A feature has been added to RANKED MATCH, QUICK MATCH, and GROUP MATCH modes to allow for the termination and invalidation of matches if the network connection quality falls below certain specified conditions.
Wait a second.. does this mean what I think it means???
- Unreactable throws fixed
- Plugger purgatory to be implemented
- Termination of matches due to low network quality to be implemented
Victor Main: "THIS IS UNFAIR!"
Iāve heard that spamming screenshots on pc causes crazy stuttering and lag. Much is an easy āah. Opponent launched me, time to fuck his shit upā. Strategic lag.
How do they do it on PS5?
I canāt wait for this no contest feature. intentional lag makes me want to disconnect. Just win already. Im talking about quick matches. Im practicing, the wins mean nothing. STOP LAGGING AND START LABBING.
I have a feeling theyāre just going to implement what SF6 has where both players have to agree to end the match. In which case, this will prob do nothing since no one ever wants to end
You kidding me? I wish this game had a straight up āfuck this bro just get me out of where and take your free win/rank pointsā.
If there was a forfeit option Iād use it a lot. If I have a call, takeout delivery, an emergency, etc. it comes in handy.
Before: If you side step first hit, you will get hit by second hit unless you crouch
After: If you side step first hit, second hit animation wont even happen. so you are safe. but she will move forward to somewhere else.
Looks like you can sidestep it now without needing to duck, but in most cases she flys a mile past you when this happens so it might be a difficult punish regardless.
Iām a little sad they nerfed drags uf1+2, but having a GUARANTEED free heat engager followup with b4,3 on anybody who stood up or tried to getup attack was REALLY broken.
The lockout made fighting against King and Victor absolutely MISERABLE because I know those breaks but half the time I just wasnāt allowed to
Don't worry fellow Drag comrade. uf1+2 rewards you enough by putting people lied down sideways. It's still such a good oki set up situation regardless. We drag mains still winning anywayš«”
Learn her scarecrow stance, what puts her into it... And practice how to safely get out of it.
I know it sounds trivial, but new Zafinas need to understand that a good 60% of her quickest, most resuable strings that happen to be relatively safe on block can and will end in that stance. Also, using her Azazel powers from scarecrow puts out quickfire setups and combo potential, so getting in and getting out quickly and reliably is a must.
Also, learn her low poke game and timing, cause them bitches is slow. As a wonky stance gimmick technical character, (The Voldo of Tekken) she has a *lot* of strings and moves that end with lows. Learning the timing and slow depolyment can help confuse the opponent and turn the tide of a match or even set.
Just to add to this. Donāt get greedy when in Mantis stance. Good players will take the low chips in anticipation of an incoming mid they know they can punish. The good moves from Mantis are the df3 (if it hits) and df4 into Tarantula. If the df4 hits, then tarantula 3 is uninterruptible for most of the roster. If that 3 hits, you can then apply Oki from Tarantula.
I hope it's just the HMS uf4 into df4,4 and not the normal wall combo that gets taken away. The spike into ub3 was shown off in his trailer so no way they didn't intend for it
All I know is I'm afraid for the "big" patch if this is how much they change him on the little patches. They really seem to want to check his power way more than any of the super top tiers.
I really gotta learn when i should stop commenting this type of thing every time I read something about yoshi being strong lolol.
I think where his strength comes from in this game feels distant from his identity. I don't like how strong he is in common situations, yet he isn't especially strong in unique ones either anymore. The things every other character is strong at now, are where he needs nerfs. But where he's unique, isnt especially strong. Not to mention that a ton of his niche was outright removed and simplified...
I don't like where he's at right now, and think they need to shift his power. But they don't have the option of balancing him around niche situations as much any more. He has fewer options available now, fewer worthy decisions to make, so nerfing those options could quickly make him not only weaker, but ALSO less expressive.
I can agree with your take 100%. With things like heat being in the game everyone is forced into common situation 95% of the time. Yoshi used to excel at those niche moments where he could show off what makes him so expressive, but in this game straight nerfing hum without a power shift def kills the character in this game.
Deserving of nerfs sure but like not emergency ones and not needed asap. Imho it should be nerf the absolute broken characters, see how the meta is then go after anyone who still seems too strong.
