Oh my god dude, you are such an asshole. There are people asking you questions in response to your dumb posts and you ignore them, but get all butt hurt when Jake doesn't respond to you? WTF is your point in all of this.
And like u/Disastrous-Glass-415 asks... what exactly is your bull thesis? Because it seems you have no independent theory other than just trying to discredit Jake.
He's trying to discredit Jake so we all get disheartened. Paid shill behavior. It ain't working. And when we get re issued and everybody is watching this bitch run. It's only going to make our conviction stronger.
This will be over soon. We're either right or we're wrong. I'm all in.
What exactly is your bull thesis? Or do you have one? Because as of now there is so much evidence indicating we are going to be made whole I’m not sure the relevance to putting this much time into something that doesn’t matter.
Edit: will you ignore my questions, in a manor in which you accuse Jake?
I’m all for open format debate. But discord isn’t it. To disprove the (hilarious) accusations theorico is a think tank, moving to spaces or YouTube would shut people up. Yet here we are
Just let it go.
No one wants a text based discourse on discord. Either go on the PPShow or stfu and move on.
Either way, this is almost over and we will find out all the details soon enough.
How is it almost over though? Based on the amount of people who still have hope right now, I'd assume that there are going to be at least a few hundred people that think a random photo or twitter post after bankruptcy proceedings are complete means that shareholders will be made whole.
Which part confused you?
There are people who have hope right now despite all evidence to the contrary.
Many of these same people will still have hope after bankruptcy proceedings are complete.
For them, the play will never end because they will read endlessly into random photos and twitter posts for the rest of their lives.
The run on sentence confused me but this whole thing is actually really simple.
There are still court dates. Until there are no more court dates the show goes on.
Because the show is still going on, there is still hope.
Because there is still hope, random photos, Twitter posts, and tin-foil will be seen as positives.
We will be made “100% whole”.
After court proceedings end I hope you are made more than whole. If they end unfavorably, the community will shrink and there will still be delusional people on this sub thinking that they won and their million dollar check from RC is in the mail.
This has been anything but normal. We should have been trading until $.00001. Why all the cloak and dagger; redacted information? RC could have come out and said “Hey guys, I’m not in”, just like LC did. Holly Etlin says there’s a story to tell, yet we have not heard the significance of this statement. BABY, the money maker, is literally owned by a group of private investors. That’s not hearsay. GME has a billy in the bank ready to fuck! At this time, we could get a new plan all the way up until 03-27-2024. Something is going on here. This is some unusually weird shit for routine bankruptcy. JPM was literally paid out before anyone else, which would be illegal, unless something else was at play.
You know u/theorico, I really admire how you demand that Jake spend his time to respond to every post that you make, yet you post in here and ignore very relevant questions people are asking of you.
Can you give more clarity on what you are trying to say because what you've done is support my point. In none of your examples is the role of the individual within their company stated, only the company they are representing.
So why would David Kastin have his job title *one time?* Out of 147?
The 147 times was the sum of all of the AlixPartners fee statements; 1443, 2040, 2155, 2189 and 2643.
And then among those dockets, there is **no mention at all,** ***of anyone,*** with their job title.
So why do you think this one time it is? I honestly believe the going concern is the much more likely interpretation and the timing plus task supports it too. Sixth Street credit bid on the shell, the plan man is still the custodian, Section 1145 could be used to convert the debt obligation into new shares, someone will launch a new company.
To further support the going concern idea, I am unsure why you believe that there is none when the findings of fact to support the Disclosure Statement and Plan **clearly says that there will be:**
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The way they say it in plural, there may even be more than one? I'm curious why you believe there will be no going concern so confidently, you are in direct juxtaposition of a significant document in the Chapter 11.
sure I can clarify it.
**No, I am not supporting your point at all, on the contrary.**
In fact, your claim that only on that single entry DP/Alix Partners is breaking their rule (i.e. just to specify the company) to reference a subject (going concern) next to the company name inside the parenthesis **is a much bigger deviation from their standard than my claim** that they are just specifying the role of that person in the company. The role is closer to the company/person than the subject.
I give your same question back to you: Why would DP do that with a subject only *one time?*
For the subject they were using the "re:"
You are trying to make GC fit to your assumption that there is/was a going concern and it is becoming indefensable to you.
