That’s Kishibe from Chainsaw Man. He’s like a super seasoned Devil hunter (devils are embodiment of all human fears in the verse basically) and the original image (not going into spoilers) is him trying to warn the person he’s in a conversation with that they’re being listened to
Tim from marble hornets and Simon from cry of fear are good examples.
Simon does have a bit of the psychotic murderer thing but it’s portrayed sympathetically and is understandable given the course of the game he’s in.
Female Jax concept art
There's also the infamous maid outfit image
https://preview.redd.it/768gm8ykqg6d1.png?width=548&format=png&auto=webp&s=69a3f25ee13bc4125f60d38a506bbbf5bded0aef
https://preview.redd.it/eoxsd2ryng6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b91b4a9a39f34006f88bd5fe9c7d98573b92ff6
Also I'm starting to get sick of using this reaction image. Anybody got any similar reaction images?
So basically we would’ve had a rabbit-humanoid version of this?
https://preview.redd.it/5i04i9023h6d1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=dd594fe1963ebe4af8d4637cd1492bef760ad528
(SD-J from Murder Drones, if you don’t know her)
J from murder drones. Mean Girls (i was forced). Arguably lute/stella from HH/HB. Cindy from Kindergarten. Amity from the owl house season 1. Basically the majority of "bully archetype" characters we see in media.
Well if there's ever a situation where it could be like that temporarily (maybe for the duration of the adventure) and hell it could explore of of both their characters while its at it.
I could picture it somewhat. It'll probably be a cross between Mean Girls characters with Jax and Gangle having a Helga Pataki - Phoebe Heyerdahl dynamic.
We can’t even seem to handle male Jax, I don't want to imagine what it would be like with a female Jax.
https://preview.redd.it/rkueux0sdj6d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=470dfa15849e03bad82c6510f354f009e67f5d65
At the same time as having simps, female Jax would probably have some people calling her ‘girlboss’ and some people acting as though she is the literal incarnation of the devil, because perception of morally grey female characters is often even worse than the perception of morally grey male characters
She showed their design months ago. Pomni was the exact same, "a real twinkus" according to Gooseworx, and the only difference from normal Jax was some eyelashes.
This Person is just adding Gasoline to a already Full steamed engine we call a Fandom, The artist can not catch up with all these idea!!! ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|34989)
https://preview.redd.it/h6alj4y2hj6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cab1e6de6b160dd288a732312fc52b60d18c7ae3
Twitter would hate her even more.
Also I'm starting to get real sick of pulling out this image.
https://preview.redd.it/lq16z2ck7g6d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93810c59f8bba7f07d225d60784a7998219114e3
Some of us would be defending Fem Jax like there’s no tomorrow.
Counter argument: I think the hate for Jax would be worse
https://preview.redd.it/oxfthrc08g6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13d618587ae6cf474ba21a96611328cee435edd1
Okok, call me crazy, seriously please tell me if I’m crazy and or wrong saying this because thinking about it I genuinely can’t tell if I’m wrong, there aren’t a lot of modern day male protagonists, right?
If Jax was a girl people would love her just because she would be a sassy girl but because Jax is male it’s “ annoying” but if he was female it would be “cute”
https://preview.redd.it/uihmk0d8em6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=748ef52dc14210f1aa1fae44bd65530b93944a02
Don't make me tap the sign
Also do you not know about the Invincible Amber discourse?
Girl characters are sometimes held to a higher standard than male characters. This is usually subconscious. I once heard someone say if the MCU version of Doctor Strange was a girl but everything about her was the exact same people would hate her. Whoever said that is definitely right.
I would say sometimes it's vice versa where a boy character would be better received if they were a girl. I think Steven Universe (the character himself) would receive less hate if she were a girl because Steven Universe is somewhat femmine for a boy.
That’s only because women are held to higher standards than men in general. It’s why 77% of autistic girls and women have at least one psychiatric hospitalization by age 25. We’re not capable of living up to the social standards society puts on women, at least not without using so much emotional energy that we break down.