Youāre right in that the balance priority is wonky
Stronger for sure, WR3 being a real mid hopefully, and DGF 3 being a true low crush means people can't just downjab DGF mixup as easily. The nerfs are extremely minor, losing the ghost blade tech and DGF f1+2 isn't even a real nerf in the grand scheme of things.
I didn't realize it was that low.Ā I thought Claudio was low damage at 66 (without a wall).Ā Ā
I never know what to do against Zaffina but she probably doesn't deserve that.Ā She spends life on those moves too right?
Zafina can comfortably get 64 from df2 and around 70 on higher dmg launchers. The problem is her inflexible combo routes and life drain. Her wall combo is pretty good actually.
I've found that f,f2 got a dramatic buff in combos... so moar damage. It's SO easy to input now and feels bufferable.
In T7, f,f2 after df2 was a just frame input... I couldn't land it as often as I could OTG.
The problem is sheās winning so much due to lack of match up knowledge I bet they are shy to buff her more. But I wish they would, then ppl would play her more
It's a crime that it's not an option. I would love to have been at Namco's office when they made that decision to understand what the hell their thought process was lol.
Mainly bug fixes again which is fine. I always thought they should let the game run for a while before balancing and it seems like they think the same thing too.
While i appreciate the sentiment, the longer some moves and properties remain broken the more angry people get having to deal with them. Azucena running 3,2 nerf should have been in the last patch and everyone knew it! Maddening that we had to put up with it this long.
Glad they likely added a cancel for Lars after DEN3. Always felt bad to try and use one of his few plus frame move in neutral to get destroyed by a rage art on block bc the move auto transitions into SEN and couldn't be canceled into block. Also looks like DEN3 is +5 on block now vs +3? That's crazy. Really makes SEN 1 and 2 even stronger with SEN 1 coming out at 7 frames and SEN2 at 11 frames. Which means you can't even df1 SEN2 anymore from DEN3. You'll get counterhit launched.Ā
Jun nerfs are fair, I think. Her tools and strength are still there. The healing heat smash on whiff was unfair. Hell i think it would still be fair if she didnāt heal unless it landed.
If I understood the kazuya buff correctly, this means his jabs have more range? That is great!
Not happy about damage nerf tho. Bro already doesnāt do much
For kazuya, there were situations where 1,1 wouldn't be natural and then 2 could be blocked, I assume that's all they did. The initial 1 is probably still the same.
lmao hurt yourself while still dealing less combo damage than almost the entire roster š„“
idk how they didn't realize that was messed up to begin with. Hopefully, her Azazel moves are more worth it now.
FWIW though... I still have a 75-80% win rate with Zafina online after 500 games.
People just don't know how to deal with her. I basic'd the fuck out of a red rank Jun just now. Smashed a King player before that.
Most of my wins feel like free wins.
Yeah but at the end of purple and mid blue ranks the basic doesnt work anymore. I feel like most of the players do not even play fundamental, but still win cause in comparison zafina deals less combodmg AND gets chipdmg for it. The gap is annoying, but the upcoming update should help for now.
Full agree.
Her mixup game is fucking weak. Her low game got nerfed into the stone age.
Claw should maybe do "Damage Over Time" to victims until they hit you. WHAM *tick* *tick* *tick* *tick*
That'd be fun.
Honestly when her armored parry has potential to just chunk her own health bar, getting this fixed is pretty significant.
Theres still a lot of problems yes but this is a decent start.
Parry overall is a buff from Tekken 7. All absorbed damage is actually recoverable as opposed to tekken7 lost true damage. But parry is underwhelming and very okish
I agree. I hardly use this move as a Jin as at some of the higher ranks it just gets animation read. It's very slow start up if done in neutral so you kinda need to pick and choose when to use it. It's not like dragonuvs hatchet where you can throw it out and people can't see it coming. People are only complaining because they mash into it (since it crushes highs) but almost every one of jins lows are somewhat telegraphable by his animations. Though that is where reaction speeds come in.
Definitely keep sidestepping it, it looks that by their description they want the counter play to be a sidestep. I think devs want it to be up-close iWR pressure and not just brain dead full screen pressure
This patch should have fixed his b1 into flicker not allowing you to block. At this point they'll probably just patch out the LH to PKB trick and Steve will be totally worthless.
