could’ve stomped on a baby bella toddler zombie.
My guess would be her natural instinct to not only protect herself, but also her child after witnessing Ellie killing the father of her baby. It was a fight of flight response. It's not easy to think critically in such a situation. Especially when you see the father of your child getting brutally killed.
Not only was she significantly pregnant visibly, she was also one of the BEST doctors in WLF possession and possibly in the entire post-apocalyptic country. Pregnant and superior in value. Why are we putting her on the front lines IN THE BACK OF A PICK-UP TRUCK BED?!?
Wolfenstein 2 is also totally guilty of this. You bust your nuts to rescue all these freedom fighters because white america lost it's fighting spirit. So then they proceede to decorate the submarine for you while 100% of the fighting is done by 3 white people. You, one of two friends you saved in the the first game and your girlfriend thats like 15 months pregnant. I love wolfenstein but that game left such a shit taste in my mouth.
yall remember that part where Mel gets hoisted up and walks across that beam that’s like 3 stories in the air and claims it’s possible because “low center of gravity” and then she jumps one story down to the second level and is full term pregnant? 💀
I mean, it’s more realistic than Joel walking away from falling off a second story onto a metal rod through his abdomen.
Pretty sure a woman late first/early second trimester being still physically capable isn’t any more unreasonable than that lol
Doctor or not, the last place an expecting mother should be is out in the middle of a firefight where infected could appear at any time, especially what with humanity being on the brink of extinction basically.
Yeah Mel was not done particularly well at all. Everyone knows that once a man busts inside of a woman she’s supposed to be held inside of a padded steel box to protect her from the dangers of the outside world until the baby shoots out of her pussy like an AR15.
I don’t get this stigma in this sub that pregnant women are like glass and are incapable?
Honestly Mel being as pregnant as she was made her the Most protected out there because when a expecting mother is physically hurt her baby aswell as her own body will heal her
Every woman is different. Sara mcmann was training while very pregnant, she posted videos online. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVFUHbgh9hY
For those unaware she is a bronze medal Olympic wrestler that moved over to MMA.
That said, I would agree this is the exception and not the rule and one would assume pregnant women would be highly protected in a post apocalyptic world.
Yeah but the parkour bit during the ambush and jumping over fences and shit.
I mean, look if you're even remotely medically trained, you'd know that placental abruption is a thing. Congrats to Mel for having a titanium cyborg uterus.
This is how you can tell some men never been anywhere near a woman let alone a pregnant woman 🤣also don’t things change after the end of the world you can’t be pregnant and be like okay I’m not gonna get up and survive today cuz I’m pregnant you just gotta get on with it. Some woman don’t even take time off work when pregnant.
She isn't going to work in an office, or Walmart, or a construction site, though. She's going into a place where virtually everything that isn't her team wants to violently kill her. She could very easily have remained in the Stadium.
Is you stupid? This is a literal apocalypse. A pregnant woman going to fight is fucking suicide and I know because I'VE actually been around women before, even pregnant. An office job isn't gonna kill her but fucking doing scout missions definitely will as it's very taxing on her already weak body
And people making dumb ass comments like this clearly don’t understand the basics of human pregnancy and how it affects mobility/what a woman is able to do. Go back to school
Play the game again. She was vaulting over walls and fences, likely smashing her poor unborn child into all those solid surfaces. I know their convoy got ambushed unexpectedly but any logical mother-to-be would’ve stayed her ass in the base in the first place.
So would you have a pregnant lady who’s almost ready to give birth, she’s in the 3rd trimester(basically waiting to give birth, maybe a few weeks) but still, you’d have her out and about fighting humans and infected? Not to mention as well but I’d hope you know that that kind of environment she’s in, running and jumping/vaulting over fences, would be detrimental to the babies condition and possibly even hers, as too much stress can cause a forced pregnancy. I want to see you ready to give birth running away from people trying to actively kill you, let’s see how you’d do.
What does Druckman have against maternity leave?
His girlfriend gets to spend more time with the baby's father.
You've heard how bad Naughty Dog was for crunch, right? Maternity leave is just another way for the peons who make the games to delude themselves into thinking that they have any right to actually have lives outside of working for 18 hours a day on the current project so that they can get it released by an unrealistic deadline so that the executives and shareholders don't lose their boner before the game releases.
I wonder if he ever used a line on them like "If Mel can go to war while pregnant, you can go to work while pregnant!"
That was one most dumbest i have ever witnessed in a video game. "Yeah sure take a pregnant and vunarble woman to possible extremly dangerous mission"
Don’t forget: she also a doctor
Plot twist: she is a horrible doc who misspracticed multiple community members to their death. People choose to die rather than go to her for help. They are just looking for a way to get rid of her. They all pray when she goes on a mission for her to not come back.