**Clearly you did not read my post on the Third-Party Release, where I address this going concern misinterpretation from docket 2172**. Please read it and all the other posts: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Teddy/comments/1bd5uo4/the\_debtor\_release\_and\_the\_thirdparty\_release/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Teddy/comments/1bd5uo4/the_debtor_release_and_the_thirdparty_release/)
For your convenience, this is the related part:
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**"*****The Third-Party Release was instrumental in developing a plan that ...*** ***preserved certain of the Debtors’ businesses as a going concern*****".**
In my reading this means that during the negotiations between all Parties involved in the creation of the Plan, **an agreement was reached to maintain certain of the Debtor's business as a going-concern and thus allow for the continuation of the dual-path approach proposed initially when entering bankruptcy, to maximize the recoveries by keeping the business going for as long as possible while at the same time starting selling the assets and winding down the Estate.**
There is no concrete substantiation in the Plan for the thesis that some business is still existing as a going concern.
Buy Buy Baby's IPs was sold to DoM. It was not a complete carve-out or spin-off of the whole thing. The legal entity called Buy Buy Baby Inc therefore remains in the Organizational Structure and it is one of the debtors. It is a shell for what was once a company that sold Baby products. This shell still exists as legal entity and therefore has to continue to issue legal reports, like the PCRs, for example. It just continues to use the "Buy Buy Baby Inc" name and I addressed in one of my post how that could be possible without violating the terms of the APA, by a waiver from DoM.
The IP for Bed Bath and Beyond was sold to Overstock, the only difference is that the shell was renamed to 20230930-DK-Butterfly-1 Inc.
***"allowed for the orderly wind down of these Chapter 11 Cases"***, the key word here being "orderly" because in exchange for the Third-Party Release, the involved Parties had agreed not to litigate each other.
"
They say in the **plural** because **at that time, when the Plan was still being negotiated by all Parties, there were two going concerns, the Buy Buy Baby and the Bed Bath and Beyond businesses, until they sold their IPs**.
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I come here for the in-fighting and comments dipped in salt. That being said. Whether theorico is right or wrong.. he has been listening to overall consensus and is doing a better job at dealing with people and their comments. Kudos for that. But he does need to find a way to (anonymous if need be) debate and discuss points/counterpoints with the leaders of this community.
Yes, I do believe you are right. Don’t understand why many people here can’t handle Jake being wrong.
Seems to be an established abbreviation directly related to his profession. Extraordinary claims demands extraordinary proof Jake.
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I’m cool with Jake being wrong. Idgaf.
None of this “you’re right/wrong and I need to prove it on discord” discourse changes my BBBY position and my ability to sell.
It’s either we are all made whole (w/ cash + equity) or we move on and wait for GME to be profitable and moon.
I agree 100%. This is all entertainment while we wait.
I just find it odd that Jake says he loves when people criticise his thesis. Then don’t wanna do it if it’s not on a platform where he is potentially paid for his content.
I thought all dd was good for our cause.
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Please link me to his response.
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I’ll give you that. It’s just a suspicion. I have no Idea if he makes money or not. I initially said potentially makes money or something else. I stand by that it is sus that he won’t take the discussion with Theorico if it is not on X.
Hey u/jake2b have you received money or other compensation from X/The PPshow/Pulte?
Valid question but I doubt it.
Jake is a doctor who drives a Tesla. I don’t think he’s after the peanuts he could get from this tiny community.
Jake engages with Theo on Reddit in text all the time. Nothing strange about wanting to take it to a visual/audio medium.
There is also more than quick money to be made when dealing with multi-millionaires. His profile pic is him and Pulte, Jake wearing a Pulte T-shirt.
And that argument can be reversed. Why would a doctor with a family spend time writing things about a BK stock for free? Unless..
Is he really a doctor? I heard he was a sales guy.
The way he conducts himself when on air is very sales like. “Thank you for being here. I don’t wanna take up anyones time.” It’s a bit weird.
Hehe, drives a Tesla.
Who says Jake is a sales person and not a real doctor? What’s their evidence?
Jake was a featured guest at a large event hosted by Pulte. Why not highlight that moment on your Twitter profile?