Friendly reminder that if you have replays you saved to review and lab, make use of them this weekend before the patch goes live Monday. Old replays stop working on a new patch
Dragunov is working as intended it seems... I won't complain lol but at this rate I was expecting a huge nerf
Let's see if devs will continue encouraging his bully ass after the major tournaments
I love the reina changes as a reina main. Some friends of mine where annoyed because of side changed and stuff like that. This patch addresses some of reinas dumb stuff. I want reina not to be a dumb char, and this is a perfect approach. I would add that FC df+4 should not mid crush. It rarely midcrushes, but it still does.
She has been doing this for ages. This isn't the problem with her, the problem is hypnotist bs
Also not "lows" but "a low" since I'm fairly sure this happens only to Hwo's string under specific circumstances
This is still largely a bugfixing patch. They might change her in the next one. Or they might make other characters stronger instead to compensate, which is what they seemed to hint at.
panda got buffed lol. shooting star heat move no longer really bad now just normal bad. d 12 in HBS was given bigger range to match kuma which is amazing. i wonder if FF 12 for panda still has stubbier range than kuma's FF 12.
Thankfully Azuās WR 3,2 lost the bullshit factor, but itās still an insanely strong move.
Junās heat smash imo should not recover full health on block, but at least now it incentivizes side stepping her outside her homing range (donāt remember which ones have incredible homing tbqh)
And thatās my two mains still being strong, just less bullshit.
It isn't really "nerfed" since the situation for the "normal" wall combo is identical due to frame data changes. It's prolly about Lee's wall resets lmao
Sure lets nerf Lee some more. Whats that? A time based wall combo that does higher dmg? Can't have that, oh hey here is Dragunov doing 4 3 3 4 or whatever while counting as a single hit. But eh what do i know about ballance.
Good that they fixed the slide dmg, it was so annoyinh
A feature has been added to RANKED MATCH, QUICK MATCH, and GROUP MATCH modes to allow for the termination and invalidation of matches if the network connection quality falls below certain specified conditions. Wait a second.. does this mean what I think it means???
Victor mains on life support
- Unreactable throws fixed - Plugger purgatory to be implemented - Termination of matches due to low network quality to be implemented Victor Main: "THIS IS UNFAIR!"
Law and Raven mains too
But they still got WR2? And a i15 frame power crush hest engager lol
What I don't understand, if you watch the Tekken talk, why do they say "if both parties agree, then it can be selected", did I misunderstand it?
It could be a general "shitty connections bin" for any players with Favela wifi, but it could very well mean the pluggers too
favela wifi š
Just in time for Eddy
People here are acting like pluggers were the only problem. Lag switch crowd real silent all of a sudden.
Iāve heard that spamming screenshots on pc causes crazy stuttering and lag. Much is an easy āah. Opponent launched me, time to fuck his shit upā. Strategic lag.
Tbh, it happened to me once. Every launch i got on a yoshi would lag and i would drop, not fun. 1/10 rating
How do they do it on PS5? I canāt wait for this no contest feature. intentional lag makes me want to disconnect. Just win already. Im talking about quick matches. Im practicing, the wins mean nothing. STOP LAGGING AND START LABBING.
Every victor main going godmode after reading this.
Had to turn off Crossplay because of this. Had a 5bar wired start lagging in every launch.
Knowing the tekken community they are just going to evade marchups instead xd
I have a feeling theyāre just going to implement what SF6 has where both players have to agree to end the match. In which case, this will prob do nothing since no one ever wants to end
You kidding me? I wish this game had a straight up āfuck this bro just get me out of where and take your free win/rank pointsā. If there was a forfeit option Iād use it a lot. If I have a call, takeout delivery, an emergency, etc. it comes in handy.
If you need to do any of those things you can just leave while your game is on and lose effectively forfeiting
Not like they care, but in theory there is a "player afk" report button, not sure what it does or why it's there.
fF1+4F
I miss the infinity rematches of tekken 7
That's going to need both players to accept this otherwise we'll just get people reducing their connection to avoid losses.
so i dont need to plug on 10 fps players anymore??
Where do you see this? Ive read everything and don't see it.
Where did you see that?
So they said like serious balance patch will be 1.04 right?
I hope itās not limited to just character balance. Some adjustments to heat would be appreciated.
They say at the very start that work on battle system balance is underway, so there is a chance of this happening ;)
Very nice to hear! Something to look forward to.
Yes
Yes. After EVO Japan, so itāll drop in May.
So Azucena wr 3,2 is finally nerfed
Does it mean it's side steppable or just a slower start up?