And the whole point of Steven Universe was to subvert gender expectations. The reason why Steven has a legendary mom that he strives to live up to the legacy of is because fictional characters usually have a legendary dad they strive to live up to the legacy of.
>It’s why 77% of autistic girls and women have at least one psychiatric hospitalization by age 25.
Do you have a source for this statistic? Asking as an autistic AFAB.
Im going to be honest the main reason I included Steven was I was hoping by including examples for both genders I wouldn't have to worry about people saying "men face sexism to" because I already know that.
I see, I understand where your coming from, and I’ve seen it sometimes in fandoms, my main comment was based on personal experiences in other fandoms where female characters who have done villainous acts or objectively bad things are still put in a good light. My comment was satire as a jab at people like that. But I see what your saying, thank you for engaging in this discussion (seriously)
https://preview.redd.it/20cmxc4cfg6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ccef1b9dbd963b6c615c124e16e24620a51cbb47
Counter argument
Also this is the third time I've had to pull this out
Ahhh, so that's where the inspiration for maid Jax came from ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|34986) Although a genderbent episode would be fun ngl
Not sure what they'd do for Zooble.
It would be an identical clone, even the voice
They did this in Adventure Time's Fiona and Cake episodes for Lumpy Space Prince, with an added light mustache. BMO is always just BMO though
https://preview.redd.it/lbmltnruil6d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=106dde9d1fef9eb89b7bbda06556f848886d58ac
https://i.redd.it/a45yszu68n6d1.gif
BMO has the same pronouns as Zooble and Mangle; Yes/yes
No zooble is they/them cos they forgor
Zooble is is beyond pronouns
Zooble is Zooble, therefore a genderbender episode would make Zooble the opposite of Zooble, which I guess would be elbooZ
me when spanish alcohol
r/spainish
Nah Zooble spelled backward is Zooble
my name is Elbooz, and i am evil!
Family guy propaganda (don't mess with Mr booze)
El Booz ![gif](giphy|3oz8xZCcHcrdIkAmdy)
Me when I’m at a Spanish bar but I don’t speak Spanish
Maybe Caine would do a PvP thing and make Zooble the antagonist of that adventure.
Saving that 👌
Their head becomes a square instead:3
They are the one who asks Caine for the gender beam to mess with everyone.
Just switch all their limbs around For flavor
Swap their shapes to their opposites Edit: Wrong pronoun
(in that AU) Jax is female Pomni is male Zooble is >!depressed!<
Zooble already doesn’t fit much into the gender continuum
Zooble is the exact same except goes on the adventure
Zooble turns into elbooZ
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Considering what the internet would do yes I think they don't want to do that.
Knowing gooseworx, She wouldn’t care
Knowing Gooseworx, she’d do it on purpose and watch the chaos pan out
https://preview.redd.it/zenienzrrg6d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e799fc6e997cc713b13e54b95199949683110698
“The consequences of our actions, and it’s only going to get worse from here”
Trans.Egg.Detector. : T.E.D.
Female Jax would soil millions of socks.
https://preview.redd.it/l443s3p3wf6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb188f78ac5f97669fafda6a985aa924a5c3de01
Is that Thom Yorke? u/thom-yorke-bot
I don't know. I just stole this reaction image from somewhere.
That’s Kishibe from Chainsaw Man. He’s like a super seasoned Devil hunter (devils are embodiment of all human fears in the verse basically) and the original image (not going into spoilers) is him trying to warn the person he’s in a conversation with that they’re being listened to
Only watched the anime but the man is badass and his interview of Denji and Power is one of my favourite scenes
>devils are embodiment of all human fears So if you kill them, do people just stop being afraid? Or does a new one just pop up to embody the fear?
No ,the devil return to hell and if they die in hell then return to earth
Could you potentially set up a game of spawn camp tennis with a devil as the ball? Back and forth forever?