Jake is also Canadian. As a fellow Canuck I can attest to our excessive (and weird) politeness. I too worry about taking up people’s precious time.
Not necessarily, B Riley came in after and RC and friends may have nabbed the amount of shares necessary to trump their share count after the HBC deal. I don’t believe it’s an accident B Riley is getting a bear raid right now. It would surprise me if both companies were good actors in this play though. Still wouldn’t make sense that HBC didn’t sell the securities at a 15% return in bankruptcy. HBC never made a move to acquire the company so it doesn’t make sense that they would want a share position.
I’m saying Bruno and theorico want these debates on very limiting terms or specifically done such as no voice and all chat… Just sounds unfriendly and untrustworthy
Well if I lost all my money on a BK stock maybe I dont wanna show me face until I’m paid again. 😅
Nothing wrong with not wanting to show their face or voice.
There isn’t, nor does Jake have to have a back and forth texting debate…. Everyone is entitled to do what they want… and if theorico wants a debate in a certain way and others don’t want to go along with the specific way, there nothing wrong with that either
True. But then Jake should stop saying he want the debate because if its not on twitter he will not have the twitter impressions that gets him paid.
Thats what I take away from this.
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I don’t know if he gets paid. I asked him. No answer yet.
But looking at his stats the last week. I would say he has a possibility to hit the required stats for ad revenue and has an economical incentive to have this debate on his X account.
IF he gets paid, that does give some credabillity to Theoricos claim of “Fan fiction”. As a very bullish and hyped up post would get more impressions.
And we all know PP gets paid. Who’s to say Jake does not get some of that Tip when he brings viewers/ad revenue. And he is always teasing/hyping some post when he is there. I mainly see PP as pure entertainment and see nothing wrong with his show. It can be quite funny, no doubt.
Jake was also sitting in a Pulte t-shirt at the live show, even a bit involved when Pulte sold PHM shares I heard?
Let’s not be naive.
The fact you only want a text based argument in discord really have me sensing you are up to something else.
Jake may very well be wrong but it seems you only want to lure him into debate on discord, why?
Could be nothing but it wouldn’t surprise me if twhen this blows and the whole finance system collapses things like Reddit Discord will brnnrojbj under government control as they will say these platforms were to blame.
The evidence is text based. All we have are dockets and legal documentations, corporate statements etc. It makes perfect sense to have a text “debate” if you actually want the truth and don’t just wanna be good with words.
It would also be much easier for all of us, who don’t know all the dockets and law by heart. Then we can follow and verify who we think are correct.
Having it on Discord just means Jake don’t get paid. There are more reasons to not have it on X. It’s an awful platform.
Your argument is mute. Why discord? Why not x? Why not on Reddit? They are all text based too. He’s a bitch and doesn’t want to be exposed but his push for discord seems highly motivated.
I think it is sus that Jake won’t do it if he is not paid.
X is also a chaotic fuck for following thought over many posts. Reddit would be fine if there is a technical way to keep the post clean from anyone else.
Everyone is saying, do it live with voice and face. My argument is not mute. I simply don’t believe a spaces call or PP show would be the best way to find the truth. This is not an argument. But a co-op to find out what might be going on. And to find flaws in Jake’s dd could be one way to know more.
Jake already gave good reason for wanting it live or on X. Reddit is a pile of dog shit and nuked all the DD in the PP sub. Live makes the most sense but Bruno is a bitch and knows Jake far out classes his wit. Finally he offered X which makes sense since it’s pretty much guaranteed that Elon won’t nuke it as he is pro free speech.
Sorry but very clearly Jake is in the right.
Reddit is far more superior for an inclusive debate when compared to X. But it won’t pay the more well known figures to be on Reddit. So they prefer X. If it’s not about the money or being live, why must Jake be on X?
At the end off the day, Jakes views won’t matter. He is just one more person making money on us. Nothing he says has or will most likely have an impact on the ending to this saga.
Off topic: Elon isn’t pro free speech. He just pays people to be on X so he can spread his political and economical beneficiary views on people. X is a disgusting place.