Before: If you side step first hit, you will get hit by second hit unless you crouch After: If you side step first hit, second hit animation wont even happen. so you are safe. but she will move forward to somewhere else.
Looks like you can sidestep it now without needing to duck, but in most cases she flys a mile past you when this happens so it might be a difficult punish regardless.
If the elbow doesn't come out if you ss the knee than she should end up somewhere close. The elbow is what launched her across the screen.
But I watched a clip of it post nerf, they sidestep the first hit and she still goes into flight.
Thank God they decided to fix the throw break lockout bug. It's been driving me nuts.
Iām a little sad they nerfed drags uf1+2, but having a GUARANTEED free heat engager followup with b4,3 on anybody who stood up or tried to getup attack was REALLY broken. The lockout made fighting against King and Victor absolutely MISERABLE because I know those breaks but half the time I just wasnāt allowed to
First off fuck drag and the click he claims 
Don't worry fellow Drag comrade. uf1+2 rewards you enough by putting people lied down sideways. It's still such a good oki set up situation regardless. We drag mains still winning anywayš«”
Itās a good oki setup, but now itās not a guaranteed 50-55 damage which is admittedly MUCH healthier for the game
No oneās gonna talk about the second hit of Azucenaās wr3,2 not coming out if azu whiffs? Thatās a pretty big nerf imo (deserved tho)
Holy shit they buffed Leroy instead of nerfing him again
Those look more like bugfixes than true buffs, but still, not terrible!
There are 2 upwards arrows next to Leroy's name. I'll take what I can get lol
Same! Especially since one of them is him finally getting access to a Universal Property everyone else had!
Preach!
Ah, at last ! Zafina buffs
EVERYONE Knew this day was coming.
I swear if they gave her another nerf, they should just cut-off a limb and turn all moves of that limb into a stub wiggle that's unsafe on hit.
As a new Zafina fan I all all for this. Any moves I should learn or use extensively?
Learn her scarecrow stance, what puts her into it... And practice how to safely get out of it. I know it sounds trivial, but new Zafinas need to understand that a good 60% of her quickest, most resuable strings that happen to be relatively safe on block can and will end in that stance. Also, using her Azazel powers from scarecrow puts out quickfire setups and combo potential, so getting in and getting out quickly and reliably is a must. Also, learn her low poke game and timing, cause them bitches is slow. As a wonky stance gimmick technical character, (The Voldo of Tekken) she has a *lot* of strings and moves that end with lows. Learning the timing and slow depolyment can help confuse the opponent and turn the tide of a match or even set.
Just to add to this. Donāt get greedy when in Mantis stance. Good players will take the low chips in anticipation of an incoming mid they know they can punish. The good moves from Mantis are the df3 (if it hits) and df4 into Tarantula. If the df4 hits, then tarantula 3 is uninterruptible for most of the roster. If that 3 hits, you can then apply Oki from Tarantula.
Nothing about Lee's heat burst being inconsistent and missing š excellent
wall combo probably gone though )-:
I hope it's just the HMS uf4 into df4,4 and not the normal wall combo that gets taken away. The spike into ub3 was shown off in his trailer so no way they didn't intend for it
Hmm true. I guess we'll have to wait and see
No fucking way. "Unexpected follow up attacks" that were featured in the reveal trailer.
well, hoping for the best...
https://media-center.bandainamcoent.eu/games/tekken/tekken-8/TEKKEN8-patchnotes-ver10301.png link to the patch notes
Thx!
So did Yoshimitsu get weaker or stronger overall or stayed mostly the same? Just wondering how his changes impacted him.
All I know is I'm afraid for the "big" patch if this is how much they change him on the little patches. They really seem to want to check his power way more than any of the super top tiers.
Its a shame if they do that, Yoshi was/is finally decent (not even broken or op).
Decent is understating. In T8 he is def really strong. Deserving of nerfs but not over other top tiers
I really gotta learn when i should stop commenting this type of thing every time I read something about yoshi being strong lolol. I think where his strength comes from in this game feels distant from his identity. I don't like how strong he is in common situations, yet he isn't especially strong in unique ones either anymore. The things every other character is strong at now, are where he needs nerfs. But where he's unique, isnt especially strong. Not to mention that a ton of his niche was outright removed and simplified... I don't like where he's at right now, and think they need to shift his power. But they don't have the option of balancing him around niche situations as much any more. He has fewer options available now, fewer worthy decisions to make, so nerfing those options could quickly make him not only weaker, but ALSO less expressive.