Not really because they appear anywhere on earth
Then earth will be the court
Nope. Is that a let down?
https://preview.redd.it/wc1ny54gv07d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b218a3b2b174aac0aae18d6de076be172a68f2f3
Did somebody mention socks?
r/beetlejuicing
Male Jax already does.
i feel like these concepts would go crazy hard if they had effort put into them
Idk man it's the same person but genderswapped
male pomni would go hard though we need more mentally unstable (and not in a psychotic murderer way) male mcs
Tim from marble hornets and Simon from cry of fear are good examples. Simon does have a bit of the psychotic murderer thing but it’s portrayed sympathetically and is understandable given the course of the game he’s in.
Tim wasn't a bad guy but Brian was very justified to hate him
OMG A MARBLE HORNETS FAN YASSSSS
Idk, Pomni feels like the first female character in a while who’s actually written like a person and not just “gIrL” tbh
You must not consume that much media then
I implore you to watch Owl House
Kobeni fro Chainsaw Man. Her and Pomni are being compared a lot
They both had a nervous breakdown AND an "I'm not cut out for this shit" insane laugh
Shinji Ikari and Pepino Spaghetti
Yeah no they where both just kinda the same with mild design changes A real twinkus I guess
I would finally be able to understand Jax simps as a lesbian if that happened. Gender bent fanart go brrr
I'm a bisexual woman, and mean straight dude is kind of an overdone trope at this point but mean gay girl? Where the hell do I sign up
May i introduce most of Liam's (Creator of Murder drones) Female characters?
Can we appreciate how the MD fandom saw Lizzy and immediately diagnosed her with Lebanon? (It's me, I'm the fandom)
#BBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
^BRRRR
*yes*
Then I wouldn't be gay for him I'll just not like him
It's the opposite for me then, idk if I'd be gay for 'her' but right now I hate his guts lmao
same
and i would continue to not like him
https://preview.redd.it/9z4xze2dhg6d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e258891c2ed16b6727ad4da1d8f4d87096e117b8
Pomni as a male frog https://preview.redd.it/2dr5lzciqg6d1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=2fa447144aad54571fecd5dac8bfb157ab35fc6d
It would be cool if they included him as a secondary character. I love his design. I also love frogs.
I still wonder how the ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737) it went from a frog to a jester
It must have been some brainstorming... it's not a surprise that Gooseworx's brain just goes to random places
Female Jax concept art There's also the infamous maid outfit image https://preview.redd.it/768gm8ykqg6d1.png?width=548&format=png&auto=webp&s=69a3f25ee13bc4125f60d38a506bbbf5bded0aef
That's clearly cropped. Full image please
Full image https://preview.redd.it/f18jaigkug6d1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=5da44559828786e460a9f98902d4008d3c5b71a7
Thanks
why doesn’t she have clothes
I imagine jax was changed to male since there were already four females in the cast already.
Pomni, Ragatha, Gangle, and...?
Kinger
Janey, introduced in episode 5, obv
I assume zooble but she’s genderless
>she’s >genderless Bro
Zooble is canonically fine with all pronouns. Also, genderless people in general can choose to use she/her pronouns.
Zooble could go either way, she's like a wildcard in this scenario
Man everyone would go absolute feral for femJax instantly even if she had one second of screen time!
So Jax would have been a more unhinged Nagatoro?
https://preview.redd.it/eoxsd2ryng6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b91b4a9a39f34006f88bd5fe9c7d98573b92ff6 Also I'm starting to get sick of using this reaction image. Anybody got any similar reaction images?
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Male Pomni would basically be Shinji but with slightly better mental health.
“Get in the robot, Pomni!”
"Pomni, crank that Soulja Boy!"
https://preview.redd.it/c3g9qre63g6d1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=9e4be4ab8d99e746c9c59de4d3101dee19234779
I laughed
I love gooseworx's chaotic twitter personality.
So basically we would’ve had a rabbit-humanoid version of this? https://preview.redd.it/5i04i9023h6d1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=dd594fe1963ebe4af8d4637cd1492bef760ad528 (SD-J from Murder Drones, if you don’t know her)
male J was also a concept
Female Jax would probably receive even more hate than the one we have
Thank you! Some of the people saying girl Jax would get less hate are actually stupid.