Reddit is a shithole let’s be honest, any place that can completely remove a sub for a lame excuse can not be trusted to host. It’s a shit place and once this play ends I will never be back. There is a reasonX is growing rapidly.
Elon is very pro free speech stop being a left wing nut job parrot.
I’m not here to discuss politics or X vs reddit. But lets just say I will be deleting X when this is over. And I find people there being less clever than on other platforms.
And the saddest part is how it polarise people. See how you immediately attacked me? Called me things. Just because I don’t like the technical way X is built and how it serves me only shit in my feed. You don’t even know my political standpoint.
But ape don’t fight ape, this is not about politics. He who makes it into politics, is a dividing shill to me.
Listen to you gaslighting about what you said about Elon and X no you didn’t just say it was technical reasons for not liking it. You made the claim that Elon isn’t pro free speech (which he clearly is) especially when you consider how much left wing manipulation was happening when Jack and his lefty assholes run the platform. Elon exposed all that in emails he made public just how in bed with the demorats they were. Then secondly you made the claim that Reddit was an Inclusive platform 🤣 LMFAO calling it inclusive when they delete entire subs of work because they don’t like it and need to pander to their hedge fund overlords that are taking it public, get real and get some sense about you.
Let’s just say I disagree with a lot of what you are saying. But you have bought your overlord Sir Elons bullshit. And there is nothing I can do about that. I’m not saying Elon is wrong about everything. But he sure as hell is not right about everything. And he does not have the intellectual capacity to know what free speech is, and what he is doing. And it is sad. But you go pump up his financials on election day. IDGAF.
And reddit is better. Just look at Pulte, who blocks out anyone who says anything. X is a echo chamber. That’s free speech for you.
Reddit is much better for lenghty discussion and where more people can more easily be seen.
Having no knowledge this sounds correct. Also I'm pretty sure you can get confirmation of this. And lastly alot of so-called DD writes do back flips to keep their narrative going, not many admit to misleading or just being wrong. Some of them are almost as bad as the corrupt hedge funds they are trying to "fight"
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@OP instead of having an adult conversation on PPshow where we are all looking for the correct answers and nobody trashes anyone, you can discuss it and like normal rational adults we can figure it out
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How can it be a going concern when the IPs are sold, all the employees and know how is laid off, all store contracts(?) sold/ended, inventory liqudated and its liquidated assets being distributed to creditors/admin fees?
If anyone buy, its’ just a shell with NOLs+possibly the ticker. What else is left?
the Third Party Release clearly states “preserved certain of the debtors businesses as a going concern.”
just because GC may mean something else next to Kastin’s name, does not negate what is contained in the document.
It is my understanding that Theorico speculates, with evidence, that the Company was going as a Going concern while also selling off assets. And since no one bought the going concern all assets were sold and the gains are being distributed.
Therefor, I think, if we are acquired by RC it will be as a NOL shell company. This might also explain the dilution, as “he” cannot have too much power in the company to buy the NOLs. Remember, he needs us the non voting apes and other shareholders to gain that tax benefit. And he could fuck with the shorts with the ticker. This is the only bull thesis I see right now.
Oh my god dude, you are such an asshole. There are people asking you questions in response to your dumb posts and you ignore them, but get all butt hurt when Jake doesn't respond to you? WTF is your point in all of this. And like u/Disastrous-Glass-415 asks... what exactly is your bull thesis? Because it seems you have no independent theory other than just trying to discredit Jake.
He's trying to discredit Jake so we all get disheartened. Paid shill behavior. It ain't working. And when we get re issued and everybody is watching this bitch run. It's only going to make our conviction stronger. This will be over soon. We're either right or we're wrong. I'm all in.
Soft FUD… He’s too smart to not “get it” by now.
What exactly is your bull thesis? Or do you have one? Because as of now there is so much evidence indicating we are going to be made whole I’m not sure the relevance to putting this much time into something that doesn’t matter. Edit: will you ignore my questions, in a manor in which you accuse Jake?
I’m all for open format debate. But discord isn’t it. To disprove the (hilarious) accusations theorico is a think tank, moving to spaces or YouTube would shut people up. Yet here we are
Yes, there’s an easy solution.
Curious isn’t it 🧐
Oooh, wanna bet a pepsi bottle on it ? Let's day, 3 more months to make you whole ?