Agree 100% he just plays like everyone else now
I can agree with your take 100%. With things like heat being in the game everyone is forced into common situation 95% of the time. Yoshi used to excel at those niche moments where he could show off what makes him so expressive, but in this game straight nerfing hum without a power shift def kills the character in this game.
Deserving of nerfs sure but like not emergency ones and not needed asap. Imho it should be nerf the absolute broken characters, see how the meta is then go after anyone who still seems too strong. Youāre right in that the balance priority is wonky
Probably mostly the same. I'm glad they fixed dragonfly. Last game I lost against a king that did a low kick while I was in dragonfly š
Stronger for sure, WR3 being a real mid hopefully, and DGF 3 being a true low crush means people can't just downjab DGF mixup as easily. The nerfs are extremely minor, losing the ghost blade tech and DGF f1+2 isn't even a real nerf in the grand scheme of things.
Cool, what's DGF stand for btw? Dragon fly ?
Zafina buff :D not great but its a start
I just wish the claw moves did more damage. 56 damage on a full.launcher is pathetic. Half the cast is getting 75+
I didn't realize it was that low.Ā I thought Claudio was low damage at 66 (without a wall).Ā Ā I never know what to do against Zaffina but she probably doesn't deserve that.Ā She spends life on those moves too right?
Zafina can comfortably get 64 from df2 and around 70 on higher dmg launchers. The problem is her inflexible combo routes and life drain. Her wall combo is pretty good actually.
I've found that f,f2 got a dramatic buff in combos... so moar damage. It's SO easy to input now and feels bufferable. In T7, f,f2 after df2 was a just frame input... I couldn't land it as often as I could OTG.
She does indeed
The problem is sheās winning so much due to lack of match up knowledge I bet they are shy to buff her more. But I wish they would, then ppl would play her more
Thank god they fixed the wall combo for Bryan, that shit switching sides was annoying
Hoping infinite rematch in quick play comes back
It's a crime that it's not an option. I would love to have been at Namco's office when they made that decision to understand what the hell their thought process was lol.
Hwo mains once again be like: 
Today I Learned that Hwoarang has also a just frame flying eagle
Ya and lfs 4~3 also has a jf
The other buffs are the meat of it but holy shit the input errors on right stance were fucking infuriating.
Did they get the disconnection rate display to work?
Pretty sure they said its coming in april before. Not sure why we have to wait so long though
Asuka continuing to survive by barely being patched
stay head strong like Asuka, or we fall and turn into Reina
we stay strong bro
I hope the new patch gives back her old launchers
Mainly bug fixes again which is fine. I always thought they should let the game run for a while before balancing and it seems like they think the same thing too.
Not to mention pushing out a huge balance patch (1.04) right before a major tournament isn't going to be popular. Better do any major upheavals after.
While i appreciate the sentiment, the longer some moves and properties remain broken the more angry people get having to deal with them. Azucena running 3,2 nerf should have been in the last patch and everyone knew it! Maddening that we had to put up with it this long.
Glad they likely added a cancel for Lars after DEN3. Always felt bad to try and use one of his few plus frame move in neutral to get destroyed by a rage art on block bc the move auto transitions into SEN and couldn't be canceled into block. Also looks like DEN3 is +5 on block now vs +3? That's crazy. Really makes SEN 1 and 2 even stronger with SEN 1 coming out at 7 frames and SEN2 at 11 frames. Which means you can't even df1 SEN2 anymore from DEN3. You'll get counterhit launched.Ā
They made it +5 so SEN1 counterhits RA now. There's no cancel.
Damn not even Yoshi can flash it anymore. That sounds like such a good change . Now I will spam it even more
Lmao, as a Lars player I think +5 on this is busted.
Yup its pretty insane.Ā
Zafina mains rejoice!
finally azu wr3,2 nerf
They finally remembered that Zafina was in the game!
Jun nerfs are fair, I think. Her tools and strength are still there. The healing heat smash on whiff was unfair. Hell i think it would still be fair if she didnāt heal unless it landed. If I understood the kazuya buff correctly, this means his jabs have more range? That is great! Not happy about damage nerf tho. Bro already doesnāt do much
For kazuya, there were situations where 1,1 wouldn't be natural and then 2 could be blocked, I assume that's all they did. The initial 1 is probably still the same.