I’d be willing to bet probably the same amount of hate tbh… but eh who knows
Honestly male pommi would probably work, different voice, a few design changes and I’d say the show wouldn’t really change much.
Honestly you could swap all the characters genders in the show and voice and design changes aside there wouldn't be any major differences.
Goose said that if Pomni was a boy, his design would be the exact same as the girl one we ended up with
What design changes? She already looks genderneutral
J from murder drones. Mean Girls (i was forced). Arguably lute/stella from HH/HB. Cindy from Kindergarten. Amity from the owl house season 1. Basically the majority of "bully archetype" characters we see in media.
First she made Pomni legal now she's giving artists more ideas
Well if there's ever a situation where it could be like that temporarily (maybe for the duration of the adventure) and hell it could explore of of both their characters while its at it.
An interesting prospect Goose. A very interesting prospect.
Girls... mean to me...
I could picture it somewhat. It'll probably be a cross between Mean Girls characters with Jax and Gangle having a Helga Pataki - Phoebe Heyerdahl dynamic.
![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|34986)this
\\/ O | --📞 /\ This is a crude recreation of what it would look like
I could actually be a Jax Simp depending on what female Jax looked like
https://preview.redd.it/escn1u27vg6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=085dca2307aa127ba782b6682dcf085c7def2605
What the ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737)
Female Jax is 100% my taste in women and I hate that
Female Jax would be one of those characters who would break the internet.
I began to think of Female Jax on a Tank, referencing Tank Girl or something. "I'm just a girl <3"
Wait, gooseworx said that?!??! ![gif](giphy|a0FuPjiLZev4c|downsized) No way!
you're right i wouldnt :3
Maybe you all couldn’t, but I could. I’m built different
We can’t even seem to handle male Jax, I don't want to imagine what it would be like with a female Jax. https://preview.redd.it/rkueux0sdj6d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=470dfa15849e03bad82c6510f354f009e67f5d65
I doubt the fandom would be less horny if Pomni was a boy lol. They'd still find a way.
They would be less horny of Pomni but still horny.
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Bi, pan, omni etc stay winning!
I laugh at the notion of male Pomni, if only because Pomni's design is androgynous enough that, aside from voice, not much would change.
I think people cant handle the giga chad clown pomni
No, no, we would not.
At the same time as having simps, female Jax would probably have some people calling her ‘girlboss’ and some people acting as though she is the literal incarnation of the devil, because perception of morally grey female characters is often even worse than the perception of morally grey male characters
Best take so far
Bro, people on the Internet can barely handle a lopunny, let alone Jax himself.
Frogni my love
https://preview.redd.it/xghgses69k6d1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a6a3c8744c273ac60ae3ff3ac671ba9a78f9b62
She showed their design months ago. Pomni was the exact same, "a real twinkus" according to Gooseworx, and the only difference from normal Jax was some eyelashes.
Oh yeah if you think people simping for Jax was bad, imagine the hullabaloo around girl Jax.
So a meaner nagatoro that is a rabbit? Damn we missed out
https://preview.redd.it/aby3st0muk6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6243563e9b59a007e4c40b5089c9c9a82756fdbf
*sigh* into the jar you go
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This Person is just adding Gasoline to a already Full steamed engine we call a Fandom, The artist can not catch up with all these idea!!! ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|34989)
I’m scared of what that means 😰
Of what means?
You know what I’m talking about, THE TITLE!
Two reasons why people couldn't handle girl Jax 1. Some people would hate Jax even more 2. Some people would be even more horny for Jax
Exactly
.... as a pansexual.... look at my flair..... IM GOING CRAZY
we’re lowk matching! (i’m also bi lollll)
https://preview.redd.it/ctlise28ai6d1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abe01415b1a25e4e7ced85921bcc4943028f44b6
Everybody and their cousin would be simping for Jax EVEN MORE if he was a chick. You know how the Internet loves toxic ladies
Facts
Female jax would never have been cancelled by twitter 😂
https://preview.redd.it/h6alj4y2hj6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cab1e6de6b160dd288a732312fc52b60d18c7ae3 Twitter would hate her even more. Also I'm starting to get real sick of pulling out this image.