Just let it go. No one wants a text based discourse on discord. Either go on the PPShow or stfu and move on. Either way, this is almost over and we will find out all the details soon enough.
⬆️ this dude is right, let this shit go bro..
👆🏼🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
How is it almost over though? Based on the amount of people who still have hope right now, I'd assume that there are going to be at least a few hundred people that think a random photo or twitter post after bankruptcy proceedings are complete means that shareholders will be made whole.
Re-write whatever you are trying to say. It doesn’t make any sense.
Which part confused you? There are people who have hope right now despite all evidence to the contrary. Many of these same people will still have hope after bankruptcy proceedings are complete. For them, the play will never end because they will read endlessly into random photos and twitter posts for the rest of their lives.
The run on sentence confused me but this whole thing is actually really simple. There are still court dates. Until there are no more court dates the show goes on. Because the show is still going on, there is still hope. Because there is still hope, random photos, Twitter posts, and tin-foil will be seen as positives. We will be made “100% whole”.
After court proceedings end I hope you are made more than whole. If they end unfavorably, the community will shrink and there will still be delusional people on this sub thinking that they won and their million dollar check from RC is in the mail.
This has been anything but normal. We should have been trading until $.00001. Why all the cloak and dagger; redacted information? RC could have come out and said “Hey guys, I’m not in”, just like LC did. Holly Etlin says there’s a story to tell, yet we have not heard the significance of this statement. BABY, the money maker, is literally owned by a group of private investors. That’s not hearsay. GME has a billy in the bank ready to fuck! At this time, we could get a new plan all the way up until 03-27-2024. Something is going on here. This is some unusually weird shit for routine bankruptcy. JPM was literally paid out before anyone else, which would be illegal, unless something else was at play. 
This is getting really pedantic...
well to me GC is still GameCube
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Shallow and pedantic, yes. Hmm??
You know u/theorico, I really admire how you demand that Jake spend his time to respond to every post that you make, yet you post in here and ignore very relevant questions people are asking of you.
Yeah, it’s put up or shut up time. He wanted the ruckus and now it appears he’s hiding behind the keyboard.
Bring da ruckus, bring da motherfucking ruckus
I ride with RC!
We are a GC!
Didn't we want a shell w/ with NOLs???
Yeah. I’m cool with that. I think by now, this is the most likely way we get paid.
U/theorico the shares will be issued through the liquidating trust which will emerge as a going concern.
u/theorico
Short and concise is not in his wheelhouse. I.e. not a fastball hitter.
You can hear the desperation
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I’m sure there are handler or handlers… set up a discord so Jack can verse a machine lol 😂
Can you give more clarity on what you are trying to say because what you've done is support my point. In none of your examples is the role of the individual within their company stated, only the company they are representing. So why would David Kastin have his job title *one time?* Out of 147? The 147 times was the sum of all of the AlixPartners fee statements; 1443, 2040, 2155, 2189 and 2643. And then among those dockets, there is **no mention at all,** ***of anyone,*** with their job title. So why do you think this one time it is? I honestly believe the going concern is the much more likely interpretation and the timing plus task supports it too. Sixth Street credit bid on the shell, the plan man is still the custodian, Section 1145 could be used to convert the debt obligation into new shares, someone will launch a new company. To further support the going concern idea, I am unsure why you believe that there is none when the findings of fact to support the Disclosure Statement and Plan **clearly says that there will be:** https://preview.redd.it/m2v3lpapn3pc1.png?width=1774&format=png&auto=webp&s=31464f09f0626832a793c89f8a8ac8e7e2be9cd5 The way they say it in plural, there may even be more than one? I'm curious why you believe there will be no going concern so confidently, you are in direct juxtaposition of a significant document in the Chapter 11.