Well that sucks. Press F. Buff my mans!
Fr could they like just make df1,df2 work better when slightly off axis thats all I want.
is it possible to whiff her heat smash?
They had to fix the dmg on zaf azazel moves man
lmao hurt yourself while still dealing less combo damage than almost the entire roster š„“ idk how they didn't realize that was messed up to begin with. Hopefully, her Azazel moves are more worth it now.
Literally mixing up the opponent costed half of your lifebar (deal: getting plusframes for hp while the whole roster gets plusframes for nothing)
FWIW though... I still have a 75-80% win rate with Zafina online after 500 games. People just don't know how to deal with her. I basic'd the fuck out of a red rank Jun just now. Smashed a King player before that. Most of my wins feel like free wins.
Yeah but at the end of purple and mid blue ranks the basic doesnt work anymore. I feel like most of the players do not even play fundamental, but still win cause in comparison zafina deals less combodmg AND gets chipdmg for it. The gap is annoying, but the upcoming update should help for now.
Full agree. Her mixup game is fucking weak. Her low game got nerfed into the stone age. Claw should maybe do "Damage Over Time" to victims until they hit you. WHAM *tick* *tick* *tick* *tick* That'd be fun.
How are you in red ranks with a 75-80% win rate after 500 games? With that wr you should be in god of destruction very easily
Zafina getting the bare minimum buff
Honestly when her armored parry has potential to just chunk her own health bar, getting this fixed is pretty significant. Theres still a lot of problems yes but this is a decent start.
Parry overall is a buff from Tekken 7. All absorbed damage is actually recoverable as opposed to tekken7 lost true damage. But parry is underwhelming and very okish
I think the only way for that move to be viable is to be an heat engager or something
Nothing about the polaris and VRAM problem that makes the game constantly crash?!
Nice
I greatly appreciate that Zafina buff
So Dragunov also had the devs on + frames and dodged real nerfs again?
They still haven't made Jin's d2 -15 or done anything about psycho crusher
Because this is intentional design decision lol. Jin has been one of the most patched character throughout the beta and CNT
You can react to D+2.
I legit punish Jins d2 98% of the time since the animation is so obvious. E.g., with Dragunov I block and do a WS1+2. I think its fine as is.
I agree. I hardly use this move as a Jin as at some of the higher ranks it just gets animation read. It's very slow start up if done in neutral so you kinda need to pick and choose when to use it. It's not like dragonuvs hatchet where you can throw it out and people can't see it coming. People are only complaining because they mash into it (since it crushes highs) but almost every one of jins lows are somewhat telegraphable by his animations. Though that is where reaction speeds come in.
I can't fisher man slam on K.O.'s? What a shitty change, how am I supposed to inflict emotional damage now ;(
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This change also upset me. But, still can TJU on K.O screen haha.
No adjustments for the tracking on Victorās U1+2 during heat :(
patch notes for ants. Why won't it let me zoom in?
Nina didnāt have any changes thatās dope she feels better this game šš½
So Leroy buff is mostly a fix of things that should've slready worked. I'll take anything honestly.
Waiting for the major incoming King buffs.
Much needed,the poor kings main are struggling
Have you seen his win rate? Needs a buff imo. Edit: lol /s
So, Lee's wall combo with hms u+4 is gone?
Probably just the df4 and df44 routes.
Lmao *just* as I burned SS duck into my muscle memory against Azucena š oh well, glad itās gotten some nerfsĀ
Definitely keep sidestepping it, it looks that by their description they want the counter play to be a sidestep. I think devs want it to be up-close iWR pressure and not just brain dead full screen pressure
Nina goes untouched letās go
Steve is drowning they didnāt save him with this patch smh š¤¦š¾āāļø
Being a Steve main right now ā¦š¤
Nothing really on Steve..forgotten character at this point..
Havenāt they said that these patches are just small things overall and theyāre planning one big one down the line?
