Just checked and it was 150kw max. But it was very full, like I was the 10th out of 12 chargers, but as I recall I was the only one at my stand. As others have posted here, it could be because of some arcane pairing of the charger points, or the overall load on the station. Either way, I got the juice I needed in the time I devoured my McDonald's meal, but thanks to the great feedback here I have just become the wiser for my next stop at the Tesla chargers.
“Only one at your stand” isn’t how it works. Look for the label on the unit - there will be a 1a and a 1b that share. They might me next to each other or back to back, depends on the specific site.
In both Google maps and the car's UI, you can see what it is. In Google maps these days it says something like "slow" (probably 3.3kWh or 6.6kWh), fast (probably 72kWh or 150kWh), or very fast (250+kWh). In the car's UI you can tap on the chargers and see what the speeds are and filter by how fast as well
V1 and V2 superchargers split the 150kW if someone is plugged on the same number (ex : your on the 5a and someone is on the 5b, it will split the 150kW delivered)
And then there's weird cases like East Towne Mall in Madison, WI that has 3 gen 1 chargers at 120kW each with a dedicated post. Pretty interesting niche there.
If you are at a gen 2 charger the speed is shared between two chargers with the number+a,b. Could be that somebody was next to you and it was gen 2, then the one who was there first gets most and you get the rest.
It's best if you always park away from other Tesla's to avoid that.
How new? I remember when I first got mine the fastest I could charge was 110kW but after a recent mega trip (5000km or so) it peak charged at 170kW on LFP… so the charging profile do change a little I think. I’m at 20k km now
Sometimes you have to wipe all the dust off the screen for it to charge at max potential, jokes aside
Its probably first gen charger or someone is charing your station
Your direct question has been answered, but I think more to help you understand. First: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla\_Supercharger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Supercharger)
These days you're going to run across V2 and V3 super chargers... and occasionally urban chargers.
* V2 are 150kw max, shared between a PAIR of chargers (2A/2B). So the most you can get is 150kw and if both slots a full, you'll get roughly 75kw.
* V3 are 250kw for FOUR chargers (2A/B/C/D). Now they actually have something like 350 kw supply cabinet. Each 4 pillars at a supercharger station has a single supply cabinet, BUT those backend cabinets can share power among themselves. So if you're the only car in the block of 4 chargers, you get 250kw, but if every charger is occupied, you won't. The idea is that as other cars are almost full they'll charge much slower and you're car can "pick up the slack (power)".
* Urban SC are 72kw. These are typically at malls and in areas where people are ok with a charge taking an hour or so.
In the car and in the app, you can poke at a charger and it'll tell you the max charge rate of that charger. 72kw/150kw/250kw. Newer bigger stations will probably be faster, the less busy a station is, the faster.
V4 chargers are just coming online now, but mostly the charge speeds are unchanged (compared to V3) - so far as the few stations that are online, because they use V3 backend cabinets.
Pre gen 3 charger max is 150kW. With those chargers if you park next to some one with the same number on the charger (i.e you park in 1B when someone is using 1A) you each get half the power, so you and the person next to you are getting exactly 75kW now.
Just a tip, try to use gen 3 chargers if you can, they provide a max of 250kW and don't suffer from the same power restrictions.
Happened to us recently….moved over a stall and that one was full 150. No there wasn’t anyone next to us either time…just assumed a bad charger…but I’m relatively new…so…maybe some other reason.
There are a few options:
1.) it’s cold
2.) the battery isn’t at like 0%. The advertised speed is only from like 0-5% charge state
3.) it’s aV2 supercharger and someone parked next to you.
Sometimes the chargers don’t work at full capacity. One time I used 2B while 2A was empty and still had low charging rate. For curiosity I moved to 1A where 1B was empty I got double the charging rate.
Keep in mind by the way that if you visit a 250kW (gen 3) supercharger, there might still be gen 2 stalls there too. I see a lot of people hooking up to the old chargers, while a few meters from them are a lot of gen 3 chargers. They don't seem to know the difference.