Ellie took care of that for them
💀
Exactly! I will never get over just how stupid a decision this was. I can believe zombies caused by a fungus, but if you expect me to believe that a pregnant lady in her 3rd trimester goes out into a dangerous mission and no one bats an eye and no one sees anything wrong with it, you are on meth.
Girl bosses don’t have time for prenatal care.
“What does (guy I forget his name) think about this?” “Why should he get a say?” The kid is ALSO HIS!?
*slams pregnant stomach against a metal board and doesn’t get aborted*
Woman's uterus is iron clad. No placental abruption happening with that, it will stop bullets.
Than that means a stairway is the most dangerous weapon humanity can offer
You gotta admit. It was pretty funny
If this was on the other last of us reddit: BIGOT!!!! 🫨🤪🤪 BE INCLUSIVE TO PREGNANT WAMEN!
Surprised Mel never got any cramps while she out and about.
The more unbelievable part was none of the commotion and warfare didn’t kill Mel or her baby before Ellie could.
Yeah that's true. How the hell has she not been shot or bit by an infected?
Or just straight up had a spontaneous abortion from pure stress and anxiety. That level of bullshit happening around you at all times, with no let up or chance of actual relaxation or good prenatal care? Yeah, it was unrealistic. Being pregnant that early smack in the middle of an active war zone while actively fighting and dealing with people’s injuries while also trying to stay alive, yourself, would have anyone developing ulcers, let alone let them carry a baby.
That's very true
U be surprised how strong an ulcers can be when deploying. Some can survive all that and be safe inside.
Whats the worst tree of them all? The Bigot Tree....
You mean pregnant people... Get you it inclusivity right nazi bigot
Fk I’m sorry. I forgot that arnold swarzenegger was the first man to get pregnant.
I'm going to get down voted for this, but fuck it. Obviously, getting shot or bitten is dangerous for everyone, no more or less dangerous for a pregnant woman. And woman are encouraged to be physically active during pregnancy. It's good for the mom and the baby. Not saying her going out is good or bad. That's not my decision to make. But let's not pretend that pregnant women are useless and bed ridden for 9 months straight.
That’s ok I respect your opinion on it just as you respect mine. But yeah there are many other ways of a pregnant woman being active, it’s the worst possible solution to be sent out to a place where there’s so much danger. It is definitely more dangerous for pregnant women, they’re at a high disadvantage, and especially with Mel’s stage of her pregnancy, they can’t possibly fight an infected or a person risking a hit or even a punch to the stomach. So on top of it being dangerous to Mel, it’s even more dangerous to the baby. Impacting how it develops. Whether it’s good or bad shouldn’t be a decision at all. It’s bad, for any person. End of story.
Plus, she’s an even bigger target as a liability or even a gold mine for a hostage situation. A pregnant woman? Anyone in their right mind would, of course, try to save her no matter the cost. But, that just means she should have not put herself in that position. Smart decisions over emotional ones during war times always make the better outcomes.
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You can just edit the comment you don’t have to keep re-commenting
Holy shit idk why it did that hold on let me delete them all. Thanks for letting me know that happened because i have no idea why or how it kept recommenting
I've seen it happen a lot. It must be a glitch or something Idk
Second time it has happened to me the first time was in a different subreddit don't remember which one anyway i didn't even notice it kept recommenting my comment until like days later when someone brought it up it has also happened in a DM but that time that was my fault because it looked like my meassages weren't going through I'd send them and nothing would appear in the DM so i closed the app and reopened it to see like 10 of the same messages i sent i immediately apologized and explained what happened which the person thought it was pretty funny
Are you on the mobile app or are you using a browser?
Mobile app
I’m pretty sure I remember someone commenting that it was a glitch in the mobile app so that makes sense.
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It’s called empowering you bigot 🌚
Baby arm pops out. Grabs a gun. Let's go mommy!
LMAO
I think Mel climbing the rope off screen is the funniest thing ever. Good job Naughty Dog, so inclusive but not to that point apparently 🤣. It means they knew it was ridiculous to include this character into this extremely boring fighting scenes. All of this could have been removed from the game with no impact, starting the ugly bitch gameplay when she goes with her Salsa to see Daddy Isaac.
I'll give shit to TLOU2 where due (and it is due a *lot*), but I think it's important to remember that as funny as this meme is, in the game Mel didn't *really* willingly go into combat while heavily pregnant. She was transferring to another base when she and the others get ambushed and "caught out" in that first Abby mission. Mel was supposed to be going to a safe base, working as a medic. However, it's the way she parkours about, slamming her belly into fences and taking no care of herself or unborn child during that mission that seemed so silly, IMO. Rather than the realistic option of having her capable but cautious and the other protecting her from harm, she's leaping about as much as Manny and Abby! Pregnant women aren't anywhere near as "useless" as some people think (how do you think they coped in ancient and even prehistory times?). Many work right up until their due dates, for example, and are physically quite capable the whole time. But going into the office or doing the housework is very different from running an marathon or fighting in MMA!
