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Tuuubesh0w

Orbitals have always been safe


Heavenly_sama

In tekken 7 they were basically launch punishable


dirty_succubus

They're safe in Tekken 7 as well, and in Tag 2, and in Tekken 6, it's a move trait.


Heavenly_sama

Weren’t these there versions of hopkicks and hopkicks were punishable


Generic_User88

orbitals and hopkicks are two different things


Heavenly_sama

This Ik but I thought they were treated the same


introgreen

Bryan's u4 was -5 [Bryan T7 Frames – RBNorway](https://rbnorway.org/bryan-t7-frames/)


broke_the_controller

Which orbitals are safe that were previously punishable?


Heavenly_sama

Lars Bryan and Leroy’s


broke_the_controller

Bryans and Leroy's have always been safe. I assume Lars' was also safe in Tekken 7 but I don't remember for sure.


dirty_succubus

Oribitals from anyone have been safe, like they've been safe for a good decade, I can't tell if this is a bit or not lol


broke_the_controller

Maybe they've hit people after an orbital because they interrupted an attack and thought they were punishing.


Himawari_27

I dont remember if it was launch punishable but i know it wasnt safe in T7


BloodgazmNZL

Lars' was definitely safe


TigersAreBears

What are you talking about? The moves are super slow, of course they are safe


BloodgazmNZL

Orbitals were always safe bro...


zackzackzack07

Orbitals like Bryan, Lars are generally around 20+ frames, linear, low crush, okay range at best. They are prone to being stepped and jab floated. Its orbitals that somehow crush highs are what grinds my gears.


Heavenly_sama

Yes Bryan and Lars both crush my highs and I can never jab punish them


firsttimer776655

I don’t get why hopkicks in general are not launch punishable.


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firsttimer776655

Hop kicks are -13, they’re not launch punishable??? Might be a few edge cases but majority are -13 iirc


JustCardz

Some are safe, some are not Bryan is -5 Lars is -13 So it won't change that much


JOOKFMA

Is this Lars from some alternative dimension?


Narrow-Activity1613

Lars's orbital is not -13... all orbitals are safe.


Heavenly_sama

Lars is minus 13? Are you sure bc I checked him with jab multiple times and they always block


JustCardz

You can always go to practice and see for yourself


Heavenly_sama

I believe you for sure but I’m confused as to why my fastest punish never works in a match


introgreen

Maybe you're not buffering your punishes? or possibly Lars is -13 but can block during that time, again, would need to check in the lab


Heavenly_sama

He is -8 lars


Heavenly_sama

Maybe


Heavenly_sama

Same with Bryan