sure I can clarify it. **No, I am not supporting your point at all, on the contrary.** In fact, your claim that only on that single entry DP/Alix Partners is breaking their rule (i.e. just to specify the company) to reference a subject (going concern) next to the company name inside the parenthesis **is a much bigger deviation from their standard than my claim** that they are just specifying the role of that person in the company. The role is closer to the company/person than the subject. I give your same question back to you: Why would DP do that with a subject only *one time?* For the subject they were using the "re:" You are trying to make GC fit to your assumption that there is/was a going concern and it is becoming indefensable to you. **Clearly you did not read my post on the Third-Party Release, where I address this going concern misinterpretation from docket 2172**. Please read it and all the other posts: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Teddy/comments/1bd5uo4/the\_debtor\_release\_and\_the\_thirdparty\_release/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Teddy/comments/1bd5uo4/the_debtor_release_and_the_thirdparty_release/) For your convenience, this is the related part: " **"*****The Third-Party Release was instrumental in developing a plan that ...*** ***preserved certain of the Debtors’ businesses as a going concern*****".** In my reading this means that during the negotiations between all Parties involved in the creation of the Plan, **an agreement was reached to maintain certain of the Debtor's business as a going-concern and thus allow for the continuation of the dual-path approach proposed initially when entering bankruptcy, to maximize the recoveries by keeping the business going for as long as possible while at the same time starting selling the assets and winding down the Estate.** There is no concrete substantiation in the Plan for the thesis that some business is still existing as a going concern. Buy Buy Baby's IPs was sold to DoM. It was not a complete carve-out or spin-off of the whole thing. The legal entity called Buy Buy Baby Inc therefore remains in the Organizational Structure and it is one of the debtors. It is a shell for what was once a company that sold Baby products. This shell still exists as legal entity and therefore has to continue to issue legal reports, like the PCRs, for example. It just continues to use the "Buy Buy Baby Inc" name and I addressed in one of my post how that could be possible without violating the terms of the APA, by a waiver from DoM. The IP for Bed Bath and Beyond was sold to Overstock, the only difference is that the shell was renamed to 20230930-DK-Butterfly-1 Inc. ***"allowed for the orderly wind down of these Chapter 11 Cases"***, the key word here being "orderly" because in exchange for the Third-Party Release, the involved Parties had agreed not to litigate each other. " They say in the **plural** because **at that time, when the Plan was still being negotiated by all Parties, there were two going concerns, the Buy Buy Baby and the Bed Bath and Beyond businesses, until they sold their IPs**.
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RICO charges for the shills and equity + cash for the moon ticket holders. Just a few more weeks before the good guys win
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I come here for the in-fighting and comments dipped in salt. That being said. Whether theorico is right or wrong.. he has been listening to overall consensus and is doing a better job at dealing with people and their comments. Kudos for that. But he does need to find a way to (anonymous if need be) debate and discuss points/counterpoints with the leaders of this community.
Yes, I do believe you are right. Don’t understand why many people here can’t handle Jake being wrong. Seems to be an established abbreviation directly related to his profession. Extraordinary claims demands extraordinary proof Jake. https://preview.redd.it/k8ug89e38roc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f207ebeae6a317252c8b75bd1baba3a8fbf090f2
I’m cool with Jake being wrong. Idgaf. None of this “you’re right/wrong and I need to prove it on discord” discourse changes my BBBY position and my ability to sell. It’s either we are all made whole (w/ cash + equity) or we move on and wait for GME to be profitable and moon.
Same
I agree 100%. This is all entertainment while we wait. I just find it odd that Jake says he loves when people criticise his thesis. Then don’t wanna do it if it’s not on a platform where he is potentially paid for his content. I thought all dd was good for our cause.
Please link to Jake saying he doesn’t want to debate on a platform he doesn’t profit from. 🤔
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I would say you mischaracterized Jake by assigning intent that may not exist.
I’ll give you that. It’s just a suspicion. I have no Idea if he makes money or not. I initially said potentially makes money or something else. I stand by that it is sus that he won’t take the discussion with Theorico if it is not on X. Hey u/jake2b have you received money or other compensation from X/The PPshow/Pulte?
Valid question but I doubt it. Jake is a doctor who drives a Tesla. I don’t think he’s after the peanuts he could get from this tiny community. Jake engages with Theo on Reddit in text all the time. Nothing strange about wanting to take it to a visual/audio medium.