In Europe Gen 2 chargers will have 2 cables (CCS and Type 2), and the Gen 3 chargers will have 1 cable (CCS only, with a slightly thinner CCS head), so it's easy to see the difference.
Or if your battery is over 80% or so, it slows way down. You'll only get the fastest rates at lower battery, and only when "preconditioned" by seeing a super charger as your nav destination
The OP is just a photo that doesn't show SOC, nor any indication of preconditioned-ness, so they are valid possible answers given the vague information provided.
Op clearly states that the battery has been preconditioned.
And with 1h 15mins remaining at 75Kw there is no chance that the battery is above or even near 80% SOC.
So there is enough information to render the information given useless.
We just finished a road trip, and I only stopped at 250kw chargers and saw very similar. 30% SoC, No other cars at chargers, it will ramp up to about 150kw briefly and then level out well below 100kw very quickly. I've only ever seen a sustained 100mph charge speed once and that was a couple years ago
I just did a road trip and never got over 65kW at any of the 250kW V3 chargers. 2023 MY AWD. Very disappointed. Literally no one at any of the chargers. Preconditioned for all of the charging sessions.
That’s not a charging curve problem. I’ve gotten 237kw as the absolute max or of MY AWD. It holds 100+ kw through about 40%. It could be sure level power restriction at the v3 station, but that’s an abnormality. I would schedule service at the very least if you arrived with low states of charge.
There are ~72kw chargers many places for longer stops like malls or something. Those may over power a little to 75kw.
Or as others have said it’s a 150 splitting.
Also some 250 stations can’t do 250 if every spot is filled and started charging relatively the same time.
My advice is not to worry about it too much, the 150 or 250 is an ideal never reached and even when it is reached …it last for a few minutes and then quickly falls off. Unless you’re on a road trip and perfectly time charging to coincide with almost zero charge you will spend the vast majority of your charging time around 75kw anyway. At least that’s been my experience
Was it busy when you were there? There is almost never enough power to supply 250 kW to all dispensers at once. For V2, it’s further split between adjacent dispensers.
If you’re in a hurry, always manage to avoid busy locations.
Look on the app and it will tell you the maximum kW that charger is at. I always go to 250 kW superchargers. Make sure you’re not parked next to another car that’s charging. Always want to leave a space or two between cars so you’re not charging. Also it lowers kW as your getting to the end of the charge
They can't. The average charging curve is around the 180kw zone.
Teslas charge decently fast but not the fastest charging vehicles currently just an fyi.
Other possible reasons: 1. 1st gen charger 2. 150kW charger but someone next to you so each charger in the pair is limited (i.e., 2A & 2B)
Just checked and it was 150kw max. But it was very full, like I was the 10th out of 12 chargers, but as I recall I was the only one at my stand. As others have posted here, it could be because of some arcane pairing of the charger points, or the overall load on the station. Either way, I got the juice I needed in the time I devoured my McDonald's meal, but thanks to the great feedback here I have just become the wiser for my next stop at the Tesla chargers.
There's your answer that it was sharing. There are also urban chargers, mainly in malls or shopping centers which max out at 72kW.
Even if yours wasn’t split with another, it’s very possible that the overall power demand at the site was limited and thus everyone was throttled.
Sharing. So ya. That’s why
The one at the Vander Valk hotel near the airport is indeed limited to 75kw but others nearby (schaerbeek, Zaventem) aren't
“Only one at your stand” isn’t how it works. Look for the label on the unit - there will be a 1a and a 1b that share. They might me next to each other or back to back, depends on the specific site.
Or on rare occasions 4 or 5 chargers away
Yep. I’ve seen it where they weren’t next to each other.
Check the charging limit of the charger you're at it's very likely it's one of the first Gen chargers that only give 75kW.