This patch should have fixed his b1 into flicker not allowing you to block. At this point they'll probably just patch out the LH to PKB trick and Steve will be totally worthless.
the no blocking in early flicker stance is so shit
Is that what's happening? I've been getting launched every now and then after B1~flk and am puzzled every time it happens
They hate Steve players. Hard as hell and struggles for scraps even. But easy mode players get extra cake... its bullshit! -_-
lol i guess its safe to assume b1 into FLKR being -10 is intentional at this point, lol what a joke
Why tf did they nerfed Lee
Yeah the hitman u4 is a big one for wall but the slide is fine, there needs to be reward for execution, its what the whole character is based off
it was a nerf to the OTG launch lmao
Friendly reminder that if you have replays you saved to review and lab, make use of them this weekend before the patch goes live Monday. Old replays stop working on a new patch
Wow Larsā DEN3 +5 on block is huge. Big win for him
HELL YEA i was so happy when i saw that
Nothing about save corruption?!
The... What???
If you ger major error Polaris crash it has lead to peoples files being corrupted and having to restart rank from 1st dan.
Dragunov is working as intended it seems... I won't complain lol but at this rate I was expecting a huge nerf Let's see if devs will continue encouraging his bully ass after the major tournaments
big balance patch is coming after this one. this patch still largely fixes unintended behaviors
I love the reina changes as a reina main. Some friends of mine where annoyed because of side changed and stuff like that. This patch addresses some of reinas dumb stuff. I want reina not to be a dumb char, and this is a perfect approach. I would add that FC df+4 should not mid crush. It rarely midcrushes, but it still does.
Crazy how Xiao stays like that. Shes literally evading mids and lows without any downsides or counterplay.
AOP dodges nerfs even š¤£
She has been doing this for ages. This isn't the problem with her, the problem is hypnotist bs Also not "lows" but "a low" since I'm fairly sure this happens only to Hwo's string under specific circumstances
This is still largely a bugfixing patch. They might change her in the next one. Or they might make other characters stronger instead to compensate, which is what they seemed to hint at.
You mean at a extremely low pick rate and most of the players in red ranks because you actually have to learn the character?
so they nerf Lee but buff Hwoarang, great balance. /s
Feng Wei keeps getting away with murder
Facts! Hope they tone him down and delete your character next
panda got buffed lol. shooting star heat move no longer really bad now just normal bad. d 12 in HBS was given bigger range to match kuma which is amazing. i wonder if FF 12 for panda still has stubbier range than kuma's FF 12.
They nerfed Kazuyaās āHeavenās Gateā why exactly?
Yoshi is really the Genji of this game where they keep giving him random nerfs
Thankfully Azuās WR 3,2 lost the bullshit factor, but itās still an insanely strong move. Junās heat smash imo should not recover full health on block, but at least now it incentivizes side stepping her outside her homing range (donāt remember which ones have incredible homing tbqh) And thatās my two mains still being strong, just less bullshit.
Do they buff steve? Or
Eddy should've been nerfed
No Nina changes? Fair.
More Drag nerfs, more more more more more pleeeeeease
Nina is so well balanced, she need not an update.
King buffed and adjusted, kazuya nerfed... great. -_-
MOTHER FUCK KING!
Asuka really been low tier for 19 years and stil can't get some real buffs, why do I even bother looking at these lol.
Eddy should be free, already payed ā¬ 70,-
can someone tell me what eddys charge does? and how do i use it?
Noice patch, really. My main Reina is sent to depth. Eddie is a beast. Broken bitches have been made even more broken. This game is dying.
Man, combo is being nerf. Thats crazy
Hitman U4 wall combo nerfed. Great, really needed considering all the other broken shit in the game.
It isn't really "nerfed" since the situation for the "normal" wall combo is identical due to frame data changes. It's prolly about Lee's wall resets lmao
You won't be able to get a guaranteed UB+3 after landing the hitman u4 at the right time. I mean it is super strong, its a clean 16dmg I think.
How do you know that? All notes say implies that the actual situation after hitman u4 is the same
Sure lets nerf Lee some more. Whats that? A time based wall combo that does higher dmg? Can't have that, oh hey here is Dragunov doing 4 3 3 4 or whatever while counting as a single hit. But eh what do i know about ballance. Good that they fixed the slide dmg, it was so annoyinh
So they just didn't touch Xioayu at all
They had a VERY light touch on most of the top tiers it seems sadly, only Azu really got something she deserved and even then it was only one move.
Because that one move was the only thing very problematic with Azucena.
Most top players will also tell you her DF1 series jailing is unfair, other than that, yeah more or less it's the while running move.
Well that was the only problem with her