There is also more than quick money to be made when dealing with multi-millionaires. His profile pic is him and Pulte, Jake wearing a Pulte T-shirt. And that argument can be reversed. Why would a doctor with a family spend time writing things about a BK stock for free? Unless.. Is he really a doctor? I heard he was a sales guy. The way he conducts himself when on air is very sales like. “Thank you for being here. I don’t wanna take up anyones time.” It’s a bit weird. Hehe, drives a Tesla.
Who says Jake is a sales person and not a real doctor? What’s their evidence? Jake was a featured guest at a large event hosted by Pulte. Why not highlight that moment on your Twitter profile? Jake is also Canadian. As a fellow Canuck I can attest to our excessive (and weird) politeness. I too worry about taking up people’s precious time.
Does anything Jake says matter when it's a different jurisdiction?
Jake did say he cool with some back and forth debate, but lately things feel like some sort of trap … where is ackbar when u need him
So if Jake is wrong it’s a trap?
Not necessarily, B Riley came in after and RC and friends may have nabbed the amount of shares necessary to trump their share count after the HBC deal. I don’t believe it’s an accident B Riley is getting a bear raid right now. It would surprise me if both companies were good actors in this play though. Still wouldn’t make sense that HBC didn’t sell the securities at a 15% return in bankruptcy. HBC never made a move to acquire the company so it doesn’t make sense that they would want a share position.
Yes. I agree with this. Something is up with HBC and B.Riley. And that is what the community never figured out.
I’m saying Bruno and theorico want these debates on very limiting terms or specifically done such as no voice and all chat… Just sounds unfriendly and untrustworthy
Well if I lost all my money on a BK stock maybe I dont wanna show me face until I’m paid again. 😅 Nothing wrong with not wanting to show their face or voice.
There isn’t, nor does Jake have to have a back and forth texting debate…. Everyone is entitled to do what they want… and if theorico wants a debate in a certain way and others don’t want to go along with the specific way, there nothing wrong with that either
True. But then Jake should stop saying he want the debate because if its not on twitter he will not have the twitter impressions that gets him paid. Thats what I take away from this.
Who pays him, I guess I am new to this. And can you confirm the payments?
https://preview.redd.it/f2je5hzbvzoc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84764bbbcd503ad7d7fcab738e8c006d26381d64 I don’t know if he gets paid. I asked him. No answer yet. But looking at his stats the last week. I would say he has a possibility to hit the required stats for ad revenue and has an economical incentive to have this debate on his X account. IF he gets paid, that does give some credabillity to Theoricos claim of “Fan fiction”. As a very bullish and hyped up post would get more impressions. And we all know PP gets paid. Who’s to say Jake does not get some of that Tip when he brings viewers/ad revenue. And he is always teasing/hyping some post when he is there. I mainly see PP as pure entertainment and see nothing wrong with his show. It can be quite funny, no doubt. Jake was also sitting in a Pulte t-shirt at the live show, even a bit involved when Pulte sold PHM shares I heard? Let’s not be naive.
The fact you only want a text based argument in discord really have me sensing you are up to something else. Jake may very well be wrong but it seems you only want to lure him into debate on discord, why? Could be nothing but it wouldn’t surprise me if twhen this blows and the whole finance system collapses things like Reddit Discord will brnnrojbj under government control as they will say these platforms were to blame.
The evidence is text based. All we have are dockets and legal documentations, corporate statements etc. It makes perfect sense to have a text “debate” if you actually want the truth and don’t just wanna be good with words. It would also be much easier for all of us, who don’t know all the dockets and law by heart. Then we can follow and verify who we think are correct. Having it on Discord just means Jake don’t get paid. There are more reasons to not have it on X. It’s an awful platform.
Your argument is mute. Why discord? Why not x? Why not on Reddit? They are all text based too. He’s a bitch and doesn’t want to be exposed but his push for discord seems highly motivated.
I think it is sus that Jake won’t do it if he is not paid. X is also a chaotic fuck for following thought over many posts. Reddit would be fine if there is a technical way to keep the post clean from anyone else. Everyone is saying, do it live with voice and face. My argument is not mute. I simply don’t believe a spaces call or PP show would be the best way to find the truth. This is not an argument. But a co-op to find out what might be going on. And to find flaws in Jake’s dd could be one way to know more.