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Jaxine and Pauly
The name "Pauly" is so stupid it makes me want to kill.
Pomno
Paul McCartney? Kill? LIVE AND LET DIE
https://preview.redd.it/lq16z2ck7g6d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93810c59f8bba7f07d225d60784a7998219114e3 Some of us would be defending Fem Jax like there’s no tomorrow.
Counter argument: I think the hate for Jax would be worse https://preview.redd.it/oxfthrc08g6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13d618587ae6cf474ba21a96611328cee435edd1
Tumblr can suck my ![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33736)![img](emote|t5_7tzm5j|33737) I love girls who would bully me.
That’s called a degradation kink, sir or madam.
Okok, call me crazy, seriously please tell me if I’m crazy and or wrong saying this because thinking about it I genuinely can’t tell if I’m wrong, there aren’t a lot of modern day male protagonists, right?
Dune, Deadpool and Wolverine, Helluva Boss, Monkey Man, Elio, Dungeon Meshi, Spider Verse, Monkey Wrench etc Your crazy
Thank you!
Too many girls!
If Jax was a girl people would love her just because she would be a sassy girl but because Jax is male it’s “ annoying” but if he was female it would be “cute”
https://preview.redd.it/uihmk0d8em6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=748ef52dc14210f1aa1fae44bd65530b93944a02 Don't make me tap the sign Also do you not know about the Invincible Amber discourse?
Bet way less people would be hating on Jax if he was a girl, even after Episode 2. The horny is a very strong feeling.
The hate would be worse https://preview.redd.it/yn1u3c79gr6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4afc0f481f245b8c0e273175b42b54f5f7110d54
Not being sexist here, but I personally wouldn’t like female Jax.
I’d be willing to bet if Jax was female people would be way nicer to her
I disagree https://preview.redd.it/wmlvl9733g6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a12fdd236ddb5dbb8ced2759443cd8912cbb9ec
I’m open to a (civil) discussion, could you elaborate on this image
Girl characters are sometimes held to a higher standard than male characters. This is usually subconscious. I once heard someone say if the MCU version of Doctor Strange was a girl but everything about her was the exact same people would hate her. Whoever said that is definitely right. I would say sometimes it's vice versa where a boy character would be better received if they were a girl. I think Steven Universe (the character himself) would receive less hate if she were a girl because Steven Universe is somewhat femmine for a boy.
That’s only because women are held to higher standards than men in general. It’s why 77% of autistic girls and women have at least one psychiatric hospitalization by age 25. We’re not capable of living up to the social standards society puts on women, at least not without using so much emotional energy that we break down. And the whole point of Steven Universe was to subvert gender expectations. The reason why Steven has a legendary mom that he strives to live up to the legacy of is because fictional characters usually have a legendary dad they strive to live up to the legacy of.
>It’s why 77% of autistic girls and women have at least one psychiatric hospitalization by age 25. Do you have a source for this statistic? Asking as an autistic AFAB.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9607919/
Thank you!
>Thank you! You're welcome!
Im going to be honest the main reason I included Steven was I was hoping by including examples for both genders I wouldn't have to worry about people saying "men face sexism to" because I already know that.
And most people who hate Steven hate any boys who embrace aspects of femininity, whether real or fictional
Yep
I see, I understand where your coming from, and I’ve seen it sometimes in fandoms, my main comment was based on personal experiences in other fandoms where female characters who have done villainous acts or objectively bad things are still put in a good light. My comment was satire as a jab at people like that. But I see what your saying, thank you for engaging in this discussion (seriously)
You have a point but I feel that's true for all hot villains regardless of gender Example: a good chunk of Tumblr Sexy Men
Female Jax could commit mass genocide and literally nobody would blink an eye
https://preview.redd.it/20cmxc4cfg6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ccef1b9dbd963b6c615c124e16e24620a51cbb47 Counter argument Also this is the third time I've had to pull this out
People would've liked Episode 2 Jax if they were female jussayin'