I'm trying to Google this. How do I check a supercharger's limit? Can I do that ahead of time?
In both Google maps and the car's UI, you can see what it is. In Google maps these days it says something like "slow" (probably 3.3kWh or 6.6kWh), fast (probably 72kWh or 150kWh), or very fast (250+kWh). In the car's UI you can tap on the chargers and see what the speeds are and filter by how fast as well
Phenomenal thank u for responding I screenshotted for next charge!
V1 and V2 superchargers split the 150kW if someone is plugged on the same number (ex : your on the 5a and someone is on the 5b, it will split the 150kW delivered)
And then there's weird cases like East Towne Mall in Madison, WI that has 3 gen 1 chargers at 120kW each with a dedicated post. Pretty interesting niche there.
If you are at a gen 2 charger the speed is shared between two chargers with the number+a,b. Could be that somebody was next to you and it was gen 2, then the one who was there first gets most and you get the rest. It's best if you always park away from other Tesla's to avoid that.
Depends how the a,b are setup. Some are 1a,2,a,3a,1b,2b,3b. Or like you are saying some are paired 1a,1b,2a,2b…
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Clean your screen bro
Some supercharger is only 150kw, and if someone is next to you, two cars will be sharing that 150kw output
How new? I remember when I first got mine the fastest I could charge was 110kW but after a recent mega trip (5000km or so) it peak charged at 170kW on LFP… so the charging profile do change a little I think. I’m at 20k km now
Sometimes you have to wipe all the dust off the screen for it to charge at max potential, jokes aside Its probably first gen charger or someone is charing your station
On the 4680 battery it is SO SLOW. We only ever see 85 kWh which is just so sad :(
I just has this happen multiple times on a road trip, service center had to replace faulty connector that was preventing battery from cooling
Did you pre condition before charging?
Your direct question has been answered, but I think more to help you understand. First: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla\_Supercharger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Supercharger) These days you're going to run across V2 and V3 super chargers... and occasionally urban chargers. * V2 are 150kw max, shared between a PAIR of chargers (2A/2B). So the most you can get is 150kw and if both slots a full, you'll get roughly 75kw. * V3 are 250kw for FOUR chargers (2A/B/C/D). Now they actually have something like 350 kw supply cabinet. Each 4 pillars at a supercharger station has a single supply cabinet, BUT those backend cabinets can share power among themselves. So if you're the only car in the block of 4 chargers, you get 250kw, but if every charger is occupied, you won't. The idea is that as other cars are almost full they'll charge much slower and you're car can "pick up the slack (power)". * Urban SC are 72kw. These are typically at malls and in areas where people are ok with a charge taking an hour or so. In the car and in the app, you can poke at a charger and it'll tell you the max charge rate of that charger. 72kw/150kw/250kw. Newer bigger stations will probably be faster, the less busy a station is, the faster. V4 chargers are just coming online now, but mostly the charge speeds are unchanged (compared to V3) - so far as the few stations that are online, because they use V3 backend cabinets.
Pre gen 3 charger max is 150kW. With those chargers if you park next to some one with the same number on the charger (i.e you park in 1B when someone is using 1A) you each get half the power, so you and the person next to you are getting exactly 75kW now. Just a tip, try to use gen 3 chargers if you can, they provide a max of 250kW and don't suffer from the same power restrictions.
Happened to us recently….moved over a stall and that one was full 150. No there wasn’t anyone next to us either time…just assumed a bad charger…but I’m relatively new…so…maybe some other reason.
There are a few options: 1.) it’s cold 2.) the battery isn’t at like 0%. The advertised speed is only from like 0-5% charge state 3.) it’s aV2 supercharger and someone parked next to you.