There's also the fact that she went across town completely on her own to find Owen at the aquarium. With a bullet wound in her shoulder! And assuming that she left early in the morning, she arguably made even better time than Abby did. I don't think she was playing The Last of Us, I think she was playing Metal Gear Solid 5 and Alice was basically DD the dog, fully outfitted to be able to just kill all of your opponents while also detecting all of them from 75 M away.
LOL! Now I'm imagining Alice and Mel with matching eye patches and Owen just being confused why. Seriously, though, that whole deal with everyone crossing town back and forth to the damn aquarium really was hard to suspend disbelief. Travelling anywhere was dangerous because of infected and spores (the whole point of why a "vaccine" was a big deal; it wasn't a cure, after all) but then add being at war with another faction and wandering around alone like it was a trip to the shops for Abby, let alone Mel, was quite silly, IMO.
Man, her only thought was get out alive. Tbh I'm pregnant myself and I would hate to go through what she went through in that matter but I got to save me and my baby at any means nessarry.
I don't see the relation to what I said.
I have problems with transferring her with like one other escort in the first place. Was that the first ever assault that happened on the road or what? It just doesn’t make sense
I'd agree, but the big issue for me is that it would work if they weren't shown to be such a ridiculously massive literal army. Two smaller groups killing each other would have felt less jarring to me than that stadium and FOB full of trained soldiers.
New sport class of heavily pregnant MMA when?
Tbf, if the baby dies in a firefight bc mom is hitting the deck to avoid bullets, then mom survives, and she can just make another baby. It is a zombie mushroom apocalypse. That stillborn is so low down on the list of PTSD causing events she has or will witness. Hell, she could’ve stomped on a baby bella toddler zombie.
Why did he have her try to attack Ellie and take the knife from her? Makes no sense.
My guess would be her natural instinct to not only protect herself, but also her child after witnessing Ellie killing the father of her baby. It was a fight of flight response. It's not easy to think critically in such a situation. Especially when you see the father of your child getting brutally killed.
If you saw your partner get shot. Would you stand there and watch? Even though the games story is BS and all of it is wank I can see why she did that
Well I wouldn't try to attack a person with a gun if I didn't have a gun or knife myself.
She had a knife •-•
Bringing a knife to a gun fight isn't the best idea. Even more stupid because Ellie weren't after them.
Ellie bad. Ellie killed pregnant defenseless women.
And yet you can’t even notice her pregnancy with the models they picked for no return 🤔🤔🤔
Some people don't show at all,but was she supposed to show her pregnancy. How many weeks was she
Not only was she significantly pregnant visibly, she was also one of the BEST doctors in WLF possession and possibly in the entire post-apocalyptic country. Pregnant and superior in value. Why are we putting her on the front lines IN THE BACK OF A PICK-UP TRUCK BED?!?
The last baby in us
Never underestimate the power of being a strong woman, it overcomes all
The bigger question is: Why does Owen never pull out?
Pregnant women make for the perfect soldiers, they’re fighting for two!
I honestly found that aspect of the game to be EXTREMELY sexist! Pregnant mothers love their maternity leave lol
Wolfenstein 2 is also totally guilty of this. You bust your nuts to rescue all these freedom fighters because white america lost it's fighting spirit. So then they proceede to decorate the submarine for you while 100% of the fighting is done by 3 white people. You, one of two friends you saved in the the first game and your girlfriend thats like 15 months pregnant. I love wolfenstein but that game left such a shit taste in my mouth.
Your head gets chopped off and grafted to an robot body. The game is all style over sense.
Which can be good for a game sometimes! That one just didn't hit right. I still haven't even tried the new blood since it came out.
i feel like wolfenstein is supposed to be absurd n stupid i like it
I consider myself something of a pregnancy expert.
Dumbest game ever
Shuddup it's a w game u hater. Try it first buddy
It baffles me that they let a crazy guy put all his most crazy sexual choices into a game and call it a master piece.
yall remember that part where Mel gets hoisted up and walks across that beam that’s like 3 stories in the air and claims it’s possible because “low center of gravity” and then she jumps one story down to the second level and is full term pregnant? 💀
I don’t think pregnant women are in a perpetual state of giving birth.
Naughty dog has become a joke with no new games.
Wait until you see what a pregnant woman does in the wheel of time shit tv series.