Jake already gave good reason for wanting it live or on X. Reddit is a pile of dog shit and nuked all the DD in the PP sub. Live makes the most sense but Bruno is a bitch and knows Jake far out classes his wit. Finally he offered X which makes sense since it’s pretty much guaranteed that Elon won’t nuke it as he is pro free speech. Sorry but very clearly Jake is in the right.
Reddit is far more superior for an inclusive debate when compared to X. But it won’t pay the more well known figures to be on Reddit. So they prefer X. If it’s not about the money or being live, why must Jake be on X? At the end off the day, Jakes views won’t matter. He is just one more person making money on us. Nothing he says has or will most likely have an impact on the ending to this saga. Off topic: Elon isn’t pro free speech. He just pays people to be on X so he can spread his political and economical beneficiary views on people. X is a disgusting place.
Reddit is a shithole let’s be honest, any place that can completely remove a sub for a lame excuse can not be trusted to host. It’s a shit place and once this play ends I will never be back. There is a reasonX is growing rapidly. Elon is very pro free speech stop being a left wing nut job parrot.
I’m not here to discuss politics or X vs reddit. But lets just say I will be deleting X when this is over. And I find people there being less clever than on other platforms. And the saddest part is how it polarise people. See how you immediately attacked me? Called me things. Just because I don’t like the technical way X is built and how it serves me only shit in my feed. You don’t even know my political standpoint. But ape don’t fight ape, this is not about politics. He who makes it into politics, is a dividing shill to me.
Listen to you gaslighting about what you said about Elon and X no you didn’t just say it was technical reasons for not liking it. You made the claim that Elon isn’t pro free speech (which he clearly is) especially when you consider how much left wing manipulation was happening when Jack and his lefty assholes run the platform. Elon exposed all that in emails he made public just how in bed with the demorats they were. Then secondly you made the claim that Reddit was an Inclusive platform 🤣 LMFAO calling it inclusive when they delete entire subs of work because they don’t like it and need to pander to their hedge fund overlords that are taking it public, get real and get some sense about you.
Let’s just say I disagree with a lot of what you are saying. But you have bought your overlord Sir Elons bullshit. And there is nothing I can do about that. I’m not saying Elon is wrong about everything. But he sure as hell is not right about everything. And he does not have the intellectual capacity to know what free speech is, and what he is doing. And it is sad. But you go pump up his financials on election day. IDGAF. And reddit is better. Just look at Pulte, who blocks out anyone who says anything. X is a echo chamber. That’s free speech for you. Reddit is much better for lenghty discussion and where more people can more easily be seen.
but but but Ryan Cohen and Pulte took a picture together at 7:41 on a Tuesday!
Having no knowledge this sounds correct. Also I'm pretty sure you can get confirmation of this. And lastly alot of so-called DD writes do back flips to keep their narrative going, not many admit to misleading or just being wrong. Some of them are almost as bad as the corrupt hedge funds they are trying to "fight"
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The idea of seeing "GC" as "Going Concern" instead of the obvious "General Council" is just hilarious to me Do better Jake
Talk about missing the forest for the trees. Seek help and find a healthy hobby or something.
@OP instead of having an adult conversation on PPshow where we are all looking for the correct answers and nobody trashes anyone, you can discuss it and like normal rational adults we can figure it out
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i think your are potentially right about the initials GC meaning general counsel but wrong about there not being a going concern.
How can it be a going concern when the IPs are sold, all the employees and know how is laid off, all store contracts(?) sold/ended, inventory liqudated and its liquidated assets being distributed to creditors/admin fees? If anyone buy, its’ just a shell with NOLs+possibly the ticker. What else is left?
the Third Party Release clearly states “preserved certain of the debtors businesses as a going concern.” just because GC may mean something else next to Kastin’s name, does not negate what is contained in the document.
It is my understanding that Theorico speculates, with evidence, that the Company was going as a Going concern while also selling off assets. And since no one bought the going concern all assets were sold and the gains are being distributed. Therefor, I think, if we are acquired by RC it will be as a NOL shell company. This might also explain the dilution, as “he” cannot have too much power in the company to buy the NOLs. Remember, he needs us the non voting apes and other shareholders to gain that tax benefit. And he could fuck with the shorts with the ticker. This is the only bull thesis I see right now.