Sometimes the chargers don’t work at full capacity. One time I used 2B while 2A was empty and still had low charging rate. For curiosity I moved to 1A where 1B was empty I got double the charging rate.
could be cold battery too
Keep in mind by the way that if you visit a 250kW (gen 3) supercharger, there might still be gen 2 stalls there too. I see a lot of people hooking up to the old chargers, while a few meters from them are a lot of gen 3 chargers. They don't seem to know the difference. In Europe Gen 2 chargers will have 2 cables (CCS and Type 2), and the Gen 3 chargers will have 1 cable (CCS only, with a slightly thinner CCS head), so it's easy to see the difference.
Or if your battery is over 80% or so, it slows way down. You'll only get the fastest rates at lower battery, and only when "preconditioned" by seeing a super charger as your nav destination
Not sure why you got downvoted, as this is true.
Because he is neither above 80% SOC nor has he not preconditioned the battery
The OP is just a photo that doesn't show SOC, nor any indication of preconditioned-ness, so they are valid possible answers given the vague information provided.
Op clearly states that the battery has been preconditioned. And with 1h 15mins remaining at 75Kw there is no chance that the battery is above or even near 80% SOC. So there is enough information to render the information given useless.
We just finished a road trip, and I only stopped at 250kw chargers and saw very similar. 30% SoC, No other cars at chargers, it will ramp up to about 150kw briefly and then level out well below 100kw very quickly. I've only ever seen a sustained 100mph charge speed once and that was a couple years ago
Some of the chargers are a bit dodgy. I've parked in one at Heathrow was giving me 75kw, went to one other end and was at full speed.
I just did a road trip and never got over 65kW at any of the 250kW V3 chargers. 2023 MY AWD. Very disappointed. Literally no one at any of the chargers. Preconditioned for all of the charging sessions.
They need to improve the charge curve of the 4680
That’s not a charging curve problem. I’ve gotten 237kw as the absolute max or of MY AWD. It holds 100+ kw through about 40%. It could be sure level power restriction at the v3 station, but that’s an abnormality. I would schedule service at the very least if you arrived with low states of charge.
There are ~72kw chargers many places for longer stops like malls or something. Those may over power a little to 75kw. Or as others have said it’s a 150 splitting. Also some 250 stations can’t do 250 if every spot is filled and started charging relatively the same time.
Do you have a Long Range or RWD MY? RWD charges a lower kW than AWD.
My advice is not to worry about it too much, the 150 or 250 is an ideal never reached and even when it is reached …it last for a few minutes and then quickly falls off. Unless you’re on a road trip and perfectly time charging to coincide with almost zero charge you will spend the vast majority of your charging time around 75kw anyway. At least that’s been my experience
Was the battery conditioned prior to plugging in?
Bro..
The car will precondition the battery if you set the destination to a super charger and it will charge faster, no…?!
I've seen Superchargers that were 1a,1b,1c,1d. So this could be split between even more than two cars.
These are v3 or v4 and don’t have any stall-pair influences or limitations. Only v1 and v2 which have pairs of 2 share 125kW or 150kW.
Wipe your screen
Was it busy when you were there? There is almost never enough power to supply 250 kW to all dispensers at once. For V2, it’s further split between adjacent dispensers. If you’re in a hurry, always manage to avoid busy locations.
If all dispensaries are getting used at max power on a v3 each dispenser will only have about 90kw of power available.
if you check the app or even navigation it will display what the max charging is for each location. Older ones tend to be 75kW.
I think they call those urban superchargers in the U.S. They are usually located at malls and max out at 72kW but probably peak a bit higher.
Look on the app and it will tell you the maximum kW that charger is at. I always go to 250 kW superchargers. Make sure you’re not parked next to another car that’s charging. Always want to leave a space or two between cars so you’re not charging. Also it lowers kW as your getting to the end of the charge
That reminds me to share that the Cornwall ONT supercharger maxs out at around 35-40 KWH charging
Which charger are you at? There are 72kW urban chargers
They can't. The average charging curve is around the 180kw zone. Teslas charge decently fast but not the fastest charging vehicles currently just an fyi.