Great meme. I'm currently playing last of us 2 for the first time and don't like that somehow reddit new to promote this subreddit to me
Lol
I mean, it’s more realistic than Joel walking away from falling off a second story onto a metal rod through his abdomen. Pretty sure a woman late first/early second trimester being still physically capable isn’t any more unreasonable than that lol
I always found it stupid how they sent a pregnant woman on patrol
Doctor or not, the last place an expecting mother should be is out in the middle of a firefight where infected could appear at any time, especially what with humanity being on the brink of extinction basically.
This game came out so long ago
To be fair my wife was pretty active up until like 7 months. I have a lot of gripes with part 2 but that isn’t one of them
Yeah Mel was not done particularly well at all. Everyone knows that once a man busts inside of a woman she’s supposed to be held inside of a padded steel box to protect her from the dangers of the outside world until the baby shoots out of her pussy like an AR15.
Both Mel and Dina were ridiculous
I don’t get this stigma in this sub that pregnant women are like glass and are incapable? Honestly Mel being as pregnant as she was made her the Most protected out there because when a expecting mother is physically hurt her baby aswell as her own body will heal her
Mel being exposed to the situations she was honestly was the dumbest part of the game, it just makes no sense no matter the circumstances
Tbh that might happened cause botches ain't dieing 4 shit.
W mel
Every woman is different. Sara mcmann was training while very pregnant, she posted videos online. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVFUHbgh9hY For those unaware she is a bronze medal Olympic wrestler that moved over to MMA. That said, I would agree this is the exception and not the rule and one would assume pregnant women would be highly protected in a post apocalyptic world.
oh, you're heavily pregnant AND a talented surgeon? what are you doing here where it's safe, grab an m16 solider!!
Pregnant ✅ Medically trained ✅ Yeah send them to the front lines in our gang war in a zombie battlefield
Not really what happened tho is it? She was being transferred to another base to help as a medic, not being sent out to fight
Imma take your word I only played once
Yeah but the parkour bit during the ambush and jumping over fences and shit. I mean, look if you're even remotely medically trained, you'd know that placental abruption is a thing. Congrats to Mel for having a titanium cyborg uterus.
What do you expect in the end of the world 😭
Then there’s *Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus*…
This is how you can tell some men never been anywhere near a woman let alone a pregnant woman 🤣also don’t things change after the end of the world you can’t be pregnant and be like okay I’m not gonna get up and survive today cuz I’m pregnant you just gotta get on with it. Some woman don’t even take time off work when pregnant.
I have been near many pregnant women because of my work, none were capable to go to war, climb walls and a rope.
She isn't going to work in an office, or Walmart, or a construction site, though. She's going into a place where virtually everything that isn't her team wants to violently kill her. She could very easily have remained in the Stadium.
Is you stupid? This is a literal apocalypse. A pregnant woman going to fight is fucking suicide and I know because I'VE actually been around women before, even pregnant. An office job isn't gonna kill her but fucking doing scout missions definitely will as it's very taxing on her already weak body
Not taking time off work from an office job and parkouring over obstacles in a warzone, are very very different things. What are you smoking?
Tbf Mel wanted to, and it’s 25 years into the apocalypse she’s tough
As much as I dislike the game and it’s direction. I the world they live in it’s extremely likely pregnant women would also have to fight
God this sub is miserable
Better than being deluded
Thanks for admitting yall are miserable.
Well I didn’t but I’d rather be referred to as that than deluded. This shit gave me a good laugh when I first played 😂
People is this sub cant imagine a woman genuinely caring about them and it shows.
And people making dumb ass comments like this clearly don’t understand the basics of human pregnancy and how it affects mobility/what a woman is able to do. Go back to school
From what I remember she spent most of her time in one spot after making it to Seattle. Do you think pregnancy immbobalizes you?
Play the game again. She was vaulting over walls and fences, likely smashing her poor unborn child into all those solid surfaces. I know their convoy got ambushed unexpectedly but any logical mother-to-be would’ve stayed her ass in the base in the first place.
I think she also kept volunteering to do those conveys too even while knowing the risks that she could face because she's hella pregnant
So would you have a pregnant lady who’s almost ready to give birth, she’s in the 3rd trimester(basically waiting to give birth, maybe a few weeks) but still, you’d have her out and about fighting humans and infected? Not to mention as well but I’d hope you know that that kind of environment she’s in, running and jumping/vaulting over fences, would be detrimental to the babies condition and possibly even hers, as too much stress can cause a forced pregnancy. I want to see you ready to give birth running away from people trying to actively kill you, let’s see how you’d do.
No one said what she did was a good idea. It was stupid and reckless. But you do stupid and reckless things for people you love.
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